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ariweiner
04-10-2004, 10:06 PM
SA-13's (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-13.htm)? How in the world are they getting those?

Coalition in Afghanistan Seizes Weapons

American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, April 10, 2004 – Coalition officials in Afghanistan today provided details on recent weapons seizures and other activities at a press briefing in the Afghan capital of Kabul.

During a cordon-and-search patrol April 7, U.S. forces found a small cache of weapons and munitions south of Khowst. Soldiers confiscated blasting caps, passports, and more than 100 7.62 mm armor-piercing and tracer rounds. Two Afghans were detained and questioned.

On April 8 southeast of Ghazni, coalition soldiers confiscated nearly 30 SA-13 guided missiles, about 400 76 mm M99 anti-tank cannon projectiles and rockets, 11 guided-missile tail sections, more than 50 S-5K-P1 57 mm rockets, more than 20 57 mm projectiles, several 122 mm projectiles, more than 5,000 fuses of various types and several 14.5 and 23 mm weapons components.

Also on April 8, a box of demolitions containing detonators and fuses to 107mm rockets was found at a bakery near the Sarobi district. In Gardez, the local police chief turned in 400 AK-47 assault rifles and several 14.5 and 23 mm anti-aircraft weapon components.

In a compound north of Deh Rawood on April 9, coalition forces found a 107 mm rocket, an anti-tank mine, wire with a battery, and propaganda materials for the Taliban and al Qaeda.

One coalition soldiers and three from the Afghan National Army were injured April 7 when they came under fire while conducting operations northeast of Geresk. The four injured soldiers were treated at Kandahar Air Field, and the coalition solider was then evacuated to a military hospital in Germany, where he is being treated for a back injury and was listed in stable condition. [/b]

to free the oppressed
04-10-2004, 11:32 PM
They probably got them when the Russians were there in the 1980's.

MaDuce
04-10-2004, 11:33 PM
You can buy thise in Chinatown

GazB
04-11-2004, 01:27 AM
You can buy thise in Chinatown

I doubt you'd be able to buy SA-13s in chinatown.

The SA-13s siezed most likely would either come from captured vehicles from the war, or more likely supplied since the war ended captured from the northern aliance.

Beowulf
04-11-2004, 02:10 AM
You can buy thise in Chinatown

I doubt you'd be able to buy SA-13s in chinatown.

The SA-13s siezed most likely would either come from captured vehicles from the war, or more likely supplied since the war ended captured from the northern aliance.

The chinese make their own version. We got a few in some of the caches we raided. They're supposedly crap anyway.

The media could have gotten it wrong, or they were there from when we were giving them to the muj to shoot down soviet helicopters.

HELEX
04-11-2004, 08:14 AM
All in all they are useless without the Vehicles.....

BlackRain
04-11-2004, 10:14 AM
It was estimated in 2002 that Iraq had +/- 125 SA-13 Missiles.

http://www.ifrance.com/ArmyReco/Russe/vehicules_missiles/SA-13/SA-13_Gopher_Line_Drawing_Russia_01.gif

usa320
04-11-2004, 11:46 AM
All in all they are useless without the Vehicles.....

No...they are useless as a SAM...but that doesnt keep Talibans from rigging them with timers or launching them from ox-carts at Coalition facilities.

As for Iraq having +\- 125 SA-13's in 2002, my guess is they have +\- 2 now.

p-)

They got raped of their SAMs by F/A-18's and A-10's last year. All their fixed and mobile SAMs are basically gone. All thats left is a couple of SA-9's and MANPADS.