US Marines counter ambush a group of Insurgents

[Dronetek]

US Marines in Fallujah chase down an insurgent team that was trying to ambush another Marine team.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f04b862bf (http://media.putfile.com/marines-counter-ambush-insurgents-)

Warning, Video shows a man being shot and lots of bad language

[Hiroshima]

MWAHAHAHAHAAHA! Excellent!

[D-gin]

Holy hell Dronetek That is an intense video, It's like hot pursuit but in Iraq.....Cheers dude.:)

[FozzieBear]

damn thats one hardcore video dude, needs a graphic warning no? but yeah rare video nice post dude.

[bush2bush]

it is attack on marines??

[Hiroshima]

umm.. no, it's an attack of Marines on Insurgents who were going to attack other Marines.

[Bohemoth]

Wow, did they get the other two insurgents, too?
I need more of those get some payback vids.

[Big Lebowski]

damn thats some goood shyte..

Wow, did they get the other two insurgents, too?
looked like the other 3 got away

[Digital Marine]

Crap! that was intense!

[AussieJohnDoe]

Holy ****, that's intense.

[Chimera]

[QUOTE=FozzieBear;2040727]damn thats one hardcore video dude, needs a graphic warning no?[QUOTE]

For what reason? nothing awfully horrible in this vid.

[Dronetek]

damn thats one hardcore video dude, needs a graphic warning no? but yeah rare video nice post dude.

There is no blood or gore, so I didnt think it needed one.

[Zoomie]

"We got the Muthafukers sir!!"
Hahaha! Classic! woot

[Ol' Bob]

reminds me of that show Wildest Police Chases, with balls....... GET SOME

[Capt. Miller]

Reminds me more of cops and robbers than soldiers job to chase down the bad guys.

Excellent video anyway!

[saigonsmuggler]

very nice work by these Marines.

Nice vid Dronetek!

[AlexNenadic]

Reminds me more of cops and robbers than soldiers job to chase down the bad guys.



First, they are Marines. Second, its their job to "close with and destroy the enemy". If that means chasing them in a Humvee, so be it.

That is a kickass video Dronetek

[joedirt]

great video but those guys could have easily gotten in a bad situation. especially the part with "i dont know where we are i think 4 blocks"

[Superking]

Reminds me more of cops and robbers than soldiers job to chase down the bad guys.

Excellent video anyway!

And the insurgency is more along the lines of criminal gangs so your observation is about right.

Intense!

[CG51]

Intense video, thanks!

[Count Lippe]

I don't know... I haven't seen the insurgents before they were directly in front of the Marine vehicle. They could have been random civilians running away because they don't want to get into a firefight... Only the Marines will know 100%...

[Superking]

I don't know... I haven't seen the insurgents before they were directly in front of the Marine vehicle. They could have been random civilians running away because they don't want to get into a firefight... Only the Marines will know 100%...

The insurgents might be up for an reenactment for you, shy 1 or 2 of the original cast.

[Pandeh]

Was the guy lying on the ground shot?

[Superking]

Was the guy lying on the ground shot?

I think he got there by being shot, it looked like another fell against on of the cars and then got up....might just have tripped.

[PanzerMaster]

This is the most intense vid I had seen on the war in Iraq (including fighting, beheading and bombing).

But I want to ask a question to some military members of this forum.

I think the vid portrayed a very dangerous situation. It is a standard practice that a vehicle speeds to chase enemy? What happened if there is another ambush ready to engage the lonely vehicle?

I know that in the vid we cannot have the big picture (maybe there are other friendly forces around), but the idea of a lonely (or two) vehicle separated from the rest of the force is pretty scary.

Good work marines. I hope the insurgent wasn't killed.............

.........deads don't talks, infos are precious!!! p-)

[Gurdil]

did they catch all 3 of them?

[Big Lebowski]

there where 4 and it looked like they got 1 of them.. the guy laying on the ground bleeding..

[Roanoke]

"I know. I know. I got him."

"Right here right here!"

"I know! Everybody calm down, I got it."

"Get some! GET SOME!"

"Get some!"

"Get some! Get some!

[Silverdragon]

I don't know... I haven't seen the insurgents before they were directly in front of the Marine vehicle. They could have been random civilians running away because they don't want to get into a firefight... Only the Marines will know 100%...


I dunno about random civilians...I did hear what sounded like a bullet plinking off the humvee armor...i guess they still could be but it seems like from the video somone was shooting at the chasing humvee. but, i dont know....i wasnt there.

[Justin]

Excellent Video. Intense stuff. Like it.

[3rdMillhouse]

****, that's frickin intense. Good thing they killed at least one.

[Sparky2129]

**** YEAH! That was an awesome video! Nice post

[AussieJohnDoe]

The insurgents might be up for an reenactment for you, shy 1 or 2 of the original cast.

That's sick. :lol:

[Superking]

That's sick. :lol:

I´ve had an class 10 toothache for exactly one week now, sleept 3-4 hrs a night, lost 6 lbs and have developed a mean streak.

[zulu261]

"Slow the **** down" "Roger that sir."

Awesome video.

[dacanadianbomb]

Was the guy lying on the ground shot?

fictional joke underneath
"Private, why is that insurgent lying on the ground bleeding ????!!!!

Well Sir, Me Shooting him may have had something to do with it, but one can never be sure , Sir."

[Mirror]

RTB for a debrief with cocktails.

[spoiledEgg]

you rock Dronetek

[J4k3]

I know they are pumpe up but if there Sgt would calm them down they could work alot better. Awsome Vid Go Marines !

OORAH!!!

[bangla]

video of the week

[makavelli]

hwaaa..!!
great find...
love those vidssssss...

[CPLHUNTER]

Great video Dronetek!...motivating sh1t!

[SBL]

Dronetek delivers. Great vid, man.

[Dronetek]

I dunno about random civilians...I did hear what sounded like a bullet plinking off the humvee armor...i guess they still could be but it seems like from the video somone was shooting at the chasing humvee. but, i dont know....i wasnt there.

Yup, at the very begining you can hear rounds hit the hummvee and the driver says, "We have contact".

[Glimmen]

Seems like the 50. is jammed

And by the way: Hello! My first post! (I´v been watching you..p-) )

[Silent 6]

Excellent video. I would tag a graphic warning...language alone, just to be safe.

[british-airborne]

that was amazing the one in black was crawling away they should have shot him more.all the get some get some has now made me want to watch full metal jacket

[Upfrontreporting]

Excellent video. I would tag a graphic warning...language alone, just to be safe.


If tagging a video like this for being graphic, based on the language, you need a reality check. In a video where people are being killed, language shouldn't be what worries you the most (regardless of it being insurgents getting killed).

