View Full Version : Canada set for mass baby seal hunting
MetalBoy
04-12-2004, 12:37 AM
So any Canadian friends wanna go clubbin? :lol: :roll:
The largest single seal hunt in half a century begins in Canada on Monday.
The government is allowing more than 300,000 seals to be killed this year, many of them in a 36-hour mass cull.
The hunting of young seals for their fur almost stopped off Canada's east coast 25 years ago in the face of international outrage.
Animal rights groups are hoping to sway international opinion against the hunt, but Canadian officials say it is now both humane and necessary.
The seal hunt in Newfoundland and Labrador withered 25 years ago as brutal images of men clubbing infant seals horrified the world.
As a result, the Canadian government reduced quotas for seal hunting to as low as 15,000 annually - mainly for meat and local handicraft.
But with fur again in fashion the hunt is back.
Last year Canada increased the quotas again, allowing a million seals to be killed over the next three years.
It is now being conducted under tighter regulations and most seals are now shot, not clubbed, but the number of animals expected to be taken this year will be the highest in decades and once again it is drawing international attention.
Hard to convince
At the weekend, Canadian Natural Resources Minister John Efford said many claims made overseas about the hunt are simply wrong.
He says the hunt is more humane than ever while the seal population is exploding and commercial fish stocks in the region are vanishing.
But the BBC's Ian Gunn in Vancouver, Canada, says against images of dying seals that can be a hard argument to make convincing.
The Canadian tourism commission admitted last week they are keeping an eye open for an international backlash should the protests gather strength.
Officials estimate there are 5.2 million harp seals in the north Atlantic currently.
Guidelines 'ignored'
Far from being endangered, the seals are responsible for the depletion of cod stocks, they say.
Society girl Paris Hilton joins the campaign
Animal rights groups accuse officials of "attempting to scapegoat seals" for their own fisheries mismanagement.
The International Fund for Animal Welfare (Ifaw) also says government guidelines on humane hunting methods are being ignored.
"We filmed and witnessed seals being skinned alive right in front of us," Ifaw activist Rebecca Aldworth told ******* news agency last week.
"We saw live seals being dragged while conscious across the ice with boat hooks, we saw stockpiles of dead and dying seals, it was really horrific."
Another group, the US-based Humane Society, is taking full-page adverts in prominent American newspapers to urge for a travel boycott on Canada.
They also designed shirts reading "Club Sandwiches Not Seals".
GrantT
04-12-2004, 12:42 AM
Savages.
Universal
04-12-2004, 12:45 AM
http://www.gan.ca/images/campaigns/wildlife/sealhunt/seal-clubbed.jpg
savages, I swear to god this isn't right. I'd love to head up north with my sniper rifle and take down any motherf*cker i see hurting a seal.
shorty
04-12-2004, 12:51 AM
Acting like a bunch of assholes, eh? You wanna go kill some poor, defenseless baby seals, eh? Lets go then..........eh. Be funny if PETA blows the freaking party to bits with a bomb.......
Ballistic
04-12-2004, 12:59 AM
Sickening.
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04-12-2004, 01:21 AM
Question has any of you ever seen exactly how many seals there are around? I
I can sure say on the West Coast of Canada there's so many seals its actually putting the fish population at risk. Too many seals, not enough fish...something's gotta give. Especially considering that there is alot of small fishing communities that rely on fishing for survival. Theres been alot of effort to conserve fish and catch limits, these have been in place for as long as I can remeber.
GrantT
04-12-2004, 07:59 AM
Fish numbers have been low for nearly 20 years, culling thousands of innocent seals will not raise that number by any significant amount.
Mr Gently Benevolent
04-12-2004, 09:35 AM
Go Canada, killing pups is not the most PC way of population control but it is the most practical as it would not be economical to hunt seals at sea plus there is some profit in it as there seems to be a growing amount of women wanting to wear the little tykes as coats. I am sure the Canadians are controlling the cull and I am glad they have the guts to go ahead with it.
Ichhabe
04-12-2004, 09:59 AM
Go Canada, killing pups is not the most PC way of population control but it is the most practical as it would not be economical to hunt seals at sea plus there is some profit in it as there seems to be a growing amount of women wanting to wear the little tykes as coats. I am sure the Canadians are controlling the cull and I am glad they have the guts to go ahead with it.
...and Norway has already done this for years.
The whole "oh my God, they are so cute and look at their eyes how can someone be so cruel and barbaric, yak yak yak yak yak yak" is just missplaced feelings.
