No Encore For Soldner, A Gaming Reveiw

[redhawk_six]

Well, I tried out the soldner demo. Rather, that's I tried to try out the soldner demo. The net code sucks, I sat there for 30 minutes trying to connect to a server, get fed up, cancel, only to hear that annoying "Soldner!" voice, and wait another 30 minutes trying to connect to another server. I finally gave up.

The menu system is akward, or atleast it seemed so to me. I hate how players can turn off grass and foliage. I feel it's like cheating. Makes others easier to see, giving a huge advantage to those who turn it off. I like being able to customize my player model on that level, it would be nice to see some half-way decent gear and models though. The customization screen is full of bugs. The gloves part, for example, has no scroll bar, so there's only a few that you can use. The uniforms are a joke. They look horrible in my opinion. And the camo's are even worse, the patterns all end up looking the same on the model. The knee pads, well, I can't even begin to describe them, nothing like real knee pads.

I have no idea why they want you to make a password to play online. Copyright protection I suppose.... But it's a waste of time, and my game crashes to desktop every other time I login!

All the menus are too small, compacted so that you can see your character on the left of the screen. This makes setting the options a particular pain in the ass.

The status screen for joining a server is a joke. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the hell it was doing.

All in all, I give soldner a 0. It doesn't even seem to have potential for modding. All around, it seems like a horrible engine.

All I can say is, the OFP community may rest easy knowing that the game ment to topple OFP couldn't even beat CS. :roll:

[MVSpartan117]

I agree it sucked

I REALLY hated hearing "SOLDNER!" on the main menu!!!

[born_to_kill]

i deleted my **** like whoa.

joint operations is where its at

[Truthsayer]

Söldner and Joint Operations are this years (sofar) biggest jokes in game-demos.

If this is the best that will come out this year in terms of 'soldier-simulation' (using the term losely), it's really slim pickens...

[Ratamacue]

Söldner and Joint Operations are this years (sofar) biggest jokes in game-demos.

If this is the best that will come out this year in terms of 'soldier-simulation' (using the term losely), it's really slim pickens...

Just wait for Ghost Recon 2. Red Storm Entertainment is where the talent's at. ;)

[Truthsayer]

Yeah, but is it confirmed for 2004?

If so, then I think GR2 is this years best bet, if they only up the weapon-handling some (hey, picking up fallen comrades weapons, mags or equipment is enough sometimes!), and stay intouch with the original concept, it's going to be a great game and possibly a great simulator [together with the right gamers].

[Ratamacue]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11908

Check out that thread for the released info on it. It's currently slated for a Holidays 2004 release, which seems pretty likely if Ubi has waited this long to confirm the game. There are going to be some gameplay/environment changes in it, but they all seem to be for the better. Hopefully the MP will be awesome as well.

[Truthsayer]

Ah, totally missed it. Now I saw why, was already on the second page...

Thanks for the heads-up.

[Ratamacue]

Sure thing.

[Trident-za]

Ghost Recon 2 and Full Spectrum Warrior are the "soldier-simulations" to watch for. Unfortunately both are due out late in the year. FSW is the one I'm really looking forward to! http://www.fullspectrumwarrior.co.uk/index.php

Joint Operations etc are more arcade type shooters...[/url]

[Ratamacue]

Another one to look for is Close Combat: First to Fight. It's a tactical shooter where you lead a fire team of Marines in MOUT (city fighting) that should be out late this year. The game's being developed with the input and direction of Marines from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force who've served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Haiw]

Yeah well, what can I say; Soldner isn't all that bad, except for one thing; that whole portal crap. The portal servers are overloaded like hell, and you just can't connect to gameservers which basically mean you don't get to play the game. The game itself isn't all that bad actually.

Oh and for those knocking Joint Operations; have you played it longer than 5 minutes (online)? At first I knocked it too, but actually it can be pretty cool, especially on a 64-player server.

[Operation Ivy]

HL2

[Ballistic]

Soldner looks like it has/had potential, but it's bugs and flaws really screw it up. GR2 and FSW are definately the ones to look our for. Operation Flashpoint 2 and the new Close Combat games are looking pretty awesome aswell. Some good gaming is coming our way !!