Dronetek, extreme video. Interesting though, you get a good sense of the adrenalin rushing through the marines.

[BCE_CYKU]

damn thats some goood shyte..

looked like the other 3 got away

i think u mean the third one, in the white shirt, looks like he got away, you can see the white shirt disappearing in the distance

but an awesome video, never seen anything like it

[socom6]

That was awesome! Just wished they got them all. Thanks Dronetek. :)

[Saint]

downloadable?

[Superking]

Seems like the 50. is jammed

And by the way: Hello! My first post! (I´v been watching you..p-) )

Välkommen svenne!:)

[Big Lebowski]

i think u mean the third one, in the white shirt, looks like he got away, you can see the white shirt disappearing in the distance

nope, there are 4 guys who bails the car. 3 run right and 1 left, the marines follow the 3 and shot one, the other 2 disappear in the distance.
the guy who tripped behind the white car is a civi.

[Superking]

nope, there are 4 guys who bails the car. 3 run right and 1 left, the marines follow the 3 and shot one, the other 2 disappear in the distance.
the guy who tripped behind the white car is a civi.

With the possibility of 1 or 3 GSW´s at the ER, if the car got hit during the chase.

Sorry, just being an optimist....if it can be called that.

[saintM]

Good find Dronetek - thanks for sharing!

[Cpt. Spaulding]

Fvck yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ist great to see those ****ers die

There is a billion of IED, Sniper or RPG attacks videos around the web, and I want more of this.

And watch a ****ing terrorist die isnt sick!!!!

God Bless Coalition Forces X1000000000000000000000

[Klepto]

Nice vid. .

[3rdMillhouse]

There should be more footage of Iraqi terrorist being shot to death. To counterweight thei propaganda.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Superb video, sir! Thanks!

[Dronetek]

There should be more footage of Iraqi terrorist being shot to death. To counterweight thei propaganda.

Yeah, I wish. However, video like this is a VERY rare thing to come by. Trust me.

[Kabzior]

go my adrenaline flowing ;) great vid!

[The Arab Question]

Great job marines---god bless all soldiers in the sandbox---good video

[Fade]

Rock out with your **** out!

[Kenguru]

Great vid! They have attitude.

[wormie]

wow, this is the first time i've seen a video with both marines and insurgents fighting in the same frame, both visable.

[bluffcove]

Did they once radio their position back up the chain?
or relate their position to other units?

That 3 speed auto humvee was damn slow I could have outrun it on a pushbike - check my e-*****!

[szr]

check my e-*****!That's a ******, dude!

[Fargin]

From a liberal standpoint, this video ****ing rocked!

[H3]

Well done that man .......... little less flapping in the back there !

[Jk=SWE=]

Adrenaline! But i still think that the Marines act a bit unprofessional. Whit their langugue, "mother****ers" and "get some get some" they have probably watcht to many war movies.....

And run in fron of the car, in the line of fire to a man that might be a suicide bomber. Very stupid.... But it´s probably the adrenaline.

[Noob Brit]

woot Great find Dronetek

[ShadowCrow]

Adrenaline! But i still think that the Marines act a bit unprofessional. Whit their langugue, "mother****ers" and "get some get some" they have probably watcht to many war movies.....

And run in fron of the car, in the line of fire to a man that might be a suicide bomber. Very stupid.... But it´s probably the adrenaline.

I was thinking about both those things also, and explained it to myself with adrenaline and "heat of the moment".

[bluffcove]

- or poor drills.

[Aerosoul]

Adrenaline! But i still think that the Marines act a bit unprofessional. Whit their langugue, "mother****ers" and "get some get some" they have probably watcht to many war movies.....

And run in fron of the car, in the line of fire to a man that might be a suicide bomber. Very stupid.... But it´s probably the adrenaline.
Using foul language in the military is unprofessional? When being shot at by the enemy?
"Get some" as encouragement to your buddies to fight and kill in the heat of the moment is unprofessional?

Maybe they were actling like that because they were in contact with a real enemy, and it had nothing to do with watching too many Jerry Bruckheimer films.

[Hypno85]

Adrenaline for sure. Thanks for the video Dronetek! Was i the only one saying get them get them?

[rosscoliosis]

Things like, "Get some!" cursing, and being gung-ho in general are things that they start instilling in you the moment you arrive on depot for USMC boot camp. ;)
What do you expect? "Ok guys,those insurgents are shooting at us. So, let us now begin pursuing them. You may shoot back at them if you think you need to..."? Haha

GREAT FIND, DRONETEK! This definitely ranks as one of the most intense videos to come out of Iraq.

[VOD]

SO did they get one or two? Its hard to tell what happens to the guy with the white shirt running down the street.

Anyways, that video was pretty ****ing intense. Hell, it got my adrenaline flowing and im just sitting here.

BTW, how fast can those armored HUMVEEs go? It seemed like they were hauling some ass.

[Närskydd]

Hell yeah! But sure a bit hasty. Could just as well have been an ambush waiting for them at that intersection. Good thing they got one of'em though.
But I'm a bit surpriced. If you have the opp. to attack first you really should overwhelm your opponent with lead and what not. Instead they got persued and knocked down. Hmm...strange...stupid....amatuers.

[Divine]

What an adrenalinerush... Great job confronting them!

[Spets06]

that is one awesome video - when he said the 50. was jammed i was horrified that they would get away!

far out talk about pressure...nice

[phoilme]

http://www.spscriptorium.com/Treats/Spottswoode.jpg"Good job team, Now back to base for debriefing and coctails."

[spoiledEgg]

I really love it how some of you people who probably never served or never even seen a gun before, like to criticize soldiers like "he shouldn't have done that" or "if that was me...."

Do us all a favour and keep these ignorant things to yourselves. :roll:

[n.ignomo]

Now, i must say that i'm wondering where they saw insurgents at the beginning. Because this is hell of a chase they made to get to the road. By the way did you notice, not even one car at the beginning and then paf a road full or cars where the NCO start to yell at the driver to slow down.
What i can tell you is than shooting at a running dude while on a moving vehicule is pretty tough, and they manage to do it. But at the end, i wouldn't have stay there asking where are we, because if the insurgents had turned back...

[Gibby]

gotta love runners. :)

[Pook2]

Now, i must say that i'm wondering where they saw insurgents at the beginning. Because this is hell of a chase they made to get to the road. By the way did you notice, not even one car at the beginning and then paf a road full or cars where the NCO start to yell at the driver to slow down.
What i can tell you is than shooting at a running dude while on a moving vehicule is pretty tough, and they manage to do it. But at the end, i wouldn't have stay there asking where are we, because if the insurgents had turned back...


