Muslims offended by 5th Avenue Apple store [Archive]

Elemental666

10-12-2006, 08:46 AM

Apple's "Mecca Project" Provokes Muslim Reaction
On October 10, 2006, an Islamic website posted a message alerting Muslims to what it claims is a new insult to Islam. According to the message, the cube-shaped building which is being constructed in New York City, on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th Streets in midtown Manhattan, is clearly meant to provoke Muslims. The fact that the building resembles the Ka'ba (see picture below), is called "Apple Mecca," is intended to be open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba, and moreover, contains bars selling alcoholic beverages, constitutes a blatant insult to Islam. The message urges Muslims to spread this alert, in hope that "Muslims will be able to stop the project."
http://www.memri.org/images/uploaded/sd_131506_1.jpg

Dam those infidels.

Source:

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD131506

Cedan

10-12-2006, 08:54 AM

http://www.brain.com.pk/%7Enbrother/mecca/mecca-beat_b2.jpg

i dont see why muslims should have monopoly on cubic black buildings :roll:

LazyLob

10-12-2006, 08:58 AM

Will they also want o start censoring children’s maths books?

PanzerMaster

10-12-2006, 09:05 AM

I hope that some hardline muslim nuts don't go and set afire the structure with people inside, that's my fear.

But, really, I am very tired to be afraid.

Satellite Weapon

10-12-2006, 09:05 AM

Will they also want o start censoring children’s maths books? bunch of sinful infidels here http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20060116/gtrubik0116/rubik.jpg http://www.canton.edu/employee/robinsod/mort/Buffalo/ForestL/Cube.jpg

tsuri

10-12-2006, 09:16 AM

Hmm it´s from apple, it´s rectangular...

http://www.epiacenter.com/bilder/projects/apple_cube/p4cube-front.jpg
Jay for the G4 Cube!

A black rectangular cube is such a basic shape that they really cant complain about that. Also I find it interesting that the Ka'ba seems to be the only other building in the world that is open 24 hours a day.

The real question is: When will they get offended by Kaba cocoa?

Satellite Weapon

10-12-2006, 09:18 AM

Burn all those Xbox/playstations !! I think they are kinda sqare shaped - (rectangular/black ?)

shocker1

10-12-2006, 09:23 AM

Trying to find things to be upset about, instead of focusing on their relationship with Allah. He will not be pleased. I do not think they understand Western culture at all, all groups are open to scrutiny.

snark.si

10-12-2006, 09:33 AM

http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedimages/sfdpw/bsm/public_toilets/toilet.jpg

looks like a public toilet.

alexz

10-12-2006, 10:38 AM

What is inside the Ka'ba and are people allowed to see it?

Nickolai

10-12-2006, 10:56 AM

:confused: are they kidding?!

Cedan

10-12-2006, 11:00 AM

What is inside the Ka'ba and are people allowed to see it?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Kaaba2.jpg

In the eastern corner is the Rukn-al-Aswad (the Black Stone or al-Ħajaru l-Aswad), generally thought to be a meteorite remnant; at the northern corner lies the Rukn-al-Iraqi ('The Iraqi corner'); at the west lies Rukn-al-Shami ('The Levantine corner') and at the south Rukn-al-Yamani ('The Yemeni corner').

Entrance to the inside of the Kaaba is gained through a door set 2.13 meters above the ground on the north-eastern wall of the Kaaba.
Part of a series of articles on

Inside the Kaaba, there is a marble floor. The interior walls are clad with marble half-way to the roof; tablets with Qur'anic inscriptions are inset in the marble. The top part of the walls is covered with a green cloth decorated with gold embroidered Qur'anic verses. The building is believed to be otherwise empty. Caretakers perfume the marble cladding with scented oil, the same oil used to anoint the Black Stone outside.

PanzerMaster

10-12-2006, 11:00 AM

What is inside the Ka'ba and are people allowed to see it?

Not inside, but on an edge there is a black stone, said to be bringed from the heaven by Allah or one of his angels.

