Putin jokes about Israeli president's *** scandal

[alexz]

By Henry Meyer

The Associated Press

MOSCOW – President Vladimir Putin made joking references to the ****** assault accusations against Israeli President Moshe Katsav during a meeting with the visiting Israeli prime minister in remarks that shocked longtime Kremlin-watchers.

A Kremlin spokesman said today that Putin's meaning had been lost in translation from Russian to English.

As Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert met with the Russian leader in an ornate reception room in the Kremlin on Wednesday, reporters overheard Putin tell him: "Say hello to your president. He really surprised us."

The microphones were then cut off, but a member of the Israeli delegation told The Associated Press that Putin went on to say of Katsav: "I met him. He didn't look like a guy who could be with 10 women."

The Israeli ambassador quipped, "It seems like he's envious of him," and Olmert told his host: "I wouldn't envy him," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak with the press.

Russia's Kommersant daily conveyed a more graphic version of the conversation, quoting Putin as saying: "He turns out to be a really powerful guy! He raped 10 women!" It also quoted Putin himself as saying "We all envy him."

Earlier this week, Israeli police recommended that Katsav be charged with rape, aggravated ****** assault and misconduct after women who once worked for him filed complaints. The 60-year-old has denied any wrongdoing but the scandal has rocked Israel and sparked calls for his resignation from the largely ceremonial post.

In its story on the Putin-Katsav meeting, Kommersant commented incredulously: "This was one of those moments when you just can't believe your ears."

Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung carried a brief item on Putin's comments at the bottom of page 6, under the headline "Quite a powerful man!"

The item started off with the quote and then mentioned a report by Izvestia, which noted that, while there is no strong women's movement in Russia that likely would issue a reaction, women were unlikely to agree with the sentiment.

In Belgium, the Brussels newspaper Het Laatste Niews ran a story under the headline "Putin jokes about *** scandal of Israeli president."

Deputy Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov explained away the exchange as a joke.

"In no way can (it) be considered as an approval of raping women or an appreciation of such a potential action," he told the AP.

"Sometimes translation from Russian into English does not reflect the essence of a joke. This was such a case," the Kremlin official said.

Putin has made coarse references before in some of his public remarks.

Early on in his presidency, Putin called for "wiping out Chechen rebels in the outhouse."

He once suggested that a French reporter who had posed an uncomfortable question about abuses against civilians in Chechnya should travel to Russia for a circumcision. "I would recommend that he who does the surgery does it so you'll have nothing growing back, afterward," Putin said.

In June, foreign news executives were taken aback when Putin hit back at a question about whether Russia would favor sanctions against Iran if it failed to stop enriching uranium.

"What if my grandmother had certain ****** attributes?" he snapped, dismissing the question as merely rhetorical. "Then she would be my grandfather."

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[Moledet]

Well, Olmert also made fun of the Russian football national team and he called Putin, plutin (I think it means scum in Russian).

[CruddyLeper]

It would be out of character for Putin to deliberately insult an emissary with his first greeting - spooks generally try to compliment strangers as a first resort.

On that basis, I think he meant it as a joke... which went down like a lead balloon.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

another case of open mouth, insert foot

[VPR]

Well, Olmert also made fun of the Russian football national team and he called Putin, plutin (I think it means scum in Russian).

no it doesnt, as far as I know, and russian is my main language, but I've never heard that word, unless he meant to use the root word "plut" which isnt even close to scum

[Moongazer]

A Kremlin spokesman said today that Putin's meaning had been lost in translation from Russian to English.
No, not like that. Meaning still the same.
Russian just can understand sarcasm without 'special explanations'.



but a member of the Israeli delegation told The Associated Press that Putin went on to say of Katsav: "I met him. He didn't look like a guy who could be with 10 women."
That would be usa-style. For russ-style it's too plain and feeble.



The Israeli ambassador quipped, "It seems like he's envious of him," and Olmert told his host: "I wouldn't envy him," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak with the press.

Russia's Kommersant daily conveyed a more graphic version of the conversation, quoting Putin as saying: "He turns out to be a really powerful guy! He raped 10 women!" It also quoted Putin himself as saying "We all envy him."
Oh yeah, this is real Putin!
Russian newspaper can quote original version without any worries - only complete dolt in Russia wouldn't see his famous nasty sarcasm.

You see, all those "***-scandals" like with Monica Levinski cause every russian choke from laughter and make specific gesture about those who making a row - http://www.israel-forum.org/images/smilies/2/stupid.gif.



In its story on the Putin-Katsav meeting, Kommersant commented incredulously: "This was one of those moments when you just can't believe your ears."
Can, can. Putin still got balls to ridicule idiocy.



The item started off with the quote and then mentioned a report by Izvestia, which noted that, while there is no strong women's movement in Russia that likely would issue a reaction, women were unlikely to agree with the sentiment.
So, that penwhore insulted russian women by branded them as idiots and feminists (which is almost the same).



Deputy Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov explained away the exchange as a joke.
Sarcasm, silly, sarcasm.



"In no way can (it) be considered as an approval of raping women or an appreciation of such a potential action," he told the AP.
It can be considered. By complete and utter blockhead.
Don't be so damn PC!



"Sometimes translation from Russian into English does not reflect the essence of a joke. This was such a case," the Kremlin official said.
The case is virus of politcorrectness first of all destroys those parts of brain which responsible for sarcasm. Russians are extremely lucky not to have that disease.



Early on in his presidency, Putin called for "wiping out Chechen rebels in the outhouse."
False.
He said literally: "If we'll meet them in a crap-house, we will soak them there!"
He was talking about terrorists who blow up two houses with people in Moscow right after that event.
'Soak' is a term of russian gangsters, or 'new russians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Russian)'. What it means, you're already know. :)



He once suggested that a French reporter who had posed an uncomfortable question about abuses against civilians in Chechnya should travel to Russia for a circumcision. "I would recommend that he who does the surgery does it so you'll have nothing growing back, afterward," Putin said.
He said "If you practice a radical islam, ...."
Pity he couldn't say to that cheap provoker to where he must go.



In June, foreign news executives were taken aback when Putin hit back at a question about whether Russia would favor sanctions against Iran if it failed to stop enriching uranium.

"What if my grandmother had certain ****** attributes?" he snapped, dismissing the question as merely rhetorical. "Then she would be my grandfather."
Good answer to demagogic question!

Another example of Putin sarcasm - "We don't need such 'democracy' like in Iraq!" (agry chattering of american puppets in Iraq skipped :))
One more example - "You are looking for WMD in Iraq way too long! If I were you, I'll already found something!"
Or "I really believe, Saddam Hussein is sitting right now in some secret bunker on a box with chemical weapons and dreaming about killing a lot of people!".

USA military men were really pissed by that remark! http://forum.emule-project.net/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif


Well, Olmert also made fun of the Russian football national team and he called Putin, plutin (I think it means scum in Russian).
LMD RTFM!!!
Plut - trickster (sly person).
http://www.multitran.ru/c/m.exe?HL=2&L1=1&L2=2&EXT=0&s=плут (http://www.multitran.ru/c/m.exe?HL=2&L1=1&L2=2&EXT=0&s=%D0%BF%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%82)


another case of open mouth, insert foot
No, another case of cunning Putin's sarcasm.

[Zarathustra]

He also made borderline comment about the circumcised wee wee of the chechens.

[Moongazer]

"Say hello to your president! He turned out to be very powerful macho! Raped ten women! I never expected from him! He has surprised all of us! All of us envy him!", - the special correspondent of "Businessman" Andrey Kolesnikov quotes the Russian president.

http://lenta.ru/news/2006/10/19/putin/

Putin, http://forum.emule-project.net/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif

[Moongazer]

He also made borderline comment about the circumcised wee wee of the chechens.
Can you quote him, pls?

[Zarathustra]

It was a long time ago. I'll look for that if you insist.

[Moongazer]

Yes, that would be interesting!

[themacedonian]

I think the WEST is really nostalgic about the Yeltsin style humour .....

remember how he was trying to balance him self while drunk and mumbling silly words.

That was hahahaha funny ..... Benny Hill style.

[Flamming_Python]

I'm really nostalgic for the times like when Yeltsin flew to Ireland, but got himself too drunk on the way to even get off the plane!

[Moledet]

no it doesnt, as far as I know, and russian is my main language, but I've never heard that word, unless he meant to use the root word "plut" which isnt even close to scum
Well, even if it doesn't, he still called him Plutin :D

[Digimon]

Well, even if it doesn't, he still called him Plutin :D

Plut is a cheat.

[snyder]

Can you quote him, pls?

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1262252002

[Zarathustra]

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1262252002

Thanks friend.

[Moongazer]

I think the WEST is really nostalgic about the Yeltsin style humour .....

remember how he was trying to balance him self while drunk and mumbling silly words.

That was hahahaha funny ..... Benny Hill style.
"That was haha funny", yes.
That drunk scumbag sold and gave up to WEST everything while playing ass-clown.
I agree that was kinda funny, but not for russians.

[Moongazer]

I'm really nostalgic for the times like when Yeltsin flew to Ireland, but got himself too drunk on the way to even get off the plane!
Eye-witnesses said he was running in the plane on all fours and vomiting.
That's a proper way to act for a western puppet and whore.

[Moongazer]

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1262252002
Ah, you mean that? I heard that, of course. But he didn't said it about chechen's pee wee. :)


A reporter for the French newspaper, Le Monde, had asked him about reports that Russia used heavy weapons against Chechen civilians. Ah, what a question!
Did you ever heard name Yermolaev?
It's a famous russian general who fought chechens when Russia was still an empire. And that guy found understanding with chechens. Really. Wanna ask how? If somebody from chechen aul (village) shot a russian soldier, the whole aul was waporized by cannon barrage. You said that's cruel? You absolutely clueless, that's by chechen laws (adats). By them, the whole clan is responsible for actions of their member. So, it's the only language they can understand. I'll give you one more example. If group of young chechens gang rape a girl, what will happen? If that girl is russian - absolutely nothing. Why? Because she is not from any clan, silly! Russians in Chechnya are absolutely defenceless. And if that girl is chechen, all youngsters will be beheaded in one day (literally!!!) and their family will be subject for long, bloody, ruthless chechen vendetta. Such is Law of Wolf (chechen jackals are always calling themself wolves).

