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nick_ua
10-11-2006, 05:00 PM
In Birma. Starts at 1949
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Kersh
10-11-2006, 05:04 PM
Good God it's sad to see kids like that toting weapons around.

freedomofold
10-11-2006, 05:20 PM
You see a man in camouflage and a gun and think soldier. You see a child in camouflage caring a rifle and you think tragedy. It is heartbreaking to see.





I don't think this could be counted as the longest war ever. The fight between the IRA and Britain can be argued as still on going. If memory serves me right there is some conflict between villages on the China Vietnam boarder that has been rolling for hundreds of years. Lest we forget the Hatfields and McCoys...

Nickolai
10-11-2006, 05:24 PM
Good God it's sad to see kids like that toting weapons around.

X2
i see many different weapons they have and wonder how they get those M-16 ... which country provides the M-16 to them and what interests it has in selling that guns

(also AK-47)

Roanoke
10-11-2006, 05:26 PM
100 years war.

Need I say more?

SBL
10-11-2006, 05:27 PM
100 years war.

Need I say more?


I was getting ready to say that.

unpredictable
10-11-2006, 05:39 PM
100 years war.

Need I say more?

god!!!! it was what i was thinking when i read the 1st post:backhand: :cantbeli:

rosscoliosis
10-11-2006, 06:08 PM
god!!!! it was what i was thinking when i read the 1st post:backhand: :cantbeli:

Darnit, me too, haha. :p

prettyboy_02
10-11-2006, 06:16 PM
yea.....lol omg thats a very long time
who were they fighting j\w

CG51
10-11-2006, 06:18 PM
Damn, mostly children :-(

Canuck Farrier
10-11-2006, 06:30 PM
children are easier to brain wash sadly,and a bullet from a child is just as dangerous as a bullet from a professional soldier.Any background info to sum up the war.whos fighting who so to speak.??

Hypno85
10-11-2006, 06:30 PM
Good God it's sad to see kids like that toting weapons around.

yup very sad.

22.5degrees
10-11-2006, 07:00 PM
X2
i see many different weapons they have and wonder how they get those M-16 ... which country provides the M-16 to them and what interests it has in selling that guns

(also AK-47)

Its hard to say who supplied the arms. Many of the rifles pictured are older variants which leads me to believe they could be recovered or stolen arms from Vietnam or possibly South American nations. I doubt the arms being used are purchased direct from the manufacturer or purchased new for that matter. However, those which bear US or German or any other western nations markings originated at one time from a western nation. I'd be interested to know whom these arms were intended for and how they ended up where they are now.

22.5

unit299_09
10-11-2006, 07:02 PM
damn....


poor children...
i had different things in my mind as i was in that age..
kids have to be kids and not soldiers..

indian_irish
10-11-2006, 07:18 PM
can somebody tell me whick AK is in the 17th puc?thnx

22.5degrees
10-11-2006, 07:29 PM
Perhaps a Finish valmet in 5.56??? I'm not overly versed on the many variants, just a guess.

22.5

taiaha
10-11-2006, 07:31 PM
It's a Burmese K-3 rifle..

StukaJr
10-11-2006, 07:33 PM
Isn't 100 year war considered a series of smaller wars, not a single one of them over a decade? Also, back in those days, fighting in a War meant that there could be a battle once or twice a year, conflicts rarely affecting the livelyhood of the home countries unless they were the staging areas of battles - certainly not as intense as modern conflicts or civil wars... Half a century of on-going modern conflict is pretty damn harsh!

Luno
10-11-2006, 07:42 PM
the Longest continuous war is the Thirty Years War in europe 1618 - 1648 :)

Bryson C
10-11-2006, 08:27 PM
100 years war.

Need I say more?

I agree with StukaJr, the 100 years wars is (usually) considered a series of smaller wars not one big long war.
I also agree with Luno about the 30-years war.

nick_ua
10-11-2006, 08:57 PM
more likely Type 81-1

taiaha
10-11-2006, 10:01 PM
can somebody tell me whick AK is in the 17th puc?thnx



http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69914&page=2

AntonG
10-11-2006, 11:42 PM
Indeed the Hundred year war was just a crap load of smaller wars. Started because the french king died and had no heir, but the The English king Edward III actually had a good "claim" to inherit the French throne. Edward's claim was through his French mother, Eleanor, who was the dead French king's aunt . It was usual for medieval royal families to intermarry like this, always seeking to make alliances.

