France Vs. Turkey? [Archive]

eugenlitwin

11-01-2006, 08:07 PM

What s happened if dispute over Armenian genocide goes so far?

France Military Strength

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Minimum Military Enlistment Age: 18 Years Old
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_avail_mil_manpower.asp) Available Military Manpower: 13,676,509
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_act_mil_personnel.asp) Total Military Personnel: 460,450
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_frontline_personnel.asp) Active Frontline Personnel: 259,050
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_mil_exp.asp) Yearly Military Expenditure: $45,000,000,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_purchasingpwr.asp) Available Purchasing Power: $1,822,000,000,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_gold_reserves.asp) Reported Gold Reserves: $77,350,000,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_smallarms_export.asp) Small Arms Authorized Exports (FY2005) : $400,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_smallarms_import.asp) Small Arms Authorized Imports (FY2005): $53,000,000

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http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_aircraft.asp) Aircraft: 2,175
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_armor.asp) Armor: 6,875
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_artillery.asp) Artillery Systems: 1,213
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_missile_defense.asp) Missile Defense Systems: 2,511
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_infantry_support.asp) Infantry Support Systems: 19,903
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_ships.asp) Naval Units: 140
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_merchant.asp) Merchant Marine Strength: 54

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http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_airports.asp) Serviceable Airports: 479http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_railroads.asp) Railways: 29,519kmhttp://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_waterways.asp) Waterways: 8,500 kmhttp://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_roadways.asp) Serviceable Roadways: 891,290 kmhttp://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_sqarea.asp) Total Square Area:547,030 km

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bbl = Barrels Per Day

http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_ports.asp) Major Ports and Harbors: 10http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_oil_prod.asp) Oil Production: 76,300 (bbl per day)
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_oil_consum.asp) Oil Consumption: 2,060,000 (bbl per day)
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_oil_proven.asp) Proven Oil Reserves: 144,300,000 (barrels)

http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_workforce.asp) Labor Force: 27,720,000

Turkey Military Strength

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Minimum Military Enlistment Age: 20 Years Old
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_avail_mil_manpower.asp) Available Military Manpower: 16,756,323
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_act_mil_personnel.asp) Total Military Personnel: 1,043,550
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_frontline_personnel.asp) Active Frontline Personnel: 514,850
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_mil_exp.asp) Yearly Military Expenditure: $12,155,000,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_purchasingpwr.asp) Available Purchasing Power: $552,700,000,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_gold_reserves.asp) Reported Gold Reserves: $46,500,000,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_smallarms_export.asp) Small Arms Authorized Exports (FY2005) : $30,000,000
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_smallarms_import.asp) Small Arms Authorized Imports (FY2005): $99,000,000

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http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_aircraft.asp) Aircraft: 1,964
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_armor.asp) Armor: 7,165
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_artillery.asp) Artillery Systems: 4,935
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_missile_defense.asp) Missile Defense Systems: 1,552
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_infantry_support.asp) Infantry Support Systems: 9,631
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_ships.asp) Naval Units: 182
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_merchant.asp) Merchant Marine Strength: 538

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http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_airports.asp) Serviceable Airports 120http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_railroads.asp) Railways: 8,697 kmhttp://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_waterways.asp) Waterways: 1,200kmhttp://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_roadways.asp) Serviceable Roadways: 354,421 kmhttp://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_sqarea.asp) Total Square Area:780,580 km

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bbl = Barrels Per Day

http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_ports.asp) Major Ports and Harbors: 8http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_oil_prod.asp) Oil Production: 50,000 (bbl per day)
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_oil_consum.asp) Oil Consumption: 715,100 (bbl per day)
http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_oil_proven.asp) Proven Oil Reserves: 288,400,000 (barrels)

http://www.globalfirepower.com/imgs/graph.gif (http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_workforce.asp) Labor Force: 24,700,000

SerbPVO

11-01-2006, 08:42 PM

Depends, on whose side Serbia is.
Historically, we have preffered the French;)

GREEK71AIRBORNE

11-01-2006, 09:01 PM

Turkey Will Win!!!!
LoL!!!

Now Lets get Serius! Even if France Wanted to Declare War on Turkey it Would have done it under the E.U ombrela and i Suspect that Greece (As the Closest E.U. Nation to Turkey) would have the most of the Job to Do.
But Even if France Decide to go on its own, although the distance it Will Win.
France Has An Aircraft Carrier so it's Fighters can Reach Turkey with no problem. Turkey can not do that to France!
Not to compare the Weapons like
Rafale Vs F-16
Leclerc Vs Leo1
etc

Ddavid

11-01-2006, 09:14 PM

The most important difference is than France manufacture 95% of its weaponry while Turkey is dependant on foreign suppliers. So on the long run, if such thing still exist in modern warfare, France would probably win.