[MVSpartan117]

Full Spectrum Warrior is gonna kick ass!

[Seoulstriker]

HL2

:lol: don't kid yourself. q1 2005.

[Shadow NX]

Or play good old Operation Flashpoint... sure original game and netcode were not so good but a lot has changed...
Awesome mods and standalone addons :P

Btw to stay on topic, had the same probs with Söldner, annoying to wait for joining a game for ages... not to mention the stupid "Soldner" voice...

http://www.sga-clan.de/bisforums/arty3.jpg

Some addons me and my team are working on ( OFP )

[redhawk_six]

Yes, OFP certainly holds top spot in realistic combat simulation. Especially if you grab the Wargamers League addon pack V. 4.0 and the WGL Gaia Island.

FSW, I won't comment on that since I don't know enough about it. But, if GR2 is anything like GR1, it should be great!

Joint Ops is great, but a little too arcady for my tastes. Doesn't mean I wouldn't still buy it though.

OFP2, well, that'll blow everything out of the water. Codemasters is keeping a tight lid on the project, so very little info is out there. But, in an interveiw, one of the developers said that it'll surpass any game out there once it's released. Unfortunatly, we're probably looking at at least another year or so for OFP2.

[Shadow NX]

Yeah OFP2 could beat anything i think, i mean improve some things like netcode, physics engine with havoc engine features, skelleton system multiple gunner positions.

Add modern effects like pixel shaders, add more detailled models and e voila you got the absolute best game possible ( imho )

till OFP2 i play OFP1, Joint Ops and some Söldner ( if it ever will work correctly online )

Gr2 sounds also damn promising, GR1 was already extremely nice i especially loved the correct looking russian troops, when i imagine that in a modern graphic...wooohooo

[talib_killa34]

Ghost Recon 2 will be my bet for this year! FSW looks very promising, so does Joint Op's. (Ghost Recon OG= forever classic!)

OFP could've been huge in my book if they had done the US Chr's alot better (hate the K-pots), so never bought the game but if they improve it for 2 then I'm on board! :P

Anyone play "Kuma/WAR" yet? It looks tight. :)

Soldner looks cartoonish to me but we shall see.

[Haiw]

Ghost Recon 2 will be my bet for this year! FSW looks very promising, so does Joint Op's. (Ghost Recon OG= forever classic!)

OFP could've been huge in my book if they had done the US Chr's alot better (hate the K-pots), so never bought the game but if they improve it for 2 then I'm on board! :P

Anyone play "Kuma/WAR" yet? It looks tight. :)

Soldner looks cartoonish to me but we shall see.
You complain about OFP and yet you say Kuma/WAR looks thight? Geez...talk about double standards. :D

[Shadow NX]

OFP could've been huge in my book if they had done the US Chr's alot better (hate the K-pots), so never bought the game but if they improve it for 2 then I'm on board! :P


http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/USsol_02.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/USsol_01.jpg

http://home.arcor.de/parvus/mpc/OPEF_ingame_135_760.jpg

A new infantry pack out for OFP... soon there will be a lil mod to replace the normal ofp soldiers with them... and maybe the soldiers me and Laser are working on for east

OFP costs a few bucks in the Game of the Year edition... think about it ;) ( OFP+Redhammer addonpack+Resistance Addonpack )

[talib_killa34]

Now that's what I call class!


Nice! :D

[Ballistic]

Which island pack is that and which soldier packs are they ??

Cat****One's (I tihnk thats his name??) A-stan ? Hyakushiki's US Infantry pack ?? Or a completely new pack altogether yet to be released ? I know theres a relatively newish combined addon combining ECP and GMR plus a whole heap of other addons like BAS Delta and their MH-60's, INQ weapons, earl and sucheys USMC pack and others which replace normal BIS units for the 1985 campaign. It's called "Pappy Boyingtons Super Config" or "OFP:Y2K3".

Either way more info on the pics please !! They looks awesome !!

