Schoolgirl arrested for refusing to study with non-English pupils

[Zoomie]

Schoolgirl arrested for refusing to study with non-English pupils

A teenage schoolgirl was arrested by police for racism after refusing to sit with a group of Asian students because some of them did not speak English.

Codie Stott's family claim she was forced to spend three-and-a-half hours in a police cell after she was reported by her teachers.
The 14-year-old - who was released without charge - said it had been a simple matter of commonsense and accused the school and police of an over-the-top reaction.
The incident happened in the same local education authority where a ten-year-old boy was prosecuted earlier this year for calling a schoolfriend racist names in the playground, a move branded by a judge "political correctness gone mad."
Codie was attending a GCSE science class at Harrop Fold High School in Worsley, Greater Manchester, when the incident happened.
The teenager had not been in school the day before due to a hospital appointment and had missed the start of a project, so the teacher allocated her a group to sit with.


"She said I had to sit there with five Asian pupils," said Codie yesterday.
"Only one could speak English, so she had to tell that one what to do so she could explain in their language. Then she sat me with them and said 'Discuss'."
According to Codie, the five - four boys and a girl - then began talking in a language she didn't understand, thought to be Urdu, so she went to speak to the teacher.
"I said 'I'm not being funny, but can I change groups because I can't understand them?' But she started shouting and screaming, saying 'It's racist, you're going to get done by the police'."
Codie said she went outside to calm down where another teacher found her and, after speaking to her class teacher, put her in isolation for the rest of the day.


A complaint was made to a police officer based full-time at the school, and more than a week after the incident on September 26 she was taken to Swinton police station and placed under arrest.
"They told me to take my laces out of my shoes and remove my jewellery, and I had my fingerprints and photograph taken," said Codie. "It was awful."
Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410150&in_page_id=1770)
Yikes! Being a little whee bit too PC, don't ya think?

[williamoforange]

AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

*head explodes*

[RECON DOC]

Fvking lunatics.

[shocker1]

What is going on over there? What law did she break? If there is some law agianst not wanting to listen to meaningless babble it needs to go. Along with the teacher who discriminated agianst a native and the idiots that passed such a law.

[koutch]

What are non-english pupils are doing in a class where people speak english fluently or at least have a good command of it? Language classes are not avaliable? Instead of picking on the educational system that can't provide proper classes for immigrants, lets blame it on a little girl...

[Danik]

You do not arrest 14 year old girls. Especially ones that have not broken any laws. Cops in the US get sh-t for arresting teens in schools when they bring in drugs. This girl is put in jail for asking to change her lab group. It wouldnt be enough to FIRE the teacher and whatever administrator went through with this, they should be forever banned from going inside any schools.

[Seiyuuki]

What are non-english pupils are doing in a class where people speak english fluently or at least have a good command of it? Language classes are not avaliable? Instead of picking on the educational system that can't provide proper classes for immigrants, lets blame it on a little girl...I would assume it is similar over there as it is in the U.S. There are ESL (English as a Second Language) classes in every public schools. Those classes teach non-English speaker the language, but you are not suppose to spend the entire day in such environment. How long per day depend on your level of knowledge, the rest of the time, you are expected to immerse yourself and socialize with other students as part of the overall learning process. I only have to spend around two hours out of an eight hours school day in ESL in elementary school, the rest of the time I was in a normal classroom with everybody else and it took me only about a year before I no longer needed ESL.

Beside being too PC, the teacher should have known better than to group them all in one group instead of separating them and put them in a position where they actually have to practice their English skills.

[Danik]

What are non-english pupils are doing in a class where people speak english fluently or at least have a good command of it? Language classes are not avaliable? Instead of picking on the educational system that can't provide proper classes for immigrants, lets blame it on a little girl...

Its called diversity.


Whats your avatar? Since your serb, do you know what statue that was put up of a horseman trampling a jewish warrior? it was similar to your avatar. It was in a russian newspaper. Is that a real statue, Im curious to know how Jews got to serbia in order to be trampled in the first place?

[nullterm]

That is f*cking disgusting. The teacher and cops should lose their jobs and smacked around. That PC overreaction **** goes way beyond the line. That girl did nothing wrong. She felt left out and wanted to switch groups. Big friggin deal, that doesn't have anything todo with race. She should get a public apology from everyone involved and slap em with a law suit for being reactionary ignorants.

[HOLLiS]

Assuming the story happened as written, what happened was lunacy................ I would like to see a follow up.

[koutch]

Its called diversity.


Whats your avatar? Since your serb, do you know what statue that was put up of a horseman trampling a jewish warrior? it was similar to your avatar. It was in a russian newspaper. Is that a real statue, Im curious to know how Jews got to serbia in order to be trampled in the first place?

Its not called diversity, its a "let the students deal with it". The asian kids won't learn a language in a system like that. I learned french as second language, english as a 3rd, I spent a year in class for immigrant kids which puts emphasis on learning the language + math, arts & crafts, P.E, etc. We were like 15 nationalities in a classs and the only way we could communicate with eachoter was in french. Then after you passed the class and you could be understood by others you went to whatever grade you're supposed to be going.
I am not Serb, I am Russian. Your obsession with antisemitism everywhere is ridiculous, my avatar is a parody of the Moscow coat of arms. I have no clue about your statue.

[Kersh]

If this is true, it is going to be responsible for the downfall of America.

[Kaapeli]

I think the kid might have a good case there if she decides to sue the teachers and the police.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Hmm Manchester - not far from me. I'll try and find out if there's any substance to this story.

If it's only in the Daily Mail ( the paper that supported Hitler) then it's probably bollocks.

Having said that, as the British Police have been thoroughly infiltrated by authoritarian Bliarites, I wouldn't put it past them to indulge in the kind of irrational lunacy reported here.

[Doublethinker]

Idiocy.

Instead of throwing the ones who set the whole of Paris suburbs aflame in jail, they arrest teens for daring not to be politically correct.

[LazyLob]

Idiocy.

Instead of throwing the ones who set the whole of Paris suburbs aflame in jail, they arrest teens for daring not to be politically correct.


Didn't know the British police had those sort of powers in France. ;-)

[jameshr4]

As a police officer I can tell you that she couldn't have been arrested if the story is correct as she hasn't been rascist in asking to move groups so it makes me think that there is more to it than meets the eye...................

[a_very_ex_STAB]

As a police officer I can tell you that she couldn't have been arrested if the story is correct as she hasn't been rascist in asking to move groups so it makes me think that there is more to it than meets the eye...................