I really love it how some of you people who probably never served or never even seen a gun before, like to criticize soldiers like "he shouldn't have done that" or "if that was me...."

Do us all a favour and keep these ignorant things to yourselves. :roll:

Hmmmmmm...

[Gibby]

How do I DL?

[LaoSexMachine]

nice vid.

Save the linck.

[Klatuu]

Good Job Marines!!!

Great Video (this happened in back April?).

For those of you looking at this like you look at video from the same angle through the front windshield of a cop car...Uh uh, NO. Wrong answer.

For a cop, the person he's chasing down is most likely a fellow citizen, and in a country like the USA that citizen is innocent of any crime until he gets his day in court. As long as he doesn't try to kill the cop, the cop can't try to kill him.

In a cop chase there is a very similar emotional response at work as one sees here; the "chase it down and kill it" response. However, in cops that final measure of instinct, where the predator buries his fangs into his prey, is trained OUT.

In combat troops, it's trained IN.

There's going to be killing at the end of this chase, not an arrest. They might like to get these guys alive for questioning, but that's completely secondary, unlike with the police.

"...If you ladies leave my island, if you survive recruit training, you will be a weapon. You will be a minister of death praying for war.
Gunny Hartman

[Dronetek]

How do I DL?

You don't.

However, you can save it as an FLV using this:
http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube.php

[cetnik]

US Marines in Fallujah chase down an insurgent team that was trying to ambush another Marine team.
http://www.youtube.com/v/3dtRJf5vo0c



http://youtube.com/watch?v=3dtRJf5vo0c

Warning, Video shows a man being shot and lots of bad language


HELL YEAH THAT WAS A SICK VIDEO!!! KILL! KILL! KILL! MURDER! MURDER! MURDER!:) .No seriously that was intense thanks for the vid.

[tikyocui]

Can be use as training tool! Excellent!

[WhiskeyTango]

gotta love runners. :)

"Anybody who runs is a VC. Anybody who stands still is a well-disciplined VC."

[martyrad]

"use the 16! use the 16! get the M16 up there!! i cant see it! where the fcuk!?!"
hehe... nice vid... get some marines!

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

was anyone else thinking "run that motherf*cker over" when that guy was shot and went to the ground...or am i one sick S.O.B.? haha i dunno what "geneva" would think of that...

[Ratamacue]

SO did they get one or two? Its hard to tell what happens to the guy with the white shirt running down the street.If you watch closely, it looks like two of them went down together right in front of the humvee.

[jeffe]

Even in the emotion of the moment, I hope the Marines keep their situational awareness. If in the wrong neighborhood, a hasty ambush could be set up for them by insurgents.

[ZoneOne]

There is no blood or gore, so I didnt think it needed one.

...Just someone dying


But wouldn't you consider someone hanging themselves graphic - even though there might not be blood or gore?


was anyone else thinking "run that motherf*cker over" when that guy was shot and went to the ground...or am i one sick S.O.B.? haha i dunno what "geneva" would think of that...

I agree with you wether it's sick or not - run that guy over and use your ammunition for the other bastards.


____________

Anyone find a way to download it ?

[Tabak]

i saw this video of an insurgent trying to fire an rpg round at a coalition force's position one time, dumb*ss exposed himself and was shot in the head by m16 fire... cant find that video tho..


anywayz, superb video....

[Natemo]

ya in any of the situations it can be hard to not yell "shoot the mother ****er " or somting that cant be used for the situation.....But at the same time you have to keep in mind your not stopping from somone hearing somthing more improtant by yelling somthing over and over again.

[Pandy]

Adrenaline! But i still think that the Marines act a bit unprofessional. Whit their langugue, "mother****ers" and "get some get some" they have probably watcht to many war movies.....

And run in fron of the car, in the line of fire to a man that might be a suicide bomber. Very stupid.... But it´s probably the adrenaline.

Damnit boy, they're Marines! They're trained to this crazy ****, **** you most likely never do yourself.


Even in the emotion of the moment, I hope the Marines keep their situational awareness. If in the wrong neighborhood, a hasty ambush could be set up for them by insurgents.

That is true. But how many times have Marines been ambushed so far? Lots, they know what to do when they're ambushed.

[the_recruit]

intense. . . wow. good vid

[BadKarma26]

They wouldve gotten all 4 with a CSW like a 240 or a MK19. 1 is better than none I guess

[FozzieBear]

They wouldve gotten all 4 with a CSW like a 240 or a MK19. 1 is better than none I guess

yeah but the M2 on the HMMWV jammed, that why they were screaming get a 16 up there a MK19 wouldnt have even detonated at that range? im not sure though.

[BadKarma26]

yeah but the M2 on the HMMWV jammed, that why they were screaming get a 16 up there a MK19 wouldnt have even detonated at that range? im not sure though.

That sucks their 50 was jammed. Yah they were well more than 20 meters away (approx distance the 40 mike mike takes to arm)

[BadKarma26]

Damn the more I watch the video the more I wish they had killed them all. still, good **** marines. ballsy

[FozzieBear]

That sucks their 50 was jammed. Yah they were well more than 20 meters away (approx distance the 40 mike mike takes to arm)

yeah when they were in the car, i spose 2 rounds from a mk19 would have stopped the car in its tracks, but then again if the 50 hadnt jammed it would have done the same.

[shocker1]

Man I watched that atleast a dozen times now. One of the most intense vids I have seen from Iraq. Give em Hell and stay safe.

[kamarian]

F^cking outstanding vid! my heart is still racing!

[LaoSexMachine]

Adrenaline! But i still think that the Marines act a bit unprofessional. Whit their langugue, "mother****ers" and "get some get some" they have probably watcht to many war movies.....

And run in fron of the car, in the line of fire to a man that might be a suicide bomber. Very stupid.... But it´s probably the adrenaline.



Get the fvck outta here!!!

[ZoneOne]

yeah but the M2 on the HMMWV jammed, that why they were screaming get a 16 up there a MK19 wouldnt have even detonated at that range? im not sure though.

From Wikipedia,
The Mk 19 is able to lob its grenade at a maximum distance of 2.2km, though its effective range is about 1 mile (1.6 km). The nearest safe distance to launch the grenade is 75 meters.

[BadKarma26]

From Wikipedia,
The Mk 19 is able to lob its grenade at a maximum distance of 2.2km, though its effective range is about 1 mile (1.6 km). The nearest safe distance to launch the grenade is 75 meters.

75 meters my ass...thats almost 250 feet.

