Today's Pic's - Monday, April 12

[He219]

http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/LBOX/mini/972978.jpg

Polish Army soldiers prepare to take part in an afternoon patrol around the perimeter of Camp Babylon, Iraq, March 21, 2004. DoD photo by Staff Sgt. Ricky A. Bloom, U.S. Air Force. (Released)


http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341695.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D2CC2F50D389938A6

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: A US soldier drives past a billboard advertisement for a Japanese company while patrolling the center of Baghdad 12 April 2004. A Japanese diplomat reported "no progress" as the reported 1300 GMT deadline for the first of three Japanese hostages to be executed expired. AFP PHOTO/Antonio SCORZA (Photo credit should read ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/***** Images)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20040412/mdf523504.jpg

Twenty-five members of Japan's Air Self-Defense Force depart for Kuwait from Komaki air base in central Japan April 12, 2004. The troops left the base amid an ongoing hostage crisis in Iraq (news - web sites) where three Japanese civilians have been kidnapped by a local militant group. (Kyodo via *******)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341247.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D20C40AB6503A6610

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the Third Amphibious Assault Battalion First Marine Division, works on the top of his armored vehicle decorated with a taxi sign in the industrial sector south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April, 2004. The ceasefire in the flashpoint Iraqi town of Fallujah has been extended until Monday night, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341239.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DD54FCBBCDDD7FAF0

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines carry a Russian made RPK machinegun taken from Sunni Muslim insurgents near the industrial sector south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. The ceasefire in this Iraqi town has been extended until tonight, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. .AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341241.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DDD232F1030738963

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: US marines from the First Battalion Fifth Marines patrol in the industrial sector south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. The ceasefire in this Iraqi town has been extended until tonight, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. .AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341240.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DE3A6FDAD1F580D0D

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines return from a patrol in the industrial sector south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. The ceasefire in this Iraqi town has been extended until tonight, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. .AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341237.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D6CE90076616BF14A

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines provides cover to fellow marines patroling the industrial sector south easte of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. The ceasefire in this Iraqi town has been extended until tonight, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. .AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341235.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D81567B5C242F0CC1

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: US marines from the First Battalion, Fifth Marines watch enemy positions in the industrial sector south east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. The ceasefire in the flashpoint Iraqi town of Fallujah has been extended until tomorrow night, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=584225

Iraqis throw a bottle of gasoline on a U.S. supply truck after it came under attack on the Baghdad, Iraq, to Fallujah highway Monday April 12, 2004. The truck was then set ablaze. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=584231

Iraqis loots a U.S. supply truck after it came under attack on the Baghdad to Fallujah highway, in Baghdad, Iraq Monday April 12, 2004. (AP Photo/Abdel Kader Saadi)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r4236202446.jpg

Iraqi men loot a burning U.S. Army transport truck as a police officer watches after it was attacked on Baghdad's airport highway April 12, 2004. *******/Akram Saleh

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r65075320.jpg

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=584228

A U.S. Army Humvee stands guard next to a burning army vehicle that was attacked by insurgents at the Baghdad-Fallujah highway, Iraq, Monday, April 12, 2004. Gunfire was largely silenced Monday in the second day of a truce in Fallujah, where doctors said 600 Iraqis, including many civilians, were killed in the past week's Marine siege of Sunni insurgents. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=584224

U.S. soldiers patrol the area of an attack on a supply truck on the Baghdad, Iraq, to Fallujah highway Monday April 12, 2004. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341577.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D2C79DA149DD414B5

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: Iraqis loot a burning truck attacked by insurgents 12 April 2004 on the highway leading the Iraqi capital to Baghdad's International Airport. Seventy soldiers from the US-led coalition and 10 times that number of Iraqis have been killed in clashes in Iraq since April 1, a senior US military official said. AFP PHOTO/Antonio SCORZA (Photo credit should read ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341489.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D4C9E170D4994EA98

LATIFIYAH, IRAQ: Iraqi boys stand 12 April 2004 near a burnt US military vehicle, part of a US armored vehicles convoy, which was attacked the day before on the road leading Baghdad to the southern Shiite city of Karbala. Talks were continuing to seal a comprehensive agreement between the US-led coalition and Shiite radical leader Moqtada Sadr to end clashes in Shiite cities. AFP/PHOTO Ahmad AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341486.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DCAA0FF90334054CE

LATIFIYAH, IRAQ: An Iraqi man checks 12 April 2004 a burnt US military vehicle, part of a US armored vehicles convoy, which was attacked the day before on the road leading Baghdad to the southern Shiite city of Karbala. Talks were continuing to seal a comprehensive agreement between the US-led coalition and Shiite radical leader Moqtada Sadr to end clashes in Shiite cities. AFP/PHOTO Ahmad AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341484.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D2508BA3B19036053

LATIFIYAH, IRAQ: Iraqi children loot 12 April 2004 a burnt US military vehicle, part of a US armored vehicles convoy, which was attacked the day before on the road leading Baghdad to the southern Shiite city of Karbala. Talks were continuing to seal a comprehensive agreement between the US-led coalition and Shiite radical leader Moqtada Sadr to end clashes in Shiite cities. AFP/PHOTO Ahmad AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341598.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D1337EA456FA4BD11