[G1]

What's this? HL2? GR2? Soldner?

OFP1 kicks all their asses, and just wait for OFP2! woot
OFP is the most dynamic, the most versatile, the most realistic of all of them, but they might be better-looking with their 200 sq m2 maps instead of OFP's 100 km2 maps. ;)

Well, that's my opinion anyway, it's a matter of taste, said the cat as he licked his balls.

[G1]

Sorry for OT, just pimping OFP a bit. ;)

and YES, YOU CAN DRIVE/FLY EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE VEHICLES, altough some aren't released yet.

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/jgtiger_new_05.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/sr25.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/csla_mig4.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/USsol_05.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/des_ranger1.jpg

For you U.S fans

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/wod_ranger2.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/hind2.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/ofrplsup3.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics3/BTR-T3.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics3/falkgustav1.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/USMC-0052.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/newlb2.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/Brad_5.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/Javelin.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/release3.jpg

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/release11.jpg

http://img47.photobucket.com/albums/v143/thirtyg/100404/1.jpg

[Shadow NX]

Maybe we should open a OFP thread here ;)

Those pics show pretty good how much OFP offers... :hug:

[and nice to see some of my pics n textures here woot )

[Tengu]

http://www.tacticalblunder.com/~uploads/smogmorph/A3.jpg

http://www.sga-clan.de/bisforums/t90_1.jpg

http://users.tpg.com.au/adsl0fcx/270304/6.jpg

http://www.gops.it/foto/NAM13-upload.jpg

[Operation Ivy]

Can you play OFP with Window's XP?

[Trident-za]

The thing I DONT like about OFP is all the vehicles/planes/choppers etc. Some people like being able to do everything, but I just wanted an infantry simulation. I loved the single-player campaign right up until I had to fly choppers and stuff.... lost interest :(

[Shadow NX]

Hmm weird... if you wanna only play as Infantry there are many other games out there, here you finally can do everything i wonder what should be bad about that.

Fly a Jet, you get hit by a stinger, bail out and fight your way trough to one of you own outposts... what other game offers something like that?

Besides OFPs flight model is pretty nice, Helicopters fly like a charm... in BF Nam i always end in a tree with the Helicopters :cantbeli:

@OpIvy

Yes sure, why should it not work with XP?

Oh and:

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/news/pics2/USsol_04.jpg ;)

[StarvingStudent47]

I'm a bit nervous about Ghost Recon 2 after being seriously underwhelmed by the buggy, mod-unfriendly Rainbow Six 3. Red Storm Entertainment used to be the coolest gaming company out there for this sort of stuff. Now I'm not so sure.

[Ratamacue]

I'm a bit nervous about Ghost Recon 2 after being seriously underwhelmed by the buggy, mod-unfriendly Rainbow Six 3. Red Storm Entertainment used to be the coolest gaming company out there for this sort of stuff. Now I'm not so sure.

I have faith in GR2, simply given the info on it they've already given out. Can't wait for them to release some media. :)

[usa320]

I just played the Joint Ops demo. I was disappointed considering it came from the makers of Blackhawk Down. I was expecting alot more.

[Ballistic]

I'm a bit nervous about Ghost Recon 2 after being seriously underwhelmed by the buggy, mod-unfriendly Rainbow Six 3. Red Storm Entertainment used to be the coolest gaming company out there for this sort of stuff. Now I'm not so sure.

I have faith in GR2, simply given the info on it they've already given out. Can't wait for them to release some media. :)

E3 :)

[Tengu]

I just played the Joint Ops demo. I was disappointed considering it came from the makers of Blackhawk Down. I was expecting alot more.The game was far from finished, don't worry.

[Spleen]

http://www.warstory.net/d-6.asp

This game looks to have some promise. Of course there's no real info out there yet, so it's impossible to say, but it could be very cool. It has me intrigued at least. Don't miss clicking on the d-5, d-4 etc across the top.

[G1]

Fly a Jet, you get hit by a stinger, bail out and fight your way trough to one of you own outposts... what other game offers something like that?