Yes I suspect there is more to it. Probably involving someone throwing a Vicki Pollard-esque hissy fit.

[gilgoul]

As a police officer I can tell you that she couldn't have been arrested if the story is correct as she hasn't been rascist in asking to move groups so it makes me think that there is more to it than meets the eye...................
Question,
Even if she said something clearly racist, is it enough to get a 14 years old arrested and processed?
Something doesn't feel right in this story, I mean, when I was kid, I had to face more than once antisemitic slur and even physical violence, but all was considered then as normal teen behaviour.
Hasn't the PC machine gone a little bit TOO far?

[Fiber]

If this is true, it is going to be responsible for the downfall of America.

I fail to see how this affects America... Unless it spreads..like communism!

After questioning on suspicion of committing a section five racial public order offence, her mother Nicola says she was placed in a bare cell for three-and-a-half hours then released without charge.

I find it hard to believe that the teacher reported her to the police for rascism unless she said something rascist. Hard to tell from this report..

[joshfox0]

probably more to this than meets the eye but begs the question..... why were there pupils that couldn't speek english attending a GCSE class...... :cantbeli:

[Lokos]

Since your serb, do you know what statue that was put up of a horseman trampling a jewish warrior? it was similar to your avatar. It was in a russian newspaper. Is that a real statue, Im curious to know how Jews got to serbia in order to be trampled in the first place?

And where is this statue, if I may ask? As a Serb, I'd just love to know - because I think you're talking out of your rear end. There's no history of anti-Semitism in Serbia. There is no such statue.

Lokos

[jojo]

Yes I suspect there is more to it. Probably involving someone throwing a Vicki Pollard-esque hissy fit.
You're probably right. The article in the Mail goes on to say that this happened in the same education authority area where that 10 year old boy was recently prosecuted for having a "Paki/whitey" arguement with another boy, in the schoolyard. The judge described that case as "Political correctness gone mad". Welcome to Phoney Blair's new, "diversified" Britain.

[Geezah]

Oh, my God! That is so unfair! This is like, well sexual harassment! If you like, fancy me why don't you just say so? God, this is exactly like the time Miss Rennig, who everyone knows is a total lesbian, made Candice Burton stay behind after PE, started telling her off for gobbing on Sunita Geschwani's hair. But everyone knows she only made her stay late because she wanted to get off with her, cuz when she was telling her off her legs were wide open and Candice reckons she could see her spider.

Wow..................Bliar's Britain:(

[Firetxmi]

What are non-english pupils are doing in a class where people speak english fluently or at least have a good command of it? Language classes are not avaliable? Instead of picking on the educational system that can't provide proper classes for immigrants, lets blame it on a little girl...

So you guys want immigrants to "integrate and learn the language", but you don't want to associate with them until they do? Give me a break.

Let me tell you, the best way to learn a language-especially when you're young- is through immersion. My father went to a Spanish school when he moved to Spain when he was 13. Didn't speak a lick of spanish, but by being in the classroom he picked it up fluently in about 3 months!

It sounds like they are trying guys, give the students a break.

As for the admin., yes, it was a complete overreaction.

[LazyLob]

So you guys want immigrants to "integrate and learn the language", but you don't want to associate with them until they do? Give me a break.

Let me tell you, the best way to learn a language-especially when you're young- is through immersion. My father went to a Spanish school when he moved to Spain when he was 13. Didn't speak a lick of spanish, but by being in the classroom he picked it up fluently in about 3 months!

It sounds like they are trying guys, give the students a break.

As for the admin., yes, it was a complete overreaction.


I agree with you. But the nature of immigration and integration in the UK has changed quite dramatically.

[Daniel1115]

I wouldn't have a problem as long as the communication barrier doesn't negatively affect the result of their project, and in her case, her grade.

[Geezah]

Somewhat related.
School suspends woman over veil

A Muslim woman has been suspended by a school in West Yorkshire after she insisted on wearing a veil in lessons.

Bilingual support worker Aishah Azmi, 24, was asked to remove the veil after pupils found it hard to understand her during English language lessons.

Headfield Church of England Junior School, in Dewsbury, said she could wear the veil outside the classroom.

Ms Azmi refused and was suspended pending the outcome of an employment tribunal, Kirklees Council said.

The tribunal heard the case in September and is due to announce its decision within the next two weeks.

Dewsbury MP Shahid Malik backed the school's decision, saying: "In schools the top priority has got to be the education of our children.

"I fully support the decision of the education authority and the school in requesting the classroom assistant remove her veil when teaching primary school children.

"I believe the education authority has bent over backwards to be accommodating and has been extremely reasonable and sensible in the decision it has come to.

"There is no religious obligation whatsoever for Muslim women to cover themselves up in front of primary school children."

'Inadequate standards'

The school, which has 529 pupils aged seven to 11, takes many children from different ethnic backgrounds where English is not the first language.

An Ofsted report carried out in February said: "The first languages spoken by most children are Panjabi, Gujarati and Urdu, and many children are still learning to speak English.

"Significant improvement is required in relation to the inadequate standards of achievement reached by children and their slow progress over time.

"Children's speaking skills are poor and this holds them back in most aspects of their work."

Kirklees Council's children's services spokesman, Jim Dodds, said Ms Azmi's suspension was "nothing to do with religion".

Teachers' concern

"We are simply trying to ensure that our children get the best possible education," he said.

"Both pupils and teachers raised concerns because they were finding it difficult to make out what she was saying during lessons.

"We have a lot of pupils who do not speak English as a first language and you have to be able to see people's lips move when you are being taught.

"We asked this young lady to remove her veil when she was teaching English language, but she refused."

Mr Dodds said that even if Ms Azmi won her case the council would not change its position.

"Our only concern is that the children are taught properly," he said.

Last week, Commons leader Jack Straw angered some Muslims when he said wearing the veil made community relations more difficult.

Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bradford/6046992.stm)

If this young lady is unable to put kids before her own wants and needs, then maybe she should look for a job that accomadates her.

I really hope the council wins this one.

[shocker1]

Somewhat related.


Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bradford/6046992.stm)

If this young lady is unable to put kids before her own wants and needs, then maybe she should look for a job that accomadates her.

I really hope the council wins this one.
Her face was covered? I would not like that either. I would have no problem with the Iranian style of covering though. From the pictures of Iran I have seen they used a little style in their Muslim dress.