I personally have shot at **** with the Mk19 at closer than 100 feet and had no shrapnel hit the vehicle or anything near us

[Dronetek]

I'd also like to point out the Sgt yelling, "Use the 16s, use the 16's!” Apparently, that’s because the .50 cal is forbidden against infantry. So, this is a good example of US Marines abiding by the Geneva conventions.

[Ratamacue]

I'd also like to point out the Sgt yelling, "Use the 16s, use the 16's!” Apparently, that’s because the .50 cal is forbidden against infantry. So, this is a good example of US Marines abiding by the Geneva conventions.No, he told him to use an M16 because the .50 was jammed.

[Dronetek]

No, he told him to use an M16 because the .50 was jammed.

Well, this is what I was told by a couple vets.

[Onslaught]

Nicely pointed out Dronetek, but I'm sure they wouldn't give a sh*t bout the Hague/Geneva Convention when they're main goal is to drop the baddies. The other side certainly don't abide by those rules either. Anyway, sweet and rare video. Thanks.

[Ratamacue]

Well, this is what I was told by a couple vets.Urban legend. There is no provision in the Hague or Geneva conventions banning use of .50cal ammunition against personnel.

[Dronetek]

Urban legend. There is no provision in the Hague or Geneva conventions banning use of .50cal ammunition against personnel.

Isnt it part of the Law of armed conflict though?

[towel]

Good post.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Well, this is what I was told by a couple vets.

IIRC, the Hague conventions dealt with weapons. And I'm not sure if it restricts use the .50 against personnel or not.

Edit: what Ratamacue said.


Anyway we had a thread on it a few months back...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84272

Also: http://dorkafork.com/blog/?p=104
(don't know anything about the source)

[FozzieBear]

the hague conventions state that a weapon must not cause undue suffering to enemy personnel or something along those lines never mentions any specific weapon i didnt think.

[22.5degrees]

Lets say for example the M2 HB was banned. How does it cause undue suffering? I'll take the 50 over a 5.56 anyday. Slim chance of survival with the 50. Hell, I'll take a direct hit from an Abrams main gun. No pain, no suffering.

Regardless of "law" you use what's at hand, and face the music(if any) after. I'd sooner be judged by 12 than carried by six.

22.5

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Nicely pointed out Dronetek, but I'm sure they wouldn't give a sh*t bout the Hague/Geneva Convention when they're main goal is to drop the baddies. The other side certainly don't abide by those rules either. Anyway, sweet and rare video. Thanks.

Actually, I have the impression that we have many, many lawyers in use by the military. Wonderful, eh!

[Hispeed1]

When you're in the heat of battle and under heavy fire, you grab what can and return fire. Or wait, let's stop and look this up in the giant Hague/Geneva Convention handbook and see, hmmm?

[LaoSexMachine]

He clearly says "weapon's jammed". That's when the other Marines said "use the 16". Besides no one is gonna get NJPed or charge with war crimes for using a .50.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Lets say for example the M2 HB was banned. How does it cause undue suffering? I'll take the 50 over a 5.56 anyday. Slim chance of survival with the 50. Hell, I'll take a direct hit from an Abrams main gun. No pain, no suffering.

Regardless of "law" you use what's at hand, and face the music(if any) after. I'd sooner be judged by 12 than carried by six.

22.5
Excellent!

Sounds like there's some confusion amongst the ranks, if people are asserting that some soldiers and former soldiers are uncertain about when they can use a heavy weapon like the .50 against enemy combatants.

I'd be a bit worried about serving with anybody who has doubts about using the .50 against an attacker.

I don't see how use against personnel can be prohibited, what with so many vehicle with gun cradles that mount the .50; humvee, trucks, etc

[Upfrontreporting]

I'd also like to point out the Sgt yelling, "Use the 16s, use the 16's!” Apparently, that’s because the .50 cal is forbidden against infantry. So, this is a good example of US Marines abiding by the Geneva conventions.


No, no, no, it is perfectly legal to use .50 against personel (ball, etc.), however there are certain types of ammo that not allowed to use against personel (can't remember which of the top of my head).

[Tacony]

The M2 is not banned. We used it against softies plenty of times. Plenty of other "law abiding" counties use it on softies. I kinda also didn't like that they gave chase. It makes for a cool video but, so many things could of went wrong. When we would setup checkpoints we would box off AO. So maybe they had other checkpoints setup so they could give chase. I just don't know the situation as others don't. About the yelling it's adrenaline and feeding off each other, yous sure wouldn't liked to be around us over there ha. The humvee is a top heavy ****er with the up armor kits. I've seen a few rolled humvees over there. The problem is the humvee fleets were up armored but, they didn't install other upgrades to deal with the weight. Engine and tranny is stressed the shocks aren't upgraded to deal with the extra load.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

The M2 is not banned. We used it against softies plenty of times. Plenty of other "law abiding" counties use it on softies.
Excellent! I knew Black Hawk Down couldn't be wrong!




The humvee is a top heavy ****er with the up armor kits. I've seen a few rolled humvees over there. The problem is the humvee fleets were up armored but, they didn't install other upgrades to deal with the weight. Engine and tranny is stressed the shocks aren't upgraded to deal with the extra load.Aren't there some variants of the humvee designed for carrying extra heavy loads? Seems like I've seem some Avenger units modified for convoy duty.

Why don't we see more armored vehicles like the Cougar and ASV?

[~center~]

:) Drone you rock man!!!

Semper Fi

[demotivater]

I kinda also didn't like that they gave chase. It makes for a cool video but, so many things could of went wrong.
I agree. Could have been real bad news, especially with a jammed 50

[Jippo]

No, no, no, it is perfectly legal to use .50 against personel (ball, etc.), however there are certain types of ammo that not allowed to use against personel (can't remember which of the top of my head).

Exploding or expanding rounds below 20mm (if I recall correctly). Above that it is ok with anything (flechettes have been argued though), and below that FMJ, AP, API, Tracer, actually anything but HP and HE.

Even HP is quite commonly accepted in certain forms in sniper weapons, U.S. uses them and I've seen some Lapua Scenar's used elsewhere.


-jippo

[Jk=SWE=]

Get the fvck outta here!!!

Why are you saying that? I ám only speaking whats on my mind when i see the video, and think this a place on the internet where whe can help eatch other whit hints, and suggestions so that we all have a better chance of coming home alive and in on piece.

But if you can´t take what i wrote in the right way, write somtheing better then what you just wrote. :|

[Superking]

Why are you saying that? I ám only speaking whats on my mind when i see the video, and think this a place on the internet where whe can help eatch other whit hints, and suggestions so that we all have a better chance of coming home alive and in on piece.