More on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabaa
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone

Elemental666

10-12-2006, 11:08 AM

:confused: are they kidding?!

No.Just like i'm not kidding about this:

From now and on,no body is allowed to use walls.That will offend me as a Jew.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l65/Elemental16/westernwallview.jpg

p-)

Nickolai

10-12-2006, 11:13 AM

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5402/walloz3.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=walloz3.jpg)
going to sue me?! p-)

PanzerMaster

10-12-2006, 11:14 AM

No.Just like i'm not kiding about this:

From now and on,no body is allowed to use walls.That will offend me as a Jew.

...

p-)

Imagine buddhists how much are offended with all of those fat beer-gutted people all around...p-)

PanzerMaster

10-12-2006, 11:20 AM

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5402/walloz3.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=walloz3.jpg)
going to sue me?! p-)

Jews don't sue, they will send their secret agent to kill you, infidel:

Nickolai

10-12-2006, 11:27 AM

roflgood one... *removes wall with c4*

habe0064

10-12-2006, 11:42 AM

Infidels in space p-)
http://happycarpenter.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/borg_ship.jpg

RECON DOC

10-12-2006, 11:49 AM

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5402/walloz3.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=walloz3.jpg)
going to sue me?! p-)

Yes, but only for your choice of paint colors and the bed cover. p-)

Thunder

10-12-2006, 11:55 AM

I wish I was religious, so I could make ridiculous claims and demands too.

Nickolai

10-12-2006, 11:57 AM

Yes, but only for your choice of paint colors and the bed cover. p-)
whats wrong with green walls and... some random sheets.... ?!
i think its a nice room to die in... the contrast of the red and the green... awesome...

alexz

10-12-2006, 12:11 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Kaaba2.jpg

In the eastern corner is the Rukn-al-Aswad (the Black Stone or al-Ħajaru l-Aswad), generally thought to be a meteorite remnant; at the northern corner lies the Rukn-al-Iraqi ('The Iraqi corner'); at the west lies Rukn-al-Shami ('The Levantine corner') and at the south Rukn-al-Yamani ('The Yemeni corner').

Entrance to the inside of the Kaaba is gained through a door set 2.13 meters above the ground on the north-eastern wall of the Kaaba.
Part of a series of articles on

Inside the Kaaba, there is a marble floor. The interior walls are clad with marble half-way to the roof; tablets with Qur'anic inscriptions are inset in the marble. The top part of the walls is covered with a green cloth decorated with gold embroidered Qur'anic verses. The building is believed to be otherwise empty. Caretakers perfume the marble cladding with scented oil, the same oil used to anoint the Black Stone outside.

Thank You. So it seems that the stone pre dates Islam right?

NixXxoN

10-12-2006, 12:17 PM

Silly people! The muslims who claim that I mean.

EMPEROR ATTiLA

10-12-2006, 12:31 PM

Gluten

10-12-2006, 12:38 PM

why, why why do thy even care???? its allmost as if they search the world for things to complain about

sferrin

10-12-2006, 12:38 PM

LazyLob

10-12-2006, 12:38 PM

Cedan

10-12-2006, 12:56 PM

why, why why do thy even care???? its allmost as if they search the world for things to complain about

they do its called extremism

Cedan

10-12-2006, 01:04 PM

Thank You. So it seems that the stone pre dates Islam right?

Muslims say that the Stone was found by Abraham (Ibrahim) and his son Ishmael (Ismail) when they were searching for stones with which to build the Kaaba. They recognized its worth and made it one of the building's cornerstones.