That aside it was acctually 116 years in total. All the battles put together.

p-) I aced History, sorry.

Eddy
10-11-2006, 11:45 PM
The 100 years' war is actually lasted 116 years

[Edit]

Woops didnt see AntonG's post

goat89
10-12-2006, 01:40 AM
Sad war. Heard of child soldiers from that country. Powerful pics. Thx.

Masai
10-12-2006, 02:20 AM
Disturbing pics of child soldiers,

Its always the same 4 rifles. FN FAL, AK47, M16, M4

And the trustworthy RPG-7

sofa_king_kewl
10-12-2006, 03:09 AM
found few more pics

Burmese rebels

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4346/childsoldiersmyanmar4ri9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1351/ge2hgu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2138/ge3vhf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/166/ge6hwj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7451/ge8veb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5028/ge9vfn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8986/ge10vao0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3527/ge16hki0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9472/htoorn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4807/htootwinsqk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Victis Honor
10-12-2006, 04:03 AM
god!!!! it was what i was thinking when i read the 1st post:backhand: :cantbeli:

same here:)

roland
10-12-2006, 04:46 AM
..conflicts rarely affecting the livelyhood of the home countries ..


.. except when the invader burn fields and reserve of food and millions die of starvation in the process. France before 100 year war: 22 million people, 7 million 116 year later. Not to go off topic but just correcting one or two thing.

War were much less intense though, that's right.

Sad to see those childrens soldiers.

Prodigal
10-12-2006, 04:56 AM
now thats a HardCore military kids. i think its a nice training pool for special operations and the like.

John John Peters
10-12-2006, 05:06 AM
It's more of a fight about who controls the opium.

Hawk of prairie
10-12-2006, 07:02 AM
God!!Real boy scout:(
poor children

Grach
10-13-2006, 01:25 AM
In Birma. Starts at 1949









http://ochevidec.net/content/story3/47/10.jpg







http://ochevidec.net/content/story3/47/19.jpg





You've got to be smoked-up to fight that long...and that wasn't a joke.

sofa_king_kewl
10-13-2006, 10:58 PM
Same pics and few more at this thread about child soldiers of myanmar

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86065&page=3&highlight=child+soldiers

sofa_king_kewl
10-15-2006, 01:40 AM
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5721/11bq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1866/12oc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3259/122os8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nano
10-15-2006, 01:55 AM
found few more pics

Burmese rebels


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9472/htoorn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4807/htootwinsqk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The above two pics show the rebel leaders or commanders for that group if I remember correctly.(the boy with the cigar I believe is the one not sure) I believe they were interviewed sometime ago(5 years+ ago) thats where I remember their faces from. Anyone else have any information on this.

Oscar panzer
10-15-2006, 08:20 AM
116years war..
I just can't stand that:-(

Hydro
10-15-2006, 08:56 AM
Those two kids were believed to be invincible or something, like they were blessed. They led a rebel group I think. Weren't they both killed? That would be a kick in the pants for their blessing.

sofa_king_kewl
10-16-2006, 02:38 AM
Those two kids were believed to be invincible or something, like they were blessed. They led a rebel group I think. Weren't they both killed? That would be a kick in the pants for their blessing.

from www.tkb.org (http://www.tkb.org)

Group: God's Army
Role: Leader (Former)