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: A truck carrying a US army tank drives toward Baghdad's International Airport 12 April 2004. Seventy soldiers from the US-led coalition and 10 times that number of Iraqis have been killed in clashes in Iraq since April 1, a senior US military official said. AFP PHOTO/Antonio SCORZA (Photo credit should read ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/***** Images)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040412/capt.sge.gjx16.120404135954.photo01.default-384x252.jpg

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploaded/uploaded-31845_large.jpg

By John RuwitchBEIJING (*******) - Gunmen have kidnapped seven Chinese citizens in Iraq, the latest in a spate of hostage-taking, and Beijing has appealed to Baghdad to rescue (http://www.*******.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=492118§ion=news) them(***** Images file)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040412/capt.lon80404121421.iraq_british_hostage_lon804.jpg

Released British hostage Gary Teeley, center, is helped by British service personnel from a Chinook helicopter Monday April 12, 2004, at 22 Field Hospital based in Shaibah, Iraq (news - web sites) on his first full day of freedom after being held hostage by Iraqi militia. Teeley had been in Iraq working as a laundry firm consultant for a Qatar-based company when he was snatched from the southern city of Nasiriyah last Monday and was held until his release to Italian troops early Sunday (AP Photo/Gary Wort, Royal Air Force)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040412/capt.lon80304121435.iraq_britain_hostage_lon803.jpg

Released British hostage Gary Teeley speaks to British service personnel Monday April 12, 2004, at 22 Field Hospital based in Shaibah, Iraq (news - web sites) on his first full day of freedom after being held hostage by Iraqi militia. Teeley had been in Iraq working as a laundry firm consultant for a Qatar-based company when he was snatched from the southern city of Nasiriyah last Monday and was held until his release to Italian troops early Sunday. (AP Photo/Gary Wort, Royal Air Force )


http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r1249459027.jpg

An Albanian commando stands guard in front of the American flag at Mother Teresa airport before he leaves for Iraq (news - web sites) to participate in the U.S. led coalition, Tirana, April 12, 2004. Albania, a staunch ally of the United States is sending a 70-strong brigade of its elite commando troops in Iraq. *******/Arben Celi

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r1841135265.jpg

Albanian Defence Minister Pandeli Majko inspects commandos at Mother Teresa airport who will be sent to Iraq (news - web sites) to participate in the U.S. led coalition, Tirana, April 12, 2004. Albania, a staunch ally of the United States is sending a 70-strong brigade of its elite commando troops in Iraq. *******/Arben Celi

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploaded/uploaded-34754_large.jpg

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Hundreds of Afghan and American soldiers are engaged in a new hunt for Osama bin Laden and other terror suspects in a mountainous region bordering Pakistan, the Afghan military said Monday. The operation began Friday in Spera, a border district in Khost province, 90 miles south of Kabul, Afghan military commander Zakim Khan said. No arrests or clashes were reported. 700 troops, including 100 American soldiers backed by U.S. helicopters, blocked off a potential escape route for militants who could be hiding on the Pakistani side of the frontier, Khan said.

http://wwwi.*******.com/images/2004-04-12T102430Z_01_KAR01D_RTRIDSP_2_AFGHAN-USA-APPEAL.jpg

A resident holds a leaflet air-dropped by the U.S. forces in Pakistan's Western border city of Chaman April 12, 2004. U.S.-led forces have air-dropped leaflets in the Afghan border areas seeking intelligence on al Qaeda and Taliban militants, residents said on Monday. *******/Saeed Ali Achakzai


http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341191.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D238611C73DE814EC

TBILISI, GEORGIA: A Georgian soldier lifts his son prior to the departure of 100 soldiers strong contingent to Kosovo at a military airport in Tbilisi, 12 April 2004. The soldiers, who underwent a training course by US instructors will participate in a peacekeeping mission. AFP PHOTO / VANO SHLAMOV (Photo credit should read VANO SHLAMOV/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341190.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D2F7F357C8FC914E5

TBILISI, GEORGIA: A Georgian soldier rolls up Georgian national flag prior to departure of 100 soldiers strong contingent to Kosovo at a military airport in Tbilisi, 12 April 2004. The soldiers, who underwent a training course by US instructors will participate in a peacekeeping mission. AFP PHOTO / VANO SHLAMOV (Photo credit should read VANO SHLAMOV/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341717.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA6BC4C7351D81EE5

MOSCOW, RUSSIAN FEDERATION: Russian President Vladimir Putin gestures as he delivers a speech during his visit to the Federal Space Agency in Moscow, 12 April 2004. Russia does and will do everything possible to ensure that outer space is demilitarized, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Monday Interfax news agency reported. AFP PHOTO / YURI KADOBNOV (Photo credit should read YURI KADOBNOV/AFP/***** Images)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r3672415066.jpg

A member of the presidential special task force (R) and a supporter of African National Congress (news - web sites) (ANC) watch as South Africa and ANC deputy president, Jacob Zuma, campaigns in Nseleni, KwaZulu-Natal province, some 300 km (186 miles) north of Durban, April 12, 2004. Thousands of chanting Zulus gathered for the climax of general election campaigning on Monday in KwaZulu-Natal, where pollsters say Wednesday's vote is too close to call. *******/Radu Sigheti

[Catch22]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341239.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DD54FCBBCDDD7FAF0