Now it depend how far things would go. I think France would avoid a land invasion, and in mediterranean sea, turkish submarines could easily hide. The smartest thing would be to fight turkey until the last greek

Smersh

11-01-2006, 10:18 PM

Where exactly will the fighting take place?

chuckster

11-01-2006, 10:42 PM

The french would cook Turkey. :)

Kak

11-01-2006, 10:54 PM

France has one of the strongest, most advanced, and most capable militaries in the world, and while Turkey certainly has a very impressive military, it's just not quite on the same level. Turkey would put up a really good fight though.

Ddavid

11-01-2006, 11:08 PM

The french would cook Turkey. :)

In the paper there is no doubt. But you just need one bad general for a disaster, and turks are a dangerous ressourcefull foe.

mas-36

11-02-2006, 12:01 AM

France could win this war without firing a shot. The French government could simply declare:

1-Independence for Iraqi Kurdistan,
2- All Cyprus belongs to Greece,
3- All Armenians have rights to ancestral homes in Turkey, and
4- Istanbul is renamed Constantinople.

Turkey would have it's hands full.

Basically, I second what chuckster said.

nu4idf

11-02-2006, 01:05 AM

I think that turkey would apply economic pressure since the French don't have oil or natural gas of there own therefore economically France would be screwed military aside. Your advanced military is only as good as the food, water, and oil it has to run on. France has 2/3 but not 3/3 so it would be difficult for France in a drawn out war.

James

11-02-2006, 01:21 AM

These "XXX vs. XXX" are getting really stupid.

Nano

11-02-2006, 01:26 AM

These "XXX vs. XXX" are getting really stupid.

They are just bored man let them have their fun LMAO!!!roflroflrofl

I'mOnlyHalfPolish

11-02-2006, 01:27 AM

you all are forgetting one thing...the turks would invade from germany as well

soldier20

11-02-2006, 01:45 AM

what you mean we kicked all your buts in gallipoli france england greece italy and the anzacs we did it befor and we will do it again yous may have won the battles but we won the war and plus turkey knows turkey what the hell do's france know a lot about turkey

The most important difference is than France manufacture 95% of its weaponry while Turkey is dependant on foreign suppliers. So on the long run, if such thing still exist in modern warfare, France would probably win.

Now it depend how far things would go. I think France would avoid a land invasion, and in mediterranean sea, turkish submarines could easily hide. The smartest thing would be to fight turkey until the last greek

Pandy

11-02-2006, 01:55 AM

saladin

11-02-2006, 01:57 AM

you all are forgetting one thing...the turks would invade from germany as well

The best analysis in this threat :)))))

Lov3ll

11-02-2006, 01:57 AM

soldier20

11-02-2006, 02:00 AM

turkey will france lose we got more experience nearly now its like 20yrs now against the kurds

I'mOnlyHalfPolish

11-02-2006, 02:05 AM

what you mean we kicked all your buts in gallipoli france england greece italy and the anzacs we did it befor and we will do it again yous may have won the battles but we won the war and plus turkey knows turkey what the hell do's france know a lot about turkey

whoa whoa whoa "won the war"...the turks WON WWI...?!?!?!?

are we re-writing history here or what?

I'mOnlyHalfPolish

11-02-2006, 02:06 AM

The best analysis in this threat :)))))

hey at least someone appreciates my insight!

soldier20

11-02-2006, 02:09 AM

whoa whoa whoa "won the war"...the turks WON WWI...?!?!?!?

are we re-writing history here or what?

Yes we won the war yous couldent invade turkey so yous didnt won the war

Lov3ll

11-02-2006, 02:16 AM

Yes we won the war yous couldent invade turkey so yous didnt won the war

Why would we invade Turkey? We took your empire.

soldier20

11-02-2006, 02:20 AM

You have to be joking, you do realise that the only reason there is a Turkey is because Britain and France stole your empire and left you with a little bit of land (Turkey)?

no your joking me the stories in your books in england is a lie the ones in turkey is a true story

chuckster

11-02-2006, 02:21 AM

These "XXX vs. XXX" are getting really stupid.

