Iraqi Battalion Refuses to 'Fight Iraqis'

[Lysander]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A2680-2004Apr10?language=printer

[American Patriot]

The June 30th handover should fix that little problem. We can bomb them from time to time if they start getting all dictator or fundamentalist on us.

[SeanAshi]

Damnit! Good help is hard to find these days..What if we promise them 72 virgins and eternal salvation?

[seruriermarshal]

Damnit! Good help is hard to find these days..What if we promise them 72 virgins and eternal salvation?

They call die , then let B-52 tell they what's die .

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

I heard they paid the Iraqi troops in advance to them going to fight in Falluja and only 2 showed up :roll:

[SeanAshi]

More ammo for the domocrats against President Bush.

[moughoun]

Well Iraqi soldier's have allways been more comfortable shooting unarmed civilians then someone who will fire back now haven't they.

[Yard Ape]

Damnit! Good help is hard to find these days..What if we promise them 72 virgins and eternal salvation?If we put them @ all the check point they would find that survival instinct to shoot other Iraqis when the first truck tries to run it.

[HELEX]

I will go fighting in Falludja, but I want the 72 virgins before doing that! :lol:

[mack pl]

I will go fighting in Falludja, but I want the 72 virgins before doing that! :lol:You will be dead-tired before battle ;)

[PRKL]

72 virgins? How about 72 desperate 25 years old single-mother??? ;)

[HELEX]

72 virgins? How about 72 desperate 25 years old single-mother???

I thought we were talking about to die in Combat after that, and not before?

[wulfstan]

I can see their point, i'd be reluctant to travel to say Newcastle and kill people who had exactly the same backgrounds and cultures as me. Fighting for survival is something entirely different tho.

[cheukkin]

US is an invader with unjustic purpose, and always overestimate their popularity in the world.

Bomb, money and lie can not make iraqi people kill iraqi people, people will vote with the stone and blood as you see the TV tootage.

[SerbPVO]

Exactly.

US has been offering 5 million dollars for the capture of Radovan Karadjic in Serb Republic for a couple of years now, but nobody has called.

[Ichhabe]

Exactly.

US has been offering 5 million dollars for the capture of Radovan Karadjic in Serb Republic for a couple of years now, but nobody has called.

Well, if the price is right, he might turn in himself eventually.

[SerbPVO]

Yeah, thats right :roll:

[ibstolidude]

Exactly.

US has been offering 5 million dollars for the capture of Radovan Karadjic in Serb Republic for a couple of years now, but nobody has called.

Nobody called or they have not yet caught him

2 VERY different statements - what makes you so sure nobody called and yet NATO and others were simply not able to act on the info or act quickly enough?

[Brozozo]

US is an invader with unjustic purpose, and always overestimate their popularity in the world.

Bomb, money and lie can not make iraqi people kill iraqi people, people will vote with the stone and blood as you see the TV tootage.

And the Chinese invasion of Tibet was a noble and just action on behalf of the Chinese government and people as Tibet was jeopordizing China's soveriegnty. You guys really proved to the world that monks are no match for soldiers. Tinanmen Square too, man those students were about to topple the Chinese government and way of life, next time you guys should use more force! Hell, now we know that a poorly made Chinese tank can almost run over a student.

You're pathetic...if the US is so unpopular and unjust then perhaps stop applying for US Visas and immigrating to the States. Not that many people immigrating to China despite its "superb and fair" government but everybody's flocking to the States to be opressed by the evil capitalists...kind weird, huh?

[martinexsquaddie]

I'd be happy to attack newcastle but to be honest would any one notice a massive airstrike. bomb it long enough it would end up looking like liverpool rofl :(

[GrimmyRX]

Well Iraqi soldier's have allways been more comfortable shooting unarmed civilians then someone who will fire back now haven't they.

A lot of Iraqi's signed up to fight against foreign threats, not their own people.

[Korth]

Iraq is a creation of the British empire correct?

Are not the Kurds wanting to establish a Kurdistan? What do the Sunni's and Shiites really have in common except a distaste for the non-muslim infidels? I don't think that "Iraq" is a real nation at all. It is a state created out of a former colony of the British empire and others here have pointed out that nation and state are not the same thing.

I think that Iraq, like Yugoslavia, will fall apart without a strongman to hold it together. For the US, it should be enough to have overthrown Saddam Hussien's regime. The only reason for staying is to put pressure on Syria and Iran. If so, then that is likely a good thing as both Syria and Iran support terrorist organizations.