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines carry a Russian made RPK machinegun taken from Sunni Muslim insurgents near the industrial sector south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. The ceasefire in this Iraqi town has been extended until tonight, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. .AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

Its a PK (Puliemiot Kalashnikova) GPMG chambered 7.62x54R round with some silly iraqi buttstock fitted. RPK is a generally AK version with heavier, longer barrel and bipod firing the same round as AK 47 or 74 (so 7.62x39 or 5.45 round). RPK is More like SAW - although its not belt fed (mostly with standard 30 or 45 rnd mags, earlier fith 75 rnd drums)



http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=584225

Iraqis throw a bottle of gasoline on a U.S. supply truck after it came under attack on the Baghdad, Iraq, to Fallujah highway Monday April 12, 2004. The truck was then set ablaze. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=584231

Iraqis loots a U.S. supply truck after it came under attack on the Baghdad to Fallujah highway, in Baghdad, Iraq Monday April 12, 2004. (AP Photo/Abdel Kader Saadi)

First set afire and THEN loot? Man it must be a diffrent culture indeed...

:cantbeli:


Cool pics, Thx He!

[seruriermarshal]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=584225

F*** those Iraq sh*t !

:fork:

[Brozozo]

Don't the supply convoys have armed escorts?

[seruriermarshal]

Don't the supply convoys have armed escorts?

Perhaps need more soldiers in Iraq .

:(

[catdat]

I'm starting to get real pissed off with this AP Photograher Khalid Mohammed. Whenever he is around stuff happens.

Check this out:

http://www.sandstaff.com/Blogroll/Images/Weapons/Khalid%20Mohammed.htm

He just happened to be taking a pic when the IED went off? And he was just driving by I suppose when these Iraqis decided to attack this convoy? Note: There at least four Arab AP photographers taking those pics above as well.

[He219]

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/videodb/thumbnail/nmcn_040410_01-0.jpg
4/10/2004 Fleet News (http://www.news.navy.mil/management/videodb/player/video.aspx?id=2355)

[Rantanplan]

Give a good brave Soldier some sunglasses and he becomes immediately this PIMP attitude. :lol:

http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/LBOX/mini/972978.jpg

[seruriermarshal]

I'm starting to get real pissed off with this AP Photograher Khalid Mohammed. Whenever he is around stuff happens.

Check this out:

http://www.sandstaff.com/Blogroll/Images/Weapons/Khalid%20Mohammed.htm

He just happened to be taking a pic when the IED went off? And he was just driving by I suppose when these Iraqis decided to attack this convoy? Note: There at least four Arab AP photographers taking those pics above as well.

My friend , I think sh*t Mohammed is a spy . And in allies or ICDC have more Iraq spy .

[Catch22]

Give a good brave Soldier some sunglasses and he become immediately this PIMP attitude. :lol:

http://jccc.afis.osd.mil/LBOX/mini/972978.jpg

Yep Ranta...I guess its just "written in nature". Nobody cant help it, everyone must obey it. Just let me put my UVEX on... ah, there - now where's the mirror? :D

[He219]

Give a 'Rantanplan' some sunglasses and immediately this PIMP attitude. :lol:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/994573357407336b40516e.jpg
p-)

[Falco]

Goop pics woot

[usa320]

indeed- it does seem that whenever that photographer is around, **** happens. Perhaps hes working with the insurgents...

[catdat]

Out of curiosity I did a couple of searches. Khalid happens to be the guy that took the shots of our guys being strung up on that bridge. He also happens to be in place before many serious bomb attacks:

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0404/dis_delay.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-01-19-iraq_x.htm

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/1203/17iraq.html

If you weren't "in place" how could you be taking pictures of GI's arriving at the scene?

splash out

[HELEX]

He has also a Picture of an IED just exploding....... :roll:

[Truthsayer]

We also know that a french film-team was in NY and filmed the first airplane comming in and hitting the firt of the Twin-towers of WTC, under the faked reason of following and filming the NY Firefighters.

Those damn french!

[Seoulstriker]

Out of curiosity I did a couple of searches. Khalid happens to be the guy that took the shots of our guys being strung up on that bridge. He also happens to be in place before many serious bomb attacks:

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0404/dis_delay.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-01-19-iraq_x.htm

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/1203/17iraq.html

If you weren't "in place" how could you be taking pictures of GI's arriving at the scene?

splash out


that's really very interesting. :( i have shared your view in the past when things like this have been happening, but it was more toward israeli soldiers and palestinians (photogs aligning the camera so it looks like israeli soldiers are shooting at women/children, etc). this is very troubling and it has also been noted in iraq previously.

i'm going to do a little more searching.

[Seoulstriker]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=580952


Militiamen of radical Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr guard the entrance of Imam Ali's shrine in the holy city of Najaf, Iraq, Wednesday April 7 2004. They have replaced Iraqi police officers in guarding the shrine. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)


http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040404/capt.bag11404041500.iraq_bag114.jpg


A Salvadoran coalition soldier seeks protecting from incoming fire behind a wall in Kufa, Iraq (news - web sites), 15 kms north of Najaf, Sunday April 4, 2004. Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric. Four Salvadoran soldiers and at least 14 Iraqis died, and more than 130 people were wounded. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)


http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=576982


An unexploded device sits on the hood of a car as US soldiers investigate a the site of an attack on a U.S. convoy north of Baghdad Thursday April 1st 2004. An eyewitness said that the convoywas hit by mortar fire but the damage was more consistent with damage from a roadside IED (improvised explosive device). (AP PHOTO/Khalid Mohammed)



http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=576247
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=576250


Iraqis chant anti-American slogans as charred bodies hang from a bridge over the Euphrates River in Fallujah, west of Baghdad, Wednesday, March 31 2004. Enraged Iraqis in this hotbed of anti-Americanism killed four foreigners Wednesday, including at least one U.S. national, took the charred bodies from a burning SUV, dragged them through the streets, and hung them from the bridge. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)



there are several other photogs that do similar things but i just focused on khalid.