[praetorian6]

So you guys want immigrants to "integrate and learn the language", but you don't want to associate with them until they do?

According to the story, this was just a one time incident where the girl was placed into the group off Chinese children, and was unable to talk with them because they were all speaking Chinese, and the one who spoke both wasn't translating enough. You can't pick up the language in one day (especially Chinese) no matter how young you are.

If people were that worried about intergration, then the Chinese children wouldn't have been in their own group to begin with.

I agree with your point, that you shouldn't ignore them until they learn the language, but ultimately it is the visitor/immigrants responsibility to learn the host countries language-but you can't fault the girl for wanting to be with a group that she could understand. It's not being racists, it's simply wanting to know what her classmates are talking about.

Anyway, the whole story seems a little BS to me.

[seraosha]

There is more to this story than the initial link.

Waiting for updates before passing any judgement.

[Danik]

And where is this statue, if I may ask? As a Serb, I'd just love to know - because I think you're talking out of your rear end. There's no history of anti-Semitism in Serbia. There is no such statue.

Lokos

I dont know, thats why I asked. It was in some russian newspaper, I found it very suspect, and out of curiosity I asked.

[Argyll]

How can a science teacher possible teach a class efficiently where some of the pupils don't speak English?

It's unfair on the pupils who don't speak English, and it's unfair on the Teacher who has to slow things down, how will these pupils possibly cope with the GCSE tests?

[koutch]

So you guys want immigrants to "integrate and learn the language", but you don't want to associate with them until they do? Give me a break.

Let me tell you, the best way to learn a language-especially when you're young- is through immersion. My father went to a Spanish school when he moved to Spain when he was 13. Didn't speak a lick of spanish, but by being in the classroom he picked it up fluently in about 3 months!

It sounds like they are trying guys, give the students a break.

As for the admin., yes, it was a complete overreaction.

Read my 2nd post, as an immigrant i find that putting 3 kids that speak urdu but no english is pointless. They will only talk to eachother and ocassionally will ask something in broken english. Thats no immerison, thats creating a ghetto.

[jojo]

According to the story, this was just a one time incident where the girl was placed into the group off Chinese children, and was unable to talk with them because they were all speaking Chinese, and the one who spoke both wasn't translating enough. You can't pick up the language in one day (especially Chinese) no matter how young you are.

If people were that worried about intergration, then the Chinese children wouldn't have been in their own group to begin with.

I agree with your point, that you shouldn't ignore them until they learn the language, but ultimately it is the visitor/immigrants responsibility to learn the host countries language-but you can't fault the girl for wanting to be with a group that she could understand. It's not being racists, it's simply wanting to know what her classmates are talking about.

Anyway, the whole story seems a little BS to me.
The kids were speaking Urdu, the girl said. Or is this another incident?!

[praetorian6]

The kids were speaking Urdu, the girl said. Or is this another incident?!

You're right, my mistake.:oops:

[dangerclose]

"I said 'I'm not being funny, but can I change groups because I can't understand them?' But she started shouting and screaming, saying 'It's racist, you're going to get done by the police'."


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[mr ping]

Following on from what the respected and learned “Geezah” posted…. My wife’s an “Asian” nursery teacher and she’s well pissed off by the actions of this muppet….

Have lurked on this site for a few years and respect the contributions of the regular’s buts its time my (miniscule) voice is heard…..

Sick and tired of everyone in the UK being so PC!!! Sick and tired of being lumped in the same generalised group of "British Asians"!!! what about the decent law abiding second, third British generation Asian NON-Muslims who DO make a genuine and valuable contribution to main stream British culture / economy / society?? My parents came over from India in the mid 60's. They never signed on to the dole, have always worked, paid their taxes etc. Same with me. My grand dad fought in WW2 as part of the British Indian Army, so did the majority of Asians (non-Muslim) coming over to the UK in the mid-60's. Please don't think that every brown face in the UK is the same!! I live in the UK, I’m English by birth and respect the culture of this land. As far as I am concerned If you don’t like it f*** off back to where you or YOUR parents came from. The Muslim pop. of this country constitutes a mere minor % of the overall population of the UK, YET so much is given over to them in the press etc. They (Muslim) hark on about the Brits and Yanks killing Muslims etc in Iraq and Afghanistan YET the majority of Muslim deaths are at the hands of all the multiples Islamic sects (Sunni vs. Shia etc) likewise in Pakistan.

Have you ever seen a “brown face” march along to a war memorial on the 11/11? If you’d been in Southall, West London 20 years ago you would have. I was there, slightly out of step in an ATC uniform. Love this land ‘coz I’m British (actually born in England), sorry that I’m just slightly over tanned……

RANT OVER - back to drinking my Glenmorangie.

[joshfox0]

Following on from what the respected and learned “Geezah” posted…. My wife’s an “Asian” nursery teacher and she’s well pissed off by the actions of this muppet….

Have lurked on this site for a few years and respect the contributions of the regular’s buts its time my (miniscule) voice is heard…..

Sick and tired of everyone in the UK being so PC!!! Sick and tired of being lumped in the same generalised group of "British Asians"!!! what about the decent law abiding second, third British generation Asian NON-Muslims who DO make a genuine and valuable contribution to main stream British culture / economy / society?? My parents came over from India in the mid 60's. They never signed on to the dole, have always worked, paid their taxes etc. Same with me. My grand dad fought in WW2 as part of the British Indian Army, so did the majority of Asians (non-Muslim) coming over to the UK in the mid-60's. Please don't think that every brown face in the UK is the same!! I live in the UK, I’m English by birth and respect the culture of this land. As far as I am concerned If you don’t like it f*** off back to where you or YOUR parents came from. The Muslim pop. of this country constitutes a mere minor % of the overall population of the UK, YET so much is given over to them in the press etc. They (Muslim) hark on about the Brits and Yanks killing Muslims etc in Iraq and Afghanistan YET the majority of Muslim deaths are at the hands of all the multiples Islamic sects (Sunni vs. Shia etc) likewise in Pakistan.

