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ed316
11-06-2006, 11:13 AM
[/URL]Madrid: 38,000-year jail terms sought




From CNN Madrid Bureau Chief Al Goodman

MADRID, Spain (CNN) -- Prosecutors in the Madrid train bombing case are expected to seek prison terms of about 38,000 years for each of the seven prime defendants in the trial due to start next February, a prosecution source has told CNN.
The long prison terms sought -- expected to be made public in a prosecution document on Tuesday -- would be for six suspected Islamic terrorists and also for a seventh man, born in Spain, who is accused of providing the others with explosives used in the attacks.
The long prison terms sought were calculated based on murder charges against the seven prime defendants for each of the 191 people who died in the attacks on Madrid commuter trains on March 11, 2004, and also for the attempted murders of the 1,824 others who were wounded, the prosecution source told CNN on Monday.
The trial is expected to last for months. The defendants -- if convicted of all the charges -- would serve only a maximum of 40 years in prison, under Spanish law, which prohibits the death penalty, the source said.
The train bombing case also has 22 other indicted defendants, mainly suspected Islamic terrorists but also including various Spaniards alleged to have been involved in explosives trafficking. These 22 defendants would face prison terms of 30 to 40 years each if convicted for their supporting roles in the attacks, the source said.
The prison terms that the prosecution is expected to seek were first published Monday in three leading Spanish newspapers -- El Pais, El Mundo and ABC -- and later confirmed by CNN with the prosecution source.
The seven prime defendants include three suspected Islamic terrorists thought to be among the ideologues of the attacks, and three other suspected Islamic terrorists suspected of actually putting some of the bombs on the four trains that were torn apart in the explosions.
The seventh prime defendant is Spanish born, considered a "necessary cooperator" in the attacks, by allegedly facilitating the explosives that were manufactured in Spain and stolen from a legitimate mine in the north.
Seven other key suspects in the bombings blew themselves up three weeks after the attacks in 2004 as police closed in on their hideout in a Madrid suburb. The seven dead suspects were thought to also have placed bombs aboard the trains, the source said.
The source said the prosecution document to be released on Tuesday would show that the idea for an attack by a terror group based in Spain -- but inspired by al Qaeda doctrine and terror techniques -- started after various al Qaeda operatives were arrested in late 2001, following the September 11th attacks in the United States.
The plot gained consistency after Spain sent troops to Iraq in support of the U.S.-led coalition there in 2003, and following a threat from Osama bin Laden in October 2003 against various countries, including Spain, the source said.
The prosecution document on Tuesday will say that the technique of using cell phones as timers, connected to the explosives, was a method copied from terrorist training in Afghanistan, the source said.
A panel of judges at the National Court ruled last Tuesday ruled that the investigative phase of the Madrid train bombings has concluded, and that the case is ready for trial.
The National Court is expected to hold the trial starting next February in a special courthouse on the outskirts of Madrid.

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silveykyle
11-06-2006, 01:47 PM
would serve only a maximum of 40 years in prison
Am I just reading this wrong or what?

Macs.
11-06-2006, 01:49 PM
Too bad they have no life long sentence.

ed316
11-06-2006, 01:53 PM
Am I just reading this wrong or what?

In some European countries "life" aint life. 20 to 40 seems to be the norm. I could be wrong. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jobu
11-06-2006, 01:58 PM
Prosecutors in the Madrid train bombing case are expected to seek prison terms of about 38,000 years for each of the seven prime defendants in the trial...

...the defendants -- if convicted of all the charges -- would serve only a maximum of 40 years in prison.



And then people have the nerve to say Saddam should have been tried in Europe.

Hiroshima
11-06-2006, 02:00 PM
38,000-year jail terms sought

<- I guess there's an argument to Cryogentics, huh?

seraosha
11-06-2006, 02:09 PM
If this isn't a good argument for the death penalty I'm not sure what more it would take.

Macs.
11-06-2006, 02:15 PM
And then people have the nerve to say Saddam should have been tried in Europe.

Use your head for a second.

Just a advice.

loganinkosovo
11-06-2006, 02:39 PM
Either put them in cells with people who lost relatives in the train bombings or rendition them to someplace that hangs and be done with it.

Avary
11-06-2006, 03:05 PM
38 000 (that's thirty-eight thousand) years term sought;

But only a maximum of 40 years would actually be served.

WTF is the point then? :cantbeli:

Hiroshima
11-06-2006, 03:07 PM
That's why you freeze them, then thaw them out every (38000 divided by 40) years, let them streatch their legs, then shove them back in.

Jobu
11-06-2006, 03:10 PM
Where's demolition man when you need him?

Avary
11-06-2006, 03:10 PM
That's why you freeze them, then thaw them out every (38000 divided by 40) years, let them streatch their legs, then shove them back in.

Ah.. Ok. ^_^

Hiroshima
11-06-2006, 03:19 PM
Though, what happens if someone forgets to unfreeze them? Does that constitute a violation of their rights under Spanish laws?

Holmer
11-06-2006, 10:52 PM
You have to remember that a life sentence does not always mean life in prison. Someone who gets "life" will always be in the prison system...whether it be in a jail or at home on parole. In Canada, a life sentence could actually mean a convict could be walking the streets after serving 15 years albeit rare but, it does happen. After serving 25 years in prison, everyone is entitled to be released on some kind of supervised parole unless the gov't can provide evidence that the convict is a danger to society if released.

Great system ain't it? Oh C-A-N-A-D-A! Our home and native land!....

LRPV
11-06-2006, 10:58 PM
<- I guess there's an argument to Cryogentics, huh?[/quote]


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