[HumanShield]

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploaded/uploaded-34754_large.jpg

High Res PLEASE!!

[He219]

You've got a point, catdat. Right now, the media are hunkered down in the Green Zone in fear of all the recent kidnappings resulting in the limited photographic selection ....

Brazil:

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235666.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r2532318597.jpg

A Brazilian police helicopter swoops over the Rocinha shantytown of Rio de Janeiro, April 12, 2004. Some 900 police officers were patrolling one of Rio de Janeiro's largest slums after eight people were killed in shootouts between drug gangs over the past three nights, police said. For years Rocinha was one the calmest of Rio's slums, or favelas as they are known locally, to the point where tourists visited on day-time excursions. *******/Sergio Moraes

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r2252460123.jpg

Brazilian policemen patrol the Rocinha shantytown of Rio de Janeiro, April 12, 2004. Some 900 police officers were patrolling one of Rio de Janeiro's largest slums after eight people were killed in shootouts between drug gangs over the past three nights, police said. For years Rocinha was one the calmest of Rio's slums, or favelas as they are known locally, to the point where tourists visited on day-time excursions. *******/Bruno Domingos

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r3678766596.jpg

A Brazilian policeman stands guard in the Rocinha shantytown of Rio de Janeiro, April 12, 2004. Some 900 police officers were patrolling one of Rio de Janeiro's largest slums after eight people were killed in shootouts between drug gangs over the past three nights, police said. For years Rocinha was one the calmest of Rio's slums, or favelas as they are known locally, to the point where tourists visited on day-time excursions. *******/Sergio Moraes *******

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r4071785531.jpg

Brazilian policemen stand guard in the Rocinha shantytown of Rio de Janeiro, April 12, 2004. Some 900 police officers were patrolling one of Rio de Janeiro's largest slums after eight people were killed in shootouts between drug gangs over the past three nights, police said. For years Rocinha was one the calmest of Rio's slums, or favelas as they are known locally, to the point where tourists visited on day-time excursions. *******/Bruno Domingos

Graphic Image! (http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235614.jpg)

**ED. NOTE: GRAPHIC CONTENT** Police carry the body of a person killed during a shootout in Rio de Janeiro's biggest shantytown Rocinha Monday, April 12, 2004. (AP Photo/Giuseppe Bizzarri)

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235630.jpg


U.S. Marines from the 1st Battalion 5th Marine Regiment knock in a door while conducting a house to house search for weapons and insurgents in Fallujah, Iraq Monday, April 12, 2004. (AP Photo/John Moore)


http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235595.jpg

U.S. Marines from the 1st Battalion 5th Marine Regiment prepare to cross a street during a house to house search for weapons and insurgents in Fallujah, Iraq Monday, April 12, 2004. (AP Photo/John Moore)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r4097766475.jpg

Marines with 1st Platoon, Company E, 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division watches over a captured insurgent in Falluja in this April 6, 2004 photo released April 12, 2004. The man was captured with tools used to make improvised explosive devices, the Marines said. A shaky truce between U.S. Marines and Sunni rebels held in Falluja April 12 after further talks to calm Iraq (news - web sites)'s bloodiest fighting since the war. Despite overnight clashes in Falluja, Iraqi mediators said they had secured an extension to a truce that gave the battered town some respite at the weekend. The Marines attacked rebels in Falluja last week in response to the murder and mutilation of four American private security guards ambushed in the town on March 31. (NO SALES, EDITORIAL USE ONLY) *******/HO/USMC/Sgt. Jose E. Guillen

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r49560623.jpg

Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr speaks to gathered reporters in the Iraqi city of Najaf in this October 14, 2003 file photograph. The U.S. military said April 12, 2004 it will capture or kill Iraqi Shi'ite Muslim cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who launched an anti-U.S. uprising by his militia and supporters this month. 'The mission of U.S. forces is to kill or capture Moqtada al-Sadr,' Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, commander of U.S. ground forces in Iraq (news - web sites), told reporters in the United States in a video link from Baghdad. *******/Jamal Saidi

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235670.jpg

**ADVANCE FOR MONDAY, APRIL 19** William M. Wilson from Miles, Texas, who served with the US Marine Corps during the Korean and Vietnam wars, touches a cross as he tours the American World War II cemetery at Colleville sur Mer, northwestern France, April 7, 2004. Sixty years after Allied troops landed ashore on D-Day, the sober expanse of white crosses has lost none of its power. (AP Photo/Franck Prevel)

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235667.jpg

**ADVANCE FOR MONDAY, APRIL 19** A U.S. Sherman tank sits outside the war memorial in Bayeux, northwestern France, April 7, 2004. President George W. Bush and a dozen other world leaders are expected to attend ceremonies marking the 60th anniversary of D-Day. (AP Photo/Franck Prevel)