Have you ever seen a “brown face” march along to a war memorial on the 11/11? If you’d been in Southall, West London 20 years ago you would have. I was there, slightly out of step in an ATC uniform. Love this land ‘coz I’m British (actually born in England), sorry that I’m just slightly over tanned……

RANT OVER - back to drinking my Glenmorangie.

woot:hug: good man! Agreed about the Unblelevable PCness and i myself have a fair few british mates of asian ancestory. Several of whom are at Uni (filthy students p-) **suddenly remembers Fiannce is also at uni** er er crap) and i can honestly say they are some of the nicest people i know. Also there are some i know which are right Wankers but there you go! thats what you get in society. but anyway i think i've ranted on a bit so blah suffice to say i agree with you. (though i'd happily take you up on your offer to ship me to where my ancestors came from. Then again i'm not sure if Scandenavia would have me back p-))

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Following on from what the respected and learned “Geezah” posted…. My wife’s an “Asian” nursery teacher and she’s well pissed off by the actions of this muppet….

Have lurked on this site for a few years and respect the contributions of the regular’s buts its time my (miniscule) voice is heard…..

Sick and tired of everyone in the UK being so PC!!! Sick and tired of being lumped in the same generalised group of "British Asians"!!! what about the decent law abiding second, third British generation Asian NON-Muslims who DO make a genuine and valuable contribution to main stream British culture / economy / society?? My parents came over from India in the mid 60's. They never signed on to the dole, have always worked, paid their taxes etc. Same with me. My grand dad fought in WW2 as part of the British Indian Army, so did the majority of Asians (non-Muslim) coming over to the UK in the mid-60's. Please don't think that every brown face in the UK is the same!! I live in the UK, I’m English by birth and respect the culture of this land. As far as I am concerned If you don’t like it f*** off back to where you or YOUR parents came from. The Muslim pop. of this country constitutes a mere minor % of the overall population of the UK, YET so much is given over to them in the press etc. They (Muslim) hark on about the Brits and Yanks killing Muslims etc in Iraq and Afghanistan YET the majority of Muslim deaths are at the hands of all the multiples Islamic sects (Sunni vs. Shia etc) likewise in Pakistan.

Have you ever seen a “brown face” march along to a war memorial on the 11/11? If you’d been in Southall, West London 20 years ago you would have. I was there, slightly out of step in an ATC uniform. Love this land ‘coz I’m British (actually born in England), sorry that I’m just slightly over tanned……

RANT OVER - back to drinking my Glenmorangie.

Too right couldn't agree more. My wife is from a similar background to yourself so we know where you're coming from.

[LazyLob]

Too right couldn't agree more. My wife is from a similar background to yourself so we know where you're coming from.

Chorus of support from over here........

[Argyll]

excellent post Mr.Ping!!

[mountainbear]

excellent post Mr.Ping!!
x2
It’s exactly what I and the British side of my family fells.
They arrived in England in the 70's but from Uganda, being thrown out by Idi-Amin

[MaydayJohnson]

So sorry UK!! Your country sucks now :(

[Midav]

Someone that likes Glenmorangie must be a good man! Good post and welcome aboard, mr. ping!!

[Minardiau]

For the people that are whinging about this. Just remember that the UK being the largest and most powerfull empire the world has ever seen and more likely will ever see incorpated a huge variety of cultures, races and religions.

As such the movement of people back to the "Mother Country" is always going to happen. Especially once indpendance is achieved and the locals would prefer to remain "British"

[One]

Some of you were bitching in the other thread about the cab driver and how he is being racist, yet a white girl has the right to be racist?

[HOLLiS]

Some of you were bitching in the other thread about the cab driver and how he is being racist, yet a white girl has the right to be racist?


How is the girl a racists when the whole story is not clear?

Kids that don't know English should not be mainstreamed in school, it is not fair to any one. There needs to be ESL classes (english as a second language). One the kids are proficient then they can be mainstreamed.

This is also similar with kids with different learning abilities. It has nothing to do with racism, but learning abilities.

[Midav]

Some of you were bitching in the other thread about the cab driver and how he is being racist, yet a white girl has the right to be racist?

It is called reading and comprehension:

The teenager had not been in school the day before due to a hospital appointment and had missed the start of a project, so the teacher allocated her a group to sit with.

"She said I had to sit there with five Asian pupils," said Codie yesterday.
"Only one could speak English, so she had to tell that one what to do so she could explain in their language. Then she sat me with them and said 'Discuss'."
According to Codie, the five - four boys and a girl - then began talking in a language she didn't understand, thought to be Urdu, so she went to speak to the teacher.
"I said 'I'm not being funny, but can I change groups because I can't understand them?'

[Rubber Johnny]

Some of you were bitching in the other thread about the cab driver and how he is being racist, yet a white girl has the right to be racist?

How ignorant can you be to just simply claim the girl was being racist?
****, even if the story isn't exactly as it was published, how can you possibly know if the girl was acting in a racist way or not?

And assuming the article is correct more-or-less, would you like to spend your school time trying to discuss with a bunch of other kids that don't speak your language? Wouldn't you like to change a group for the sake of actual learning?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

For the people that are whinging about this. Just remember that the UK being the largest and most powerfull empire the world has ever seen and more likely will ever see incorpated a huge variety of cultures, races and religions.

As such the movement of people back to the "Mother Country" is always going to happen. Especially once indpendance is achieved and the locals would prefer to remain "British"

Exactly. From a personal point of view I have o problem with people from former British Empire countries coming to the UK.
But Albania/Kosovo was never part of the British Empire so why are so many Albanian crims over here?

[oldsoak]

Exactly. From a personal point of view I have o problem with people from former British Empire countries coming to the UK.
But Albania/Kosovo was never part of the British Empire so why are so many Albanian crims over here?

because its safer ? and we wont send them back to the fate they so richly deserve ?

[BigBaribal]

Just a question: on the legal point of view, does the liberty of association exist in the British law?

[LazyLob]

Just a question: on the legal point of view, does the liberty of association exist in the British law?

It depends on the judge's state of mind at that moment in time.

[BigBaribal]

It depends on the judge's state of mind at that moment in time.

Ok, so basically, England is no more a free country. Sad.

[BigBaribal]

Ok, so basically, England is no more a free country. Sad.

A legal question: can the police forces now oblige British-native parents to send their daughters in muslim schools to reach state quotas?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410312&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

[Bacilluspolymyxa]

Ok, so basically, England is no more a free country. Sad.Was it ever a free country.

[BigBaribal]

I spent some time in England and Scotland some 15 years ago and it was a marvellous experience for me, such a beautiful country, with so gentle and charming people. And also this strong and so good feeling of common decency.

Now, when I look at the news about Great-Britain, I've the sensation of looking at some kind of political boot-camp experiment conducted by a mad and dictatorial social engineer.