But if you can´t take what i wrote in the right way, write somtheing better then what you just wrote. :|

I belive he was answering you in a true Marine fashion :)

[Weasel]

I always thought it is a cliché but americans really seem to swear so much. :)

[Vendetta]

while i have an unquestionable respect for all soldiers everywhere each clip i see seems to show the US army in a very un professional light, sorry if i am offending but it is what i see.

[n.ignomo]

Too bad they didn't shoot all of them. Because 4 insurgents dead means at least a few ambushes more....this is why they chase em down, as everybody would.

[Beer Monster]

I'd also like to point out the Sgt yelling, "Use the 16s, use the 16's!” Apparently, that’s because the .50 cal is forbidden against infantry. So, this is a good example of US Marines abiding by the Geneva conventions.

............. just thought I'd point out that (I think) the MP's in your other video (Army MPs defend their base from insurgent attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4nC8rmdCcg&mode=related&search=)) are using a .50 cal??

Also plenty of footage of 3 Para in Sangin using the .50 for their roof top.

[Count Lippe]

I dunno about random civilians...I did hear what sounded like a bullet plinking off the humvee armor...i guess they still could be but it seems like from the video somone was shooting at the chasing humvee. but, i dont know....i wasnt there.

I know they were shot at, but the camera doesn't show those who attacked the HUMMVEE. Some people might turn this video into a propaganda tool against the US, saying they shot random civilians. We don't get the complete picture, I guess that's why most of these videos stay in the closet...

[daily666]

But you can see the dust in front of the humvee (prolly from a car) and than when they reach the wider road you can see the suspects running away from the black car (doors are open!) and one of them is shot, it really looks like a car chase at first.

[Dronetek]

while i have an unquestionable respect for all soldiers everywhere each clip i see seems to show the US army in a very un professional light, sorry if i am offending but it is what i see.

You dont know what youre talking about. What exactly is unproffesional? Have you ever been in combat?

[n.ignomo]

You know, these dudes are being shot at many times before....there aren't killers when back home. There are soldiers, fighting other soldiers.

[bluffcove]

YOu see the tail of the brown car dissappear around the third corner.

It happens jsut after the driver breaks off radioing in his position to tell his gunner he knows the route.

[Hiroshima]

You dont know what youre talking about. What exactly is unproffesional? Have you ever been in combat?

I think he's talking about the amount of cursing involved...

[SBL]

while i have an unquestionable respect for all soldiers everywhere each clip i see seems to show the US army in a very un professional light, sorry if i am offending but it is what i see.


You're right. They ought to be much more robotic.

[KaceCoyote]

I think he's talking about the amount of cursing involved...

Yes because professional soldiers dont curse. Several folks have said they thought it a bad idea, yaknow without us having a better view its entirely possible they werent alone. They may have had another HUMVEE right behind them, who we couldnt hear firing because the lead chase vehicle was in the way.

[Hiroshima]

Hey, I'm just guessing....

[gear_monkey]

great vid!

I tell you what........you bunch of second rate armchair "military experts" who think you can judge an entire engagement and understand exactly what is going on and who made mistakes from a 30-60 sec. video clip need a serious head slap.:bash:

99.9% of you have NO military or COMBAT experience and therefore need to keep your uneducated thoughts to yourself......you offend sound military tactics and more importantly you offend the brave men and woman who almost without exception perform thier duties flawlessly.

Sorry for the rant but reading all those replies to this video got my blood boiling. I'll take a breath and calm down now.

[dunkin]

Excellent vid!!!

"GET SOME! GET SOME!"

or

"Slow down let me out!"

[Echo300]

Nice vid, Dronetek!!! :)

[Hawk of prairie]

Jeez!They are cool!well done!
This clap should be used for English education!

[BadKarma26]

while i have an unquestionable respect for all soldiers everywhere each clip i see seems to show the US army in a very un professional light, sorry if i am offending but it is what i see.

theyre MC not Army

[Saranof]

99.9% of you have NO military or COMBAT experience and therefore need to keep your uneducated thoughts to yourself......you offend sound military tactics and more importantly you offend the brave men and woman who almost without exception perform thier duties flawlessly.


Look, loads more people here have military experiance, having it does not mean you can't have a different opinion to what went on in the video.

[KaceCoyote]

Look, loads more people here have military experiance, having it does not mean you can't have a different opinion to what went on in the video.

Tons of people have far more words than sense it would seem.

[Argyll]

Its not easy shooting from a moving vehicle either, and especially around Fallujah.......I can vouch for this !!!

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

Its not easy shooting from a moving vehicle either, and especially around Fallujah.......I can vouch for this !!!

yeah and wasting civies is not very good for USMC PR

[Ironsight06]

Cool video. Kinda reminds me of South African COIN operations.

[Saranof]

Tons of people have far more words than sense it would seem.

That's kinda the norm on this board

[Dronetek]

Tons of people have far more words than sense it would seem.

Welcome to the internet!

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

Welcome to the internet!

inter...what?

[Vendetta]

what i was getting at is they way the americans treat the iraqies like ****, and really that is what makes them so hated there one clip where they apprehend these men, they have 6-8 soldiers abusing them bound and told to shut the **** up etc, now i realise these people have the toughest job in the world but really be a professional, dont sink to the same level as your enemy they may have killed your mates, dosent mean you loose focus, dosent mean when ever a big bomb goes off you cheer and shreik, etc, mabey im beating my own weird track here, but when troops play ride of the valkeries in the hummer around the streets you know something is wrong.

and also that guy they crumped in that video did not have a weapon, admittialy we did not see the whole vid, but people can get scared and run! he didnt have a weapon therefore a noncom, treat the enemy with respect.

[0311dog]

Are you going to take the chance that the guys you're pursuing, who incidentally just tried to ambush your fellow Marines, aren't armed? You're after potentially armed insurgents who could turn on you, during the foot pursuit, with a weapon at any time. Welcome to real world combat and firefights. It's not pretty and when the sh*t hits the fan most guys in combat aren't using the Queen's English. Have you ever had to ride around a place where you could be ambushed at any given moment. Let me tell ya, it sucks. This is war, not hide and seek.

[gear_monkey]

what i was getting at is they way the americans treat the iraqies like ****, and really that is what makes them so hated there one clip where they apprehend these men, they have 6-8 soldiers abusing them bound and told to shut the **** up etc, now i realise these people have the toughest job in the world but really be a professional, dont sink to the same level as your enemy they may have killed your mates, dosent mean you loose focus, dosent mean when ever a big bomb goes off you cheer and shreik, etc, mabey im beating my own weird track here, but when troops play ride of the valkeries in the hummer around the streets you know something is wrong.

and also that guy they crumped in that video did not have a weapon, admittialy we did not see the whole vid, but people can get scared and run! he didnt have a weapon therefore a noncom, treat the enemy with respect.

tell us what your experience level with real life combat is.....I have none, therefore I don't pretend to give advice on how to speak or act to those who are performing under stresses and dangers I can't begin to imagine.

