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[stuntman]

According to the PRAVDA.RU : "The government sent a group of special forces to release the hostages. There is no information on the number of the servicemen in the special forces unit and their equipment. This is the same unit which rescued the group of Japanese architectures in Kyrgyzstan in 1999."

http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/93/375/12467_hostages.html

Although this info come from russian news (which I don´t trust on 100% ... usually ;) ) it could be interesting behaviour of goverment. Almost all EU countries would have been learning this lesson from them!
IF successful this will be a great lesson learned.

[duck]

Any rescue attempt would surely be carried out by either exclusively US SOF troops or in a joint operation. Japanese CT troops are certainly not prepared to operate in Iraq by themselves. Kurdish fighters would be very likely to co-operate as well, as they are the only reliable force left in Iraq. Using Sunni or Shia scouts could compromise the whole potential rescue attempt.

[SiFiOn]

I hope that any resue-attempt will be succesful, otherwise we are viewing disgusting pics on this site again.

[Haiw]

Almost all EU countries would have been learning this lesson from them!
Huh?!

[scm77]

Japenese special forces:

http://home.comcast.net/~chat_trivia/images/power_rangers.gif

rofl rofl

[Obergefreiter]

rofl

Anyone have any info on Japanese Special forces? I can say I know absolutely nothing about this. I can't be the only one.

[Rantanplan]

Japenese special forces:

http://home.comcast.net/~chat_trivia/images/power_rangers.gif

rofl rofl

Power Rangers are as japanese as Muammar Gadhafi.

[foxtrot023]

Japenese special forces:

http://home.comcast.net/~chat_trivia/images/power_rangers.gif

rofl rofl

Power Rangers are as japanese as Muammar Gadhafi.

Funny stuff though.....

[Maine Finn]

Japenese special forces:

http://home.comcast.net/~chat_trivia/images/power_rangers.gif

rofl rofl

I didn't think it was possible to get any more childish. I'm glad you proved me wrong. Thanks a lot. :roll:

~Emily

[EchoSierra2]

Japenese special forces:

http://home.comcast.net/~chat_trivia/images/power_rangers.gif

rofl rofl

HAHAHAHAHA! LMAO! I choked on my coffee thank you. LOL!

[Imshi-Yallah]

Japans only CT forces are Police, there is a HRT/CT platoon attached to each police district giving how difficult it was to get the SDF deployed overseas they'd be breaking a hell of a lot of laws to do it.
Unless of course one of the elite GSDF units had a previously undisclosed SF capability which would still contravene Japan's pacifist constitution.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreign/Japan/Default.htm

On the other hand I feel it was most fortunate for those Iraqi's who released the South Korean hostages, thats a country that would unleash a whole world of pain on you.[/url]

[AFG]

Japenese special forces:

http://home.comcast.net/~chat_trivia/images/power_rangers.gif

rofl rofl

I didn't think it was possible to get any more childish. I'm glad you proved me wrong. Thanks a lot. :roll:

~Emily

gotta admit that was pretty funny and original in a while

but i hope the captors weren serious about executing the 3. God be with them.

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[martinexsquaddie]

I think most of EU backs the war on terror
rather than the invasion of iraq which they thought was a bad idea and have been proved right :(

[mack pl]

Haiw,

I mean that European goverments, except UK, have no balls for any kind of action. They would rather discuss withdrawing their troops. I am living in Europe but I am very fed up with attitudes to all - wars, politic, etc. Liberals and socialists in Brusel will let EU die due to their wrong decisions. War on terror is not just a war again some fanatics - it is a war against people who hate our EU-USA civilization and want to destroy us. We must be strong and tough. We will win, I am sure ... but it needs a time and effort.
Anyway, I agree that if Japan send their SF operators to Iraq to rescue hostages they would closely cooperate with US SOFs. I don´t know if they have any unit ready to do that but even effort is right ... much better then to sit by the round table and talk bull**** to someone who doesn´t want to listen.Well, few countries sent SOF to A-stan for fight against terror(Germany, Denmark,Norway,Italy,UK),so they have balls sometimes.But if we talking about Iraq,its another story :| BTW not all socialist are f**n pacifist ;) Polish social democratic government sent ours troops to Iraq for example.But I agree with most of that what you wrote CAG 147 ;) Zdarec.

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[mack pl]

OK, I must admit that I am pro-American (many times blame for that :) ) and thus maybe have strict personal point of view but I still think that EU doesn´t do enough. Mack Pl, you are right, Iraq is different story but you and me know what they (Iraqis) have dealt with ... West countries don´t know what it means to live in such a regime. BTW, I mentioned already that Polish goverment is one the bravest in Europe! You may be proud of it!Well, Im proud of ours soldiers,but government is different story :lol:I agree, this guys from west Europe dont know what is a regime(Saddam, comunists etc.). BTW Czech gov have balls too, because they sent comandos to A-stan.