I think your country is simply gone. Geographically, it's still Great-Britain, but the living Britain, its spirit, is gone. Sad, very sad.

[LazyLob]

A legal question: can the police forces now oblige British-native parents to send their daughters in muslim schools to reach state quotas?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410312&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments


No.......................

There's a very fine line between being nice 'n gentle and being an inverterbrate ;-)

[Moongazer]

I fail to see how this affects America... Unless it spreads..like communism!

You're right, PC is very contagious.

[Moongazer]

And where is this statue, if I may ask? As a Serb, I'd just love to know - because I think you're talking out of your rear end. There's no history of anti-Semitism in Serbia. There is no such statue.

Lokos

He's just a provoker.
Don't pay attention.

[Crazed Aussie]

Following on from what the respected and learned “Geezah” posted…. My wife’s an “Asian” nursery teacher and she’s well pissed off by the actions of this muppet….

Have lurked on this site for a few years and respect the contributions of the regular’s buts its time my (miniscule) voice is heard…..

Sick and tired of everyone in the UK being so PC!!! Sick and tired of being lumped in the same generalised group of "British Asians"!!! what about the decent law abiding second, third British generation Asian NON-Muslims who DO make a genuine and valuable contribution to main stream British culture / economy / society?? My parents came over from India in the mid 60's. They never signed on to the dole, have always worked, paid their taxes etc. Same with me. My grand dad fought in WW2 as part of the British Indian Army, so did the majority of Asians (non-Muslim) coming over to the UK in the mid-60's. Please don't think that every brown face in the UK is the same!! I live in the UK, I’m English by birth and respect the culture of this land. As far as I am concerned If you don’t like it f*** off back to where you or YOUR parents came from. The Muslim pop. of this country constitutes a mere minor % of the overall population of the UK, YET so much is given over to them in the press etc. They (Muslim) hark on about the Brits and Yanks killing Muslims etc in Iraq and Afghanistan YET the majority of Muslim deaths are at the hands of all the multiples Islamic sects (Sunni vs. Shia etc) likewise in Pakistan.

Have you ever seen a “brown face” march along to a war memorial on the 11/11? If you’d been in Southall, West London 20 years ago you would have. I was there, slightly out of step in an ATC uniform. Love this land ‘coz I’m British (actually born in England), sorry that I’m just slightly over tanned……

RANT OVER - back to drinking my Glenmorangie.

I think youre right on the money. Too much press for a tiny minority makes em look sooo much bigger. And the good folks like yourself aren't newsworthy for sensational bylines in the papers. Nice to see a fellow Single-Malt drinker enjoying the nectar

[Demigod-17]

this is ****ing stupid, i know whatever i write will be bias because i have an anti foreign slant but why are they even in the country if they don't speak the language? why should tax payers pay for education of people that cant be bothered to learn the language? makes no sense..

[Moongazer]

Well, everybody first time don't speak language when they come to another country. And it's not a crime to not speak english... just a big problem. You won't get a good job, you'll be comstantly misunderstood... it's better to learn it ASAP.

But you're changing the subj. We're talking about cretinism also known as PC, not about poor emigrant's problems.

[Gauntlet]

As said before, this is really stupid. This girl is not racist, she was unfortable that she was the only fluent English speaker in the group. The girl saw that a language barrier is too hard of a barrier to break in a school project. A barrier like that would sevrely slow down her group or leave her out since the majority spoke a different language. She saw it was not a favorable situation for her because of the language barrier. Nothing is wrong with that.

[TheKiwi]

He's just a provoker.
Don't pay attention.

Lokos may be many things newbie, but he knows his stuff. You on the other hand are well worth paying no attention to.

[Moongazer]

Lokos may be many things newbie, but he knows his stuff. You on the other hand are well worth paying no attention to.
I wasn't talking about Lokos, I was talking to Lokos.
Maybe you better use your eyes better next time, vet?

[California Joe]

You, shut up.

[Moongazer]

Thanks, he was pretty annoying.

[BigBaribal]

You're right, PC is very contagious.


Frankly, what kind of drugs are the British social engineers taking?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410563&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&ct=5&expand=true#StartComments

Your country looks more and more like a legal hell hole, after having been for so many centuries the country of the reasonable justice.

[BigBaribal]

"This girl is not racist..."

The problem is not really here.

Racism is a bad thing, but liberty of association is one of the main principle of a free society.

Also, if I was a British parent, I would prefer to send my daughter to a school where her comrads speak the native language of the country and not urdu, hmong or farsi (ever heard of the Babel tower story?).

Is it already qualified as "racism" in Great-Britain to wish that your children are taught in the local language? Of course, when I read that more than 106 languages are spoken in Edinbrough schools, I wonder if there is still a "local" language (or anything local) remaining in Great-Britain.

[Bacilluspolymyxa]

I wonder if there is still a "local" language (or anything local) remaining in Great-Britain.I speak with a Scottish, Turkish, Chinese and Albanian lilt which many Swiss tourists find attractive.

[Moongazer]

Frankly, what kind of drugs are the British social engineers taking?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410563&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&ct=5&expand=true#StartComments

Your country looks more and more like a legal hell hole, after having been for so many centuries the country of the reasonable justice.
Mine? :)

P.S. Europe today is really throwing a towel before hordes of barbarians.

[BigBaribal]

Ok, tell me it's a joke. Please, tell me it's a joke!


A 7ft 2ins Pakistani woman is to live in Britain on benefits after claiming asylum because she is 'too tall' to return home.

Zainab Bibi, 33, claims she faces constant persecution and ridicule in her own country over her height. She has lodged an asylum claim with the Home Office and has already been granted a two-year visa to remain in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410776&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments



Young asylum seekers and refugees are to be given free clowning lessons at taxpayers' expense to help them adapt to life in Britain, it emerged.

The youngsters aged 12 to 25 will learn slapstick routines, how to tumble, silly walks and how to fall over during a course of nine theatre workshops estimated to cost up to a total of £2,000.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410980&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments


Btw, is it true that old British people with diabet, after a certain age, cannot get anymore their treatment, because of lack of funds? Just to compare it with these news.

[Moongazer]

That's absolutely (polit)correct. You'll need a clowning lessons to live in such country as UK.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

It's amazing how a trivial classroom incident in Manchester can bring so many foreign weirdos out of the woodwork :roll:

[Hydro]

I think the clowning lessons things is absolutely fantastic. We need more of this stuff.