[Rantanplan]

Give a 'Rantanplan' some sunglasses and immediately this PIMP attitude. :lol:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/994573357407336b40516e.jpg
p-)

exactly :lol:

[cut]

Give a 'Rantanplan' some sunglasses and immediately this PIMP attitude. :lol:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/994573357407336b40516e.jpg
p-)

exactly :lol:

;) p-)

[He219]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341780.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA935B48BE9C85B07

ANANTNAG, INDIA: An elderly Kashmiri Muslim man listens to a speech by the President of Kashmir's ruling party Meh****a Mufti (unseen) during a rally after she had filed her election nomination papers at Anantnag some 55kms south of Srinagar,12 April 2004. India's forthcoming elections will be held in five phases across the country from 20 April, as Kashmiri seperatists and rebels have called upon the people of Kashmir to boycott the elections. AFP PHOTO/Tauseef MUSTAFA (Photo credit should read TAUSEEF MUSTAFA/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341754.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D2EE58CDF15D06FE1

PANCHANKERNI, SRI LANKA: Female Sri Lankan Liberation Tigers for Tamil Eelam (LTTE) fighters loyal to Vellupalai Prabhakaran smile as they stand guard on a road near Panchankerni, 12 April 2004. Sri Lanka's renegade Tiger rebels led by Karuna abruptly ended fighting and disbanded to avoid a bloodbath in a battle against the superior forces of the main guerrilla group led by Prabhakaran. AFP Photo/Sena VIDANAGAMA (Photo credit should read SENA VIDANAGAMA/AFP/***** Images)

http://www.hok.dk/images/uploads/04_0412_irak3_daggry_b.jpg

Aktionen begyndte ved det første lys, da over 200 danske soldater rykkede ud til en lille by i nærheden af Al Qurnah og anholdt de fire personer.

http://www.hok.dk/images/uploads/04_0412_irak3_anholdelse_b.jpg

Anholdelserne og ransagningerne blev gennemført i samarbejde med det irakiske politi. Her ses soldater fra panserinfanterikompagniet sammen med nogle af de irakiske betjente.

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341832.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DDEE30E9859B57CB7

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines covers the advance of his unit in the industrial area south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. Marines have seized several weapon caches while conducting selective raids and securing this area. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342014.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DFACA1B0DD983F4F0

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: US marines from the First Battalion Fifth Marines take cover from snipers during a raid south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. Marines have seized several weapon caches while conducting selective raids and securing this area. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341823.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D4976681804BF706A

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341846.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DFFD27CDA584FE4B5

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341891.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D07FE5B3EBC1FF2B1

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341928.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DAEDE29CFACAAF6AA

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341944.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D9D87D661A0130ED2

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342008.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D5041A3EE0058031E

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: US marines from the First Battalion Fifth Marines search a room during a raid south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. Marines have seized several weapon caches while conducting selective raids and securing this area. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341881.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA2609B9071887E87

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341951.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA48CA58E8B50C156

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines tally up weapons and ammunitions found during a raid south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. Marines have seized several weapon caches while conducting selective raids and securing this area. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342065.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA485BD00CD0DB9A2

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: US marines from the First Battalion Fifth Marines, one of them holding a Kalashnikov (L), look at their picture taken with seized weapons after a raid south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. Marines have seized several weapon caches while conducting selective raids and securing this area. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341919.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D23592FC5CA28E8A5

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines talks to an Iraqi while his children look on during a raid south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. Marines have seized several weapon caches while conducting selective raids and securing this area. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342090.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D31CCD72BFDFEE64F

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: Iraqi children play near a US army Bradley armored vehicle guarding al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad 12 April 2004. Soldiers said they have found ammunition and propaganda material for wanted Shiite Muslim leader Moqtada Sadr's Mehdi Army militia at the university. AFP PHOTO/Nicolas Asfouri (Photo credit should read NICOLAS ASFOURI/AFP/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342077.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D4B2E5F48CFDC28CD

[Operation Ivy]

We also know that a french film-team was in NY and filmed the first airplane comming in and hitting the firt of the Twin-towers of WTC, under the faked reason of following and filming the NY Firefighters.

Those damn french!

:cantbeli:

GP today He219

(GP= good pics, its new internet slang :D )

[khukuri]

I dont see anything wierd with it, hes an arab and thus have much easier to know when **** is happening. He have much easier to find sources, intel, poeple who trust him when they call him and tell him ****s gonna happend. He is just another journalist. And the roles of them have been discussed before. They exist for one reason, show us other people whats happening, they shouldnt take a part of the conflict.

[Gordon]

I agree, as such he's basically a journalist embedded with insurgents, but he is a journalist, it's not like he shoots of a few rounds then takes a few pictiures. As to whether it's right or wrong that he doesn't give any information to the coalition, well look at the media all round the world.

[Spearin]

We also know that a french film-team was in NY and filmed the first airplane comming in and hitting the firt of the Twin-towers of WTC, under the faked reason of following and filming the NY Firefighters.

Those damn french!

WTF? :| Yep, I'm sure those journalists could have stopped that aircraft from hitting that building.... Some people....

Great photos as always He219 :D

[hank]

We also know that a french film-team was in NY and filmed the first airplane comming in and hitting the firt of the Twin-towers of WTC, under the faked reason of following and filming the NY Firefighters.