Secular historians point to the history of meteorite worship, in pre-Islamic Arabia, and say that it is likely that the Stone is a meteorite or possibly impact glass, from the meteorite impact crater at Wabar, about 1100 km from Mecca. There is no way to test this hypothesis without removing and examining the Stone, which would not be permitted by its guardians.

src wp

EMPEROR ATTiLA

10-12-2006, 01:15 PM

How did we all miss that one?

its easy..because europeans and USA TV slave people...it tells u what true or false are...I M sure you watched movie TOTAL RECALL..capito

LazyLob

10-12-2006, 01:23 PM

every christian must be sure muslims and christians believe same GOD.MUSLİMS AND CHRİSTİANS are not enemy each other..only politicians and weapon companies try to make enemy both peoples.this project is a f......g provocation.no more

its easy..because europeans and USA TV slave people...it tells u what true or false are...I M sure you watched movie TOTAL RECALL..capito

So it's all our fault?

I did think it was just a wee bit too simplistic.

Anyway back to Eastenders.........................

ed316

10-12-2006, 01:23 PM

its easy..because europeans and USA TV slave people...it tells u what true or false are...I M sure you watched movie TOTAL RECALL..capito

I got nomination for you.

It must be true since you read it on the internet, another form of Media slavery.

Hydro

10-12-2006, 01:26 PM

I liked Total Recall :(

LazyLob

10-12-2006, 01:36 PM

I liked Total Recall :(

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6724/hydrodg5.jpg

STIG

10-12-2006, 01:44 PM

Thank You. So it seems that the stone pre dates Islam right?

Kaaba A Hindu Temple? (http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm)

ed316

10-12-2006, 01:49 PM

From what I read Kaaba stone might be a metoerite. Might be. I know tin foil hat type thing.

vrb

10-12-2006, 01:49 PM

Kaaba A Hindu Temple? (http://www.hinduism.co.za/kaabaa.htm)

They're going to whack you for posting that........

If there's anything they hate more than freedom its.....polytheism:oops:

Meldon

10-12-2006, 01:57 PM

They're going to whack you for posting that........

If there's anything they hate more than freedom its.....polytheism:oops:

There is no polytheism in Hinduism but many avatars on one supreme cosmic spirit. http://www.smiley.webrealite.com/images/angel/b015.gif

jojo

10-12-2006, 02:11 PM

So it's all our fault?

I did think it was just a wee bit too simplistic.

Anyway back to Eastenders.........................
It's only a matter of time before Eastenders is labelled an "insult to Islam". Absolutely everything else seems to be. F---wits.

EMPEROR ATTiLA

10-12-2006, 02:15 PM

From what I read Kaaba stone might be a metoerite. Might be. I know tin foil hat type thing.

that stone's name is HACER UL ESVET or black stone..it is believed that it s a meteorite..but not known much thing its past..İts history older than islam.
excatly Kaaba is not hindu temple..actully its not temple..it is holly monumet for islam..

Jobu

10-12-2006, 02:38 PM

These idiots need to stfu already.

Is it just me or is everyone really getting sick of this crap everytime there is a new building, cartoon, or exposed woman's face that offends some jerk's interpretation of his religion?

Elemental666

10-12-2006, 02:41 PM

I just noticed it's a repost :roll:.Ohh well.

Natemo

10-12-2006, 05:54 PM

Thats ****ing bs... what a bunch of grabage! makes me ****ing pissed off at alot of people 90% of the world are just dumb ****s!

CruddyLeper

10-12-2006, 07:20 PM

Thank You. So it seems that the stone pre dates Islam right?

My understanding is that, in the early years of the Prophet Muhammed, the Ka'aba was used as repository for stone statues. One statue to be worshipped by each Arabian tribe.

This is one reason why Islam is so down on graven images of animals and people, especially when it comes to worship.

LazyLob

10-12-2006, 07:27 PM

My understanding is that, in the early years of the Prophet Muhammed, the Ka'aba was used as repository for stone statues. One statue to be worshipped by each Arabian tribe.

This is one reason why Islam is so down on graven images of animals and people, especially when it comes to worship.

Spot on. And do you know the name of their pagan moon god?

3rdMillhouse

10-12-2006, 08:07 PM

Spot on. And do you know the name of their pagan moon god?

No, what is it?

CruddyLeper

10-12-2006, 08:25 PM

Spot on. And do you know the name of their pagan moon god?