Current Location: Karen (Ka-Yin) refugee camp in Thailand

Biography: Luther Htoo and his twin brother Johnny were the boy leaders of God’s Army, a Karen militant group in Burma. Only nine years old at the time they founded the group, the boys would eventually surrender to Thai authorities in 2001 after the Burmese army had all but destroyed the operational strength of their outfit.
Much of the publicity surrounding the God’s Army was a product of its young leadership. The group became famous after a picture of the two brothers was published in newspapers around the world. Luther is widely regarded as more vocal and gregarious then his twin, but it is possible that this information was simply extrapolated from this famous image.
According to sources within the tribe, in 1997 a local pastor (the Karen believe in a blend of Christianity and animism) brought the two boys to a military commander, saying they had been touched by God and they could bring salvation to the Karen who had been fighting against the Burmese government for nearly 50 years. The story continues that the two brothers then led a successful military operation against the Burmese army, despite overwhelming odds.
The story of the brother’s prowess soon spread to the rest of the tribe, and men flocked to join the God’s Army from other Karen militant outfits. Rumors spread that the boys had magical powers and were immune to bullets. At peak strength, the boys reportedly commanded 500 militants.
Despite this, the God’s Army soon found itself the target of a renewed Burmese crackdown, and by 2001, the boys’ supporters had been whittled down to about 20 fighters. Exhausted, the two brothers crossed the Thai-Burmese border and surrendered to Thai authorities in late January of that year. Johnny and Luther were 13 years old at the time.
The Thai government re-settled Johnny and Luther in a Karen refugee camp where they were re-united with their mother. Despite efforts to bring the Htoo’s to the United States, the family continues to reside in this camp.
In July 2006, Johnny reportedly left the camp to return to Burma where he promptly surrendered to Burmese authorities. It is unknown why Johnny left the camp, and by all accounts, Luther remains in Thailand. Some have speculated that Johnny and Luther were nothing more then figureheads for the God’s Army. Thai military officials have commented that the boys were a front for older militants in an effort to raise morale and attract fighters. While this theory certainly seems plausible, and a great deal of information surrounding the Htoo brothers is clearly myth, Johnny and Luther are still widely considered the youngest military commanders in history.

Karen rebels thread http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86215

Nano
10-16-2006, 03:00 AM
Thanks for the info sofa_king. I always wondered how things would work out for them since they were only a few years younger than me back in the 90's.

peio2
10-16-2006, 05:49 AM
Sorry for offtopic, but the longest war, who I know, is between England and France (1337 - 1453 ): 116 years..

sofa_king_kewl
10-16-2006, 11:35 PM
Thanks for the info sofa_king. I always wondered how things would work out for them since they were only a few years younger than me back in the 90's.

you're welcome.
it's good to know that they didn't get killed. But they're separated now, johnny in Burma and Luther in Thailand

kogyi_99
10-17-2006, 11:19 PM
Sorry for offtopic, but the longest war, who I know, is between England and France (1337 - 1453 ): 116 years..

You're right....
Even though the hundred years war was actually just a few series of battles between England and France from 1337 to 1453, thus lasting 116 years, it is still considered a war. So, it is the longest war in history.

PILMAN
10-18-2006, 12:46 AM
Someone was asking about what the war was about. Well I found some information

The patches from the pictures say KNLA which from a search stands for Karen National Liberation Army. Heres the info on them.


The Karen National Liberation Army (KNLA) is the military branch of the Karen National Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_National_Union) (KNU). At the time of Burma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma)'s independence from the British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) in 1948 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948), there was considerable tension between the Karen community and Burma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma). Some Karens sought independence while others attempted co-existence within Burma. In early 1949 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1949), portions of a socialist political militia raised by the government went on a rampage in Karen civilian areas. The Burmese government then arrested the Karen leader of the armed forces and replaced him with radical Burmese anti-Karen nationalist Ne Win (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_Win). This action led to civil war with some Karen units of the Burma Army coming over to the side of the Karen political leaders and others being imprisoned by the government.
Early in the fighting, Karen forces overran much of Northern Burma including towns such as Mandalay and established strong positions outside Rangoon at Insein. But lacking a port from which to receive military supplies, the Karen forces gradually withdrew to the southeast of Burma. Since that time, the KNLA has been fighting for an independent state, called Kawthoolei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawthoolei), to be located in eastern Burma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma) near the border with Thailand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand) and in other places with large Karen populations.