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[mack pl]

Well, they sent them already ... many months after official US request. CZ goverment doesn´t want to see dead soldiers coming home in coffins ... they rather send three field hospitals then a group of operators. Rumour says that 601. SSS will cry for action so much that they persuaded Prime minister to give them a green light.Lepiej póżno, niż wcale-better now than never ;) Poland sent ours troops(GROM,engineers) to A-stan in March 2002, but it wasnt fast response in my opinion. Its very good for yours commandos,because they will have real combat experience in A-stan.Training its not real fight.Zdarec :)

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[usa320]

I would be shocked if the hostages WERENT freed by SOF. But i would be shocked if it were japanese SOF carrying out the raid. The lack the combat experience in modern war. All the peacetime training doesnt mean much over wartime experience. Im guessin the raid will be carried out by a mix of ICDC special forces and Marine FAST or force recon units.

[Dominique]

Japans only CT forces are Police, there is a HRT/CT platoon attached to each police district giving how difficult it was to get the SDF deployed overseas they'd be breaking a hell of a lot of laws to do it.
Unless of course one of the elite GSDF units had a previously undisclosed SF capability which would still contravene Japan's pacifist constitution.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreign/Japan/Default.htm

On the other hand I feel it was most fortunate for those Iraqi's who released the South Korean hostages, thats a country that would unleash a whole world of pain on you.[/url]

Actually the Japanese MSDF (Navy) and GSDF (Army) both have recently formed units. IIRC the GSDF unit is codenamed "S", the MSDF's Special Guard Force (or team- I can't remember which one) is similar to the SEALs.

[Imshi-Yallah]

Do you have a link for that?
Even if they do have the personell in country it far from guarantees that an operation has even been planned

[Haiw]

Haiw,

I mean that European goverments, except UK, have no balls for any kind of action. They would rather discuss withdrawing their troops. I am living in Europe but I am very fed up with attitudes to all - wars, politic, etc. Liberals and socialists in Brusel will let EU die due to their wrong decisions. War on terror is not just a war again some fanatics - it is a war against people who hate our EU-USA civilization and want to destroy us. We must be strong and tough. We will win, I am sure ... but it needs a time and effort.
Anyway, I agree that if Japan send their SF operators to Iraq to rescue hostages they would closely cooperate with US SOFs. I don´t know if they have any unit ready to do that but even effort is right ... much better then to sit by the round table and talk bull**** to someone who doesn´t want to listen.
We don't have any balls for action? Err...what the **** are we doing in Afghanistan then? Besides, why do you think there aren't any 'high-profile' hostage takings in Europe these days? Because we always 'negotiated' with them?

[TriggerPuller]

I would be shocked if the hostages WERENT freed by SOF. But i would be shocked if it were japanese SOF carrying out the raid. The lack the combat experience in modern war. All the peacetime training doesnt mean much over wartime experience. Im guessin the raid will be carried out by a mix of ICDC special forces and Marine FAST or force recon units. You need to learn mission specifics. In no way shape or form is this a mission for FAST or FR marines!

TP

[MetalBoy]

I would be shocked if the hostages WERENT freed by SOF. But i would be shocked if it were japanese SOF carrying out the raid. The lack the combat experience in modern war. All the peacetime training doesnt mean much over wartime experience. Im guessin the raid will be carried out by a mix of ICDC special forces and Marine FAST or force recon units. You need to learn mission specifics. In no way shape or form is this a mission for FAST or FR marines!

TP

Yeah, too delicate for Marine Force Recon, they'd just blow everything up. ;)

[TALOS]

On the other hand I feel it was most fortunate for those Iraqi's who released the South Korean hostages, thats a country that would unleash a whole world of pain on you.[/url]

Too totally agree with you, I know an old guy (I work in health care facilities) who was in korea and the rok were tuff then and from what I hear they have only gotten better.

[TriggerPuller]

On the other hand I feel it was most fortunate for those Iraqi's who released the South Korean hostages, thats a country that would unleash a whole world of pain on you.[/url]

Too totally agree with you, I know an old guy (I work in health care facilities) who was in korea and the rok were tuff then and from what I hear they have only gotten better. I have trained and trained with ROK Marines these boys are as hard as woodpeckers lips and very difficult to knock out!! I believe that S. Korea would have unleashed holy hell if their people were killed,very good idea for the terrorists to release them!!!!