Elton John? p-)

Pete031

10-12-2006, 08:29 PM

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6724/hydrodg5.jpg

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hydro

10-12-2006, 08:31 PM

What can I say, I like cheesy movies.

bluffcove

10-12-2006, 08:32 PM

think its the term mecca thats causing a problem!

LazyLob

10-12-2006, 08:34 PM

Elton John? p-)

Nah, Reginald Dwight...oh...hang on..........

Ballistic.

10-13-2006, 01:24 AM

What does'nt offend Muslims these days. Fvckin pathetic.

Ballistic.

10-13-2006, 01:33 AM

every christian must be sure muslims and christians believe same GOD.MUSLİMS AND CHRİSTİANS are not enemy each other..only politicians and weapon companies try to make enemy both peoples.this project is a f......g provocation.no more

every muslim must be sure christians and muslims believe same GOD.CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS are not enemy each other...blah blah blah...

It's a two way street mate.

Problem is, extremists in the Muslim religion have forgotten this and are trying to blow us up with homemade bombs. Weapon companies have nothing to do with that.

It's a building with a very simple design. If people wanted to really offend Muslims, they could find much better ways to go about...it's just so EASY to accomplish these days as EVERYTHING seems to piss them off.

chas

10-13-2006, 02:44 AM

Paul in Saudi2

10-13-2006, 03:48 AM

Moving back to the OP, this particular bit of outrage seems to have fizzled. The Apple store is a glass cube, not a black stone one.

As for the Ka'aba, it is not at all unusual to go inside. Some days the Ka'aba people are doing maintenance or whatever and a line forms. The neat thing is that when inside the cube, you may pray in any direction, so people come in, do a couple of rahkhas in each of four directs, look around and leave.

The rock is a rock. Nothing too special about it. In the same way the Ka'aba is a building. It has been repaired and rebuilt from time to time. The covering is replaced once a year (and shady merchants begin selling bits of the old cloth), the inside stuff is replaced less often.

The King, along with diplomats from around the world go in once a year to clean the floor with zam-zam water. It is quite an honor to go in with the King.

As for the moon-god thing, LazyLob is probably about to point out that the name of God in Arabic is supposedly derived from the name of an ancient pagan god. Therefore you see, Muslims are not worshiping the True God because they are using the wrong name.

Oh, yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Better to pray in English. It was good enough for Jesus (PBUH) after all.

gilgoul

10-13-2006, 04:50 AM

Im against all religions and I make fun of them on a regular basis... BUT, if I was a religous person, followed an organized religion, I guess I would be pissed of too, if I saw they use important buildings (even more if they are the most sacred building of my confession) to sale and make money.
While in spain the expression "Mecca of surf, dance music, oldsmobiles, whatever" is a much used one, I consider it a bit tasteless to use go so far and copy a building for bussines reasons.

That is SO lame, bit tasteless, people in spain don't seem to have the same sensitivity about jews or other minorities, so why using the word mecca should be insensitive?
I knew Spain became a Dhimmi state since the attacks, but I couldn't believe it would reach such a level.
Are you spaniard?

On a general basis, aren't you european tired of apologizing for things you did not commit, or commited so long ago that nobody cares? Supposedly to give justice to your victimes, while you use this to evade your international responsibility.
Aren't you tired of giving in on front of muslim threats under the false claim it is more sensitive, while in fact you are just scared ****less?

How come it is possible to hang around in Paris, London or Madrid with a shirt of the Hizballah, and would be suicidal to do it with a shirt showing the stars and stripes or the star of David?

Europe as it shows today is a whore nobody respects, and not the extremists muslims in the first place, they use your welfare, your pseudo contrition about colonialism, made your freedom of speech their tool to proclaim their supposed superiority, and death to whoever says does, even thinks else.
This goes for all the western european countries that becames dhimmi states, that are ready to sell their momy to a little bit more quiet.

PATHETIC.