And then on Kawthoolei

Kawthoolei is the Karen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_people) name for the state that the Karen people of Myanmar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar) have been trying to establish since the late 1940s. It means the Green Land, although, according to Martin Smith in Burma: Insurgency and the Politics of Ethnicity, it has a double meaning, and can also be rendered as the Land Burnt Black; hence the land that must be fought for. Kawthoolei roughly approximates to present-day Kayin State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayin_State), although parts of the Burmese Ayeyarwady River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayeyarwady_River) delta with Karen populations have sometimes also been claimed. Kawthoolei as a name is a relatively recent invention, penned during the time of former Karen leader Ba U Gyi, who was assassinated around the time of Burma's independence from Britain.

source wikipedia

The enemy - Myanmar's ruling junta (SPDC) - have been heavily criticised by most human rights organisations for its continuing human rights abuses


So conclusion is the KNLA is a Guerilla group trying to form a state and they are fighting against the Burmanese military so it's basically a civil war. the Tatmadaw from what I have seen could easily wipe out the KNLA (the children pictured are KNLA as well as Tatmadaw) but haven't to justify military spending and power in the region according to wikipedia. Theres not a lot of info on them but thats as much as I can find.

Heres more info and a video

http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs6770

kogyi_99
10-18-2006, 10:46 PM
Someone was asking about what the war was about. Well I found some information

The patches from the pictures say KNLA which from a search stands for Karen National Liberation Army. Heres the info on them.


The Karen National Liberation Army (KNLA) is the military branch of the Karen National Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_National_Union) (KNU). At the time of Burma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma)'s independence from the British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) in 1948 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948), there was considerable tension between the Karen community and Burma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma). Some Karens sought independence while others attempted co-existence within Burma. In early 1949 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1949), portions of a socialist political militia raised by the government went on a rampage in Karen civilian areas. The Burmese government then arrested the Karen leader of the armed forces and replaced him with radical Burmese anti-Karen nationalist Ne Win (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_Win). This action led to civil war with some Karen units of the Burma Army coming over to the side of the Karen political leaders and others being imprisoned by the government.
Early in the fighting, Karen forces overran much of Northern Burma including towns such as Mandalay and established strong positions outside Rangoon at Insein. But lacking a port from which to receive military supplies, the Karen forces gradually withdrew to the southeast of Burma. Since that time, the KNLA has been fighting for an independent state, called Kawthoolei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawthoolei), to be located in eastern Burma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma) near the border with Thailand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand) and in other places with large Karen populations.

And then on Kawthoolei

Kawthoolei is the Karen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_people) name for the state that the Karen people of Myanmar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar) have been trying to establish since the late 1940s. It means the Green Land, although, according to Martin Smith in Burma: Insurgency and the Politics of Ethnicity, it has a double meaning, and can also be rendered as the Land Burnt Black; hence the land that must be fought for. Kawthoolei roughly approximates to present-day Kayin State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayin_State), although parts of the Burmese Ayeyarwady River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayeyarwady_River) delta with Karen populations have sometimes also been claimed. Kawthoolei as a name is a relatively recent invention, penned during the time of former Karen leader Ba U Gyi, who was assassinated around the time of Burma's independence from Britain.

source wikipedia

The enemy - Myanmar's ruling junta (SPDC) - have been heavily criticised by most human rights organisations for its continuing human rights abuses


So conclusion is the KNLA is a Guerilla group trying to form a state and they are fighting against the Burmanese military so it's basically a civil war. the Tatmadaw from what I have seen could easily wipe out the KNLA (the children pictured are KNLA as well as Tatmadaw) but haven't to justify military spending and power in the region according to wikipedia. Theres not a lot of info on them but thats as much as I can find.

Heres more info and a video

http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs6770 (http://hotzone.yahoo.com/b/hotzone/blogs6770)

Great find PILMAN ! Thank you...

Kilgor
10-19-2006, 12:25 AM
I dont think those kids are going to have to worry about lung cancer.

Thunder
10-21-2006, 04:04 PM
100 years war.

Need I say more?
You do, actually. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Hundred_and_Thirty_Five_Years%27_War

335 years.

unpredictable
10-21-2006, 05:38 PM
You do, actually. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Hundred_and_Thirty_Five_Years%27_War

335 years.

thanks for the info bro. really i don´t have damn clue of it:) thanks pal

sofa_king_kewl
10-23-2006, 12:43 AM
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sofa_king_kewl
12-14-2006, 04:00 AM
On Patrol, a skirmish and a victory

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