View Full Version : Pic of the Moment #4
Seoulstriker
04-09-2004, 10:42 AM
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/foreign%20terrorist.jpg
elguapo
04-09-2004, 10:46 AM
rag head.... literally
what's the story behind that one?
Seoulstriker
04-09-2004, 10:48 AM
the original caption was: "an armed iraqi shiite muslim..."
he's obviously a foreign terrorist. that's probably what we're mostly dealing with in fallujah (except for those iraqi insurgents).
UkrainianAmerican
04-09-2004, 10:49 AM
Hes hoilding a fcuking PPsH.
A soviet WW2 SMG.
UkrainianAmerican
04-09-2004, 10:50 AM
the original caption was: "an armed iraqi shiite muslim..."
he's obviously a foreign terrorist. that's probably what we're mostly dealing with in fallujah (except for those iraqi insurgents).
Yeah he looks like an Iranian (Persian)
elguapo
04-09-2004, 10:55 AM
that explains the unusual weapon
I'd go with Chechnyan before saying Iranian.
Brozozo
04-09-2004, 11:14 AM
I'd go with Chechnyan before saying Iranian.
I'd also say Chechen, he's very caucasian looking. Or maybe he's a Delta op... p-)
Rantanplan
04-09-2004, 11:15 AM
looks north american or european to me.
HELEX
04-09-2004, 11:21 AM
he's obviously a foreign terrorist. that's probably what we're mostly dealing with in fallujah (except for those iraqi insurgents).
Sure, just foreign terrorists.... The Iraqis love the occupants.
Seoulstriker
04-09-2004, 12:16 PM
do you think that he could be an al-Qaeda trained chechen?
he looks extremely european. what about uzbek or kazak?
REMOV
04-09-2004, 12:21 PM
that explains the unusual weaponMhm... the PPSh submachinegun was made under Russian licence in Persia (now Iran) during the Second World War. It was adopted by Iranian army as AFAIR submachinegun Model 1322 (their calendar is shifted by 621 years, so this is Model 1943). After the war was still produced by in 9mm calibre.
I'd say he's Bosnian Muslim? ;)
I'd go with Chechnyan before saying Iranian.
I'd also say Chechen, he's very caucasian looking. Or maybe he's a Delta op... p-)
I have some Iranian friends and they look pure white, I mean, blue eyes, brown hair. Their dad has brown hair and there mom as blond hair... I thought everyone in the middle east looked like Osama for the longest time.......
Merik
04-09-2004, 04:27 PM
he's obviously a foreign terrorist. that's probably what we're mostly dealing with in fallujah (except for those iraqi insurgents).
Sure, just foreign terrorists.... The Iraqis love the occupants.
Are you some kind of moron that just doesnt get it? He said "except the iraqi insurgents", key word there being IRAQI.
Ngati Tumatauenga
04-09-2004, 04:28 PM
I have some Iranian friends and they look pure white, I mean, blue eyes, brown hair. Their dad has brown hair and there mom as blond hair... I thought everyone in the middle east looked like Osama for the longest time.......
Exactly, that area has been one big melting pot of ethnicity for thousands of years. From Alexander the Great to Ghengis Khan, they've all spent time there.
Not all Middle Easteners look like Omar Sharif. :cantbeli:
wulfstan
04-09-2004, 04:30 PM
All the Iranians i ever met looked Middle Eastern, and as for the bosnians and uzbeks, in my experience they look like Turks since all those territories were colonised during the Ottoman Empire days . This bloke looks so Northern European it's unreal. Caucasians (the area around the Caspian sea) is a misnomer when it comes to a category to describe white people. People from the Caucasus, like Georgians, Chechens etc, are swarthy in a way that Northern and even Mediteranean people aren't.
This guy could be from anywhere in Northern Europe, but seeing as he is there, in that situation, weilding a firearm and willing to have his photo taken he deserves everything coming to him in the form a 7.62 round.
Marmot1
04-09-2004, 04:33 PM
that explains the unusual weaponMhm... the PPSh submachinegun was made under Russian licence in Persia (now Iran) during the Second World War. It was adopted by Iranian army as AFAIR submachinegun Model 1322 (their calendar is shifted by 621 years, so this is Model 1943). After the war was still produced by in 9mm calibre.
621 years??? Not exactly, their calendar changes from year to year since they are using moon(~29) not the solar months... (In religion, since in real life they still use 12 month solar calendar...) So basically every 33 years they are one year closer to our callendar...