[Ea$y-8]

I have a personal account from middle school much like the story in the OP.

I almost got in a fight with a Mexican student for pushing me. No only did I threaten to kill him if he did it again. I also told him to speak english we he started talking trash in Spanish. Not only did I get written up for death threats it also said I made racist comments.

People need to get over this BS.

[Moongazer]

It's amazing how a trivial classroom incident in Manchester can bring so many foreign weirdos out of woodwork :roll:
It's amazing how once a good european country swiftly turning to sanctuarity of madness.

I almost got in a fight with a Mexican student for pushing me. No only did I threaten to kill him if he did it again.
You were supposed to hit him in the face instantly. That would be perfectly PC.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

It's amazing how once a good european country swiftly turning to sanctuarity of madness.

Hmm I actually live in the UK. I don't need some foreign moonbat trying to tell me what's going on on my own doorstep :roll:

We have occasional bursts of eccentricity which we tolerate because of our long tradition of free speech for real examples of madness in Europe I suggest you look at any of the post communist Eastern European sh1tholes.

[Moongazer]

Hmm I actually live in the UK. I don't need some foreign moonbat trying to tell me what's going on on my own doorstep :roll:
Oh yes, I see famous british snobbery.
I wonder, will you keep majestic expression of your face when for the sake of politcorrectness your lawmakers oblige you to satisfy arab and indian emigrants sexually?


We have occasional bursts of eccentricity which we tolerate because of our long tradition of free speech
So, PC madness is merely a form of free speech?
This is rich.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

I think the clowning lessons things is absolutely fantastic. We need more of this stuff.


Couldn't agree more. We need to develop the next generation Mont Python etc.

[Moongazer]

You have enough clowns in govt. One Bliar worth a whole division!

[BigBaribal]

Couldn't agree more. We need to develop the next generation Mont Python etc.

Ok, so it continues (please tell me, it's a joke).

A secondary school has come under fire for banning Christian pupils from wearing rings symbolising a belief in chastity until marriage.

Millais School in West Sussex has banned the silver 'purity rings', arguing that they fall foul of the school's no-jewellery policy, which only allows pupils to wear simple single stud earrings.

But the school has been accused of double standards as it allows Muslim pupils to wear headscarves and Sikh pupils kara bracelets as a means of religious expression.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410959&in_page_id=1770

So, if I've understood the story in a correct way, basically you can go now to British schools dressed like a Sikh warrior, like a Taliban-supergirl or like an Apache chief (hey, it's my heritage), but you are now banned from British schools if you have a ridiculously small Christian ring on your hand! I presume that anything that looks British, Christian or simply typically European is now viewed like a "hate" thing in the PC Blairistan (I remember too stories of St George crosses or Scottish kilts being banned from local celebrations by the social engineering police).

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Oh yes, I see famous british snobbery.
I wonder, will you keep majestic expression of your face when for the sake of politcorrectness your lawmakers oblige you to satisfy arab and indian emigrants sexually?

Yes I was right. You are indeed a moonbat and an obvious racist as well.


So, PC madness is merely a form of free speech?
This is rich.


How naive are you? :roll: Reports of PC madness are greatly exaggerated - because they make good copy for right wing newspapers like the Daily Mail which you seem to keep quoting (the paper that supported Hitler).

[BigBaribal]

.....which we tolerate because of our long tradition of free speech ....

But it seems to me that free speech doesn't exist anymore in Britain, you can go now to jail (like this 14 years old girl) for having said this or that.

In fact, "free speech" is a very precise concept. You cannot have a limited "free speech" by social engineering laws, because it's no more free speech at all.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Ok, so it continues (please tell me, it's a joke).



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410959&in_page_id=1770

So, if I've understood the story in a correct way, basically you can go now to British schools dressed like a Sikh warrior, like a Taliban-supergirl or like an Apache chief (hey, it's my heritage), but you are now banned from British schools if you have a ridiculously small Christian ring on your hand! I presume that anything that looks British, Christian or simply typically European is now viewed like a "hate" thing in the PC Blairistan (I remember too stories of St George crosses or Scottish kilts being banned from local celebrations by the social engineering police).

If you want to be taken seriously stop quoting the Daily Mail :) (the paper that supported Hitler).

Oh I just remembered you're the Swiss Nazi who got banned a while back for being guess what a Nazi aren't you?

[BigBaribal]

Your arguments are very sophisticated and new, congratulations. Goodwin point reached in two seconds six tenth: that was über-fast, the mark of a specialist in the discipline :-)

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Ok, so it continues (please tell me, it's a joke).



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410959&in_page_id=1770

So, if I've understood the story in a correct way, basically you can go now to British schools dressed like a Sikh warrior, like a Taliban-supergirl or like an Apache chief (hey, it's my heritage), but you are now banned from British schools if you have a ridiculously small Christian ring on your hand! I presume that anything that looks British, Christian or simply typically European is now viewed like a "hate" thing in the PC Blairistan (I remember too stories of St George crosses or Scottish kilts being banned from local celebrations by the social engineering police).

Rings will be banned in order to limit the damage done during acts of violence. You've obviously never seen how someone's face can get carved up by a ring.
You can't carve someone's face up with a headscarf :roll:

[BigBaribal]

"....because they make good copy for right wing newspapers like the Daily Mail which you seem to keep quoting..."

Btw, it's wrong, the story of "British" Airways banning a worker for a little cross made local and national news in Swiss and French press.

[LRPV]

Rings will be banned in order to limit the damage done during acts of violence. You've obviously never seen how someone's face can get carved up by a ring.
You can't carve someone's face up with a headscarf :roll:

Rings will be banned? From 14 year old girls? Idiocy!!!

[BigBaribal]

"You've obviously never seen how someone's face can get carved up by a ring."

Finally, a rational argument without an ex-German chancellier coming to make a turn. Of course, it's clearly obvious that Christian teen girls, who have a ring, because they want to stay virgins up to the marriage, are the ones spreading terror and insecurity in the courtyards of schools in England.

If you see such a girl, call the police immediately and find a good hide-place, while waiting for the anti-terror squads.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Rings will be banned? From 14 year old girls? Idiocy!!!

So you don't think that a 14 year old girl is capable of carving another girl's face up.

Some of you people on here have obviously led VERY sheltered lives :roll:

[LRPV]

STAB will probably tell you there are no teenage virgins in Britain.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

"You've obviously never seen how someone's face can get carved up by a ring."