One little stroke to picture - before first cheсhen war, after Chechnya become an independed nation, almost all russians fleed from Chechnya for their lives. And many chechens were not happy about that - they daub a huge motto on the railstation in Grozny - "Russians, don't leave! We need slaves and prostitutes!".

[Doublethinker]

shot a russian soldier, the whole aul was waporized by cannon barrage. You said that's cruel? You absolutely clueless, that's by chechen laws (adats). By them, the whole clan is responsible for actions of their member. So, it's the only language they can understand. .

Oh yes, Hitler had very similar thoughts concerning occupation policy in the East.

[DIU]

Oh yes, Hitler had very similar thoughts concerning occupation policy in the East.
Hitler belongs to quite another epoch.
The correct general’s name is Ermolov - http://www.100megsfree4.com/rusgeneral/ermolov.htm

[Doublethinker]

Hitler belongs to quite another epoch.
The correct general’s name is Ermolov - http://www.100megsfree4.com/rusgeneral/ermolov.htm

While you are quite right and Ermolov does belong to a different epoch, you don't really address my post. Employing such means of war conduct with such a rationale behind them now would put a country leader at the same level with Hitler.

I wasn't critisizing Ermolov himself (though I disapprove of such actions too) rather then the proponents of his ideas today like one of the forum members who has posted above.

[Moongazer]

Doublethinker (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=20226), did you read what I wrote above about chechens? Either not, or you got a tolerastic sh1t for a brain.

By the way, are you an american? If so, remember about Vietnam and pls shut the f... up.

[Alan]

Moongazer is right, and it's not just Chechnya.

Listen to me o westerners. In the caucassus, you can throw the softie rules out the window. In there, say someone kills someone. The next day, the murderer's family will dissapear.

That is ADAT.

That is the caucassus.

Forget Russians, forget them, this isn't about them, it's about a rule book written eight thousand years ago that will never change.

EVER!

All the russians did was play by our rules. You can't win on the caucassus without mass killing, everyone there knows that.

The Chechen are just using the west's naievete to act like hurt puppies.

[Moongazer]

Hitler belongs to quite another epoch.
The correct general’s name is Ermolov - http://www.100megsfree4.com/rusgeneral/ermolov.htm
Oh yes, thanx for correction.
And don't waste your time arguing with liberast.

P.S. Oh yes, he mentioned Hitler! Do you know, All, during the war ALL CHECHENS JOINED HITLER voluntarily as one and send him a presents? And when RKKA (red army) abandoned Chechnya they massmurder almost all remaining russians? And do you know HOW they did it? It was fun for them to gut living man like a fish and decorate fence with his guts while he's still alive. Girls and women was first raped, then their breasts cut off and thrown to dogs, then they were slayed.

So, soft brain of modern european cannot even imagine natural chechen cruelity.
Even amongst caucasians chechens are on the special account!

[Moongazer]

The Chechen are just using the west's naievete to act like hurt puppies.
By the way, they learned that role perfectly. No russian can be that pitful. And in the same time chechens deeply despise those people who are buying their BS.

P.S. I almost forgot - when vets from Chechnya hear "Chechen civilians" they sneer - it's an oxymoron. :)

[Doublethinker]

Doublethinker (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=20226), did you read what I wrote above about chechens? Either not, or you got a tolerastic sh1t for a brain.

By the way, are you an american? If so, remember about Vietnam and pls shut the f... up.

I've not only read, I've heard what you've written above millions of times. And this is is all bull crap which has lead Russia to the state its currently in.

I'm not an American, I'm Russian. So shut the f_ck up yourself.

[Doublethinker]

Oh yes, thanx for correction.
And don't waste your time arguing with liberast.

P.S. Oh yes, he mentioned Hitler! Do you know, All, during the war ALL CHECHENS JOINED HITLER voluntarily as one and send him a presents? And when RKKA (red army) abandoned Chechnya they massmurder almost all remaining russians?


You are pathetic.
1. Germans never captured Chechnya. Therefore they never even had the chance to "join Hitler en masse".
2. Some chechens worked for Hitler like tens of thousands of Russians. Others died valiantly fighting in the Brest fortress.

[Moongazer]

So, Doublethinker (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=20226), you are Antifa? Just as I thought! :lol:
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/52787501/5976251

[Moongazer]

2. Some chechens worked for Hitler like tens of thousands of Russians. Others died valiantly fighting in the Brest fortress.
'Others' - you mean all chechens who wasn't working for Hitler?
Ok, if you're Russian (although I highly doubt that) maybe you can read this?

http://www.chechen.org/content.php?catID=7&content=252

About 20 chechen soldiers were fighting in Brest and near, only 3 become heroes.

So, you're trying to say, 20 chechens were fighting for USSR, and all others were fighting for Hitler? Not bad. :)


Звание Героя Советского Союза за подвиги в Великой Отечественной войне получили шестеро чеченцев: Ханпаша Нурадилов, Хансултан Дачиев, Абухажи Идрисов, Хаваджи Магомед-Мерзоев, Ирбайхан Бейбулатов, Мовлид Висаитов (последнему утвердили звание Героя Советского Союза значительное время спустя после войны и после смерти самого героя).
http://www.voinenet.ru/index.php?aid=2376
Translation: During WWII only SIX chechens became 'Hero of USSR'.
So much for hero nation.

As Cat Behemoth said, congratulatulations, Mr. Liar! rofl

And about "Nazi never captured Chechnya":

А потом была Великая Отечественная. Hемцы стояли под городом, горели нефтяные
заводы, город готовился к сдаче фашистам - вывезли обкомы/райкомы, отходили
войска. И когда в городе осталось в основном гражданское население - был бунт.
Варфоломеевская ночь, Hочь Длинных Hожей. Русских резали как овец, убивали со
всей азиатской жестокосьтю. Представить ты себе такое не сумеешь, не пытайся.
Смог ли бы ты представиьт себе что можно сделать с человеческими кишками, после
того, как оному человеку вспороли живот и вытащили оные кишки наружу? Ими можно
украсить забор дома. Как гирляндой. Это очень смешно, кстати. А изнасилованной
бабе, если еще жива, можно подарить благодарность тем самым кинжалом, которым
только что резали ее детей. Это еще забавнее - все просто ухохатываются.

Hемцев все же как-то отбили, в город вернулись войска - тоже крови пролилось
немало. Еще бы! Именно тогда и именно по причине этого бунта было приняло
решение о переселеннии чеченцев подальше от линии фронта - за Каспий. Во
избежание подобных инцендентов эту пятую колонну погрузили и переправили - тоже
крови пролилось, думаю понимаешь. Вывозили-то силой.
And read this, personally for you and your kind:

Дальнейшее ты видел сам. Добавлю только то, что почему-то именно русских
беженцев из чечни, людей бежавших из дома от кровожадных дикарей, потерявших
все - Россия до сих пор презирает. Где лагеря для _русских_ беженцев? Hу где?!
Я знаю стариков, которые убежав из чечни вернулись обратно - они предпочти
ждать смерти от ножа на своей родной земле, чем подыхать на вокзалах вместе с
бомжами!
Hикто не помог русским, никто. Пинали, плевали, поливали грязью - никто нам не
помог ни словом ни делом. Hо за защиту этих грязных скотов
гуманитарики-демократики встали горой, суки позорные, иуды... Демонстрации
устраивали "руки прочь от чечни". Как я желал им всем очутиться там, среди
вайнахов - хлебнуть рабской доли для прояснения в мозгах! http://groups.google.com/group/fido7.su.pol/msg/1562542cdcb32fd0?fwc=1




And read this, another memoirs of russians from Grozny about 1991 and after.
http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/20/80672.html
http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/20/80785.html

And this is for your self-education.
What chechens are and why Stalin deported them.
http://stalinism.newmail.ru/narod/chechen.htm (http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/102330)

Pity I can't translate it for everybody on this forum.

[asch]

So, Doublethinker (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=20226), you are Antifa? Just as I thought! :lol:
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/52787501/5976251
and something wrong with that?
i prefer to see antifa guys on the streets than silly debiloid nazi-skins.

[Flamming_Python]

So, Doublethinker (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=20226), you are Antifa? Just as I thought! :lol:
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/52787501/5976251

Nothing wrong with being proud of your country. Plenty of things wrong with being a fascist punk.

[Moongazer]

and something wrong with that?
i prefer to see antifa guys on the streets than silly debiloid nazi-skins.
Oh really? :)
http://www.kuban.ru/forum_new/forum21/files/33947.html



Мне, как русскому, всё равно, из каких соображений в русских людей кидают взрывпакеты - из фашистских или антифашистских. И если сейчас история повернулась так, что фашисты за русских, а антифашисты против русских, то надо быть фашистом, да.
Хотя и очень не хочется. Фашизм, всё-таки.
А что делать? "Через немогу". http://www.livejournal.com/users/krylov/1198933.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/krylov/1230596.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/krylov/1253010.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/krylov/1253321.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/krylov/1254237.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/krylov/1254681.html
http://krylov.livejournal.com/1305484.html
http://krylov.livejournal.com/1307763.html
http://krylov.livejournal.com/1328645.html

Such people Krylov very neatly calling blyadvo.

[Moongazer]

Nothing wrong with being proud of your country. Plenty of things wrong with being a fascist punk.
(patiently) Russian don't have right to be proud of his nation or country. Russian don't have right to have dignity or self-esteem. Russian don't have right to say "Russia for russians". All of that is indubitable sign of horrible Russian Fossssscizm!!!

Every Antifa will gladly explain you that.

Horrible face of Russian Fosssscizm is here -
http://jamso.livejournal.com/6787.html

[CPL Trevoga]

How did this thread turned from Isralie rapist to Chechens?

[asch]

Russian don't have right to have dignity or self-esteem. Russian don't have right to say "Russia for russians".
just another idiot mixing apples with oranges. huh. his grandparents would be proud of him.

[Moongazer]

How did this thread turned from Isralie rapist to Chechens?
This thread about Putin, BTW.


just another idiot mixing apples with oranges. huh. his grandparents would be proud of him.
Are you trying to say something clever? http://fool.exler.ru/sm/thk.gif
Nice try, antifa.

[Alan]

My addition to the thread...

-clears throat-

I like big butts and I can not lie
Other mountain goats can't deny

When a girl walks in ....

There.