Yes, I guess you're right. However, I would really like to see a good Mongolia vs. Nigeria thread. :)

soldier20

11-02-2006, 02:23 AM

Yes, I guess you're right. However, I would really like to see a good Mongolia vs. Nigeria thread. :)

i recon this is grate i hope im not offending any one

Lov3ll

11-02-2006, 02:24 AM

no your joking me the stories in your books in england is a lie the ones in turkey is a true story

o so you gave Britain and France your empire out of the goodness of your heart rofl?

soldier20

11-02-2006, 02:35 AM

no you guys lost becouse yous were alway skinny diping in our beaches then our MG guys seen yous then got slaughtered and then some of them were beging for mommy i dont get it why beg for your she cant here only god can beg god for your life not mommy

Smersh

11-02-2006, 02:36 AM

soldier20 how old are you, and how much education do you have?

soldier20

11-02-2006, 02:44 AM

i am 20yrs old and i had education till year12 and now im doing tafe

soldier20 how old are you, and how much education do you have?

Atlantic Friend

11-02-2006, 04:15 AM

TR1

11-02-2006, 06:05 AM

guys this thread sucks, lets debate something new...........
S-400 or F-22????

Atlantic Friend

11-02-2006, 06:28 AM

Yeah, good idea ! Or try this one : if we pitted US Marines against Foreign Legionnaires or Russian Spetsnaz, who would win ? Was the Mig-15 better than the F-86 Sabre ? Is the M-1 better than the T-90 ? And so on and on and on...

;)

eugenlitwin

11-02-2006, 06:31 AM

Where exactly will the fighting take place?

Let say France would use Lebanon territory as plazdarm

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Icarus1

11-02-2006, 07:38 AM

Considering that Turkey is in talks to join the EU... in which France has also a fix place, just a ridiculous discussion.

How about McDo Vs. Burgerking?

Atlantic Friend

11-02-2006, 09:11 AM

Considering that Turkey is in talks to join the EU... in which France has also a fix place, just a ridiculous discussion.

How about McDo Vs. Burgerking?

Man, Burger King p0wns Mc Do any day, that's for sure ! ;)

Largomateratops

11-02-2006, 09:37 AM

Boring!!

Moon vs. Earth who will win ?!

Threads like this are useless! Like almost every other comparison thread!

Deicide

11-02-2006, 10:32 AM

French nuclear submarines can cook turkey?

cleus

11-02-2006, 10:53 AM

Greetings fella's

People should take NATO into account. Just because both of the countries are members of it, a war on battlefields seems too much unreal. An economical war would be more acceptable. Even tho France's purchashing budget is way too much bigger than Turkey's (x2), there are many French, English, Asian, American etc invests in Turkey. I think this would help Turkey to balance the situation. Hah, do not forget to add that many automobile factories are also located in Turkey.

In every single way, a war between France and Turkey would be stupid and will probably take ages to be ended in a one side's victory.

But it is a fact that in the Turkish Independence War, which is just after WWI, Turkish people defeated France and this resulted as a withdrawn for France.

Turkish Armed Corps are experienced tho, since they are fighting against PKK/Kadek (a Kurdish terrorist organisation) in the northern Iraq, this modern army is not be able to be defeated easily. Especially from over-sea country which does not have a successor power as the US have.

Cleus | Let the peace rule the earth.

Ddavid

11-02-2006, 11:01 AM

If both nations were gung-ho (or would it be stupid ?) enough to go to war over what is a rather minor issue, then I suppose the possession and use of nuclear weapons would play a role in such a conflict. This would mean the Armenian Genocide would be "proven" by 300+ nuclear warheads to 0, and survivors would then bicker about the existence or non-existence of the Turkish Genocide.

Come on, our existence wouldn't be in peril and our Mirv currently target cities of other permanent UNSC members. If we ever release them on Istanbul, the perfidious brits would land in Calais and Bordeaux in the next morning, and steal Moet et Chandon bottle from poor workers mouth.

People should take NATO into account. Just because both of the countries are members of it, a war on battlefields seems too much unreal

Just because each countries are Nato members, Nato would be paralyzed over the issue because each of them will be able to veto.

Lov3ll

11-02-2006, 12:22 PM

Atlantic Friend

11-02-2006, 12:26 PM

Come on, our existence wouldn't be in peril and our Mirv currently target cities of other permanent UNSC members. If we ever release them on Istanbul, the perfidious brits would land in Calais and Bordeaux in the next morning, and steal Moet et Chandon bottle from poor workers mouth.

I guess we'd have an army of British exiles more than willing to enlist and fend off that invasion then - if only for a privileged access to Moet & Chandon bottles and regular invitations to "à la fortune du pot" suppers.

Atlantic Friend

11-02-2006, 12:28 PM

Boring!!

Moon vs. Earth who will win ?!

The Moon. Less retards per square miles than Earth.

Bitogno

11-02-2006, 12:41 PM

In fact I would prefer Pepito Vs Granola ( cookies )

With IMO Pepito wining.

DeltaWhisky58

11-02-2006, 12:47 PM

Do not open any more of these "What if" threads - failure to comply will result in infractions.