Europe

joshfox0

10-13-2006, 05:59 AM

Omg cube copyrighted by islam

Fiber

10-13-2006, 05:59 AM

No.Just like i'm not kidding about this:

From now and on,no body is allowed to use walls.That will offend me as a Jew.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l65/Elemental16/westernwallview.jpg

p-)

Nobody?

http://www.gamerlamers.com/wall_30feethigh.jpg

Elemental666

10-13-2006, 06:05 AM

Nobody?

http://www.gamerlamers.com/wall_30feethigh.jpg

100% Jewish made wall.
Nice try.

Fiber

10-13-2006, 06:05 AM

Ok. You didn't get it.

Elemental666

10-13-2006, 06:06 AM

Ok. You didn't get it.

Yea,just woke up....sorry p-)

vrb

10-13-2006, 06:43 AM

Well... There's' a load of bingo places called 'Mecca' in Britain and no one makes trouble for them...

Have a look at: http://www.meccabingo.com/

Fiber

10-13-2006, 08:52 AM

I bet there are a lot of muslims who are not offended by the shape of the apple store. And even some who are offended by other muslims beeing offended by the shape of the apple store.

There are probably some christians offended by that holy land-theme park as well. The thing is, nobody wants to read about it so it doesn't get any press coverage. But "everyone" wants to read about some small, obscure muslim group beeing offended by the shape of an apple store. You don't have to look any further then this thread to find them.

Kippari

10-13-2006, 09:24 AM

There are probably some christians offended by that holy land-theme park as well. The thing is, nobody wants to read about it so it doesn't get any press coverage. But "everyone" wants to read about some small, obscure muslim group beeing offended by the shape of an apple store. You don't have to look any further then this thread to find them."

Correct, but usually christians don't go and try to blow those kind of places sky high. In fact, i'm pretty tired of those muslim extremists and their violence. They blew up the hotel i was going in Egypt few months before i got there so thanks a lot a**holes, you ruined my vacation!
Hmm... I think I still can't boycot Kebap.:)

controller

10-13-2006, 09:39 AM

cube-shaped building which is being constructed in New York City, on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th Streets in midtown Manhattan, is clearly meant to provoke Muslims. The fact that the building resembles the Ka'ba (see picture below), is called '' Apple-mecca'' is intended to be open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba, and moreover, contains bars selling alcoholic beverages, constitutes a blatant insult to Islam. The message urges Muslims to spread this alert, in hope that "Muslims will be able to stop the project.

This is what makes them angry, they got faith and it's just obvious to them this is insulting

- black cube-shaped

- the name Apple-mecca

- open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba

- selling alcoholic beverages inside

jojo

10-13-2006, 10:40 AM

Paul in Saudi2

10-13-2006, 11:26 AM

- black cube-shaped
Nope, a glass cube

- the name Apple-mecca
Nope, called the Apple Store

- open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba

Nope, the Ka'ba is closed for maintenance most nights. They don't seem to have a schedule.

- selling alcoholic beverages inside
Really? In the Apple Store? Cite?

Other than that you are spot on.

Rubber Johnny

10-13-2006, 11:44 AM

Apple-mecca is a nickname given by the journalists.

khukuri

10-13-2006, 11:46 AM

apparently this is a similar thread from theone before, ill just add what I wrote last time

"This whole thread, and most of the people posting in it are quite pathetic... looking up some lameass website to get the opportunity to further bash muslims... quite low I might add"

Its one guys website and suddenly "muslims are offended"... great way to shed bad light on muslims... and what a great source.. memri who refised to link to the website..

Meldon

10-13-2006, 12:20 PM

The "funny" thing is that the url of the supposed muslim site is not given... all my research on google, even in arabic, quote memri and nobody else

Paul in Saudi2

10-13-2006, 12:30 PM

(I really screwed up the coding on that one, didn't I?)

I don't know anyone upset about the Apple Store. All I know is that some people are saying people are upset about the Apple Store. I have to decide between my own eyes of the media. Humm, which should I believe?