[asch]

Are you trying to say something clever? http://fool.exler.ru/sm/thk.gif
Nice try, antifa.
try to understand, young one. all this skinhead games is for stupid teenagers who have too much time on their hands. and too little wisdom. when you grow up a little, you understand that you wasting your life on such shyte. so you can label me "antifa" which i don't, i don't give a fvck.

[Doublethinker]

So, Doublethinker (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=20226), you are Antifa? Just as I thought! :lol:
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/52787501/5976251

no, I'm not. I'm a nationalist myself. But the one with brains.

[Alan]

So... how is your attitude towards people of caucassian descent?

[Moongazer]

try to understand, young one.
Good beginning.
Right now I celebrate my 32-th b-day, you can congratulate me.


all this skinhead games is for stupid teenagers who have too much time on their hands. and too little wisdom.
He-he-he.
Say frankly, skinheads are "youngsters from labor blocks" with their brains in the ass, no job, no future, no Internal Rod. Fact. I perfectly understand that fact.

And what you and other "antifa" cannot understand is that those skins are merely a splashes of national movement. Extremists. Minority. But antifa and all other blyadva turned them into real scarecrow. "All nationalists are skins! They want to kill all Sacred Tajikistan Girls™ and made a horrible pogroms! They chant "Russia is for russians" - that mean they love Hitler!" You scream that BS so long you really begin to believe it.

Skins are bydlo, cattle, but they are sign that national patience is coming to an end. Propaganda of toleranсe to caucasian killers, rapers, gangsters and perverts is begin to cause an opposite effect. There was no skins in Kondopoga. People just lost patience at last. Russians not tolerable enough to let beastoids slay them quietly.


when you grow up a little, you understand that you wasting your life on such shyte. so you can label me "antifa" which i don't, i don't give a fvck.
Even if you not Antifa, your mentality is suscipiosly close to them.
Vale!


no, I'm not. I'm a nationalist myself. But the one with brains.
Nationalist with brains who love chechens?
Or maybe you're chechen nationalist? Then I understand.


So... how is your attitude towards people of caucassian descent?
Different.
You need to read the memoirs of alpinist girl. She clearly described where in Caucassus living noble, fair people and where is beastoids, who are ready to rob, rape, kill travellers only because (s)he is not from their aul.
Read it here - Human Factor (http://warrax.net/78/factor.html).

[koozya]

relax guys plz. for me let russians be in russia, and the chehcens(zverki) in their stinky **** hole (cause i keep hearing how they love their goatland) and close the boarder. any one comes close to it shoot the f@cker.

[Moongazer]

relax guys plz. for me let russians be in russia, and the chehcens(zverki) in their stinky **** hole.
It's a dream, muzhik. Unrealizable dream.
Right now in Russia more beastoids than in Chechnya.

[asch]

Russians not tolerable enough to let beastoids slay them quietly. do you, please, define difference between you and your "beastoids"?

Say frankly, skinheads are "youngsters from labor blocks" with their brains in the ass, no job, no future, no Internal Rod. Fact. I perfectly understand that fact.

And what you and other "antifa" cannot understand is that those skins are merely a splashes of national movement. Extremists. Minority. But antifa and all other blyadva turned them into real scarecrow. "All nationalists are skins! They want to kill all Sacred Tajikistan Girls™ and made a horrible pogroms! They chant "Russia is for russians" - that mean they love Hitler!" You scream that BS so long you really begin to believe it.

Skins are bydlo, cattle, but they are sign that national patience is coming to an end. Propaganda of toleranсe to caucasian killers, rapers, gangsters and perverts is begin to cause an opposite effect. simplification often used as arguement if there is no reliable facts to back one statement.
i am nationalist enough but i'm not allow myself to slide into extreme side (i.e. nazi).

Right now I celebrate my 32-th b-day, you can congratulate me. aha, sure, cheers.
your pretty naive alignment just shows that adult=/=maturity.

[Moongazer]

do you, please, define difference between you and your "beastoids"?
simplification often used as arguement if there is no reliable facts to back one statement.
i am nationalist enough but i'm not allow myself to slide into extreme side (i.e. nazi).
aha, sure, cheers.
your pretty naive alignment just shows that adult=/=maturity.

Son, you messages to me got very bad signal/noise proportion. It seems you're not even trying to read what I'm writing.
And remember, I'm not taking any sides, especially nazi.
Don't confuse me with Warrax and company.

[asch]

Son, you messages to me got very bad signal/noise proportion. It seems you're not even trying to read what I'm writing.
And remember, I'm not taking any sides, especially nazi.
Don't confuse me with Warrax and company.
some of your statements are clearly nazist. but you not a nazi? suuuuure...

[Mr.K]

So far you're just a pizdbol. If not, you will at best will be beaten up or worst end up in a zona.
I have a friend who was on his nationalist trip here (Canada), he distributed propaganda in metro stations, got his skull opened by a billiard ball in a sock, has various striches, had to change his locks at home, got banned from several bars, had to give money for his "brothers" doing long sentences. He fought antifas and drug dealers in subways.
Now he kinda regrets it, he has a guilty concience knowing that he might have killed or severly hurt someone, and can't look like a "nice guy no more"
Luckly for him he quit that BS before being arrested and jailed for hate crimes.
Now instead he switched to powerlifting and is going back to university this winter. He wants a job and a family and kids.

I can agree that things cannot remain the way they are, after all my people is getting screwed,and i can laugh at Zhirinovsky adding "true,true", but putting families in gazenwagens is sommething that i can't accept. The soviet system produced a lot of individuals of various ethnic backgrounds that are in no way nationalists, and were brought up in the same way that you and I were (even if we're from different generations), why should these people suffer?

[Moongazer]

some of your statements are clearly nazist
Such as? Go ahead, clown, answer for your words!

[Moongazer]

So far you're just a pizdbol. If not, you will at best will be beaten up or worst end up in a zona.
I have a friend who was on his nationalist trip here (Canada), he distributed propaganda in metro stations, got his skull opened by a billiard ball in a sock, has various striches, had to change his locks at home, got banned from several bars, had to give money for his "brothers" doing long sentences. He fought antifas and drug dealers in subways.
Now he kinda regrets it, he has a guilty concience knowing that he might have killed or severly hurt someone, and can't look like a "nice guy no more"
Luckly for him he quit that BS before being arrested and jailed for hate crimes.
Now instead he switched to powerlifting and is going back to university this winter. He wants a job and a family and kids.
Ah, what a touching story...
"Uncle, who are you just talked to?" (c) anekdot http://megasmile.chat.ru/pics/lol-001.gif



I can agree that things cannot remain the way they are, after all my people is getting screwed,and i can laugh at Zhirinovsky adding "true,true", but putting families in gazenwagens is sommething that i can't accept.
Gazenwagens are oblolete long ago.
Now Bioreactor is in fashion.
Please, go there - http://antigreen.org/bioreactor/
This is for you and all your friends.

P.S.
He fought antifas and drug dealers in subways.
What a horrible hate crime.
Diagnosis: tolerast.
Dismissed!

[Flamming_Python]

I am a patriot (someone who loves his Rodina). Far as I am concerned, anyone of any ethinticity or background who speaks Russian, considers himself Russian and is willing to intergrate into the Russian culture and way of life, is a Russian.

I am not a nationalist (someone who considers his country better than all the others). This thread is bull****, and only brings and fosters the divides that are threatening to rip the Russian Federation (multi-ethnic entity) apart.

What you seem to forget, is that many people's also share our country with us. Their homeland is in our nation (e.g. like Alan from Ossetia, or people from Tatarstan, Buryatia, etc...), so in those cases we shouldn't try forcing anything (especially divisive nationalism), but promote the unity of our nation as we will be stronger together.

[asch]

...Russians not tolerable enough to let beastoids...
Diagnosis: nazi.
Dismissed.

[Moongazer]

I am a patriot (someone who loves his Rodina). Far as I am concerned, anyone of any ethinticity or background who speaks Russian, considers himself Russian and is willing to intergrate into the Russian culture and way of life, is a Russian.
Exactly!!!
Nation is not "earth and blood", it's mentality+culture+language.
Remember Dal' definition? "The one who think in russian..."!
For example, Sholademi (http://sholademi.livejournal.com/) is definetly a russian. ;)



I am not a nationalist (someone who considers his country better than all the others).
You grease all my impression. LMD, RTFM.
Read the definition of 'nationalism', before descredit yourself. Don't confuse it with chauvinism.



This thread is bull****, and only brings and fosters the divides that are threatening to rip the Russian Federation (multi-ethnic entity) apart.
Yes, RF is multi-ethnic entity. With russian ethnos as cementing, merging factor. And russian language as common and universal for everybody.

But what all of it have to do with zero tolerance to caucasian orcs?



What you seem to forget, is that many people's also share our country with us.
I never forget that. :)


Their homeland is in our nation (e.g. like Alan from Ossetia, or people from Tatarstan, Buryatia,
Man, who are you explaining to all this?
I lived in Tatarstan many years, and I consider tatars one of the most "russian" nation! :)
And about Osetia - read my links again, especially "Human Factor"!



etc...), so in those cases we shouldn't try forcing anything (especially divisive nationalism), but promote the unity of our nation as we will be stronger together.
Aha, I know what is Ittifak, TOC, Bairamova, etc...

But I don't get it - I was talking about chechen crimes, and you are about small civilized nations inside RF?
In my garden is elder, but in Kiev uncle?

[Moongazer]

Diagnosis: nazi.
Dismissed.
2All: What a charming example of russian politcorrectness!
Or, better say, liberastia (http://www.livejournal.com/users/darkhon/16636.html)?

For everybody who not in the topic: in Kondopoga big gang of young chechens with knives and metal sticks attacked irrelevant citizen in cafe with screams "Slay the russian pigs!" after some punk beat up the barmen. Two man were killed on the spot, many other were maimed. After that citizens of Kondopoga who already was sick and tired with usual chechens savagery behavior raise and burn up that chechen cafe and many other chechen property. No chechen was killed or wounded. I repeat: no chechen was killed or wounded! So much for famous "russian mutiny, ruthless and meaningless".

http://www.oper.ru/news/print.php?t=1051601833

And to call those creatures "beastoids" is the horrible russki foshizm!

Show some tolerance, russian pigs!