[Gibby]

whenever adrenaline is running high its difficult to control your nerves, your breathing,etc.

You have all had a "rush" before. So just imagine that x10. You get used to it the more time you have to get used to it, but it never goes away.

Also some people handle it differently. Some might start popping off at the mouth like that one guy you can hear. Some might get eerily quiet and introspective. The adrenaline is still flowing in the hardened vet, he just knows how to control it. Some come in knowing how to control it.

Having said that, I see nothing wrong with what was done. They pursued suspects who engaged them and will engage them again given the chance. One was shot, perhaps he died, probably not unless they let him bleed out, which is wrong.

You have to remember though. We would haul guys in and have them back out in the streets months later, doing it all over again. It gets kinda old. It really sucks when that same dude kills one of your guys too.

[ctcboy]

That was awesome. I've read that chasing guys dow like that is not really uncommon in Iraq. I havent been there so i dont know. Anybody with first hand experience know if this is the case?

[stuntman]

It's funny how some are offended by the USMC's vulgarity but yet don't mind when US and coalition military personel are shoot at. Lets keep things into perspective. Those men (real men) have been winning wars for more then 200years for these United States and keeping the free world safe for more then 60. So I say stop being a little girl about ruff housing some criminals and shut up and enjoy your ikea furniture or your shrimps on a barbi and just be nice!

[Vendetta]

tell us what your experience level with real life combat is.....I have none, therefore I don't pretend to give advice on how to speak or act to those who are performing under stresses and dangers I can't begin to imagine.

While not on the scale of iraq i have been on the two way rifle range, and this was just my opinion that you dont win hearts and minds by treating every single suspect like ****, you dont win a war by playing loud ass music and letting everyone around know you are there. again i have respect for all troops they have the toughest jobs in the world, especially on deployment it just seems the us is making unnesssary damage on itself, for want of training and dicipline.

while gibby does raise a good point and i appreciate that.

[PanzerMaster]

Sorry for this very stupid question, I'm not a native english speaker: but what is the meaning of "Get Some"?

I think it has a slang meaning because I don't sense vulgarity or foul language if I translate literally in italian.

Thanks

[bluffcove]

collect some of this.
I have this for you.
would be alternative direct translations.

[Jippo]

collect some of this.
I have this for you.
would be alternative direct translations.

Yes, I think he means what it means in the context. The guys shooting saying "get some!" mean that get the bullets(inside you). Pretty much the same as saying "Die" or "Get wounded".


-jippo

[keimo lantio]

The phrase "Get Some!" is from movie called Full Metal Jacket which deals war in Vietnam. In that film one helicopter gunner shoots from the helicopter everything that moves. During the shooting he shouts "Get Some, get some!".

The gunner shoot everything from women, water buffalos to children. One of the characters riding along in the helicopter asks from the gunner that how you can you shoot children. Gunner replies - easy, it just aim lower-

I think that dude just got carried away in the heat of the moment, it happens.

[parabellum666]

get some means anything and everything. read generation kill for the true definition, not these friggin ones here. We saying when we're anxious, rattled anything. its a spur of the moment thing. GET SOME

ps: the door gunner says "easy, you just dont lead them as much!!!"

[parabellum666]

nooooo the video has been removed, anybody know where to get it???

[bluffcove]

might still be on youtube

[parabellum666]

no man, i checked, says it been removed for violations

[bluffcove]

If it helps i can tell you what happenend :D

[parabellum666]

oo, i was watching the video for a while today, its awsome i know, just pissed that i cant watch it again

[Dronetek]

no man, i checked, says it been removed for violations

No, its just youtube being retarded. I'll repost it somehwere else.

[PanzerMaster]

Yes, I think he means what it means in the context. The guys shooting saying "get some!" mean that get the bullets(inside you). Pretty much the same as saying "Die" or "Get wounded".


-jippo


Ah! Ok! I thinked, before, that the "Get Some" was directed toward the friendly marines, meaning "Get those insurgent, close in!"

Yes, in Italy we say "Prendi questo!" = "Take this!"

Thank a lot pals

[Dronetek]

Oh man, I've been banned from youtube. I was just about to hit 300 subscriptions too. :(

[Superking]

Oh man, I've been banned from youtube. I was just about to hit 300 subscriptions too. :(

That´s what you get for being the great Satans lackey :)

[PIMP]

Please repost the video, thanks.

[ExitusLSU]

Looks like Youtube still has CNN's piece showing the US soldiers being shot by snipers up... yeah, no bias there.

[D-gin]

Gentleman look here for what is going on.....Damn Youtube.


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95948

[ctcboy]

Ah! Ok! I thinked, before, that the "Get Some" was directed toward the friendly marines, meaning "Get those insurgent, close in!"

Yes, in Italy we say "Prendi questo!" = "Take this!"

Thank a lot pals

Uhh no he was directing it at the insurgents as in Die! Die! Die!

[Superking]

Looks like Youtube still has CNN's piece showing the US soldiers being shot by snipers up... yeah, no bias there.

No no no, Youtube does not have the smarts to be biased....it is just your garden variety R-tard reservation.

[Divine]

Oh man, I've been banned from youtube. I was just about to hit 300 subscriptions too. :(

To bad Dronetek!

You upload good videos. Stupid youtube... :-|

[Dronetek]

It's cool, I'm in the proccess of finding a new home right now. :)

[ColonialMarine]

What bullshyt !

[bluffcove]

cnat Militaryvideos.net do it for you?

[Gurdil]

It's cool, I'm in the proccess of finding a new home right now. :)
Go on www.loowa.com

[Shadow]

Please host it quick.

Use Rapidshare.de or whatever.

[Dronetek]

Please host it quick.



http://media.putfile.com/marines-counter-ambush-insurgents-



All of my videos will soon be here though:
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?user=bahamutX



(BahamutX is the name I use on Og)

[Irish Eyes]

Great video,il buy those guys a few beers:)

[ozz]

Why is it that I can't view the video on putfile? On 3 different computers all with quicktime, I actually installed the latest version on mine to try and watch it, and I get at most just the sound with nothing but whiteness

[BritSig]

Mate, thanks for posting your clips on the net.
Please be aware that the clip that says "Aussies in Iraq" are not aussies, nor are they iraqis as you claim in the comments box. They are brit commandos in afghanistan!
Once again mate cheers for puting your time into hosting your files.