Those damn french!

I saw a documentary that featured these two French students that shot this film that you saw. They had scheduled a "day in the life" of a NYC fire house and by coincidence they were scheduled for 911. They were quite simply in the right place at the right time. They did not get video of the first plane hitting, only the second if memory serves. They were legit by all admissions, even the fire fighters they accompanied into the towers before they fell.

The footage they shot is horrific. While they are in the lobby you here these dull thuds and only later did the announcer tell you that it was people jumping and landing on the ground Powerful images and sounds.

Unless you have information which was excluded from this documentary, and you might I admit, I think you are jumping to unwarranted conclusions about these two French guys.

hank

[RomanS]

I don't think PK in the photo is Iraqi made.

It is most likely a Yugoslavian M84

http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/images/vojni/m86-m84/m84_1.jpg

[He219]

Good Point, Permski! Welcome back. p-)



http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342270.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED40DC3D92D0CB040E3F5412FD7087446

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342272.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED40DC3D92D0CB04044788FBE3F93A48B

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342268.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED40DC3D92D0CB0404D799B28C262A287

NAJAF, IRAQ - APRIL 12: U.S. Army soldiers from the 1-14 Infantry of Task Force Duke run a practice assault during a practice assault at forward operating base Duke on April 12, 2004 outside the holy city of Najaf, Iraq. Soldiers staged at the base are awaiting authorization for a possible mission into Najaf to destroy the al-Mehdi Army and capture or kill its' leader, the controversial Iraqi Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. (Photo by Scott Nelson/***** Images)

[Falco]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342065.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA485BD00CD0DB9A2

I wonder if it's the same one that "Mister Insurgency 2004" had ?

[catdat]

I dont see anything wierd with it, hes an arab and thus have much easier to know when **** is happening. He have much easier to find sources, intel, poeple who trust him when they call him and tell him ****s gonna happend. He is just another journalist. And the roles of them have been discussed before. They exist for one reason, show us other people whats happening, they shouldnt take a part of the conflict.


Let me paint you a picture...

Two of your buddies are sitting around and they say "we're bored lets go rob the 7-11". You over hear this and do nothing. You are part of this conspiracy or at least an accessory.
If you grab a comera and go along to take pictures - you're still at least an accessory.
If it's your job to take pictures and you go along and take pictures you are still an accessory.

It's OK if you're sitting around and you here about a crime and then you go and take pictures.
It's OK if you happen to be there by chance and take pictures.

I'm only saying this guy is always around, "johnny on the spot", when all kinds of **** goes down. If you believe he's doing this to just "show us what's happening" then you're suggesting he isn't paid for his pictures?

Please! next you'll tell me how my story is different and that none of those things he took pictures of were a criminal act.

splash out[/quote]

[Parzival]

We also know that a french film-team was in NY and filmed the first airplane comming in and hitting the firt of the Twin-towers of WTC, under the faked reason of following and filming the NY Firefighters.

Those damn french!
Those damn stupid Truthsayer!

[Denat]

This muslim motherf***** looks like a funny fat pig, but you don't have to be nice to become a fanatical leader :|
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r49560623.jpg

[Brozozo]

This muslim motherf***** looks like a funny fat pig, but you don't have to be nice to become a fanatical leader :|
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r49560623.jpg

Poor dental hygiene is all that I can say.

[Seoulstriker]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342065.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA485BD00CD0DB9A2

what is that device attached to the shoulder of the soldier? new communications device?

[HELEX]

Perhaps just a GPS?

[Denat]

This muslim motherf***** looks like a funny fat pig, but you don't have to be nice to become a fanatical leader :|
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040412/i/r49560623.jpg

Poor dental hygiene is all that I can say.

:roll: rofl

[memphiz]

GP He219 :D

Marines are bad ass

[G1]

We also know that a french film-team was in NY and filmed the first airplane comming in and hitting the firt of the Twin-towers of WTC, under the faked reason of following and filming the NY Firefighters.

Those damn french!
Those damn stupid Truthsayer!

Uuh, I thought he was being sarcastic? :|

[He219]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342065.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DA485BD00CD0DB9A2

what is that device attached to the shoulder of the soldier? new communications device?
http://www.specwargear.com/images/communication-ISR-1.jpg
USMC Inter-squad radio
;)

[Ratamacue]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341944.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D9D87D661A0130ED2

Knock-knock.

[shuravee]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341944.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D9D87D661A0130ED2

Knock-knock.

Busy ! :D

[nerdman]

I dont see anything wierd with it, hes an arab and thus have much easier to know when **** is happening. He have much easier to find sources, intel, poeple who trust him when they call him and tell him ****s gonna happend. He is just another journalist. And the roles of them have been discussed before. They exist for one reason, show us other people whats happening, they shouldnt take a part of the conflict.


Let me paint you a picture...

Two of your buddies are sitting around and they say "we're bored lets go rob the 7-11". You over hear this and do nothing. You are part of this conspiracy or at least an accessory.
If you grab a comera and go along to take pictures - you're still at least an accessory.
If it's your job to take pictures and you go along and take pictures you are still an accessory.

It's OK if you're sitting around and you here about a crime and then you go and take pictures.
It's OK if you happen to be there by chance and take pictures.