P.S. Another case of russian intolerance:
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/106218
This was much, much worse than in Kondopoga. Russian pigs didn't protest and demonstrate but took AK-74 instead.
In other words, this match went not in favor of caucazoids.


P.P.S.

Но хотелось бы знать: а сколько русских в ходе этнических чисток вынуждены были бросить квартиры, десятилетиями нажитое имущество, и бежать от нацистов, спасая свои жизни? Этим русским кто-нибудь оказывал помощь, встречал, селил в лагеря для беженцев? Оказывали хотя бы психологическую помощь? Сколько русских не смогло убежать? Сколько русских ограбили, изнасиловали? Сколько русских убили? Сколько русских продали в рабство? Сколько русских держат в рабстве до сих пор?

[...]

Во всём этом есть один интересный момент. Если нацисты выступают в Москве с лозунгом «Россия – для русских!», деятели отечественной культуры немедленно поднимают дикий вой: русский фашизм поднимает голову!!! Боже мой, что же это такое творится, да как такое вообще возможно!!!

Но если нацисты разевают пасть в Грузии, в Прибалтике, на Украине – в ответ полная тишина. Если этнические чистки идут в Таджикистане и Чечне – никому дела нет. Никаких криков, никакого недовольства – так называемую элиту это не касается. И уж само собой это никак не касается деятелей тамошних культур. Потому что всех русских надо взашей гнать в Россию, там их место, это ведь очевидно любому национально мыслящему деятелю культуры. http://oper.ru/news/print.php?t=1051601882

Those people, like asch and Doublethinker are worse than nazi. They are vlasovcy. 5th column. Nazi lackeys and supporters.
Whores (http://krylov.livejournal.com/1350549.html).

[koozya]

I am a patriot (someone who loves his Rodina). Far as I am concerned, anyone of any ethinticity or background who speaks Russian, considers himself Russian and is willing to intergrate into the Russian culture and way of life, is a Russian.


i completly agree with u on this, but the problem is that the most of them ( i am not saying all) are not willing to integrate into Russian culture and way of life, they still continue to live by their laws and define ours.:|

[Moongazer]

koozya (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=16703), that's bad, but that's not worst.
I was talking about people (if they can be called that) who are sure they can insult, humiliate, rape, rob, murder "russian pigs" and get away with it because the authorities and cops are on their side (bribed or scared). They are true nazi, occupants. And if someone fight back or simply protest, whores (blyadvo) begin their heart-rending scream about "russki foshizm".

Examples of that right in this thread before you eyes.


P.S. I gave above links on memoirs of those who lived in Chechnya before 1991 and after Chechnya became de-facto independed barely escaped from the paws of blackbeasts. Read them, they fully described morals, habits and behavior of those creatures. Especially how are they acting when they sure of their impunity. After that, read "Human Factor" (link above, too). Any more questions why I call them beastoids? Why Putin called them monsters?

[Flamming_Python]

I think that this is one of those rare times where Russia can actually learn something from America.

They have a similar system, which promotes being "American" despite your background, and it seems to work. Russia has also had the same sort of system for hundreds of years (assimilation), but while it worked in the big cities, in the other areas it lead to pogroms and killings against many who refused to adapt (i.e. convert to Christianity). It lead to the exile of the whole of the jewish population of Russia to the pale of settlement. It lead to the justification of killings in Central Asia and the Caucaus.

While national unity should be promoted, it's no excuse for racism, fascism, killings or xenophobia against other people who don't feel as Russian as some of us. They should be intergrated, not beaten up. The flag should be raised, not bashed against their heads. This wave of nationalism can very easily get out of control (and already has in the form of skinheads), and will end up alienating the very same people we wish to bring closer to us. Not only that, but it may encourage seperatism.

You speak against the Chechens, but most of them didn't go out and slaughter Russians at the first oppurtunity in '91. As far as I know, most of them supported the Russian army when it entered Chechnya in '94 to stop the killings and bring the region back under Russian control. But of course this support quickly turned to hatred when a lot of those Russian units started to do a lot of dastardly things of their own (denying it is an excersise in futility). So really I can see why there is such trouble, but killing them back will only sweep the whole nation back 15 years in time and create the possibilities of even more Chechnya's

[koozya]

koozya (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=16703), that's bad, but that's not worst.
I was talking about people (if they can be called that) who are sure they can insult, humiliate, rape, rob, murder "russian pigs" and get away with it because the authorities and cops are on their side (bribed or scared). They are true nazi, occupants. And if someone fight back or simply protest, whores (blyadvo) begin their heart-rending scream about "russki foshizm".


oh trust me man i know a lot of info about them, watched many many videos, pic, personal accounts about these (the only way i call them ) zver'kov. and i hate them as much as any veterans from the Chech wars.
And PS. I am quite sick of this POLITICAL CORRECTNESS **** , which is so popular today.

[Flamming_Python]

BTW, there are quite a few caucausians on this site. From what I gather, all of them have their own identity, but consider themselves Russian at the same time, and always stand up for the country when it is being flamed here. So there is no need to generalise with your "caucasian orcs".

If you are so scared of the "horde" emigrating to the big Russian cities, then perhaps it's time for Russia to invest into its caucasian republics so more of them will have oppurtunities there.

[Moongazer]

Flamming_Python, I understand you. American's system of 'melting pot' and utter destruction of national features is not for Russia. In USSR every nation has it's own territory (even jews :)), schools with teching on national language, full support of national culture from the state. So in the same time originallity and culture of every nation was preserved AND the new nation begin to emerge - SOVIET nation. This is the best way for Russia.

And when you wrote about "pogroms" and forcible spreading of Christianity don't forget a details - when, where, why. I have a strong impression you talking about czar epoch. :)

Soviets has complete different national policy, which provided all rights and equality to even the most retarded nation, such as chechens.

This wave of nationalism is consequence of irresponsible national policy of post-soviet govt and huge inrush of caucasian emigrants who often not only want to live by "law of mountains", but force everybody around to. And because they are united into formidable criminal-ethnic groups and diasporas and always covering up their members who commit any crimes, they can be rated as serious threat to national stability and security. But every time this issue is raised, 5th column begin to jam it buy screaming about "russian foscizm" and "tolerance", and by chanting mantra "criminals-has-no-nationality". And this is the real problem.

So I think you're not understanding my postings completely or trying to change topic deliberately.

Yes, "most of them didn't go out and slaughter Russians at the first oppurtunity in '91". They merely was quiet and passive when the most active chechens conduct policy of ethnic purges and genocide. Like that old woman in the train (in memoirs). I think that's enough.

"Most of them supported the Russian army when it entered Chechnya" - I highly doubt that. Can you provide me with some facts (and please not from kavkaz.morgue!)?

"this support quickly turned to hatred when a lot of those Russian units started to do a lot of dastardly things of their own" - perhaps they thought rissian army is a bunch of angels? I was told that if soldiers found a zindan in the house of "chechen civilian", they slay him and blow up his house. If not - ok, you may live for a while.

It's a war, not an Olympic games. And that war was for a good cause - for saving Russia from huge terrorist&bandit enclave.

Anyway, general brutality in that war is beyong the most wildest imagination of "civilized man" who like to be judge before TV-set.

Read this for better understanding - http://artofwar.ru/m/mironow_w_n/text_0010.shtml

And russian soldiers was quickly tired to turn another cheek. And I really can't understand why chechens have a right to complain.

"but killing them back will only sweep the whole nation back 15 years in time" - oh really. We already got the solution. And his author is Stalin.
Chechens understand only chechen language. If you are filled with humanism, spend some time in zindan, it will help you a lot.


Too bad Lilliputin is not a Stalin.


oh trust me man i know a lot of info about them, watched many many videos, pic, personal accounts about these (the only way i call them ) zver'kov. and i hate them as much as any veterans from the Chech wars.
And PS. I am quite sick of this POLITICAL CORRECTNESS **** , which is so popular today.
Oh muzhik, I really glad to hear that. And remember, PC is a weapon of 5th column!

P.S. You calling them "zver'ki"? So you're nazi, too! Join the club! http://forum.emule-project.net/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif

[Moongazer]

BTW, there are quite a few caucausians on this site. From what I gather, all of them have their own identity, but consider themselves Russian at the same time, and always stand up for the country when it is being flamed here. So there is no need to generalise with your "caucasian orcs".
I'm already wrote above I can see difference between caucasian humans and caucasuan orcs! Example of first - osetins. Second - chechens. Read my messages more industriously, not by diagonal, ok? Keywords: "Human Factor"!



If you are so scared of the "horde" emigrating to the big Russian cities, then perhaps it's time for Russia to invest into its caucasian republics so more of them will have oppurtunities there.

I really have nothing to answer to this marasmus senilis.
But maybe I notice, better to spend russian money for russians?
Such a nazi thoughts I have!

By the way, as you already know, Chechnya became financial black hole, swallowing billions. Such a paradox - victor paying contributions to beaten! Many russians who escaped Chechnya nestle in basement and beg for money in clerk offices. And chechens on the other hand have no problems with moneys at all.

[Flamming_Python]

I'm a communist BTW.

I agree that a system that incorporates many aspects of the USSR would be the best way forward, but the most progress foward in the USSR was made under leaders like Krushchev. Stalin got a lot done sure in terms of industrialisation, but he slaughtered people who were even CAPABLE of opposing him (much less those who actually opposed him).

Once again, what you're missing is that the reason why many of the peoples of the Soviet Union defected to the Nazi's is because of Stalin himself, not because of their inherent hate for the Russian or Soviet cultures (most people would accept something that would give them higher living standards, and oppose that which doesn't). He oppressed and burnt down many churches, destroyed cultures, and therefore many ethnic groups saw the German invasion as an oppurtunity to rid themselves of Stalin's rule.

Therefore, if you are speaking about the Chechens help to the Nazis, then don't forget the Cossacks, Western Ukrainians, Kalmyks and quite a few other peoples, many of whom were deported to Siberia and Central Asia, even if it was only an active minority that has helping the Germans. By a similar token, Stalin was also afraid of a few Japanese spies in the Russian Far East (Vladivostok was at that time 30% asian), so he deported the entire Soviet Korean population (half a million) of that area to Central Asia.

As for the sources you ask for, I don't have them. But like I said, I only heard it, so I don't know for sure whether it's true or not. But it is clear that even the majority of the Chechens suffered under the Warlords (Dudaev and co.) rule, so there is no reason not to believe it. Instead a proper understanding should be developed about why it is such a mess, and by that means the right policies required to correct these problems will become more apparent.