BritSig.

[Sierra_Tango69]

Thanks for the video! great stuff!
What amazed me was how there seemed to be NO other civilans walking about or driving. It was like a ghost town!

[Seraphim]

http://media.putfile.com/marines-counter-ambush-insurgents-



All of my videos will soon be here though:
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?user=bahamutX



(BahamutX is the name I use on Og)

Bahamut...isnt that a clan on AA?

[turska]

Looks like Youtube still has CNN's piece showing the US soldiers being shot by snipers up... yeah, no bias there.

Well youtube is full of clips where apaches or another machines guns down targets as well as the marine/infantry clips on battle.

How it is bias to host few clips from the other side compared to bazillion nato-sided vids?

btw. Video linked earlier in this thread was good. Rarely see that kind of stuff there.

[Dronetek]

Mate, thanks for posting your clips on the net.
Please be aware that the clip that says "Aussies in Iraq" are not aussies, nor are they iraqis as you claim in the comments box. They are brit commandos in afghanistan!
Once again mate cheers for puting your time into hosting your files.

BritSig.

No, they are Iraqis. I got the picture from a thread about Iraqi special forces.

[Digital Marine]

No, they are Iraqis. I got the picture from a thread about Iraqi special forces.

Didn't know Iraqi's were Whities sportin a Landrover and DPMp-)

[Hiroshima]

They're laid back, with their mind on their money and your money on their mind.... :D

[ozz]

I still can't see the video :(

[ExitusLSU]

Go to www.xvid.org and download the xvid codec. You'll be able to view the clip then.

[ozz]

Thank you, I was thinking it was quicktime, as that was the player that kept trying to play it.

[BritSig]

No, they are Iraqis. I got the picture from a thread about Iraqi special forces.

Mate, look closely!! They are royal marine commandos!! On a brit landrover wimk.
Trust me and bite the humble pie! You were fed poor info.

[Hiroshima]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/hiromoon/BF%20Evolution%20Refrence/LiveLeak-dot-com-10270-13E3F.jpg

They look British to me...

[BritSig]

Mate you can even see their flash and cap badge!
How can they be confused with Iraqi SF!!!

[ozz]

What kind of video is it? XviD thing doesn't install any kind of player. The Quicktime player plays sound but no video.

[Dronetek]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a89/hiromoon/BF%20Evolution%20Refrence/LiveLeak-dot-com-10270-13E3F.jpg

They look British to me...

Yeah, I guess those are brits.

[ExitusLSU]

What kind of video is it? XviD thing doesn't install any kind of player. The Quicktime player plays sound but no video.

Xvid is a codex that "decodes" the video file so that you can view it. You install the codec and just open the file using a video player like Windows Media Player, don't use Quicktime.

[Resurrection]

I really love it how some of you people who probably never served or never even seen a gun before, like to criticize soldiers like "he shouldn't have done that" or "if that was me...."

Do us all a favour and keep these ignorant things to yourselves.:roll:

Both Jk=SWE= and Närskydd have served, and I'm pretty sure they've had their fair share of handling a weapon.

[ozz]

Ok, I installed the XviD and when I tried to play the URL in media player it gives me an error that my computer is almost out of memory when I am nowhere close to out of memory. What am I doing wrong..sorry for getting off topic I want to watch this video plus there are a few more that I can't watch.

[Dronetek]

It's up on my liveleak page now:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f04b862bf

[ozz]

I could watch it just fine on there.

[Onslaught]

Both Jk=SWE= and Närskydd have served, and I'm pretty sure they've had their fair share of handling a weapon.

Doesn't mean they've been in combat, and if they haven't, then they shouldn't be giving advice as to how to react in that situation.

[Nugget]

is there a way to download the video off livefreak?

[Resurrection]

Doesn't mean they've been in combat, and if they haven't, then they shouldn't be giving advice as to how to react in that situation.

Bla bla bla, that wasn't the point. Look at what I quoted.

[Jk=SWE=]

Doesn't mean they've been in combat, and if they haven't, then they shouldn't be giving advice as to how to react in that situation.


Give it up man :bash: .....As i wrote before, iám not complaining or anything like that. Iám just curious, and. And isn´t this a good place on the internet to discuss, so that we all can com home in one pice if we ewer will get in one of those situations!! :|

[LibertyUnites]

ok, i give up. the internet here at camp liberty is roughly equivalent to 56k during the only time im ever back in the trailer area. i give up starting to download this video with javimoya or keepvid and hoping it downloads while im gone because thats obviously never going to happen. will someone who has already downloaded it or has the video please upload it to a download site so i can finally see this damn video?

i cant watch streaming versions cause the itnernet is too slow, but i can make it work if i have an actual download link other than these streaming video downloaders/

thanks

[USMC-Congbuster]

I knew this would be on Mp when I came back! haha

These are some of the Marines from my unit. Little backstory, originally the Marines that leaked this back in june got a serious ass chewing by the BC and such. I dont see what the big deal is though, after reviewing the clip my CO broke it down like a football game and was monday morning quarterbackin it in the most humorous of ways. "Your Hummvee is a weapon gents, now instead of stopping he should have just ran that guy over and continued the pursuit of the other three" **** like that. It doesnt matter though cause all 3 got what they deserved.

[Närskydd]

I knew this would be on Mp when I came back! haha

These are some of the Marines from my unit. Little backstory, originally the Marines that leaked this back in june got a serious ass chewing by the BC and such. I dont see what the big deal is though, after reviewing the clip my CO broke it down like a football game and was monday morning quarterbackin it in the most humorous of ways. "Your Hummvee is a weapon gents, now instead of stopping he should have just ran that guy over and continued the pursuit of the other three" **** like that. It doesnt matter though cause all 3 got what they deserved.

Welcome back to the world, mate.

[Dronetek]

I knew this would be on Mp when I came back! haha

These are some of the Marines from my unit. Little backstory, originally the Marines that leaked this back in june got a serious ass chewing by the BC and such. I dont see what the big deal is though, after reviewing the clip my CO broke it down like a football game and was monday morning quarterbackin it in the most humorous of ways. "Your Hummvee is a weapon gents, now instead of stopping he should have just ran that guy over and continued the pursuit of the other three" **** like that. It doesnt matter though cause all 3 got what they deserved.

My buddy from 3/8 Kilo showed me some video that would be on CNN the next day, If I posted it. :)


Great backstory on this video though!