These are beast of nature, providing meat and fur. Those so-called animal lovers had to sedate a seal puppet so Brigitte Bardot could hold it in her arms. One thing for sure, they are masters of propaganda. Skinned alive??? Come on! For anyone who think that is possible, I'm willing to come over to you with a baby seal. Then you can try it yourself to see if it is possible.
And just for the record: Funny that you belive their reports about horrible baby seal killings when you wount belive their reports from let's say; The war zone of Iraq.
Mr Gently Benevolent
04-12-2004, 10:06 AM
The whole "oh my God, they are so cute and look at their eyes how can someone be so cruel and barbaric, yak yak yak yak yak yak" is just missplaced feelings.
These are beast of nature, providing meat and fur. Those so-called animal lovers had to sedate a seal puppet so Brigitte Bardot could hold it in her arms. One thing for sure, they are masters of propaganda. Skinned alive??? Come on! For anyone who think that is possible, I'm willing to come over to you with a baby seal. Then you can try it yourself to see if it is possible.
And just for the record: Funny that you belive their reports about horrible baby seal killings when you wount belive their reports from let's say; The war zone of Iraq.
We have been calling for a seal cull for over 30 years and still nothing has been done although you are allowed to kill them if they interfere with your gear its almost impossible to do as you must actually kill them in the act of doing so. Norway has mostly common sense environmental policies while we have a hotch-potch of conflicting policies that are at best plain lunacy.
And just for the record: Funny that you belive their reports about horrible baby seal killings when you wount belive their reports from let's say; The war zone of Iraq.Back to top
You can't be referring to me?
Romulus
04-12-2004, 10:16 AM
So is Canada going to call the French navy over to help patrol off shore? You know in case any Green Peace or PETA ships need to be sunk. rofl
Can't really say I have an opinion on the whole ordeal. We hunt deer in droves down here (Maryland-West Virginia-Virginia) without much outrage, but we do give the deer a sporting chance by only hunting during the day. Clubbing is pretty cruel though and painful, why not shoot them instead of making them suffer?
The war zone of Iraq.
How bout not trying to Shanghi this topic bub?
I've got no problem with seals being culled, the Canadian government know much more about the situation than I do and if they say it needs to be done then it needs to be done.
My problem is the fact that some of them are still being clubbed to death, surely they can round up enough guns and ammunition to provide a more humane way to kill them? I feel the same about fox hunting in the UK, foxes need to be killed but there's got to be a better way than chasing them for miles with a pack of dogs.
Personally I feel that if they wish to club an animal to death they should start with a polar bear, now that's a real sport - polar bear clubbing, see how well they do. :D
Actually, now I've re-read the article I see that Paris Hilton is against it, well that makes all the difference in the world to me. A vapid, unnattractive idiot whose only real claim to fame is answering her phone in the middle of *** has said culling seals is bad. I can imagine how her past experience of drinking, coke-snorting and buying three thousand dollar shoes with her dad's money has qualified her to make a judgment on that.
Mr Gently Benevolent
04-12-2004, 10:29 AM
Clubbing is pretty cruel though and painful, why not shoot them instead of making them suffer?
Shooting wastes the pelt, trappers using leg hold traps still use the club its the best method. A friend of mine who was trapping foxes years ago asked his mate to check on his traps while he was away for the day, the said mate went into the woods to check the traps and found in one of them he found the biggest fox he had ever seen and it was really pissed. Instead of getting a stick and beating it over the head to death he was so scared to go near it he gave it both barrels of his 12 gauge the result was a very dead fox and a large top quality fox pelt blasted to f*ck. My friend was not best pleased, the thing was about the size of small greyhond.
Romulus
04-12-2004, 10:43 AM
Shooting wastes the pelt, trappers using leg hold traps still use the club its the best method.
I find it hard to believe a head shot would ruin the whole pelt. There has got to be a more humane way for Canada to accomplish this besides clubbing. Getting your skull bashed in has got to be the most horrific way to die.
Ichhabe
04-12-2004, 10:45 AM
Clubbing is pretty cruel though and painful, why not shoot them instead of making them suffer?
Grown up animals are shot.
http://www.finnmark.net/nyheter/arkiv/2001-01/050801-selfangst.jpg
Also pups are being shot, but the use of the Hakapik is as much good as a shot.
Anyway, the rules says that any seal shot, also must be clubbed with the Hakapik.
Also clubbing, is as good as shooting on pups, cause with a good clubbing, the animal is dead within seconds. It also get paralized immediatly after getting that blow to the head.
How bout not trying to Shanghi this topic bub?