No-one is denying that the Caucaus is a ****ed up place, with many ****ed up people. What I oppose is the generalisation and simplifications of the facts, which would enable Russian people just as ****ed up to say "Kill them all" and then justify it.



By the way, as you already know, Chechnya became financial black hole, swallowing billions. Such a paradox - victor paying contributions to beaten! Many russians who escaped Chechnya nestle in basement and beg for money in clerk offices. And chechens on the other hand have no problems with moneys at all.

Yeah, but as the region is developing, the militantcy is decreasing. Of course it may all flare up again the next time Russia has a breakdown, or when Kadyrov decides the Kremlin is controlling him too much, but for now it should be developed and cultural values introduced, so as to minimise the impact next time. A "dictatorship of law" as Putin said, will go a long way in preventing hate crimes by any ethinticity (Russians, Chechens, whatever). For now though, not too bad:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=393612



Yes, "most of them didn't go out and slaughter Russians at the first oppurtunity in '91". They merely was quiet and passive when the most active chechens conduct policy of ethnic purges and genocide. Like that old woman in the train (in memoirs). I think that's enough.


An assumption I see? Again, from what I know, many Chechens did speak up about it, and were killed or driven out just as quickly as the Slavs, Jews, and anyone else who didn't quite fit in. You might as well say, why didn't the Germans speak up about Hitler? Many did, but at the end they realised it was futile. Yet you don't go preaching hate about the Germans now do you?

In a place of no law, the most brutal and determined ones always control everyone else.

[Mr.K]

Ah, what a touching story...
"Uncle, who are you just talked to?" (c) anekdot http://megasmile.chat.ru/pics/lol-001.gif
Nothing touching, just someone's story who been there and done that, and finally thinks for himself, it was for you my little internet pizdbol but you're too thickheaded.



Gazenwagens are oblolete long ago.
Now Bioreactor is in fashion.
Please, go there - http://antigreen.org/bioreactor/
This is for you and all your friends.
Again all talk, pizdbol.



P.S.
What a horrible hate crime.
Diagnosis: tolerast.
Dismissed!
Keyword here is CRIME, i hope you learn the hard way.
Face it your life sucks, otherwise you'd have more interesting and productive preoccupations.

[Snoshi]

How did this topic turned into Russian civil war?

[Rune_X2]

Vladimir we-don't-negotiate-with-terrorists-we-kill-them Putin is great. Western nations and politicians could learn a lot about being less PC and more honest and courageous and speaking you mind from than man. Now don't you go an make him all metro******, just because a few western leftist girlie-men journalists gets their pink knickers all in a twist.

[Snoshi]

BTW, there are quite a few caucausians on this site. From what I gather, all of them have their own identity, but consider themselves Russian at the same time, and always stand up for the country when it is being flamed here. So there is no need to generalise with your "caucasian orcs".

If you are so scared of the "horde" emigrating to the big Russian cities, then perhaps it's time for Russia to invest into its caucasian republics so more of them will have oppurtunities there.

Agree... Like Alan.. He is from Ossetia and consider himself Russian... But now he is getting flamed here... What a shame

[11:55]

I think it's ok to make a joke about it, even if you'r a president.

[Flamming_Python]

How did this topic turned into Russian civil war?

Good question...

About your human factor Moongazer. Who gets to decide it? The memoirs, or perhaps the alpine girl? You can't base your ideology off a few personal notes.

[Laibach]

Putin, http://forum.emule-project.net/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif


Only an uninformed PC infected person would support putin, i dont know how you can support him after all he done to ruin russia into oblivion?

[Alan]

Oh boy, yep, into oblivion. As compared to the glorious, prosperous days of the super democratic 90s.

He must be some great oblivionator if 75% of those he drove into OBLIVION DUN-DUN-DUN support him.

Pensions.... rose, into oblivion.

Jobs.... appeared, into oblivion.

Lifestyle level, rose... INTO THE FRIGGIN EVERLOVIN OBLIVION!

Funny, my grandparents, all four of them well educated, people well into their seventies, who have lived through Russia's best and worst of the century, all say Putin is doing a good job.

And here, you, some PC poser who's never been to Russia, claims to know better.

... oh... OBLIVION STRONG!!!1111

[madpendos]

Only an uninformed PC infected person would support putin, i dont know how you can support him after all he done to ruin russia into oblivion?

one of the most retarded posts this year

[Alan]

Oblivion Strong!!!!!!11111111111

[madpendos]

Oblivion Strong!!!!!!11111111111

Never got into that game. Not a fan of fantazy gamez.

[Alan]

Never got into that game. Not a fan of fantazy gamez.


I thought the character designs sucked, and the story was too slow, never got into it either.

Actually I'm just not a big gamer in general.

[Laibach]

one of the most retarded posts this year


Hello clown, do you have any-idea how many russians die each year because of putins incompetent fascist rule?, how many people suffer because all of its property is in putins and his oligarch dogs pockets, like chubais and all the 'skies, how he lost(gave away) almost all the strategic and historical ties and assets russia had to the ex-ussr nations to the americans, nato bases encircling russia with thousands of tanks, rockets awacs anti missile shields just some miles fromt he capital cities, and it gets worse everyday with putins and his ring of criminals rule.

[Alan]

Oblivion Strong!!!!!!111111

[madpendos]

Hello clown, do you have any-idea how many russians die each year because of putins incompetent fascist rule?, how many people suffer because all of its property is in putins and his oligarch dogs pockets, like chubais and all the 'skies, how he lost(gave away) almost all the strategic and historical ties and assets russia had to the ex-ussr nations to the americans, nato bases encircling russia with thousands of tanks, rockets awacs anti missile shields just some miles fromt he capital cities, and it gets worse everyday with putins and his ring of criminals rule.

Trust me, there was as twice as much oligarchs when Yeltsin was in power.

[Laibach]

Oblivion Strong!!!!!!111111

brainwashed putinist kavkazkaya plenitsa

[Laibach]

Trust me, there was as twice as much oligarchs when Yeltsin was in power.



Yeah now more of them hold key power positions and they are more concentrated, also who do you think put putin on his throne clown:roll:(YELTSIN)

[Alan]

brainwashed putinist kavkazkaya plenitsa

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh that's rich. Wow.

So, I suppose you live in Russia then?

[Laibach]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh that's rich. Wow.

So, I suppose you live in Russia then?


Why would i want to live in this fascist ****hole now?, i left it.

[Alan]

Why would i want to live in this fascist ****hole now?, i left it.


Oh, and when was that? You're Russian then?

[Laibach]

Oh, and when was that? You're Russian then?



yes, sometime after ussr collapsed in 1995.

[Mr.K]

Why would i want to live in this fascist ****hole now?, i left it.
Do you watch RTVI? rofl

[Alan]

Then you left a year before I did. Take my word for it, tam seichas namnogo luchshe. Ne slushai ti chush zapadnuyu esli ti Russkii.

Nikakogo tam naher faschisma netu, ya tam v proshlom godu bil, nikto menya ne tronul dazhe iz za kavkazskoi rozhi.

Slushai voobshe muzhik, esli Russki, to chego rugaeshsya. Zvuchish kak pendos rzhunimagu.

[Laibach]

Then you left a year before I did. Take my word for it, tam seichas namnogo luchshe. Ne slushai ti chush zapadnuyu esli ti Russkii.

Nikakogo tam naher faschisma netu, ya tam v proshlom godu bil, nikto menya ne tronul dazhe iz za kavkazskoi rozhi.

Slushai voobshe muzhik, esli Russki, to chego rugaeshsya. Zvuchish kak pendos rzhunimagu.



Vot ob etom ya i govoru, putin, nastoyashi pendosovski fashist, postavlin na tron oligarhomi i pyanom urodom, vse idet k huzhimu, populatsiya umenshaitsa, economia tolka derzhitsa na faktorah mineralnih obespicheni itd.. vse dengi idut oligarham i mafii, da cherez 50 let bolshe polovini populatsii izcheznit kebenyam, a Tbl eshe cheto nisesh pro putina?

[Alan]

Paren, uspokoisya, vse vporyadke. So vremen Yeltsina nachali platit i pensii i zarabotki. Piyanitsi umirayut, nu i her s nimi. Putin ne Putin, ih ne izmenit.

Mafii mnogo, a pri Yeltsinechto, malo bilo? Eshe huzhe bilo. Da i oligarhia huzhe bila, vsie na zapad vivozili.

I poslushai muzhik, Putin cherez god uidet, chego togda govorit budesh?

A naschet promishlenosti, da stroyat oni, vezde.Vot zavod visokoi tehnologii postroili nedavno, novie zdaniya i dorogi vezde. No ne tak bistro, nas desatiletiyami razvalivali.

Slush ladno, konchaem sirbor, ne malenkie, davai na pendosovskom, ato zabanyat chego dobrogo.

[Flamming_Python]

Hello clown, do you have any-idea how many russians die each year because of putins incompetent fascist rule?, how many people suffer because all of its property is in putins and his oligarch dogs pockets, like chubais and all the 'skies, how he lost(gave away) almost all the strategic and historical ties and assets russia had to the ex-ussr nations to the americans, nato bases encircling russia with thousands of tanks, rockets awacs anti missile shields just some miles fromt he capital cities, and it gets worse everyday with putins and his ring of criminals rule.

You tell me mate. How many died because of Putin's fascist rule?

Chyo za xren' voobshe? A ty shto by sdelal esli by ty byl president? Dai nam tvoi sovyet, na temy "kak pochinit Rossiyu" :)

It is true that he was tragically naive when he decided to co-operate with Bush by supporting him in placing US bases in Central Asia. He also did a few other mistakes (sometimes he was too hard-line), but at the end of the day, he has ruled quite wisely.

[asch]

Laibach.
guy, you are know absolutely nothing about Russia. i feel a shame about condition of my country 7-9 years ago.
now i have a reasons to be proud of it.
and all your "fascist" crap is just crap.

[koozya]

i dont how you feel, but its much better then that **** which was happening 10 years ago.

[Moongazer]

Agree... Like Alan.. He is from Ossetia and consider himself Russian... But now he is getting flamed here... What a shame
Did you read my post #62 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2022455&postcount=62)?