Finally, a rational argument without an ex-German chancellier coming to make a turn. Of course, it's clearly obvious that Christian teen girls, who have a ring, because they want to stay virgins up to the marriage, are the ones spreading terror and insecurity in the courtyards of schools in England.

If you see such a girl, call the police immediately and find a good hide-place, while waiting for the anti-terror squads.

So you don't think that rules about jewellery should be applied equally? Are you going to waste your time making a decision in each case about what can be allowed and what is not or who will be allowed and who will not be allowed? What criteria will you use?

[LRPV]

So you don't think that a 14 year old girl is capable of carving another girl's face up.

Some you people on here have obviously led VERY sheltered lives :roll:

Depends what you call sheltered STAB. I first put on a uniform in 1981. Still wear one. Can't say I've led a Rambo existence, but I think I've seen my share.

14 year old girls commonly wear jewellery in western society. Should this be banned? Think hard about this culture of banning things and the ramifications to social development.

[BigBaribal]

"You've obviously never seen how someone's face can get carved up by a ring."

Of course, teen girls having a ring because they want to stay virgins up to the marriage are well-known for spreading insecurity in British schools.

Or, if I'm wrong (what is quite possible), the England of 15 years ago, I loved so much, has really changed in a dramatic way!
It it's true, these changes should be deeply investigated.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Depends what you call sheltered STAB. I first put on a uniform in 1981. Still wear one. Can't say I've led a Rambo existence, but I think I've seen my share.

14 year old girls commonly wear jewellery in western society. Should this be banned? Think hard about this culture of banning things and the ramifications to social development.

It's about banning things on school property for health and safety /public liability reasons not banning things in wider society.
IIRC guns are banned in schools in the USA for the same reason.

[BigBaribal]

"Should this be banned? Think hard about this culture of banning things and the ramifications to social development."

In fact, the main problem is the obvious double-standard, so obvious than many people try so hard not to see it.

For instance, in Canada, Sikh kids are allowed to wear their knives, because it's their heritage (in a PC country, the heritage of the non-locals is always sacred, while the heritage of the locals is ready for the dustbin). And I can perfectly imagine that in a country as PC as Canada, locals girls could be banned from having little rings for fake and absurd security reasons, of course without the social engineering team noticing the double-standard.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

"You've obviously never seen how someone's face can get carved up by a ring."

Of course, teen girls having a ring because they want to stay virgins up to the marriage are well-known for spreading insecurity in British schools.

Or, if I'm wrong (what is quite possible), the England of 15 years ago, I loved so much, has really changed in a dramatic way!
It it's true, these changes should be deeply investigated.

If a ban is in place it should apply to all. Otherwise it is inequitable.

Well I'd rather live in the England of today than in the tedious nation of phobic handwashers and antiseptic Nazis that you call home.

[BigBaribal]

STAB will probably tell you there are no teenage virgins in Britain. :-)

Except the ones of course who wear a burkha!

Ouch, I'm sure a social engineer could have the following idea "burkha for every British girl", so security and decency are guaranteed.

In fact, the idea is already around:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410312&in_page_id=1770

[BigBaribal]

a_very_ex_STAB, could you make two or three posts without calling me a nazi, did I call you an islamo-fascist?

[a_very_ex_STAB]

a_very_ex_STAB, could you make two or three posts without calling me a nazi, did I call you an islamo-fascist?

I call it as I see it. If you don't like it tough.

[BigBaribal]

"Well I'd rather live in the England of today...."

In the England of yesterday and I'm not speaking of Henry V's time, just 15 years ago, I could go in every part of London, without feeling threatened. And without making big political theories, I dont' think that the changes which made the England of today are so positive. It's not without reasons that so many British natives are leaving their homeland to settle down on the continent (even in my area, I see more and more British guys and girls coming and they are of course welcome).

[a_very_ex_STAB]

"Well I'd rather live in the England of today...."

In the England of yesterday and I'm not speaking of Henry V's time, just 15 years ago, I could go in every part of London, without feeling threatened.


I go whereever I like and I don't feel threatened. Maybe you're just timid and neurotic.

[BigBaribal]

I call it as I see it. If you don't like it tough.

Frankly, for me I dont' care, but I thought you could look pathetic with a so poor argumentation or even be banned for attacking this way a poster (I'm pretty sure insults are not allowed on this board).

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Frankly, for me I dont' care, but I thought you could look pathetic with a so poor argumentation or even be banned for attacking this way a poster (I'm pretty sure insults are not allowed on this board).

IIRC you've already been banned once for being a Nazi so I have not said anything that is factually incorrect.

[BigBaribal]

IIRC you've already been banned once for being a Nazi so I have not said anything that is factually incorrect.

Sorry, but I'm neither German nor national-socialist.

Can perhaps a moderator tell "a_very_ex_STAB" to stop this name calling? Thanks.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Sorry, but I'm neither German nor national-socialist.

Can perhaps a moderator tell "a_very_ex_STAB" to stop this name calling? Thanks.

You don't need to be wurst muncher to be a Nazi - but you knew that :)

[Bacilluspolymyxa]

"Well I'd rather live in the England of today...."

In the England of yesterday and I'm not speaking of Henry V's time, just 15 years ago, I could go in every part of London, without feeling threatened. And without making big political theories, I dont' think that the changes which made the England of today are so positive. It's not without reasons that so many British natives are leaving their homeland to settle down on the continent (even in my area, I see more and more British guys and girls coming and they are of course welcome).You really crack me up BigBaribal, I have and will again walk through the streets of London alone in the early hours of the morning containing a good charge of drink with a pizza in hand without fear of molestation. My brother who lived in London for 9 years and still works there has only ever had one confrontation and that was in an oh so very nice and white area of Docklands.

[Moongazer]

Yes I was right. You are indeed a moonbat and an obvious racist as well.
roflroflrofl
Of course I'm racist.
I even dare to say word "negro" or "black" instead of African-American.
I even dare to say word "fag" instead of Anal-American.
I even dare to say word "woman" instead of Vaginal-American!!!
roflroflrofl

BTW, what happened very recently in France teached you nothing?
Ok, continue to play in your PC games until rude awakening.


How naive are you? :roll: Reports of PC madness are greatly exaggerated - because they make good copy for right wing newspapers like the Daily Mail which you seem to keep quoting (the paper that supported Hitler).
Well, you just proved otherwise. If somebody babbling about racism when you dare not to worship God of Politcorrectness and call a monkey a monkey (for PC-dolts - monkey is not about race/etnicity/sex/religion/etc, but only about evolution level), that means PC already damaged his brain irreversibly. That's a really scare thing, not some newspaper stories about girl being thrown in jail for not knowing Urdu.