I ain't trying to shanghai no thread. I just pointed out the fact that people tend to hug any "prooves" out there from pretty fanatical envoirementalists(sp?) if it support their personall view, but if the same group give a report about the delicate flowers of the Middle East beeing rooted out and away from war zones, then they are peacenicks.
memphiz
04-12-2004, 03:45 PM
they said the seals are not going to be clubbed any more there gonna shoot em, just saw it on tv
Personally I feel that if they wish to club an animal to death they should start with a polar bear, now that's a real sport - polar bear clubbing, see how well they do
sounds fun, it would be an even match. a new reality tv show Man&club vs. Polar bear :D
Ichhabe
04-12-2004, 05:10 PM
they said the seals are not going to be clubbed any more there gonna shoot em, just saw it on tv
Personally I feel that if they wish to club an animal to death they should start with a polar bear, now that's a real sport - polar bear clubbing, see how well they do
sounds fun, it would be an even match. a new reality tv show Man&club vs. Polar bear :D
If so, my advice would to be the sharp end of the hakapik(club).
Cause the Polar bear is able to sniff seals through 1 meter thick ice, and then ram his head in to the ice, head butting his way down to the seal and then have a tasty snack.( I **** you not.)
Fintin
04-12-2004, 05:14 PM
so i guess we are having seal for dinner....yummy
Seraphim
04-12-2004, 05:16 PM
they said the seals are not going to be clubbed any more there gonna shoot em, just saw it on tv
Personally I feel that if they wish to club an animal to death they should start with a polar bear, now that's a real sport - polar bear clubbing, see how well they do
sounds fun, it would be an even match. a new reality tv show Man&club vs. Polar bear :D
If so, my advice would to be the sharp end of the hakapik(club).
Cause the Polar bear is able to sniff seals through 1 meter thick ice, and then ram his head in to the ice, head butting his way down to the seal and then have a tasty snack.( I **** you not.)
1 metre thick...I'll believe it when I see it. The polar bear would have to go through 1metre of ice with one headbutt because a seal is not going to sit there while some bear is headbutting its way through the ice.
memphiz
04-12-2004, 06:01 PM
they said the seals are not going to be clubbed any more there gonna shoot em, just saw it on tv
Personally I feel that if they wish to club an animal to death they should start with a polar bear, now that's a real sport - polar bear clubbing, see how well they do
sounds fun, it would be an even match. a new reality tv show Man&club vs. Polar bear :D
If so, my advice would to be the sharp end of the hakapik(club).
Cause the Polar bear is able to sniff seals through 1 meter thick ice, and then ram his head in to the ice, head butting his way down to the seal and then have a tasty snack.( I **** you not.)i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
Seraphim
04-12-2004, 06:03 PM
i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
Arent polar bears the only animal that hunts humans. So all you have to do is just walk around till one stalks you and kills you in your sleep.
memphiz
04-12-2004, 06:06 PM
i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
Arent polar bears the only animal that hunts humans. So all you have to do is just walk around till one stalks you and kills you in your sleep.
they dont hunt people, there is thousands of inuit up north and ive never heard of a polar bear hunting a person.
Seraphim
04-12-2004, 06:10 PM
i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
Arent polar bears the only animal that hunts humans. So all you have to do is just walk around till one stalks you and kills you in your sleep.
they dont hunt people, there is thousands of inuit up north and ive never heard of a polar bear hunting a person.
Well then you havent heard much than have you. ;)
memphiz
04-12-2004, 06:15 PM
i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
Arent polar bears the only animal that hunts humans. So all you have to do is just walk around till one stalks you and kills you in your sleep.
they dont hunt people, there is thousands of inuit up north and ive never heard of a polar bear hunting a person.
Well then you havent heard much than have you. ;)
well lets pretend that polar bears did hunt people :roll: i would be sleeping in an igloo, my spidey sense would kick in then i would burst out of the igloo and fight the polar bear ;)
Seraphim
04-12-2004, 06:23 PM
I hope you have a m14 when you come face to face with a 1500pound male.
Ichhabe
04-12-2004, 06:43 PM
1 metre thick...I'll believe it when I see it. The polar bear would have to go through 1metre of ice with one headbutt because a seal is not going to sit there while some bear is headbutting its way through the ice.
Did I say that it was with ONE headbutt? No.
But there was a documentary about the Polar bear and it's hunting methods. In one of the scenes, you could see the bear headbutting it's way through the ice, and then after awhile dragging the seal up on the ice, and started the festing.
http://www.orkneyislandholidays.com/polarbear.jpg
"Go ahead, kick me in the nuts. Make my day!"
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~eschmidt/p/funny/polar_bears.jpg
Stunned friends gather around a polar bear just after a sucsessfull kick in the nuts.