No game! :) Don't forget to sneak into a town to steal a rifle and a car for your getaway. I can do that scenario in the mission editor in just under a minute, no fancy scripting skills required, since OFP is completely dynamic.

If you don't like all the vehicles, no problem, the majority of OFP missions are infantry anyway, think of vehicles as a really really big bonus that support the infantry. :)

[talib_killa34]

Those pictures make me quiver with delight... woot

Oh man, they raised the bar with those mod's.

[Maine Finn]

Okay.... I've tried reading this thread I don't know how many times, and it's still flying over my head. I guess I need to actually play one or two of these games so I can understand.

What games should I be looking for? I like first-person shooters a lot. I was a DOOM-junkie when I had Windows 95. :D But now I've fallen out of touch with the gaming world.

[Shadow NX]

Get OFP, GOTY edition ( Game of the year, contains all official addons ) should cost 20bucks....

If you need help with patches n stuff thencontact me... theres a awesome FDF mod for OFP btw ;)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fdfmod/newspics/maxim2.jpg

[Haiw]

Isn't OFP a little bit too hardcore for someone who hasn't played computer games for years?

[Trident-za]

Isn't OFP a little bit too hardcore for someone who hasn't played computer games for years?

Yeah - a bit of a jump from Doom :lol:

[Operation Ivy]

@OpIvy

Yes sure, why should it not work with XP?

Well because on the box it only went up to Win2000 and last time i got a game that only went to Win2000 it didnt work :| but snice OFP will work with XP i might go get it woot woot woot

[Shadow NX]

Isn't OFP a little bit too hardcore for someone who hasn't played computer games for years?

Hmm depends... i think it has a great learning curve...

If you start with the original OFP-Cold war crisis campaign you are one of many grunts... run around with your squad... later you get promoted and get your own group... then you play a tank commander, later a pilot and then a Blackop... often you get popups with hints about the controls
Most time first mission of a character is bit like a lil tutorial, tank commander for example has to drive the tank to a position and picks up the rest of the crew... then you move to the range and test the tank firing at some taget objects.

There are hundreds of addons out there for it, also many patches, if anyone has probs with finding the right patches or getting some addons contact me.

http://files.gotf.net/images/screenies/desabrams02.jpg

[Haiw]

Yeah but still, someone who hasn't played a FPS for years and whose last FPS was Doom 1 is gonna have a really hard time trying to complete OFP.

[Herrmannek]

Yeah but still, someone who hasn't played a FPS for years and whose last FPS was Doom 1 is gonna have a really hard time trying to complete OFP.
Nain... Doom 1 was much harder :)

[Tengu]

Yeah but still, someone who hasn't played a FPS for years and whose last FPS was Doom 1 is gonna have a really hard time trying to complete OFP.Play it with a friend who knows how it works in co-op and you will be fine.

[Maine Finn]

Yeah but still, someone who hasn't played a FPS for years and whose last FPS was Doom 1 is gonna have a really hard time trying to complete OFP.

Actually, it was DOOM 2. I must admit, though, that I did like Quake 1 quite a bit as well.

So my FPS skills are probably a little rusty. I love a good challenge.

[Haiw]

Oh well if you played Q1 then you at least know how to aim up and down unlike '2D-aiming' as in D1 & D2... :P

Anyway, to sum it up; OFP is just...above a simple FPS in difficulty degree. Even for an experienced player the game is somewhat hard to get used to at first.

[Maine Finn]

Oh well if you played Q1 then you at least know how to aim up and down unlike '2D-aiming' as in D1 & D2... :P

I haven't had a chance to have a go at Q2. Is it any good? (Even though it's horribly out-dated by now. :D )

EDIT: I picked up a couple of games a while back that I thought would be pretty good, but I hate them both. I just can't use the mouse to move around. That skill isn't in my wiring. I can motor right around with the keypad, though. :D

[Haiw]

Like you said; horribly outdated. :D
TBH I've never really been a fan of the Quakes... even though I completed all the Quake games the level & monster design and overall artwork was just not a likable style for me...