[rosscoliosis]

Dronetek, you tease, you! Haha p-)

[Dronetek]

Dronetek, you tease, you! Haha p-)

Yeah, there is no way this one is seeing the light of day. At least not till the conflict is over. There is nothing wrong with it in my opinion, but you all know how it would be blow out of proportion. Remember the mosque shooting video and the **** storm that caused?

[TagemandBagem]

ok, i give up. the internet here at camp liberty is roughly equivalent to 56k during the only time im ever back in the trailer area. i give up starting to download this video with javimoya or keepvid and hoping it downloads while im gone because thats obviously never going to happen. will someone who has already downloaded it or has the video please upload it to a download site so i can finally see this damn video?

i cant watch streaming versions cause the itnernet is too slow, but i can make it work if i have an actual download link other than these streaming video downloaders/

thanks

http://www.sendspace.com/file/vvr46s

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3329/ambushpicsqc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Frutzel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhxgVG_M9o
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhxgVG_M9o)

[Helo07]

http://www.youtube.com/v/wqhxgVG_M9o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhxgVG_M9o)

Good video! Thanks

[Frutzel]

Thanks for that.

[spale]

Repost few times and they (Marines) ambused ambushers.
Cool Video though.
"we've got the mother****ers sir" !!!

[GeraldDuval]

good vid... how did they get tipped off to the hajji's wherabouts?

[spale]

good vid... how did they get tipped off to the hajji's wherabouts?

don't mean to be rude...but come on!!!
dont get me wrong I would love to know more about it as well, but chances are that we wont for obvious reasons.

All it did say about this video when it came out was, Marines were waiting on these guys as they ambushed patrols before in that area.
I could be very wrong so please don't quote me on that.
This is how I understood what happened.

If anyone knows more and is wiling to share that with the rest of the world, please.

[jasonblaster]

I kind of thought they were a QRF responding to an ongoing/recent attack, and happened to pick the same ingress route as the egressing hajis.

[Närskydd]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95749&highlight=marines+ambush

[USMC-Congbuster]

Those Marines are in my Unit- different company but same battalion. From what I know those Marines were on a mounted patrol when a BOLO came out after that same vehicle did a drive by on a freindly dis-mounted patrol in fallujah.

[MarineLAR]

Wasnt that 1/25?

[DevilDogHopeful]

I'll add this to the collection.

This again is one of those videos where you can see the enemy being fired at.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fb8_1171998053&c=1
Added: Feb 20 2007

[justagoodolboy]

Those Marines are in my Unit- different company but same battalion. From what I know those Marines were on a mounted patrol when a BOLO came out after that same vehicle did a drive by on a freindly dis-mounted patrol in fallujah.

Indeed. Driveby assailants that got chased down. In the earlier posts of the video it is a bit more complete and you can hear the initial shots and the vehicle drive by. The chase then ensues.

[snoddy]

Gods gonna cut'm down.....

love that vid... its one of the best vids out here today.....
its a gunners dream to get targets like that out in the open.......

[USMC-Congbuster]

"Wasnt that 1/25?"

Indeed it was- Charlie Co. Im in Alpha

[snoddy]

in the original you can here the ak spitt out a few rounds then they chase them and cut'm down.....

wish i had my video camera mounted on some patrols... always next time...
muahahahahaahaha

[DevilDogHopeful]

in the original you can here the ak spitt out a few rounds then they chase them and cut'm down.....

wish i had my video camera mounted on some patrols... always next time...
muahahahahaahaha

You going back?

[snoddy]

my names on the top of list to go as a replacement, so im hoping either this summer or fall..... my old unit is in baghdad right now but theyre stuck on the base, and another small unit is heading out in the spring so i dont know.... theres always border patrol is south cali.... muahahahaahahaaaaaaa

[DevilDogHopeful]

my names on the top of list to go as a replacement, so im hoping either this summer or fall..... my old unit is in baghdad right now but theyre stuck on the base, and another small unit is heading out in the spring so i dont know.... theres always border patrol is south cali.... muahahahaahahaaaaaaa

Border patrol.. rofl

You think you'll be sent back to Ramadi? I'm not sure which parts of Iraq are the most dangerous but from clips over the net I'd say Ramadi ain't no Hilton hotel.

[snoddy]

i think ramadi was a one time shot for any guardsman.... i lived through it once, its a 50/50 chance if i go back.... we did alot better than the AD guys that replaced us (1AD boys), ramadi has gone back to hell since we left... and im not just saying it was us, but the guard worked well with the marines, recon by fire or just settle any argument by overwhelming fear and fire power, haha..... marines we worked with liked that.... controled violence of action....

[DevilDogHopeful]

i think ramadi was a one time shot for any guardsman.... i lived through it once, its a 50/50 chance if i go back.... we did alot better than the AD guys that replaced us (1AD boys), ramadi has gone back to hell since we left... and im not just saying it was us, but the guard worked well with the marines, recon by fire or just settle any argument by overwhelming fear and fire power, haha..... marines we worked with liked that.... controled violence of action....

After all that hard work it turns out that place is going to hell again. Our boys out there are going through one hell of a fight.. god bless 'em all and best of good luck to you if you go back.

[snoddy]

i wishm all the luck......

they were just doin "different things" we would never do, like let cars pass them on the roads and they ruled out warning shots, there eof escalation of force was "kinda like" dont shoot unless shot at.... in the wild west of ramadi thats the wrong answer....

[DevilDogHopeful]

i wishm all the luck......

they were just doin "different things" we would never do, like let cars pass them on the roads and they ruled out warning shots, there eof escalation of force was "kinda like" dont shoot unless shot at.... in the wild west of ramadi thats the wrong answer....

You can't shoot unless shot at? Though you were allowed to pop a dude if he had a weapon. I couldn't imagine what it must be like driving and watching a car pull up beside you or pass you by. I'd have a million knots in my stomach.

[snoddy]

the group that we did out right seat/left seat with did this....
our terp. came back from a patrol with them and almost pissssed himself telling us that they were letting cars drive by them..... our plt ldr went out with them till the last day, and he shot a few warning shots at a vehicle and it stopped, nothing else happened...but they wrote it up and wanted to do an investigation on it.... weird:cantbeli: :cantbeli:

[DevilDogHopeful]

the group that we did out right seat/left seat with did this....
our terp. came back from a patrol with them and almost pissssed himself telling us that they were letting cars drive by them..... our plt ldr went out with them till the last day, and he shot a few warning shots at a vehicle and it stopped, nothing else happened...but they wrote it up and wanted to do an investigation on it.... weird:cantbeli: :cantbeli:

What sh*t. It's not like your hitting the car right? Your just shooting in front of it...??

[snoddy]

at first, yes....