Seraphim
04-12-2004, 06:50 PM
The polar bear was probably just sitting at a breathing hole where the seal comes up to breath and and the ice was really thin. It may look like it was head butting but it might actually be grabbing the seal. Listen...when you walk on ice, it makes alot of sound/vibration. A seal is going to be swimming away.
memphiz
04-12-2004, 07:04 PM
I hope you have a m14 when you come face to face with a 1500pound male.
i could take it
Ichhabe
04-12-2004, 07:05 PM
The polar bear was probably just sitting at a breathing hole where the seal comes up to breath and and the ice was really thin. It may look like it was head butting but it might actually be grabbing the seal. Listen...when you walk on ice, it makes alot of sound/vibration. A seal is going to be swimming away.
Yeah, you probably right. Came to think of it that the narrator sounded drunk, and those words just popped out of his mouth.
Still can't explain the strange behaviour of the polar bear ramming his head in to the ice, over and over again.
Probably it was drunk aswell. ;)
MaDuce
04-12-2004, 07:11 PM
OMG call the Hauge on the evil canadians..it is time for a seal jihad againest the evil canadian occupying forces.
BTW Polar bears do hunt people i was up north once and a polar with a snow white ghille suit and a PSG-1 shot me in the leg.
memphiz
04-12-2004, 07:15 PM
OMG call the Hauge on the evil canadians..it is time for a seal jihad againest the evil canadian occupying forces.
BTW Polar bears do hunt people i was up north once and a polar with a snow white ghille suit and a PSG-1 shot me in the leg.
HAHAHA rofl
Hav218
04-12-2004, 07:16 PM
****ing canadians.
Why dont you stop being pussys and killing defenseless animals and join the military. Now I got this strong urge to go hunting for Caunuks. Clean shot to the head. Savage canadians dropping one by one. Hahaha....Sounds like fun!
What the **** did those seals do to them? Nothing. They just need a reason to prove to the world that canada can yet again shove the large wand of bull**** further up there partially french asses.
Dip****s.....Hope they all die.
memphiz
04-12-2004, 07:19 PM
f*** canadians.
Why dont you stop being pussys and killing defenseless animals and join the military. Now I got this strong urge to go hunting for Caunuks. Clean shot to the head. Savage canadians dropping one by one. Hahaha....Sounds like fun!
What the f*** did those seals do to them? Nothing. They just need a reason to prove to the world that canada can yet again shove the large wand of bull**** further up there partially french asses.
Dip****s.....Hope they all die.
i hope you joking
Wow, people sure like animals on this board. Never would have guessed it.
Pass me my seal club, memphiz. :D
memphiz
04-12-2004, 07:24 PM
Wow, people sure like animals on this board. Never would have guessed it.
Pass me my club, memphiz. ;)
*passes Fox2 a club*
lets go clubbin' :D
Ichhabe
04-12-2004, 07:27 PM
f*** canadians.
Why dont you stop being pussys and killing defenseless animals and join the military. Now I got this strong urge to go hunting for Caunuks. Clean shot to the head. Savage canadians dropping one by one. Hahaha....Sounds like fun!
What the f*** did those seals do to them? Nothing. They just need a reason to prove to the world that canada can yet again shove the large wand of bull**** further up there partially french asses.
Dip****s.....Hope they all die.
If that was supposed to be funny, you failed.
If that was supposed to be serious,... well, then you stink.
http://www.koko.org/world/signpics/images/sign_stink.jpg
memphiz
04-12-2004, 07:32 PM
i wonder what would happen if you gave a gorilla a club and put it in a cage with a polar bear? would they fight? be very interesting to see
Ichhabe
04-12-2004, 07:35 PM
i wonder what would happen if you gave a gorilla a club and put it in a cage with a polar bear? would they fight? be very interesting to see
First of all: I hate hate hate cruelty towards animals.
But I have to be honest on that one. I would have payed top dollars to watch'em having a go on eachothers.
ape with club < polar bear :D
memphiz
04-12-2004, 07:37 PM
i wonder what would happen if you gave a gorilla a club and put it in a cage with a polar bear? would they fight? be very interesting to see
First of all: I hate hate hate cruelty towards animals.
But I have to be honest on that one. I would have payed top dollars to watch'em having a go on eachothers.
yeah me too, the video in the photos & video section where they execute the dogs , thats not cool
SeanAshi
04-12-2004, 07:49 PM
It would be more intresting if the seals could club back
memphiz
04-12-2004, 07:50 PM
It would be more intresting if the seals could club back
:P
Hav218
04-12-2004, 08:00 PM
f*** canadians.