BTW, are you living in accordance with Shariat law? Not yet?
Be prepared.


P.S. About racism: there are only 3 races on Earth - europeoid (white), mongoloid (yellow) and negroid (black).
Arabs and Indians belong to what race? Right, to white.
So, my dislike to those nations can be named "racism" only by complete ignoramus or PC-brainwashed idiot.
For PC-brainwashed idiots: I dislike specimens of those nations not because their bodily characteristics, but because of their culture level (which is pretty low, in my humble opinion). And even representatives of those nations can earn my respect, if they acting like intelligent and cultural human being with good manners, not like cavemen.

[Moongazer]

Rings will be banned in order to limit the damage done during acts of violence. You've obviously never seen how someone's face can get carved up by a ring.
You can't carve someone's face up with a headscarf :roll:
Then pens must be banned too.
Human can be killed very easily by pen.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

It looks like our feeble minded foreign 'advisors' still haven't grasped the simple fact that the reason these trivial classroom PC incidents get reported in hysterical right wing rags like the Daily Mail is because they are actually the exception in the UK and not the rule. :roll:

But carry on getting the wrong end of the stick guys it just makes it easier to take the piss out of you.:)

[artistoli]

If it is true then I think its about time that the decent school kids out there should walk out and refuse to go to school until they get such rubbish sorted out.

I remember being incredibly frustrated at high school in England (not that long ago, the late 1990s) with all of the politically correct rubbish. The teachers at the school I went to (Ounsdale High, Wombourne, South Staffs) were mostly Islam loving, anti-white, anti-British traitors.

[vrb]

If it is true then I think its about time that the decent school kids out there should walk out and refuse to go to school until they get such rubbish sorted out.

I remember being incredibly frustrated at high school in England (not that long ago, the late 1990s) with all of the politically correct rubbish. The teachers at the school I went to (Ounsdale High, Wombourne, South Staffs) were mostly Islam loving, anti-white, anti-British traitors.

What you want is some ex army teachers like we had at my school (London Oratory, Fulham). Take no crap from anyone including the other teachers.

They were sadistic though (quite normal for a Catholic school):oops:

[a_very_ex_STAB]

What you want is some ex army teachers like we had at my school (London Oratory, Fulham). Take no crap from anyone including the other teachers.

They were sadistic though (quite normal for a Catholic school):oops:

Sounds like you went to a similar Catholic school to me :)

[Moongazer]

It looks like our feeble minded foreign 'advisors' still haven't grasped the simple fact that the reason these trivial classroom PC incidents get reported in hysterical right wing rags like the Daily Mail is because they are actually the exception in the UK and not the rule. :roll:
Bark what you want, mr. British Snob, but I've enough evidence to say otherwise.

[Danik]

They were sadistic though (quite normal for a Catholic school):oops:


Catholic school kids....when will they tell the teachers there that negative reinforcment does not work.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Bark what you want, mr. British Snob, but I've enough evidence to say otherwise.

So Moonbat which sh1thole do you come from?
Let us know so we can start taking the piss properly :)

[BigBaribal]

Jokes continue! Please, tell me they aren't true!



Obviously, a Catholic school in England, which gives a good teaching with well behaved children, is a baaaad school for the PC state gauleiters, if it doesn't teach islam and all the other faiths of the entire galaxy:

The report said the pupils, who are largely from white backgrounds, are well behaved but "there is limited development of the pupils' awareness of Britain's cultural diversity."
The comments made by inspectors coincide with the nationwide debate on the role of faith and faith schools in state education.

http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=1084&ArticleID=1834170



PC troopers at work, in full double-standard mode:

A MAN collecting signatures backing Jack Straw's criticism of Muslim veils was arrested - because he was wearing a balaclava.

James Scott, 40, wore the black headpiece to demonstrate veils were a barrier to communication.

But he refused to remove it when asked by two women police officers.


The landscape gardener claimed he had 200 signatures backing the ex-Foreign Secretary's request for Muslims to remove veils when talking to him.


Mr Scott said: "I was angry at people criticising Jack Straw. I think he's right. It is nothing to do with race or religion."

[Moongazer]

So Moonbat which sh1thole do you come from?
Let us know so we can start taking the piss properly :)
Read my posts. If you got brain (and I highly doubt that) it will be obviuos for you.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Read my posts. If you got brain (and I highly doubt that) it will be obviuos for you.

I've got better things to do with my time than go looking through the random ravings of a moonbat.
You're reluctance to admit the shameful truth about your origins speaks volumes.

[BigBaribal]

Perhaps, an explanation here:

At the secret meeting in London last month, which was hosted by veteran broadcaster Sue Lawley, BBC executives admitted the corporation is dominated by homosexuals and people from ethnic minorities, deliberately promotes multiculturalism, is anti-American, anti-countryside and more sensitive to the feelings of Muslims than Christians.

One veteran BBC executive said: 'There was widespread acknowledgement that we may have gone too far in the direction of political correctness.

'Unfortunately, much of it is so deeply embedded in the BBC's culture, that it is very hard to change it.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411846&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Perhaps, an explanation here:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411846&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

You seem to think that the BBC is the totality of the British media.
It isn't :roll:

[Moongazer]

I've got better things to do with my time than go looking through the random ravings of a moonbat.
You're reluctance to admit the shameful truth about your origins speaks volumes.
If you're don't have enough curves to press 'search' buttons don't think I'll waste pearls on you.
My special advice for you - keep quet, and somebody'll think you're clever.

[Satellite Weapon]

Yes I suspect there is more to it. Probably involving someone throwing a Vicki Pollard-esque hissy fit.

I doubt we'll every get the real story

[a_very_ex_STAB]

If you're don't have enough curves to press 'search' buttons don't think I'll waste pearls on you.
My special advice for you - keep quet, and somebody'll think you're clever.


Still avoiding the issue I see. I'm guessing your reluctant to fess up the awful truth because when you do us Brits will roll about laughing at the idea of someone from a failed state presuming to lecture us on how to organize our society.

Come on don't be shy out with it.:)

[Freedom06]

Bark what you want, mr. British Snob, but I've enough evidence to say otherwise.

ahhh 'Mr british snob' rofl - I don't think they get the Fast Show down Moongazers' way......