[Moongazer]

And, read this (http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/106578) about general Ermolov and chechen scum.


Главное зло, по мнению проконсула Кавказа, составляли так называемые мирные чеченцы, проживающие в надтеречных аулах. Население их формально демонстрировало признаки внешней покорности российским властям. Однако именно в этих селах был, по свидетельствам летописцев Большой Кавказской войны, притон для всевозможных бандгрупп. Лучшими наблюдателями за российскими войсками и проводниками являлись сами же "мирные" чеченцы. Перед набегами в "мирных" надтеречных аулах концентрировались отряды разбойников, и сюда же они возвращались с награбленным имуществом и пленными после очередных вылазок.

[...]

"В случае воровства на линии, - писал проконсул Кавказа в своих обращениях к чеченцам, - селения обязаны выдать вора. Если скроется вор, то выдать его семейство. Если, по прежнему обыкновению, жители осмелятся дать и самому семейству преступника способ к побегу, то обязаны выдать ближайших его родственников. Если не будут выданы родственники - аулы ваши будут разрушены, семейства распроданы в горы, аманаты (заложники) повешены".
Especially for liberasts, who wailing about Hitler: this tactic is the only one effective even today. Cuz chechens never change.


К слову сказать, "цивилизованные" англичане действовали против своих противников куда жестче: в Индии привязывали пленных к дулам пушек и "салютовали", в Южной Африке во время англо-бурской войны устраивали концлагеря для мирного населения (смертность была та еще) и использовали тактику "выжженной земли". И ничего, не парятся по этому поводу...

[Moongazer]

Keyword here is CRIME, i hope you learn the hard way.Face it your life sucks, otherwise you'd have more interesting and productive preoccupations.
Не отвлекайтесь, товарищ либерастик, сосите. И не чмокайте так громко, а не то пожалуюсь на вас в ООН!

P.S. That's a good tale about negros, blacks (don't confuse with negros!), and skins:
http://smelding.livejournal.com/6077.html

[asch]

Не отвлекайтесь, товарищ либерастик, сосите. И не чмокайте так громко, а не то пожалуюсь на вас в ООН!
слушай, паренек, не умеешь разговаривать - лучше рот не открывай совсем. а вообще, всякие уроды здесь долго не удерживаются. имей ввиду.

[LRPV]

How about using English?

[asch]

How about using English?
he make personal insult, i say him to shut his mouth. that's all.

[DeltaWhisky58]

he make personal insult, i say him to shut his mouth. that's all.

All very well, but this is an English language forum - do not use Russian on open forum.

[Moongazer]

How about using English?

Translation: Dear liberast, don't get distracted, continue to suck, pls. And don't smack so loud, or I'll complain to UN about you.

Explanation: americans can be absolutely clueless about what's going on in Russia, but if somebody claimed to be russian playing idiot - he's not worth talking to.

P.S. If somebody can read russian, this is great book - chechen's company vet memoirs.
Read it:


Проезжая мимо какого-то сарая, мы увидели старушку, которая левой рукой вытирала слезы, а правой крестилась, глядя на нас. Мимо нее мы не могли проехать. Остановились. Спрыгнули, подошли к ней. Она зарыдала еще громче, во весь голос, раскрывая беззубый рот. Морщинистое лицо и вовсе сморщилось. Мы не понимали, в чем дело. Когда подошли ближе, она повалилась на колени, бросилась к разведчику и обняла его ноги. Мы оторопели. Стали поднимать бабушку, а она еще сильней вцепилась в ноги и кричала:
- Родные мои! Пришли! Спасибо, Господи, что позволил дожить! Родненькие мои! Спасибо!
It's about what beastoids did to helpless russian old people.
http://artofwar.ru/m/mironow_w_n/text_0010.shtml

[Friendly Fire]

Translation: Dear liberast, don't get distracted, continue to suck, pls. And don't smack so loud, or I'll complain to UN about you.

Explanation: americans can be absolutely clueless about what's going on in Russia, but if somebody claimed to be russian playing idiot - he's not worth talking to.

P.S. If somebody can read russian, this is great book - chechen's company vet memoirs.
Read it:


It's about what beastoids did to helpless russian old people.
http://artofwar.ru/m/mironow_w_n/text_0010.shtml


Lol you're out of your mind friend. War is followed by cease fires (called peace) and cease fires are followed by wars. Chechens are people like russians, history makes the distinction!

And the Million Ruble question is who writes History?

[Moongazer]

And what did you try to say by that?

[Friendly Fire]

And what did you try to say by that?

That your xenophobic hate on Chechens is not the Solution. I'm not going to mumble the "hate brings hate" crap but you're on the road to perdition. You can protest as much as you want against the chechens nothing will do. Preserving the russian territorial integrity is one thing, doing it nazi syle it's another.

[Moongazer]

FF, try to understand with your tolerant and politcorrect brain, that hate to chechens have nothing to do with xenophobia, just like american's hate to arabs right after 911. But I'm afraid your brain is not big enough.

[Alan]

Lol you're out of your mind friend. War is followed by cease fires (called peace) and cease fires are followed by wars.


I'll argue that.

Tribal wars never really stop. They go on and on and on and on and on for centuries until one tribe is wiped out or assimilated.

And guess what, most wars are tribal wars, humans are by nature tribal species.

[Friendly Fire]

FF, try to understand with your tolerant and politcorrect brain, that hate to chechens have nothing to do with xenophobia, just like american's hate to arabs right after 911. But I'm afraid your brain is not big enough.


Technically speaking hating the foreigners is Xenophobia. Now if I sparked your suspension, please acept my apologies, it wasn't my intent.

Insulting my brain for being only spacious enough for this pollitically correct POV makes me wonder why others in this same Forum find me "pollitically incorrect" about numerous other things.

[CPL Trevoga]

Technically speaking hating the foreigners is Xenophobia. Now if I sparked your suspension, please acept my apologies, it wasn't my intent.

Insulting my brain for being only spacious enough for this pollitically correct POV makes me wonder why others in this same Forum find me "pollitically incorrect" about numerous other things.

Ballsgazer is clearly out of line, he insulted everybody, unfairly attacked asch. He doesn't deserve an appology. He is anti-Russian and enemy of the Motherland. I would execute him personally.

[Friendly Fire]

Ballsgazer is clearly out of line, he insulted everybody, unfairly attacked asch. He doesn't deserve an appology. He is anti-Russian and enemy of the Motherland. I would execute him personally.


And then I would have to execute you to clean up the mess...ehem what the USSR is gone? Oh forget about it then.

[Flamming_Python]

Ballsgazer is clearly out of line, he insulted everybody, unfairly attacked asch. He doesn't deserve an appology. He is anti-Russian and enemy of the Motherland. I would execute him personally.

By executive order of the Russia STRONG crew, Moongazer shall from now on be known, as an Enemy of the People.

Execution by firing squad will be personally undertaken By Corporal Trevoga at 0600 Tommorow. Comrade Flamming_Python will personally oversee the extermination of this traitor!

p-)

Moongazer, don't take this to heart, just turn it down a notch or 10 on the fascism scale, eh?

[Oberon]

Technically speaking hating the foreigners is Xenophobia.
You better look into glossary again, before acknowledging your ignorance.

Hint: during WWII americans were all xenophobic. They all hate japaneses.

[asch]

errr... can i execute somebody too? pleeease...
:)

[Flamming_Python]

errr... can i execute somebody too? pleeease...
:)

Sure we'll line up a few trolls on this forum just for you p-)

[koozya]

Sure we'll line up a few trolls on this forum just for you p-)

i will pull the trigger :)

[Oberon]

errr... can i execute somebody too? pleeease...
:)
Of course!
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4482/killyourselfge5.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=killyourselfge5.jpg)

[asch]

Of course!
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4482/killyourselfge5.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=killyourselfge5.jpg)
Moongazer, is it you, buddy?

[Oberon]

Ballsgazer is clearly out of line, he insulted everybody, unfairly attacked asch. He doesn't deserve an appology. He is anti-Russian and enemy of the Motherland. I would execute him personally.
I'm interested, what such rusak-patriot as yourself doing in Brooklyn?
Working in pizza delivery, may be? :)

[Oberon]

Moongazer, is it you, buddy?
I don't think he's your buddy, son.

[asch]

multiaccounts are big no-no. :-*$

[M4ko]

i dont how you feel, but its much better then that **** which was happening 10 years ago.

koozya, did you make that avatar yourself? there is a mistake in it.

[koozya]

koozya, did you make that avatar yourself? there is a mistake in it.
nah got it from net

[Oberon]

koozya, did you make that avatar yourself? there is a mistake in it.
It's a padonak language, silly.

[asch]

It's a padonak language, silly.
oh ya smart, buddy.

[Oberon]

first - right, second - wrong

[Friendly Fire]

You better look into glossary again, before acknowledging your ignorance.

Hint: during WWII americans were all xenophobic. They all hate japaneses.



Look it doesn't change **** if the hatred is justified or not(hatred "en bloc" is never justified). A Xenohater is a xenohater. Please get a look also on some history books. In the US the "Anti-Jap" hysteria was rapmant even before the war and it was deepy rooted since the "German Turn" Japan took in the early 1910.

You fail again.

[asch]

first - right, second - wrong
as you say, buddy.

[Flamming_Python]

Moongazer, is it you, buddy?

Nice one you spotted it immediately :D

BTW, in terms of politics, Left is Right, and Right is Wrong ;)

[CPL Trevoga]

I'm interested, what such rusak-patriot as yourself doing in Brooklyn?
Working in pizza delivery, may be? :)

I'm a political exile and I'm washing dishes in a chinese restaurant, thank you very much.

I'm Russian, so patriotism is not something you choose, it's from birth, just flows in you with mother's milk. You can's seriously expect my to hate my Motherland, just because I'm in Brooklyn.

[Oberon]

Look it doesn't change **** if the hatred is justified or not(hatred "en bloc" is never justified). A Xenohater is a xenohater.
So my advice to look into glossary wasn't heard? Ok. Not my prob.
Continue with that PC BS. But what will you do if some foreigner kill your parents or rape your wife? Love him to avoid becoming Xenohater? ;)

P.S. "hatred "en bloc" is never justified" - who did that to your brains?! (O_O)

[Friendly Fire]

So my advice to look into glossary wasn't heard? Ok. Not my prob.
Continue with that PC BS. But what will you do if some foreigner kill your parents or rape your wife? Love him to avoid becoming Xenohater? ;)

P.S. "hatred "en bloc" is never justified" - who did that to your brains?! (O_O)


I'd hate him personally, for his individual actions. But surely not his alikes.