Those who whine about "unjust invasion" have no comprehension. Saddam was a pig, only tolerable when he was a useful counterbalance to the religioous fanatics in Iran. But then he became more dangerous and had to be removed from power. That France would build a nuclear power plant for a despot like Saddam Hussien is enough to ignore their opinions on middle eastern affairs.

The situation in Iran was created by Jimmy Carter as he helped to remove the Shah of Iran from power. President Jimmy Carter did not like the Shah's human rights record, but it was the Shah that knew how to keep the religious fanatics under control. Then Carter made the situation worse by his weak responce to the takeover of the US embassy there and the taking of hostages. This really set off a whole chain of events where the Islamic militants have become more and more of a problem.

Anyway, I don't think the Arabs are ready for democracy. They will vote in an Islamic republic, not good for the West. Better that Iraq is split up into smaller, weaker states that can be played off of each other.

[mack pl]

Not only Arabs arent ready for democracy.Most of islamic states arent democratic.Im not sure is that the best way for iraq(3 independent states).What you will do with Baghdad?In capitol of iraq, living not only sunni but shiits too.If southern part of Iraq, will be some Islamic State, Iran could be a protector of them.Kurds, in northern Iraq, could trying to help theirs brothers in turkey.It will be bad for Iraq, this 3 independent states.If we dont want some problems in this place, we should build there one independent democratic state-Iraq.We must defeated shiits extremists.I hope we could do that, but its not that simple.(I hope my post is clear, sorry for mistakes).Regards.

[cheukkin]

US is an invader with unjustic purpose, and always overestimate their popularity in the world.

Bomb, money and lie can not make iraqi people kill iraqi people, people will vote with the stone and blood as you see the TV tootage.

And the Chinese invasion of Tibet was a noble and just action on behalf of the Chinese government and people as Tibet was jeopordizing China's soveriegnty. You guys really proved to the world that monks are no match for soldiers. Tinanmen Square too, man those students were about to topple the Chinese government and way of life, next time you guys should use more force! Hell, now we know that a poorly made Chinese tank can almost run over a student.

You're pathetic...if the US is so unpopular and unjust then perhaps stop applying for US Visas and immigrating to the States. Not that many people immigrating to China despite its "superb and fair" government but everybody's flocking to the States to be opressed by the evil capitalists...kind weird, huh?

Your argement is irrellevant: Two wong does not make one right!
Chinese governemtn was wrong to kill student, But does not mean US can shoot iraqi in Hundreds, since US have no right occupy other country land, , and determine what governemnt they want. Also Tibet is part of China, please check the histroy book of China !! At the end Don't you know that America had invaded CHina and occupied Paking and forbidden City almost hundred year ago and killed thousand of chinese people!! that was evil!!!

[Yard Ape]

Better that Iraq is split up into smaller, weaker states that can be played off of each other.These states would not last long next to thier neighbours. I could see some being annexed/invaded fairly quickly. With out access to a sea, the norther states could run into some financial hardships aswell.

What about a federal state? There could be distince Sunni, Shiite, and Kurd provinces. With consititutional protection, each province would have authority over those things seen as "cultural" (health, education, family, social-nets, holidays, etc).

[stuntman]

At the end Don't you know that America had invaded CHina and occupied Paking and forbidden City almost hundred year ago and killed thousand of chinese people!! that was evil!!!

Your a idiot? If your talking about the boxer rebelion then it was self defence and was aloud by your Empress at the time, because of anti foriegn feelings of the current amount of capita coming in from other nations! The "Boxers" were a rebel faction that gained lots of ground in civil war that China had. Then they led siege to forbidden city and then started to shell Most Foriegn embassies with in the city. Then a multinational force that included
The foreign sailors and marines included: 35 Austrians, 82 British, 48 French, 51 Germans, 25 Japanese, 81 Russians, and 29 Italians. First Lt. J. R. Lindsey to Maj. Gen. Adna R. Chaffee, Annual Reports of the War Department, Fiscal Year Ended June 30, 1901, Vol. 1, pt. 6, pp. 454-459. Heinl, Soldiers of the Sea, p. 130.
led by Capt. John T. Myers, USMC started to quell the rebelion!
Please don't confuse content my commie friend!
Sourcehttp://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/winter_1999_boxer_rebellion_1.html

[usa320]

Here go the CHinese blamming us for their people getting taken hostage in Iraq, like Spaniards blamed us when al Queda attacked them.

Its not Americas Fault, its Not Bush's fault. Its notthe zionist's fault.

Its the terrorists fault and only their fault.