Islamic calendar
(Redirected from Muslim calendar)
The Islamic calendar is a purely lunar calendar of 12 months and a lunar year of usually 354 days. Each month can be either 29 or 30 days long. Because the lunar year is shorter than the solar year, Muslim holy days cycle backwards in relation to the purely solar Western calendar. This had given rise to a Western misperception. The Islamic lunar calendar is not inaccurate, because it is a pure lunar calendar.
The number of days in each month is not set. Rather, each month begins at sunset on the day of the first sighting of the lunar crescent following a new moon. Traditionally, this requires a sighting by a human observer, which was a motivation for the Islamic interest in astronomy that put Islam in the forefront of that science for many centuries. This practice is still followed in many parts of the world, like Pakistan and Jordan. In some countries like Malaysia and Indonesia, the process is simplified by beginning each month at sunset on the first day that the moon sets after the sun. In Egypt, the month begins at sunset on the first day that the moon sets at least five minutes after the sun. The official Umm al-Qura calendar of Saudi Arabia has recently changed. Before AH 1420, if the moon's age at sunset in Riyad was at least 12 hours, then the day ending at that sunset was the first day of the month. For AH 1420-22, if moonset occurred after sunset at Mecca, then the day beginning at that sunset was the first day of the month. Beginning AH 1423, if moonset occurs after sunset at Mecca and the geocentric conjunction of the sun and moon occurs before sunset, then the day beginning at that sunset will be the first day of the month. Astronomically, both moonset and sunset occur when the refracted upper limbs of the moon and sun reach the refracted horizon, that is, when their centers are 50 arcminutes below the geometric horizon, the horizon determined by a horizontal plane at sea level at the observer's location. These simplifications allow the calendar to be determined in advance, which it cannot be by the traditional method.
wulfstan
04-09-2004, 04:35 PM
that explains the unusual weaponMhm... the PPSh submachinegun was made under Russian licence in Persia (now Iran) during the Second World War. It was adopted by Iranian army as AFAIR submachinegun Model 1322 (their calendar is shifted by 621 years, so this is Model 1943). After the war was still produced by in 9mm calibre.
621??? not exactly it changes since they are using moon(28) not the solar months... well in religion since in real life they use 12 month solar calendar...
confusing post, think i know what you're on about...
radon
04-09-2004, 05:42 PM
He doesent look like he is from Chechnya. All the chechenians in pictures have dark hair. And "Iran" comes from "Aryan".
But I guess he comes from Sweden :roll:
MaDuce
04-09-2004, 06:23 PM
I'd say he is Universal or HELEX.
Subliminal One
04-09-2004, 09:14 PM
One of them Slavic Muslims.
Yes he may not be a foreign man. Its a common misconception that there are few caucasian skin toned people in the region but there are actually many.......Of course he may be chechen but then again he may be from just about anywhere....the only thing I want to say is he has a remarkably shiny new PPsh subgun..I havnt seen one in use that shiny new in a long long long time......
Good to see that the ole "pepeshah" subgun is still in use after all these years.... Everyone I know who have used it say its a great weapon......... I do know that many Germans in WW2 on the eastern front prefered the ppsh over the MP and would take captured examples for use........I believe, though not 100% sure, that the ppsh had better cold weather durability and was more reliable as well as it being highly useful since captured ammo was more available after supply lines got stretched hehe.....
to free the oppressed
04-10-2004, 02:58 AM
I'd go with Chechnyan before saying Iranian.
I'd also say Chechen, he's very caucasian looking. Or maybe he's a Delta op... p-)
Let's just say he's an ugly ass white man.
Truthsayer
04-10-2004, 03:14 AM
I would however, like to have that PPSh...
Anyone that downs him and gets it should PM me. ;)
ShotOver
04-10-2004, 04:12 AM
haha, looks like a superbowl ring that he has. Got to be Delta...
Dosnt know how to tie his Shamah either.
wulfstan
04-10-2004, 12:39 PM
Sshhh everyone, he's SAS or Delta on an op, don't blow his cover...
ChuckThunder
04-10-2004, 12:45 PM
Or a... regualr Iraqi!
There are pasty white red headed Iraqis. :roll:
tacticalmanta
04-10-2004, 01:03 PM
that explains the unusual weaponMhm... the PPSh submachinegun was made under Russian licence in Persia (now Iran) during the Second World War. It was adopted by Iranian army as AFAIR submachinegun Model 1322 (their calendar is shifted by 621 years, so this is Model 1943). After the war was still produced by in 9mm calibre.