Xenophobia denotes a phobic attitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobic_attitude) towards strangers or of the unknown. It comes from the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) words ξένος (xenos), meaning "foreigner," "stranger," and φόβος (phobos), meaning "fear." The term is typically used to describe fear or dislike of foreigners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28law%29) or in general of people different from one's self. For example, racism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism) is sometimes described as a form of xenophobia, but in most cases racism has nothing to do with a real phobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobia). Xenophobia implies a belief that the target is in some way foreign. Prejudice against women cannot be considered xenophobic in this sense, except in the limited case of all-male clubs or institutions. The term xenophilia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophilia) is used for the opposite behavior, attraction to or love for foreign persons.
The American Psychiatric Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psychiatric_Association)'s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV), 4th edition ("DSM-IV") includes in its description of a phobia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobia) an "intense anxiety" which follows exposure to the "object of the phobia, either in real life or via imagination or video..." For xenophobia there are two main objects of the phobia. The first is a population group present within a society, which is not considered part of that society. Often they are recent immigrants (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration), but xenophobia may be directed against a group which has been present for centuries. This form of xenophobia can elicit or facilitate hostile and violent reactions, such as mass expulsion of immigrants, or in the worst case, genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide).
The second form of xenophobia is primarily cultural, and the objects of the phobia are cultural elements which are considered alien. All cultures are subject to external influences, but cultural xenophobia is often narrowly directed, for instance at foreign loan words in a national language. It rarely leads to aggression against persons, but can result in political campaigns for cultural or linguistic purification. Isolationism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism), a general aversion of foreign affairs, is not accurately described as xenophobia. Additionally, in the world of science fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction), xenophobia usually refers to a fear or hatred of extraterrestrial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial) cultures or beings.


Wiki...

Edit: I'm goo' with meh rifa'...and I love you too! What if a national did that?

[Oberon]

I'm a political exile
From Kaschenko? ;)



and I'm washing dishes in a chinese restaurant, thank you very much.
And how those chineses pay you? I hope, enough for a piece of pizza? :)



I'm Russian, so patriotism is not something you choose, it's from birth, just flows in you with mother's milk. You can's seriously expect my to hate my Motherland, just because I'm in Brooklyn.
Good for you. 98% of emigrants here switch to mos'ka mode - barking with all lungs towards xUSSR hoping new master will throw a bone.
http://sexychat.ru/img/hungry.gif

[Oberon]

I'd hate him personally, for his individual actions. But surely not his alikes.
Patient, you showing a good chances for recovery.

And what if you and your family living among NN ethnicity? And your ethnicity is minority? What if such treatment is typical for NN towards your ethnicity? What if many other from your ethnicity recieving the same treatment only because their ethnicity and telling you many stories about it? What if many NN guys keep telling you that your ethnicity [censored] and you must be slaves or slayed? What if you systematically beaten, humiliated or robbed by NN only because your not NN and nobody is going to protect you?

Patient, pls describe your feelings towards NN as complete as possible.

[Friendly Fire]

Patient, you showing a good chances for recovery.

And what if you and your family living among NN ethnicity? And your ethnicity is minority? What if such treatment is typical for NN towards your ethnicity? What if many other from your ethnicity recieving the same treatment only because their ethnicity and telling you many stories about it? What if many NN guys keep telling you that your ethnicity [censored] and you must be slaves or slayed? What if you systematically beaten, humiliated or robbed by NN only because your not NN and nobody is going to protect you?

Patient, pls describe your feelings towards NN as complete as possible.


May I answer you after underscoring a question you left unanswered?

What if a national did that?

I probably would end up repeating this infernal cycle among my own people. That's called biological resistence!

Oh and for you information! I'm an recoverable commie. Worthless in your eyes...till my brothers in pestilence (russians are among others) are physically threatened!

That's another lesson you forgot from the commie times, any one can be good commie, it's like hatred, it's universal!

[Oberon]

I'd hate him personally, for his individual actions.
And that would be Xenophoby, right? He's a foreigner, right? :)



I'm an recoverable commie. Worthless in your eyes
http://www.yaplakal.com/html/emoticons/upset.gif And what's wrong about being a communist? http://www.yaplakal.com/html/emoticons/upset.gif

[Friendly Fire]

And that would be Xenophoby, right? He's a foreigner, right? :)



http://www.yaplakal.com/html/emoticons/upset.gif And what's wrong about being a communist? http://www.yaplakal.com/html/emoticons/upset.gif


Not at all...I'd hate Nizam Suckmy****ov not the Caucasian he is.

Don't know you seemed pretty angry against antifas..:cantbeli:

[Flamming_Python]

http://www.yaplakal.com/html/emoticons/upset.gif And what's wrong about being a communist? http://www.yaplakal.com/html/emoticons/upset.gif

Oberon, when backflipping, try not to break your back in the process :)

[CPL Trevoga]

Good for you. 98% of emigrants here switch to mos'ka mode - barking with all lungs towards xUSSR hoping new master will throw a bone.
http://sexychat.ru/img/hungry.gif

How many immigrants do you know? I've never heard a bad word from anybody.

[Friendly Fire]

How many immigrants do you know? I've never heard a bad word from anybody.


Unfortunately I have...but I'm not concernedp-) .

[Oberon]

Don't know you seemed pretty angry against antifas..:cantbeli:

roflroflroflroflrofl

Friendly Fire, Flamming_Python, where are you from?
Mars? Papua New Guinea? Desert island? :)

Or modern americans still know about Russia on "vottka, matreshka, balalaika, Moskov in Siberia, polar bears on Red Square" level? :)

Today Communists and "Fascists" are natural and closest allies!
There is even special term for them - "Red-Browns", it exist long before 1991.

You really didn't know? :cantbeli:


65 years ago people who wanted to destroy russian nation were called fascists. The ones who wanted to protect it were called anti-fascists.
Today is vice versa.

[Oberon]

How many immigrants do you know? I've never heard a bad word from anybody.
I saw more than enough russian-speaking emigrants who trying to be "holier than pope", or more patriotic than Texas redneck. Word "rashka" is usual for them.

[Oberon]

Not at all...I'd hate Nizam Suckmy****ov not the Caucasian he is.

(weary) Can you read russian, by any chance? I'm too tired to do a LIKBEZ for you. (campaign against illiteracy)

[asch]

Nice one you spotted it immediately :D

BTW, in terms of politics, Left is Right, and Right is Wrong ;)
that was easy. same threads, same posts. inability to civilized talk, spiced with insults.
huh.

[Oberon]

same threads, same posts. inability to civilized talk, spiced with insults.
It's good that you're full with self-criticism.
But what it have to do with the topic?

[Flamming_Python]

roflroflroflroflrofl

Friendly Fire, Flamming_Python, where are you from?
Mars? Papua New Guinea? Desert island? :)

Or modern americans still know about Russia on "vottka, matreshka, balalaika, Moskov in Siberia, polar bears on Red Square" level? :)

Today Communists and "Fascists" are natural and closest allies!
There is even special term for them - "Red-Browns", it exist long before 1991.

You really didn't know? :cantbeli:


65 years ago people who wanted to destroy russian nation were called fascists. The ones who wanted to protect it were called anti-fascists.
Today is vice versa.

I'm from Mars (can't you tell from my avatar?)

Socialism can never be the same as fascism, by definition.

Socialism is a social-economic theory.

In terms of the social aspect, it is based on the idea of internationalism, and the idea that people around the world aren't so different, but wars and troubles arise because of the political and economic power structures that gives the minority the ability to rule and benefit from the majority, in every place on earth. That power structure could be one of pure capitalism, or based on religion or monarchy, traditional culture, or anything else. When Socialism first emerged in the 19th century, it rejected the theories of racial superiority or inherent backwardness, and viewed the conflicts of the world as competition between the most powerfull interests groups who manipulate their own populations into doing their dirty work.

The revolutionairy aspect of it stipulates, and is based on the whole idea of the people of the world uniting and fighting together against the rule of each of their power structures, rather than working against each other on the basis of nationalism, religion, and other divisions that would enable the power-holders in each society to control their own population more effectively.

And once again, the economic aspect requires that the people take control of their own produce, and can only exist if nations as entities are destroyed and one main world economy emerges. Attempts to build socialism in one country, will end up failing because an effective socialist economy once again, rests on internationalism.

Fascism, on the other hand, is completely opposite to the idea of internationalism (that is so crucial to the theories of Socialism), and can't possibly work in the same way.

[Oberon]

Flamming_Python, do you know famous anecdote about difference between theory and practice?

Your LIKBEZ was irrelevant, I knew all that since middle school.

You're just proved again you're absolutely clueless about current political sutuation in Erefia.

[asch]

It's good that you're full with self-criticism.
But what it have to do with the topic?
oh, and childish arguements as this one as well.

You're just proved again you're absolutely clueless about current political sutuation in Erefia.
typical "fvck-yer-facts-you-know-nutin!" responce.

[Oberon]

oh, and childish arguements as this one as well.
Your self-criticism quickly turning into self-flagellation.
Maybe you should see a psychiatrist?

[asch]

how old are you?

[Oberon]

Phallometry is not my style.
You're better find somebody else for your games.

[asch]

nevermind then. enjoy yourself.

[CPL Trevoga]

how old are you?

Don't waste time with this little boy with a dirty ass. He's trying to convince people who grew up in USSR and much older than him how awesome fashists are. Fashism is failed ideology and you Oberon is a fuking neRuss'.

[Oberon]

CPL Trevoga (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=4837), rydal'!

fuking neRuss' right now is exactly "antifa", and "fascists" are the ones formerly called russian patriots.

You guys are become stupid enough to be confused by your own labels.

Read this:
Звучит фашистский призыв - "русские объединяйтесь!" (http://krylov.livejournal.com/1379436.html)

P.S. Konstantin Krylov, inventor of term "neRuss", is "fascist", too. :)

[Oberon]

That your xenophobic hate on Chechens is not the Solution. I'm not going to mumble the "hate brings hate" crap but you're on the road to perdition. You can protest as much as you want against the chechens nothing will do. Preserving the russian territorial integrity is one thing, doing it nazi syle it's another.