LazyLob

10-13-2006, 12:54 PM

khukuri

10-13-2006, 08:59 PM

rofl rofl rofl rofl..............oooooh the irony.

An un proven claim that one small muslim website got offended gets 5 pages of answers... you wanna tell thats not pathetic...

once again... lets see what people wrote...

Will they also want o start censoring children’s maths books?

Trying to find things to be upset about, instead of focusing on their relationship with Allah. He will not be pleased. I do not think they understand Western culture at all, all groups are open to scrutiny.

Silly people! The muslims who claim that I mean.

why, why why do they even care???? its allmost as if they search the world for things to complain about

These idiots need to stfu already.
Is it just me or is everyone really getting sick of this crap everytime there is a new building, cartoon, or exposed woman's face that offends some jerk's interpretation of his religion?

Thats ****ing bs... what a bunch of grabage! makes me ****ing pissed off at alot of people 90% of the world are just dumb ****s!

What does'nt offend Muslims these days. Fvckin pathetic.

Omg cube copyrighted by islam

One unproven link of an supposed idiot and suddenly a islam bashing fest about them muslims, yes I think most of the people who posted in this thread are pathetic... they just jumped on the wagon without even looking

bluffcove

10-13-2006, 09:26 PM

Generalisations are the Cure-all for the internet.

Always remember half of forum posters arent real, they are jsut CIA chat bots there to spread dissent guage public opinion and create grass roots ideas.

- Now who wants to watch more videos I made of ragheads getting slotted.

(bluff wanders off singing ~die mothafukca die~ )

One

10-13-2006, 10:00 PM

One website claims to be offended and it becomes all of islam? For ****s sake don't be hypocrites. X hates 1 that means the entire alphabet hates 1?

Eleven.Alpha

10-14-2006, 02:33 AM

So does this mean walking around with my ipod is gonna become a hate crime?

jizzmonkey

10-14-2006, 03:10 AM

From this point forth..I'm going to make it a POINT to insult muslims..just because I can...bring it on haters!!!!

Wojsko Polskie

10-14-2006, 03:21 AM

Really now, it's just getting ridiculous. :\

jizzmonkey

10-14-2006, 05:17 AM

Really now, it's just getting ridiculous. :\...........why??!!! are you feeling insulted??!!????

Jizzmonkey:1
Cruel world:ZERO

Off to an AWESOME start!!

steveusnret

10-14-2006, 04:28 PM

Just keep crying "wolf" and maybe one day a real one will show up.

Flamming_Python

10-14-2006, 04:32 PM

Khukuri you're right.

I personally believe that people should be able to believe what they want, as long as they don't blow themselves up about it :)

And that's the reason for all the sweeping generalisations and islam bashing. Neither side is right, and the radicals on both sides will draw every reasonable individual into war along with them.

Wojsko Polskie

10-15-2006, 01:59 AM

...........why??!!! are you feeling insulted??!!????

Jizzmonkey:1
Cruel world:ZERO

Off to an AWESOME start!! Wasn't talking about you, I was talking about ***the small minority*** of Muslims who were oh-so-offended about this.

Either way, I'll back you up if you want. p-)

LazerLordz

10-15-2006, 05:23 AM

tell them to get a life. I'm sick of these idiots trying to change how we live our lives. they're just hijacking their own religion..

Paul in Saudi2

10-15-2006, 10:51 AM

Look, there is no truth in the OP (in any meaningful way). The article cited by the OP is simply a provocation designed to evoke the sort of reaction you are having. You are being played, and the odds are not my the Muslims.

amro_elroubi

10-16-2006, 01:36 PM

I just want to say this thread is bull*** i have never ever hear anything about this apple store even the most radical moslems willnot be offended about this..why?
1-shape is different some ppl build their houses like mosques.

2-name Mecca is the city ,"ka'aba is the name of the place as moslems said house of god" I thought if it has the same name some ppl will be offended in general who believes in god.
3-not only moslem who belive in something and asked other to respect thier religion but also JEWS,CHRAISTIANS,HUNDUS..and.BUDDA.