621 years??? Not exactly, their calendar changes from year to year since they are using moon(~29) not the solar months... (In religion, since in real life they still use 12 month solar calendar...) So basically every 33 years they are one year closer to our callendar...
Islamic calendar
(Redirected from Muslim calendar)
The Islamic calendar is a purely lunar calendar of 12 months and a lunar year of usually 354 days. Each month can be either 29 or 30 days long. Because the lunar year is shorter than the solar year, Muslim holy days cycle backwards in relation to the purely solar Western calendar. This had given rise to a Western misperception. The Islamic lunar calendar is not inaccurate, because it is a pure lunar calendar.
The number of days in each month is not set. Rather, each month begins at sunset on the day of the first sighting of the lunar crescent following a new moon. Traditionally, this requires a sighting by a human observer, which was a motivation for the Islamic interest in astronomy that put Islam in the forefront of that science for many centuries. This practice is still followed in many parts of the world, like Pakistan and Jordan. In some countries like Malaysia and Indonesia, the process is simplified by beginning each month at sunset on the first day that the moon sets after the sun. In Egypt, the month begins at sunset on the first day that the moon sets at least five minutes after the sun. The official Umm al-Qura calendar of Saudi Arabia has recently changed. Before AH 1420, if the moon's age at sunset in Riyad was at least 12 hours, then the day ending at that sunset was the first day of the month. For AH 1420-22, if moonset occurred after sunset at Mecca, then the day beginning at that sunset was the first day of the month. Beginning AH 1423, if moonset occurs after sunset at Mecca and the geocentric conjunction of the sun and moon occurs before sunset, then the day beginning at that sunset will be the first day of the month. Astronomically, both moonset and sunset occur when the refracted upper limbs of the moon and sun reach the refracted horizon, that is, when their centers are 50 arcminutes below the geometric horizon, the horizon determined by a horizontal plane at sea level at the observer's location. These simplifications allow the calendar to be determined in advance, which it cannot be by the traditional method.
The Islamic year 1 is different.. he was adjusting from the year one.. Islam is roughly 600 years younger than Christianity.
Backis
04-10-2004, 02:35 PM
Mhm... the PPSh submachinegun was made under Russian licence in Persia (now Iran) during the Second World War. It was adopted by Iranian army as AFAIR submachinegun Model 1322 (their calendar is shifted by 621 years, so this is Model 1943). After the war was still produced by in 9mm calibre.
The PPSh was (well.. is apparently) also in use by the Iraqis, so no need to implicate the Iranians over this. ;)
If there is one thing to be sure of, that is that the mid-east is shock full of guns of just about all makes...
khukuri
04-10-2004, 03:18 PM
of the arab people, the lebanese are those who look most europian.
I havent seen the picture theres just an x nothing know, but judging from your comments
This is the most racist thread I've seen on this forum.
Just because he is blonde, it makes him a european.
Yes lebanese are the closest to looking like the white man, but syrians, palestinians, and iraqis are also blonde.
I can believe how narrow minded you people are....
moughoun
04-10-2004, 04:04 PM
That guy is whiter then I am and I'm Irish
Resevoir Hogs
04-10-2004, 05:26 PM
You all realise that there are a lot of legitimately white Iraqis. I know several that are whiter than me. Just think of the former RCC Vice Chairman Ibrahim Al-Duri. He had red hair?!
It probably has something to do with the British occupation in the early 20th century.
Dunno about that guy but I'm just saying there's a big minority of white Iraqis.
MaDuce
04-10-2004, 05:28 PM
How is it racist if some one is pale white they are prolly not natives of Nigeria.
How is it racist if some one is pale white they are prolly not natives of Nigeria.
But Iraq is nothing compared to nigeria.
And it has nothing to do with the british colonization. How did europeans become white and blonde, where they colonized by aliens?
Thats how they were born, maybe the roman occupation had something to do with it.
Parzival
04-10-2004, 06:08 PM
I think that guy looks like an american
Seoulstriker
04-10-2004, 06:28 PM
I think that guy looks like an american
that's what i was going to say earlier.
...or maybe he's just an Iraqi. :roll:
TALOS
04-10-2004, 07:25 PM
who the hell cares what he is, if he is a terrrorist or an insurgent he needs to be dealt with, but that is a nice gun ;)
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