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UkrainianAmerican
04-10-2004, 08:13 PM
The tiny minority of extremists in the Palestinian Authority turned out by the thousands yesterday to give money, weapons, and ammunition to the genocidal terror gang Hamas at their local mosques:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=721&e=7&u=/ap/20040410/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians



Thousands of Palestinians responded to Hamas’ call, with no apparent signs of intimidation from Hamas militants.

By Friday evening, many were still lined up outside Gaza mosques to give over money and jewelry.

“I give them 50 shekels ($11), and I feel so sorry because I can’t give them more,” said Khalil Hassouna, 45, a father of 12 who earns 850 shekels ($190) a month working as a night watchman.

Hamas officials on Saturday refused to say how much money they had collected, but there were reports of individual donations of up to $50,000.

The strong turnout was seen as backing for Hamas’ violent ideology and a vote of confidence that Hamas leaders would not pocket the money for themselves.

“The amount of donations raised during the campaign reflects how much support there is for Hamas among Palestinians, and how much the Palestinians support the resistance option,” Sheik Sayed Siyam, a Hamas spokesman, said in a statement posted on the group’s Web site.


What? I thought the Palestinians were all for peace.

MaDuce
04-10-2004, 08:16 PM
Hmmm HAMAS and supporters gathered together looks like a good time for a raid or a missle strike.

cut
04-10-2004, 08:17 PM
when was it a tiny minority? The social work hamas do buys them a lot of support and has done for a while.

MaDuce
04-10-2004, 08:19 PM
But then again they riase lots of cash in europe/USa thats why they aviod attack said places.

UkrainianAmerican
04-10-2004, 08:22 PM
But then again they riase lots of cash in europe/USa thats why they aviod attack said places.
FBI has been cracking down on these "charities" though.

Mark_Aspen
04-10-2004, 08:44 PM
No one ever said they weren't a legitimate representation of the Palestinian street, escpecially with the PA being as corrupt and "good ol' boy" as it is.

The flip side of the coin is, Hamas doesn't see an Israel or any other Jewish presence in that corner of the Med at the end of their rainbow. Is that an accurate reflection of most Palestinian thinking? Much as my "Red" roots (Hashomer Hatzair youth group -- The Young Guard) don't want to admit it, I think its true. Whether Israeli actions have driven them to that view, or it was always present, but sublimated, is irrelevant now. To paraphrase the late Willy Brandt, "thats the realpolitik now."

Yard Ape
04-10-2004, 09:01 PM
when was it a tiny minority? The social work hamas do buys them a lot of support and has done for a while.There will always be support as long as Hamas is prominent in providing medicin, education, and the like. They need to be displaced by an organization which does not have an evil other side. (read legitimate charities or government).

Irish_Man
04-10-2004, 09:13 PM
Don't waste a good missle !

I think Napalm would be more appropriate.

Plus, its cheaper.

cut
04-10-2004, 09:18 PM
when was it a tiny minority? The social work hamas do buys them a lot of support and has done for a while.There will always be support as long as Hamas is prominent in providing medicin, education, and the like. They need to be displaced by an organization which does not have an evil other side. (read legitimate charities or government).

agreed

cut
04-10-2004, 09:19 PM
Don't waste a good missle !

I think Napalm would be more appropriate.

Plus, its cheaper.

on kids? :D :roll:

bishop1
04-10-2004, 09:36 PM
Hmmm HAMAS and supporters gathered together looks like a good time for a raid or a missle strike.



Lol at Ma Duece, kill em all let allah sort em out

Irish_Man
04-10-2004, 09:40 PM
Well Yes.

If they are old enough to want to blow themselves up in a suicide attack - they are old enough. :)

cut
04-10-2004, 09:41 PM
Well Yes.

If they are old enough to want to blow themselves up in a suicide attack - they are old enough. :)

how can you tell from an aircraft?

SeanAshi
04-10-2004, 09:56 PM
Some less radical group needs to undermine Hamas, take them out of the picture.

Universal
04-10-2004, 10:07 PM
standing together with israel?? rofl

cut
04-10-2004, 10:10 PM
standing together with israel?? rofl

what are you trying to do? piss him off for no reason?

Universal
04-10-2004, 10:16 PM
standing together with israel?? rofl

what are you trying to do? piss him off for no reason?

I just find it funny, he's from texas, and he's standing together with israel, why?

cut
04-10-2004, 10:42 PM
why not?

Yard Ape
04-10-2004, 10:43 PM
Hmmm HAMAS and supporters gathered together looks like a good time for a raid or a missle strike.
Don't waste a good missle !

I think Napalm would be more appropriate.

Plus, its cheaper.You would only make more terrorists. Remember, this is the organisation that provides many of the institutions & social services that these people depend on. It would be seen the same as if we watched people slaughtered for giving to the United Way, the Red Cross, or UNICEF.

Hamas must be displaced by a legitimate charity before it will loose popularity.

Truthsayer
04-10-2004, 11:01 PM
Several large organisations have siezed all it's operation last months due to the increased 'security measures' put upon the region, that has upped the cost with 70% but reduced the amount of food, medecine and so on that reaches their intended target. One of the problems was ofcourse the ban on all empty crates going out from the refuge-camps.

Red Cross has argued that Israel should take responsibility over the occupied zones, like an occupational-force must under the geneva-convention and make sure there is enough food and medecine in the area.

If this was done the Hamas in these areas would have much to come with...