Why dont you stop being pussys and killing defenseless animals and join the military. Now I got this strong urge to go hunting for Caunuks. Clean shot to the head. Savage canadians dropping one by one. Hahaha....Sounds like fun!
What the f*** did those seals do to them? Nothing. They just need a reason to prove to the world that canada can yet again shove the large wand of bull**** further up there partially french asses.
Dip****s.....Hope they all die.
If that was supposed to be funny, you failed.
If that was supposed to be serious,... well, then you stink.
http://www.koko.org/world/signpics/images/sign_stink.jpg
Sorry. Forgot I'm not entitled to my opionon. Take a guess. Was there a 'LOL or JK' anywhere in that post of mine? Nope. Maybe this established that I wasnt kidding? Who knows! Whats wrong with me killing humans?
Whats wrong with me killing humans?
They don't taste quite as good as baby seals. p-)
memphiz
04-12-2004, 08:09 PM
@Hav218:
you seem pretty retarded.
Why dont you stop being pussys and killing defenseless animals and join the military
its the inuit that hunt them, to control there numbers(so they dont end up starving to death) and for food.
They just need a reason to prove to the world that canada can yet again shove the large wand of bull**** further up there partially french asses.
WTF this is why i think your retarded
BTW where are you from? im guessing the US right
'Baby seal walked into a club...'
Seraphim
04-15-2004, 04:09 PM
Ichhabe I just saw the same program as you did. The bear was smashing its way through a SNOW den where adult seals put their pups that arent ready for the water. And the bear was using its paws...not its head ;)
Fintin
04-15-2004, 04:10 PM
i saw a baby seal last night....i sunk my teeth into it
I've been looking for a place to shoot my CETME.. Sign me up.
Steve Railsback
04-15-2004, 09:20 PM
i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
Arent polar bears the only animal that hunts humans. So all you have to do is just walk around till one stalks you and kills you in your sleep.
they dont hunt people, there is thousands of inuit up north and ive never heard of a polar bear hunting a person.
well the polar bear are getting more interested in humans, due to the longer and longer summer season whit out icy waters
memphiz
04-15-2004, 09:59 PM
i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
Arent polar bears the only animal that hunts humans. So all you have to do is just walk around till one stalks you and kills you in your sleep.
they dont hunt people, there is thousands of inuit up north and ive never heard of a polar bear hunting a person.
well the polar bear are getting more interested in humans, due to the longer and longer summer season whit out icy waters
yeah but im safe, the majority of polar bears is in Churchill Manitoba ;) its the polar bear capital of the world
Brandon
04-16-2004, 01:39 PM
You are kidding yourself if you think a large amount of animals like this dont harm the environment, and cause problems to the locals.
We had a deer cull here a couple months ago. All the "save the animals" people were out of course, but none of them are farmers who get their crops eaten by the large number of deer. hmmm.... if its the animals or the humans that die, I wonder who is going to come out on top. They must have one hell of a lot of seals if they can kill 300 000 and still have a viable population of them. That would be fun to participate in... Get the M1 Garand all shined up for that!
bobdakilla
04-16-2004, 02:04 PM
they said the seals are not going to be clubbed any more there gonna shoot em, just saw it on tv
Personally I feel that if they wish to club an animal to death they should start with a polar bear, now that's a real sport - polar bear clubbing, see how well they do
sounds fun, it would be an even match. a new reality tv show Man&club vs. Polar bear :D
If so, my advice would to be the sharp end of the hakapik(club).
Cause the Polar bear is able to sniff seals through 1 meter thick ice, and then ram his head in to the ice, head butting his way down to the seal and then have a tasty snack.( I **** you not.)i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA funniest **** ive heard all week
memphiz
04-16-2004, 02:10 PM
they said the seals are not going to be clubbed any more there gonna shoot em, just saw it on tv
Personally I feel that if they wish to club an animal to death they should start with a polar bear, now that's a real sport - polar bear clubbing, see how well they do
sounds fun, it would be an even match. a new reality tv show Man&club vs. Polar bear :D
If so, my advice would to be the sharp end of the hakapik(club).
Cause the Polar bear is able to sniff seals through 1 meter thick ice, and then ram his head in to the ice, head butting his way down to the seal and then have a tasty snack.( I **** you not.)i could take a polar bear, id be like "RAWRRRR" and try and scare it, then when it stands on its hind legs ill kick it in the stones with my steel toed snow shoes, then club it till it dies. once its dead ill take the skin and wear it and pretend im a bear and steal peoples picinik baskets
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA funniest **** ive heard all week
:D
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