TP

[Webley]

It would be good for Japanese morale to have the Japanese hostages resued by Japanese troops.

I think they will be part of any rescue attempts. Might even be a Japanese entry team going in.

[TriggerPuller]

I would be shocked if the hostages WERENT freed by SOF. But i would be shocked if it were japanese SOF carrying out the raid. The lack the combat experience in modern war. All the peacetime training doesnt mean much over wartime experience. Im guessin the raid will be carried out by a mix of ICDC special forces and Marine FAST or force recon units. You need to learn mission specifics. In no way shape or form is this a mission for FAST or FR marines!

TP

Yeah, too delicate for Marine Force Recon, they'd just blow everything up. ;) We only start blowing **** up once are mission has been compromised!

TP

[TALOS]

I would be shocked if the hostages WERENT freed by SOF. But i would be shocked if it were japanese SOF carrying out the raid. The lack the combat experience in modern war. All the peacetime training doesnt mean much over wartime experience. Im guessin the raid will be carried out by a mix of ICDC special forces and Marine FAST or force recon units. You need to learn mission specifics. In no way shape or form is this a mission for FAST or FR marines!

TP

Yeah, too delicate for Marine Force Recon, they'd just blow everything up. ;) We only start blowing **** up once are mission has been compromised!

TP
Hmmm ... I dont see how this is a problem ;)

[Mudcat]

If I was Japan I would send in the big guy:
http://kylemd.tripod.com//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/space-15.jpg

Seriously, I pray that all of the hostages are released peacefully. If not I hope they blow the freak'n hostage takers away.

[Webley]

Seriously, I pray that all of the hostages are released peacefully. If not I hope they blow the freak'n hostage takers away.

Do you suggest negotiation?

That is the worst thing that could happen as it will encourage the terrorists to take more hostages.

[Haiw]

Seriously, I pray that all of the hostages are released peacefully. If not I hope they blow the freak'n hostage takers away.

Do you suggest negotiation?

That is the worst thing that could happen as it will encourage the terrorists to take more hostages.
No, but like has happened in this case, apparently some Iraqi clerics got them to release them within the next 24 hours. Rescue missions should be a last resort.

[EchoSierra2]

I would be shocked if the hostages WERENT freed by SOF. But i would be shocked if it were japanese SOF carrying out the raid. The lack the combat experience in modern war. All the peacetime training doesnt mean much over wartime experience. Im guessin the raid will be carried out by a mix of ICDC special forces and Marine FAST or force recon units. You need to learn mission specifics. In no way shape or form is this a mission for FAST or FR marines!

TP

Yeah, too delicate for Marine Force Recon, they'd just blow everything up. ;) We only start blowing **** up once are mission has been compromised!

TP

OOORAH!

[Vintendo]

http://glass.tvu.ac.uk/~chi/ninja/images/2swords.jpg
Heres a member of Japan's elusive secret special forces team.

[2RHPZ]

Mates, probably end of this topic, huh :

First reports: Three Japanese hostages released in Iraq (www.debka.com)

Haiw, don´t be angry! Anyway, you must admit that Europe doesn´t do enough ... everything is too slow, too much talks and politics.

[Soulhunter]

Yes, japanese media is reporting they're free.

Good! :D

[TriggerPuller]

Yes, japanese media is reporting they're free.

Good! :DThank god the only problem is they will never be the same!

TP

[Haiw]

Mates, probably end of this topic, huh :

First reports: Three Japanese hostages released in Iraq (www.debka.com)

Haiw, don´t be angry! Anyway, you must admit that Europe doesn´t do enough ... everything is too slow, too much talks and politics.
On some things, but not on all things... Yeah, they can waste a lot of time discussing bananes or the size of condoms, but so far with hostages they often reacted quickly...and deadly.

[moughoun]

Haiw,

I mean that European goverments, except UK, have no balls for any kind of action. They would rather discuss withdrawing their troops. I am living in Europe but I am very fed up with attitudes to all - wars, politic, etc. Liberals and socialists in Brusel will let EU die due to their wrong decisions. War on terror is not just a war again some fanatics - it is a war against people who hate our EU-USA civilization and want to destroy us. We must be strong and tough. We will win, I am sure ... but it needs a time and effort.
Anyway, I agree that if Japan send their SF operators to Iraq to rescue hostages they would closely cooperate with US SOFs. I don´t know if they have any unit ready to do that but even effort is right ... much better then to sit by the round table and talk bull**** to someone who doesn´t want to listen.

Well not everyone was sitting around, we might not have been in Afghanistan or Iraq but our SF were rescuing hostages in Liberia, I know not exactly bombing around Fallujah but it's a job needing doing anyway