I'm only saying this guy is always around, "johnny on the spot", when all kinds of **** goes down. If you believe he's doing this to just "show us what's happening" then you're suggesting he isn't paid for his pictures?

Please! next you'll tell me how my story is different and that none of those things he took pictures of were a criminal act.

splash out

Jason Van Steenwyk (http://iraqnow.blogspot.com) is that you?

[catdat]

Jason Van Steenwyk (http://iraqnow.blogspot.com) is that you?

I like Jason but no, I am not him. Jason is a Capt. or Major and just returned from Iraq.

I was a 19K20C, an NCO, and I've been out a while.

[seruriermarshal]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342270.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED40DC3D92D0CB040E3F5412FD7087446

25 ID ......

woot woot woot

[nerdman]

I think it was the "Splash Out" and your location being Florida that led me to believe you might be Jason.

[FallenAngel]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342270.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED40DC3D92D0CB040E3F5412FD7087446

25 ID ......

woot woot woot

Not exactly the enviroment they are used to huh? :lol: (the 25th is stationed in Hawaii is it not? ;) )

[seruriermarshal]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342270.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED40DC3D92D0CB040E3F5412FD7087446

25 ID ......

woot woot woot

Not exactly the enviroment they are used to huh? :lol: (the 25th is stationed in Hawaii is it not? ;) )

I hear , 25 ID in north of Iraq ( Karkuk ) .

[catdat]

Yes, I can see that. Actually, I was also in Jason's National Guard Unit (1/124) back in the 90's. I hated it. It was straight-leg Infantry at the time. The only peeps with vehicles were the mortar plt. There's nothing quite like a mid-summer road march in South Florida.

"splash out" is common parlance:



(RADAR) (BTRY FDC), This is (Radar). Ready to observe, request shot and splash, 1 round, over.
(BTRY) FDC Request shot and splash, 1 round, out. (Wait for guns to fire.)
(BTRY) FDC (BTRY), Shot, over.
(RADAR) (BTRY), Shot, out.
(BTRY) FDC (BTRY), Splash, over.
(RADAR) (BTRY), Splash, out.
(RADAR) (BTRY FDC), Did-hit grid is _________, over.
(BTRY) FDC Did-hit grid _______, out. (At this point (BTRY) makes corrections.) NOTE: Subsequent adjust rounds may be required.
(RADAR) (BTRY FDC), This is (Radar), fire for effect, request shot and splash, over.
(BTRY) FDC Fire for effect, request shot and splash, out.

[TOTEM]

WTF keep the truce going on???
Any minute gained for this "guys" will be used to put mines y every access of falluhyah!

CatDat you're right about this ****ing journalist!!!
One thing is inform what's going on and other is show burnned people hanging of a bridge and a lot of idiots crying ala is great.
Is good to show pictures, but is wrong to show it as a achievement.
This guy is doing this all the time.

[squeak]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341598.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D1337EA456FA4BD11

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: A truck carrying a US army tank drives toward Baghdad's International Airport 12 April 2004. Seventy soldiers from the US-led coalition and 10 times that number of Iraqis have been killed in clashes in Iraq since April 1, a senior US military official said. AFP PHOTO/Antonio SCORZA (Photo credit should read ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/***** Images)



I like this idea, transporting a armoued vehivcle thru the streets can be a bit of a challenge. So it makes sense to put guys in the turrets.

[seruriermarshal]

Yes , CatDat , perhaps we must notice terrorists announcer .

[seruriermarshal]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341598.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4D1337EA456FA4BD11

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: A truck carrying a US army tank drives toward Baghdad's International Airport 12 April 2004. Seventy soldiers from the US-led coalition and 10 times that number of Iraqis have been killed in clashes in Iraq since April 1, a senior US military official said. AFP PHOTO/Antonio SCORZA (Photo credit should read ANTONIO SCORZA/AFP/***** Images)



I like this idea, transporting a armoued vehivcle thru the streets can be a bit of a challenge. So it makes sense to put guys in the turrets.

If terrorists attack by RPG ......

:(

[hank]

Let me paint you a picture...

Two of your buddies are sitting around and they say "we're bored lets go rob the 7-11". You over hear this and do nothing. You are part of this conspiracy or at least an accessory.
If you grab a comera and go along to take pictures - you're still at least an accessory.
If it's your job to take pictures and you go along and take pictures you are still an accessory.

It's OK if you're sitting around and you here about a crime and then you go and take pictures.
It's OK if you happen to be there by chance and take pictures.

I'm only saying this guy is always around, "johnny on the spot", when all kinds of **** goes down. If you believe he's doing this to just "show us what's happening" then you're suggesting he isn't paid for his pictures?

Please! next you'll tell me how my story is different and that none of those things he took pictures of were a criminal act.

splash out

Not part of any conspiracy and probably not an accessory - both require overt acts - omissions will not do the trick. I see your point but don't think that knowledge that a crime might take place makes you anything illegal. Now if you are at the 7-11 and they say "let's rob it" and then you see them put on masks and take out thier guns you might have a problem. Even then, if you reasonably feared for your safety and took no overt action I don't think you'd be an accessory or part of a conspiracy.

hank

[Operation Ivy]

GP He219 :D

Marines are bad ass

Like how you used GP woot

[catdat]

hank

Wrong. Even if he was a lawyer, Attorney/Client privilede would not extend to acts that result in imminent death or substantial bodily harm.