...or let the help-organisations back in to do their intended job.

Kilgor
04-11-2004, 12:23 AM
Well Yes.

If they are old enough to want to blow themselves up in a suicide attack - they are old enough. :)

how can you tell from an aircraft?

Easy...

anyone who runs is a suicide bomber...
anyone who stands still, is a well disciplined suicide bomber.

SeanAshi
04-11-2004, 12:43 AM
There's around 100,000 jews in Texas, I come from a jewish family and I happen to like Israel whats wrong with that?

Universal
04-11-2004, 01:34 AM
There's around 100,000 jews in Texas, I come from a jewish family and I happen to like Israel whats wrong with that?

nah, its cool if you're jewish, I didn't know, if it was coming from a christian though, that would've been wierd.

SeanAshi
04-11-2004, 01:41 AM
Actually I am a Christian, my mom and dad both born and raised Jewish, they later converted to Christianity so I was born and raised a Christian, but taught about Judaism, it was hard to understand when I was younger and as I get older alot of second guessing myself and a pain in the ass at times. But my Jewish relatives still accept and love me.

Universal
04-11-2004, 01:44 AM
Actually I am a Christian, my mom and dad both born and raised Jewish, they later converted to Christianity so I was born and raised a Christian, but taught about Judaism, it was hard to understand when I was younger and as I get older alot of second guessing myself and a pain in the ass at times.

Yeah, have you ever wondered about that?? Do you sometimes ask yourself... Am I in the wrong religion?

SeanAshi
04-11-2004, 06:12 AM
Yeah, have you ever wondered about that?? Do you sometimes ask yourself... Am I in the wrong religion?I think about it everyday..but not in the sence that one is better then the other, or one is right and the other is wrong.

big80a2
04-11-2004, 07:36 AM
There's around 100,000 jews in Texas, I come from a jewish family and I happen to like Israel whats wrong with that?

nah, its cool if you're jewish, I didn't know, if it was coming from a christian though, that would've been wierd.

So what is wierd....
If we christians had known the bible as good as we thought so, we all would support Israel (that is saying Israel and the jews, not all there policies)!!!
the jews are actually the root to the christian faith.... so if there is no jewish religion the christian is useless.

UkrainianAmerican
04-11-2004, 11:05 AM
Actually I am a Christian, my mom and dad both born and raised Jewish, they later converted to Christianity so I was born and raised a Christian, but taught about Judaism, it was hard to understand when I was younger and as I get older alot of second guessing myself and a pain in the ass at times. But my Jewish relatives still accept and love me.
Btw, technically speaking you ARE Jewish (semetic) by ethnicity, right?
If so by Israel's immigration standards, I think you are still jewish.

UkrainianAmerican
04-11-2004, 11:06 AM
There's around 100,000 jews in Texas, I come from a jewish family and I happen to like Israel whats wrong with that?

nah, its cool if you're jewish, I didn't know, if it was coming from a christian though, that would've been wierd.
Havent you ever seen those weird pro-israel commercials, sponsored by Evangelicals?

tacticalmanta
04-11-2004, 11:11 AM
Bottom line.. 80% of "Pals" support suicide bombings. 60% said they'd support them even after a peace agreement and an independant "Pal" state. The goal has always been, and will always be the destruction of Israel and the majority feels this way.

UkrainianAmerican
04-11-2004, 11:32 AM
Bottom line.. 80% of "Pals" support suicide bombings. 60% said they'd support them even after a peace agreement and an independant "Pal" state. The goal has always been, and will always be the destruction of Israel and the majority feels this way.
Thats why the Fence combined with disengagement, it probably the best bet for a better future for Israel.

usa320
04-11-2004, 11:37 AM
I think Arafat and his lame ass excuse for a "government" need to get bombed to ****less hell. Then a working government with security forces needs to be installed by the UN. Then that government needs to work on peace, starting with cracking down on Hamas. Because if they dont, we eventually will.

Universal
04-11-2004, 11:42 AM
Bottom line.. 80% of "Pals" support suicide bombings. 60% said they'd support them even after a peace agreement and an independant "Pal" state. The goal has always been, and will always be the destruction of Israel and the majority feels this way.

Israels are trying to take away their land. See you gotta look at both ways, open the other side of your brains.

Universal
04-11-2004, 11:54 AM
palestinians support hamas?? well who do u want them to support? the americans? :roll: [/quote]

tacticalmanta
04-11-2004, 11:59 AM
Their land???? What land? They never ever in the history of man hand sovereignty over any land.. They are a made-up people. Arafat is Egyptian!

IDFM203
04-11-2004, 12:01 PM
Bottom line.. 80% of "Pals" support suicide bombings. 60% said they'd support them even after a peace agreement and an independant "Pal" state. The goal has always been, and will always be the destruction of Israel and the majority feels this way.

Israels are trying to take away their land. See you gotta look at both ways, open the other side of your brains.Yeah so that is why before we went back in as a result of constant homicide bombings, we had already in the 90’s pulled OUT of every Palestinian city and town and village and they had over 95 percent full autonomy over their own lives and yet still the killings never stopped and yet still the NON acceptance of Israel never stopped and after barak offerd to pull out of basically everything, they rejected it with a war (the intifada).

Israel already pulled out and made the big efforts to pull out even more but it was all rejected and it is clear that what tacticalmanta said above is quite true!!

Yes indeed follow your own advice and open up your brains as well for once to the real realites we face as well!!

Shalom :D