Oops, I forgot to ask One Fundamental Question.
Are you american?

[CPL Trevoga]

CPL Trevoga (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=4837), rydal'!

fuking neRuss' right now is exactly "antifa", and "fascists" are the ones formerly called russian patriots.

You guys are become stupid enough to be confused by your own labels.

Read this:
Звучит фашистский призыв - "русские объединяйтесь!" (http://krylov.livejournal.com/1379436.html)

P.S. Konstantin Krylov, inventor of term "neRuss", is "fascist", too. :)

Listen, your "русские объединяйтесь!" is just empty words, it did not stop you from disrestpecting and insulting acsh, he's Russian too. Judging from your previous anit-Russian posts, don't be so fuking surprised that I called you neRuss' blya.

[Elemental666]

What the hell are you guys talking about?
Way off topic.

[Flamming_Python]

What the hell are you guys talking about?
Way off topic.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Comparing the current state of this thread with page 1, I can see your point p-)

[Oberon]

Listen, your "русские объединяйтесь!" is just empty words,
"Russians, unite!" (translation)
No, it's example of russian fascism. Not a joke.
Another example - to call chechen murderers "beastoids".



it did not stop you from disrestpecting and insulting acsh, he's Russian too.
Post 46 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2020381&postcount=46) - chechen right watchers are the worst kind of neRuss'.
Such russians deserve only one kind of respect - soap and rope. Not even 9 gram.



Judging from your previous anit-Russian posts,
Which exists only in your fevered imagination...



don't be so fuking surprised that I called you neRuss' blya.
Emigrantishko from Brooklyn and neRuss' calling me neRuss'?
How amusing. rofl

[Friendly Fire]

Oops, I forgot to ask One Fundamental Question.
Are you american?


No I'm Albanian born, Belgian naturalized.

And I do know what you mean by Fundamental Question, alas.

[Oberon]

Are you from Albania? Honestly? http://megasmile.chat.ru/pics/eh.gif
http://rulezman.multik.org/41.gif

P.S. So you in Belgia? Good. Heard about discotheque in Ostend?

[Friendly Fire]

Are you from Albania? Honestly? http://megasmile.chat.ru/pics/eh.gif
http://rulezman.multik.org/41.gif


Po, sinqerisht jam nga Shqipëria! Nuk besoj se flet Shqip, por megjithatë te përgjigjem ne gjuhën mëmë!

[Friendly Fire]

Are you from Albania? Honestly? http://megasmile.chat.ru/pics/eh.gif
http://rulezman.multik.org/41.gif

P.S. So you in Belgia? Good. Heard about "Karre-Beach" in Ostend?


Posse, posh wannabee place, good enough if you want to hunt small flemish blondes and or francophone brunettes. But if you want quality posh beter head to heist, or le Coq (vlamingen are going to skin me for using the french name).

[Oberon]

Posse, posh wannabee place, good enough if you want to hunt small flemish blondes and or francophone brunettes. But if you want quality posh beter head to heist, or le Coq (vlamingen are going to skin me for using the french name).
Aha. Ever heard the news - how chechens "hunt small flemish blondes" in there?

[Yaro]

Guys what the hell are you talking about?

[Friendly Fire]

Guys what the hell are you talking about?


Nuthin' having a chat sharin' a Riga!p-)

[Oberon]

And I do know what you mean by Fundamental Question, alas.
Really? :)

[Friendly Fire]

Really? :)

p-) yes. woot

[Oberon]

Say it. .

[Friendly Fire]

Say it. .


No way. Better dead than a dog of SSHA. p-)

[CPL Trevoga]

Emigrantishko from Brooklyn and neRuss' calling me neRuss'?
How amusing. rofl

My immigration status should not concern you, Russia is a free country, I can live where ever I want, any way, now you attacking me, another Russian and then you get all upset that I call you neRuss', because you're not acting like a good Russian would.

Listen to the word of wisdom, from us, old guys: It's good to just shutthefukup sometimes. Heed these wise word, they will help you alot in this life young one.


FriedlyFire, I though you're were Russian....

[Friendly Fire]

My immigration status should not concern you, Russia is a free country, I can live where ever I want, any way, now you attacking me, another Russian and then you get all upset that I call you neRuss', because you're not acting like a good Russian would.

Listen to the word of wisdom, from us, old guys: It's good to just shutthefukup sometimes. Heed these wise word, they will help you alot in this life young one.


FriedlyFire, I though you're were Russian....


Part of the Russian Totalitarian team. Soviet Wannabee. p-) official Pinko.
No jokes aside, when you look back at history you can't afford to be against Russia.

[Oberon]

My immigration status should not concern you, Russia is a free country, I can live where ever I want,
What an amazing performance with a self-exposure! Hurry to watch!

That so-called "russian" just used verbal template which is characteristic feature of american, replacing "America" with "Russia" on the fly. So if he's russian, I'm martian. :)

Hint: to imagine russian saying Russia is a free country is plain impossible even in dumbest american movies.

It is indicative. Very much.
"Freudian slip of the tongue", he-he.
Thanks for the show, I really enjoyed it! rofl



any way, now you attacking me, another Russian
I see, there are a lot of "russian" on this forum, who don't know basic things about Russia. p-)



and then you get all upset that I call you neRuss', because you're not acting like a good Russian would.
Now tell a stories about tolerance, about "friendship of nations", about horrible "russki foshshizm", and I'll say "Mask, I know you!". :)



Listen to the word of wisdom, from us, old guys: It's good to just shutthefukup sometimes. Heed these wise word, they will help you alot in this life young one.
I won't say you the same, you are, like that corporal's widow, love to flog yourself. :) Emigrantishko is not a geographic location, it's mentality. You are perfect illustration of what they are. :)



FriedlyFire, I though you're were Russian....
I really hope he's not "russian". :)

[Oberon]

No way. Better dead than a dog of SSHA. p-)
And what about SSHA? Believe me, I really not informed. :)


No jokes aside, when you look back at history you can't afford to be against Russia.
Heh, if everyone were so clever...

P.S. I'm stalinist, BTW.
P.P.S. Do you still unable to understand why russians who hate chechens are not xenophobs?
And why word "xenophobia" in Russia became birthmark of tolerasts, human wrong watchers, grant-eaters and other demagogues of every stripe?

[asch]

And what about SSHA? Believe me, I really not informed. :)


Heh, if everyone were so clever...

P.S. I'm stalinist, BTW.
P.P.S. Do you still unable to understand why russians who hate chechens are not xenophobs?
And why word "xenophobia" in Russia became birthmark of tolerasts, human wrong watchers, grant-eaters and other demagogues of every stripe?
this guy produce so much winds...
some scientists must research this anomaly.
p-)

[Friendly Fire]

And what about SSHA? Believe me, I really not informed. :)


Heh, if everyone were so clever...

P.S. I'm stalinist, BTW.
P.P.S. Do you still unable to understand why russians who hate chechens are not xenophobs?
And why word "xenophobia" in Russia became birthmark of tolerasts, human wrong watchers, grant-eaters and other demagogues of every stripe?

Well I use it as a technical word. To me it isn't the semantical graal it has become to other westerners (or foreigners) when dealing with russia.

In order to avoid sayin the improper "racist" I use xeno. I understand that russians bear political scars on em. I understand that there was an ethnic cleansing in europe in the 90's that went silent ("ethnic" Russians were driven aways in all sorts of ways from their countries). I understand that the russians found themselves entangled in the "memory gap" the fact how they suffered the same blows when in the USSR than the other national groups, but were accused of master minding them once these groups wanted to break free.

How ever I don't get it, the same way I don't get our kosovar neighbour's hatred towards the Serbs.

I could speak about Russia and it's ostracism "mis en place" and executed by the "New World Order" say that in french and you'd get sued for racism!

As a last word, Brownies make me sad, Anarchists make me laugh (but their bombs:backhand: ). We need those nihilists back.

[Flamming_Python]

this guy produce so much winds...
some scientists must research this anomaly.
p-)

rofl rofl rofl rofl

"Chatting Breeze" is the colloquial British expression p-)

[M4ko]

roflroflroflroflrofl

Friendly Fire, Flamming_Python, where are you from?
Mars? Papua New Guinea? Desert island? :)

Or modern americans still know about Russia on "vottka, matreshka, balalaika, Moskov in Siberia, polar bears on Red Square" level? :)

Today Communists and "Fascists" are natural and closest allies!
There is even special term for them - "Red-Browns", it exist long before 1991.

You really didn't know? :cantbeli:


65 years ago people who wanted to destroy russian nation were called fascists. The ones who wanted to protect it were called anti-fascists.
Today is vice versa.

I agree. Ideals are very similar. Just as the societal structure. But alot of deviations from original ideals have been used to build both societies.


P.S. half of this thread has nothing to do with the topic, and moongazer is taking on everyone here.

[Friendly Fire]

I agree. Ideals are very similar. Just as the societal structure. But alot of deviations from original ideals have been used to build both societies.


P.S. half of this thread has nothing to do with the topic, and moongazer is taking on everyone here.


Ideals are not similar... Facsism does not recognise the Class hirearchy, rejects political freedoms etc etc...

[Flamming_Python]

If you're talking about Stalinism, then you can certainly find similarities (if not in theory, then in method). But I would hardly say that Stalinism is the same as Socialism.

[M4ko]

And what about SSHA? Believe me, I really not informed. :)

"SE" "SHE" "A"

[M4ko]

Ideals are not similar... Facsism does not recognise the Class hirearchy, rejects political freedoms etc etc...

Communism advocates class hirearchy?

I was talking about Nazism not Fascism, even though I dont know much about either one except from what ive observed.

In reality Stalinist communist was a softer fascism.

[Friendly Fire]

"SE" "SHE" "A"

rofl you got me there.

I said Fascism does not recognise class hierarchy...never said it opposed it. Classism was the first concept Communism had right. It never accepted it, yet it recognised that the world was separated in classes, groups, what even you call em defined by their economical background!

[Friendly Fire]

Communism advocates class hirearchy?

I was talking about Nazism not Fascism, even though I dont know much about either one except from what ive observed.

In reality Stalinist communist was a softer fascism.


Stalinism was not a softer fascism, it simply was Socialism given to a paranoidal seminarist.