And I'm not talking about a lawyer and his "clients". We're discussing a Journalist. Following you're analogy, if you over heard two people planning to assassinate President Kennedy in Dealey Plaza on Nov, 22, 1963 that would be OK. No crime committed by omission?

[elguapo]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20040412/mdf523784.jpg

I have to ask, what is that gun? :-0

[hank]

hank

Wrong. Even if he was a lawyer, Attorney/Client privilede would not extend to acts that result in imminent death or substantial bodily harm.

And I'm not talking about a lawyer and his "clients". We're discussing a Journalist. Following you're analogy, if you over heard two people planning to assassinate President Kennedy in Dealey Plaza on Nov, 22, 1963 that would be OK. No crime committed by omission?

Sorry catdat - read some on this subject.

Conspiracy requires overt acts. Simple knowledge of possible criminal acts will not satisfy the requirment. I don't know where the a/c privilege comes in I'm talking about anybody. Knowledge of criminal acts beforehand does not make somebody part of a conspiracy. Nearly all the criminal statutes in the US require some overt act OR an omission when you have a duty to act. Absent some special circumstances there is no duty to inform the police of future criminal activity. NO duty means no conspiracy.

Same goes for accomplice. You have to do somehting that furthers the crime to be an accomplice. Simply being with someone before they commit a crime is not enough. My point about the fear of danger was that even if you did have a duty to tell, and you don't, the fact that if you felt like they would kill you if you told would put you in a catch 22. Killed if you tell, accomplice if you don't. That is not a crime.

The Dealey plaza example you offer makes no sense. Do I know they will do it? How do I know? What if they are lying? Our criminal justice system simply does not make it a crime to know about a crime and not tell. Its just that simple. You have to recognize that knowing about a possible future act is much different from being involved. By your logic if you tell me that you will speed on your way to work and I do nothing I might face a fine. That makes no sense unless I give you some advice or help you drive or something like that. That is just the way our system works. You are only guilty of a crime when you DO something illegal, simple knowledge of possible future crimes is not illegal.

I'm not ragging on you, but these types of comments really get my attention. So much misinformation about the "law". Check my profile if you doubt me. I have several criminal law textbooks here at the house and I consulted them before I posted.

All that being said, there may be a great argument that this "journalist" has more than knowlege. If so then everything changes. Maybe he suggests a location so he can be there ahead of time. That is a conspiracy and he is an accomplice. But just knowing and going ahead of time to get a photo, while repugnant, is not illegal. Sorry.

hank

[Seoulstriker]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20040412/mdf523784.jpg

I have to ask, what is that gun? :-0

it's already been answered:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12197

[elguapo]

oops ...

tnx

[Jack Mehoff]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3342270.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED40DC3D92D0CB040E3F5412FD7087446

25 ID ......

woot woot woot

Not exactly the enviroment they are used to huh? :lol: (the 25th is stationed in Hawaii is it not? ;) )

I'm pretty sure they spent plenty of quality times in Fort Irwin in the Mojave desert for training.

[Haiw]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235670.jpg

**ADVANCE FOR MONDAY, APRIL 19** William M. Wilson from Miles, Texas, who served with the US Marine Corps during the Korean and Vietnam wars, touches a cross as he tours the American World War II cemetery at Colleville sur Mer, northwestern France, April 7, 2004. Sixty years after Allied troops landed ashore on D-Day, the sober expanse of white crosses has lost none of its power. (AP Photo/Franck Prevel)
I've been there, it's pretty impressive.

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7235/7235667.jpg

**ADVANCE FOR MONDAY, APRIL 19** A U.S. Sherman tank sits outside the war memorial in Bayeux, northwestern France, April 7, 2004. President George W. Bush and a dozen other world leaders are expected to attend ceremonies marking the 60th anniversary of D-Day. (AP Photo/Franck Prevel)
Actually, what you see in the picture is a war museum not a memorial. There's several tanks in front of it (even a Crocodile woot). It's one of the best museums around there. BTW maybe they say memorial because there's a British war cemetary right across the street there.

[haze99]

Good eye!! Catch 22, that was a "PKM", actually a Yugoslav M-84! **good post PermskiiOMON!

Gents, don't forget, elements of the US Army's 25th ID (L) are also in Afghanistan! (with the 10th Mtn Div (L) and the 172nd Inf Bde (L)

[HKFIN]

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3341239.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=05C75DE4731A7B4DD54FCBBCDDD7FAF0
[quote]FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the First Battalion Fifth Marines carry a Russian made RPK machinegun taken from Sunni Muslim insurgents near the industrial sector south-east of Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 12 April 2004. The ceasefire in this Iraqi town has been extended until tonight, with the agreement of both US forces and insurgents, a mediator said. .AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

Its a PK (Puliemiot Kalashnikova) GPMG chambered 7.62x54R round with some silly iraqi buttstock fitted. RPK is a generally AK version with heavier, longer barrel and bipod firing the same round as AK 47 or 74 (so 7.62x39 or 5.45 round). RPK is More like SAW - although its not belt fed (mostly with standard 30 or 45 rnd mags, earlier fith 75 rnd drums)


Thats not are nothing silly iraqi buttstock, it is Jugoslavian (Zastava) manufactured PKM!