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AFO
10-17-2006, 12:15 PM
What US Army units would have this badge
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The Badge I saw was olive green not Blue and the troops that were wearing them were in The new US digital camo (not sure of the correct term for it) and were riding on HUMVEE's this was in Scotland. Would it be special forces??? Have a wee video on my phone but not very good quality I am not going to post it due to security reasons.

Hellfish
10-17-2006, 12:23 PM
Special Operations Command

Twombly
10-17-2006, 12:32 PM
The new US digital camo (not sure of the correct term for it)
The term for it is ACU - Army Combat Uniform.

AFO
10-17-2006, 12:42 PM
Right special ops command am not to hot on American Spec ops units, am taking it thats like DELTA or along those lines????

AFO
10-17-2006, 12:49 PM
Special Operations Command

Right so that would be DELTA or along those line

Hellfish
10-17-2006, 12:54 PM
Green Berets, most likely, or their support staff.

AFO
10-17-2006, 01:28 PM
Oh right thats cool thanks for that

lifetimetd
10-17-2006, 01:39 PM
The one he posted isnt Special Operations Command...

Special operations command (USASOC) dosnt have the lightning bolts..and is red, unless subdued

The one he posted is simply army special forces (green berets)

Tally Man
10-17-2006, 02:01 PM
You are correct the badge that is posted is for not for the Army Spec Ops Command which I hate saying "Delta" falls under. The patch that is posted is for Special Forces any one even none tabbed that is assigned to the SF unit wears the patch cooks, clerks all the REMFs.

D-gin
10-17-2006, 02:06 PM
Army SOC Fort Bragg........

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2499/000socfortbragg1eb1.gif (http://imageshack.us)

From: www.ARMY.mil

Hellfish
10-17-2006, 02:09 PM
The one he posted isnt Special Operations Command...

Special operations command (USASOC) dosnt have the lightning bolts..and is red, unless subdued

The one he posted is simply army special forces (green berets)

D'oh, yeah. You're totally right. I should have known that.

theholeinthedonut
10-17-2006, 03:44 PM
Us Army Special Forces ( Support units don't wear the Special forces Insigna)
most probably from the 10th Group, European Detachment from Stuttgart.

medic99
10-17-2006, 04:10 PM
It may have changed but when I was in, NG SF support units did wear the SF patch on their BDU's. They did not wear the Long Tab unless authorized (Went to Q school and earned it) to wear it.

dutch508
10-17-2006, 04:22 PM
US Army Special Forces

dutch508
10-17-2006, 04:25 PM
It may have changed but when I was in, NG SF support units did wear the SF patch on their BDU's. They did not wear the Long Tab unless authorized (Went to Q school and earned it) to wear it.


You are still correct. The 'long tab' which reads SPECIAL FORCES is worn above this patch by Q'd soldiers of SF. I am seeing alot of former wartime service patches of this type of support personnel returning from OIF. When questioned the soldiers were assigned to USA-SF units in support roles.

rambone
10-17-2006, 04:32 PM
Its a special forces group patch, not the SOC patch

AFO
10-17-2006, 05:35 PM
I posted a blue one because I couldnt find an olive green one, If it helps they were riding on top of HUMVEES in new desert gear and the vehilcles were also painted for a sandy place which is very strange considering they road I saw them on is in the wettest place in Scotland!!!! I did also see two trucks one with a flat bed trailor with a sort of fence around the edge and a single tractor unit as well as a blacked out black people carrier.

oldsoak
10-17-2006, 06:03 PM
We trained Afghanistanis up in the highlands of Scotland in the 80's.

jeffe
10-17-2006, 06:22 PM
I've heard that some phase(s) of selection are now run in Scotland. The Brecon Beacons had become too crowded with sightseers etc. Occasionally USSF participate.

Tally Man
10-17-2006, 06:49 PM
You are still correct. The 'long tab' which reads SPECIAL FORCES is worn above this patch by Q'd soldiers of SF. I am seeing alot of former wartime service patches of this type of support personnel returning from OIF. When questioned the soldiers were assigned to USA-SF units in support roles.

Correct the patch represents the unit not the qualification most support staff wears the patch and a red airborne beret if they are airborne qualified.

One rule I have no tab no school, same with the 75th ranger scroll but none tab personal are in the unit.

D-gin
10-17-2006, 07:04 PM
Correct the patch represents the unit not the qualification most support staff wears the patch and a red airborne beret if they are airborne qualified.

One rule I have no tab no school, same with the 75th ranger scroll but none tab personal are in the unit.

this remind me of a photo I ran across a while back of a Chef who was stationed with the SF waring a red beret and the SF patch not a TAB, I'm going to see if I can dig it up.