[Shadow NX]

One thing... OFP is not even near Doom, Quake and all the other First person shooters...

Its more like that:

You move within a group, you have to look carefully and search terrain for enemys, when you spot one )( or officer gives you a target ) you usually hit the dirt and then push a button to get a ironsight view to aim.

When a bigger group comes near and you are alone you can crawl into a bush and hide there... or you cna use that as a possibility to ambush enemys.

Its all very realistic, no rushing game like for example Battlefield, inside a tank for example you can switch to internal view, gunner optic, commander optics and all that and it has the real optics with measurements n stuff.

A example:

http://www.sga-clan.de/bisforums/T80Ugunner2.jpg
http://www.sga-clan.de/bisforums/T72Bgunner.jpg
http://www.sga-clan.de/bisforums/T80Ucommander.jpg

To sum it up, the possibilitys in OFP are endless and thats why mayn play it everyday since its out ( like me ) never had any better value for my money.

Oh and theres a superb editor wich is very easy to understand, place some soldiers and then you can learn how everything works easily

[Maine Finn]

One thing... OFP is not even near Doom, Quake and all the other First person shooters...

I realise this. It's why I'm looking to get back into the FPS world, because I miss/want/need that stress reliever.

[Catch22]

:D Maine... I wouldn't call OFP a "stress reliever" in any case... It can be psychologically exhausting - if you get the whole picture - and I'm serious here. Its basic slogan was" If you see the flash its already too late..." How many times I repeated these words to myself... :|

[Maine Finn]

:D Maine... I wouldn't call OFP a "stress reliever" in any case... It can be psychologically exhausting - if you get the whole picture - and I'm serious here. Its basic slogan was" If you see the flash its already too late..." How many times I repeated these words to myself... :|

I didn't mean OFP in particular. I meant FPS games in general. There was nothing better than to play DOOM1/2/Quake on Hard with God mode on, just blowing everything to hell.

But, maybe I'm just twisted and need to find another way to handle my anger.... :|

[Shadow NX]

:D Maine... I wouldn't call OFP a "stress reliever" in any case... It can be psychologically exhausting - if you get the whole picture - and I'm serious here. Its basic slogan was" If you see the flash its already too late..." How many times I repeated these words to myself... :|

Haha, right :D

But hell isnt it cool when a Tank comes close to the bush you hide in and you hope its not running over you... and all these other great OFP moments :hug:

[Seoulstriker]

I'm a bit nervous about Ghost Recon 2 after being seriously underwhelmed by the buggy, mod-unfriendly Rainbow Six 3. Red Storm Entertainment used to be the coolest gaming company out there for this sort of stuff. Now I'm not so sure.


Rainbow Six 3 was not developed by Red Storm Entertainment!!!! Be still, young grasshopper. RSE is designing GR2. :)

[Haiw]

:D Maine... I wouldn't call OFP a "stress reliever" in any case... It can be psychologically exhausting - if you get the whole picture - and I'm serious here. Its basic slogan was" If you see the flash its already too late..." How many times I repeated these words to myself... :|

Haha, right :D

But hell isnt it cool when a Tank comes close to the bush you hide in and you hope its not running over you... and all these other great OFP moments :hug:
Aaaaah yes... especially the Black Op missions can be really frustrating at times. Or in every other mission when you're a foot soldier and you suddenly hear a tracked vehicle... really tense. Especially when the sound is confirmed by the sight of a T-80 coming over the hill. :(

[Haiw]

Okay...now why isn't there a delete button anymore?

[Trident-za]

For those who are interested in such things, Ubi has launched their ghost recon 2 website. http://www.ghostrecon-2.com/teaser/

Release date is set for November 2004. I agree with those above who say that since RSE is making this game it WILL be good :)

[Haiw]

...and short. Like all RSE games. :|

[wiking]

Something that i've been thinking about is why there is no soldier simulation or even an arcade like FPS like MOH where you play the Germans. A game like this would change the entire WW2 Genre and revolutionate the entire FPS genre by giving players a chance to play as the "bad guys" of a war.