Tally Man
10-17-2006, 08:00 PM
this remind me of a photo I ran across a while back of a Chef who was stationed with the SF waring a red beret and the SF patch not a TAB, I'm going to see if I can dig it up.


I would like to see that maybe in his cook whites!

Kind of like watching the band for the 82nd getting there jumps in, just looks so wrong!

bugkill
10-18-2006, 12:23 AM
ok, to all you guys who have no clue what you are talking about, allow me to educate you guys on the SF patch that i DO own. it is the special forces unit patch. yes, all personnel ASSIGNED, not attached can wear it. those who have been attached during a combat deployment can wear it as a SSI (shoulder sleeve insignia), but it makes no sense to me to see a "leg" soldier wearing an airborne unit combat patch (SF or conventional airborne forces) with no jump wings or ever being assigned to the unit.

i take issue with those of you who feel that the "support" soldiers do not do a damn thing while assigned to the unit and i'm here to tell you that you guys have no clue how much training we get while assigned to special forces. we get to do the shoot houses, fast roping, parachute ops (including HALO ops for those who are qualified), and numerous other things that the teams train us on. if you see a cook with a maroon beret (not red) and a SF patch on both sleeves, he is not your average cook because he has received quite a bit of training by special forces operators.

i was in the conventional army for over 8 yrs. and i did more shooting in my 2 yrs in group than i did my whole army career, which includes my time as an infantryman. i worked logistics in group, but i did far more than that when i went to SF. i got to do training that i thought i would never get to do and it was truly exciting to learn many things from some of the best trainers in the army.

also, alot of the pics on this website have SF support soldiers in them, but you really can't even tell the difference of who is who. our mechanics, intel, commo, and COOKS are with the A teams while forward deployed, so that REMF crap is a bunch of bull.

the green beret soldiers have their specific job to do and we have ours, but we all share the same mission. when i stood in formation at group, i had green berets sprinkled throughout the formation. i did not look up to them, i looked them dead in the eye because there was this mutual respect that came with the job. we had an important job to do and my job is just as critical as his, simple as that.

we operate as a team and no SF mission can happen without it's support element and any green beret will tell you that. they can't operate without support in maintenance, communications, service and support, and intelligence. you guys think that special operations forces are only reserved for the "shooters", but you are sadly mistaken. SOF personnel is attributed to all soldiers assigned to special operations, from the cook to the DELTA operator.

Creeper
10-18-2006, 12:46 AM
Excellant lines by "BUGKILL".
"Give em' some - yeah." LOL.

redhawk_six
10-18-2006, 01:02 AM
Us Army Special Forces ( Support units don't wear the Special forces Insigna)
most probably from the 10th Group, European Detachment from Stuttgart.

Dead Wrong! Read bugkill's post.
All Special Forces Support units wear the exact patch that was posted in the first post of this thread, that is the 'spearhead' patch with airborne tab (as support troops are airborne qualified).

The guys he saw were most likely Army SF Support.

AFO
10-18-2006, 08:22 AM
The guys I saw didnt have any head dress on only uniform with the badges on. So to put an end to it the troops I saw were either green berets or their support staff. Is there a name for this unit as in a number ???

Tally Man
10-18-2006, 05:17 PM
I would hate to reply since BugBoy might have a heart attack!

bugkill
10-18-2006, 08:19 PM
I would hate to reply since BugBoy might have a heart attack!

well, the name is bugkill and i will not have a heart attack over your opinion. what would you like to say? that the support soldiers in US special operations are not worth s#$t or that if you ain't got a tab (of any kind) then you most certainly have no skills?

you can't say a damn thing unless you have served in special operations and if you have not, you might want to do yourself a favor and not get your feelings hurt. you guys on this website worship the operators because you never served alongside them. all you have is pics or vids, but you don't have any experience with these guys. you don't have the slightest idea of what they do day to day. you don't know what it is like to tell a green beret that YOU want things done a certain way that concerns your area of expertise, and actually watch them do it. about 99% of you clowns on this website have no clue what it is really like in special forces.

yet, you post a dumb response about me having a heart attack over the opinion of someone who has NEVER served in spec ops. you talk about tabs and do you realize that there are support soldiers in ranger battalion that have earned it (ranger), while there are some infantry soldiers in regiment that have failed? we have several support soldiers in SF that have earned the ranger tab and guess what? who f#&kin' cares!

they still screw up like everyone else and so do SF operators. they are human beings and are ****e to make mistakes, just like the rest of the army. also, you may want to know that most SF personnel have come from the regular army and some operators wish they could get to see most of the action that the 82nd, 101st, and 3ID get to see in iraq.

well, i'm not going to waste anymore of my time speaking on this subject because i'm talking to people that cannot fathom the idea of actually serving with special forces. you all think that it's all glamorous and that they do all the cool stuff, all the time. well, they don't and some of you need to get off their ****s!