View Full Version : Gen. John Abizaid denounces Al Jazeera
FallenAngel
04-12-2004, 07:55 PM
Nothing new here....sadly, this type of reporting only results in more violence...
WASHINGTON - The commander of U.S. forces in Iraq (news - web sites) denounced two Arab television stations Monday, accusing them of lying about American attacks in the city of Fallujah.
Army Gen. John Abizaid said Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya were broadcasting false reports that American troops were deliberately targeting civilians in Fallujah.
The predominantly Sunni Muslim city west of Baghdad has been the site of fighting between insurgents and American troops after a mob mutilated the bodies of American security contractors killed in a March 30 ambush.
"They have not been truthful in their reporting," Abizaid said of the two television stations. "They haven't been accurate. And it is absolutely clear that American forces are doing their very best to protect civilians and at the same time get at the military targets there."
Anti-American protests erupted Friday in Cairo among crowds who supported the Fallujah insurgents. Jordan's King Abdullah, a key U.S. ally in the Middle East, sent relief supplies to the city, saying Fallujah was subject to "blockade, killing and destruction."
About 600 Iraqi dead, mostly civilians, were recorded by the main hospital and four clinics in Fallujah, hospital director Rafie al-Issawi told The Associated Press. U.S. officials say most of the dead probably were insurgents.
A tenuous cease-fire declared by the Americans in Fallujah appeared to be holding Monday, said Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the commander of U.S. ground troops in Iraq.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 08:09 PM
Al Jazeera support terrorists ! They are terrorists announcer !
:fork:
scm77
04-12-2004, 08:49 PM
Aljazeer is anti america? :cantbeli:
Al Jazeera support terrorists ! They are terrorists announcer !
:fork:
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists, I doubt they would be on air if they did.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 08:55 PM
Al Jazeera support terrorists ! They are terrorists announcer !
:fork:
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists, I doubt they would be on air if they did.
Why you know al jazeera do not fund terrorists ?
:roll:
usa320
04-12-2004, 08:59 PM
I dont know if they fund terrorists, but i definately find it disconcerting that everytime there is an act of terrorism anywhere in the world, al jazeera seems to be the first to know.
al jazeera is the widest reaching arab channel so it's an obvious choice if you want to get a message out in the middle east.
I don't know for sure but the US, Israel & the UK have the best intilligence services in the world, if al jazeera was found to fund terrorists the US would be told an they would love to have a legitimate reason to stop al-jazeera.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 09:12 PM
al jazeera is the widest reaching arab channel so it's an obvious choice if you want to get a message out in the middle east.
I don't know for sure but the US, Israel & the UK have the best intilligence services in the world, if al jazeera was found to fund terrorists the US would be told an they would love to have a legitimate reason to stop al-jazeera.
Ok , your meaning is US, Israel & the UK have the best intilligence services in the world , then AQ must have the best intilligence services in the world too ? then US, Israel & the UK = terrorists ?
:fork:
GrantT
04-12-2004, 09:17 PM
Al Jazeera support terrorists ! They are terrorists announcer !
:fork:
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists
What the hell cut? The guy said that Al Jazeera supports terrorists, how did you come to the conclusion that he meant fund them?
ariweiner
04-12-2004, 09:22 PM
A free press seems to be a myth when people aren't reporting the way we want... :roll:
Damian
04-12-2004, 09:30 PM
f**k al jazeera!
RomanS
04-12-2004, 09:35 PM
f**k al jazeera!
nice
short
to the point
and simple
bravo!
Al Jazeera support terrorists ! They are terrorists announcer !
:fork:
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists
What the hell cut? The guy said that Al Jazeera supports terrorists, how did you come to the conclusion that he meant fund them?
in that case I think he is shooting the messenger. There is no way he can say they support the terrorists.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 09:42 PM
Al Jazeera support terrorists ! They are terrorists announcer !
:fork:
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists
What the hell cut? The guy said that Al Jazeera supports terrorists, how did you come to the conclusion that he meant fund them?
in that case I think he is shooting the messenger. There is no way he can say they support the terrorists.
what's meaning support terrorists ?
al jazeera is the widest reaching arab channel so it's an obvious choice if you want to get a message out in the middle east.
I don't know for sure but the US, Israel & the UK have the best intilligence services in the world, if al jazeera was found to fund terrorists the US would be told an they would love to have a legitimate reason to stop al-jazeera.
Ok , your meaning is US, Israel & the UK have the best intilligence services in the world , then AQ must have the best intilligence services in the world too ? then US, Israel & the UK = terrorists ?
:fork:
what's meaning support terrorists ?
what are you on about? I cant work out what you mean. sorry
I would never call my own country terrorist so you can :fork: yourself
SeanAshi
04-12-2004, 09:55 PM
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists, They dont fund terrorist but they are anti-American
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 09:58 PM
al jazeera is the widest reaching arab channel so it's an obvious choice if you want to get a message out in the middle east.
I don't know for sure but the US, Israel & the UK have the best intilligence services in the world, if al jazeera was found to fund terrorists the US would be told an they would love to have a legitimate reason to stop al-jazeera.
Ok , your meaning is US, Israel & the UK have the best intilligence services in the world , then AQ must have the best intilligence services in the world too ? then US, Israel & the UK = terrorists ?
:fork:
what's meaning support terrorists ?
what are you on about? I cant work out what you mean. sorry
I would never call my own country terrorist so you can :fork: yourself
I don't know , then I ask you . I'm glad you never call your own country terrorist , But you aren't Al Jazeera :fork: .
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists, They dont fund terrorist but they are anti-American
they're not pro-american I'll give you that. and they aren't unbiased either but i think anti-american is to strong. Anti-american would be propaganda.
SeanAshi
04-12-2004, 10:07 PM
How about anti semitic?
Kilgor
04-12-2004, 10:08 PM
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
Korth
04-12-2004, 10:12 PM
Al Jazeera support terrorists ! They are terrorists announcer !
:fork:
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists, I doubt they would be on air if they did.
Al Jazeera does not fund terrorists, but Al Jazeera supports the terrorists with sympathetic spin on the news reporting. They are on the same side. It is possible that they share information.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:12 PM
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists, They dont fund terrorist but they are anti-American
they're not pro-american I'll give you that. and they aren't unbiased either but i think anti-american is to strong. Anti-american would be propaganda.
Really ? give me some examples ......
How about anti semitic?
yes they are probably anti-semitic
bollocks, al jazeera do not fund terrorists, They dont fund terrorist but they are anti-American
they're not pro-american I'll give you that. and they aren't unbiased either but i think anti-american is to strong. Anti-american would be propaganda.
Really ? give me some examples ......
that's my point, there are no concrete examples of it.
Korth
04-12-2004, 10:15 PM
How about anti semitic?
yes they are probably anti-semitic
I do not think that term applies as both Jews and Arabs are Semites.
It would be correct to say that Al Jazeera was anti-Jew.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:17 PM
How about anti semitic?
yes they are probably anti-semitic
I do not think that term applies as both Jews and Arabs are Semites.
It would be correct to say that Al Jazeera was anti-Jew.
Yes , Al Jazeera was anti-Jew .
goldman
04-12-2004, 10:17 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that Al Jazeera supports terrorism. They encourage Palestinian suicide bombers to strike against innocent people of Israel. And i agree with usa320, "that everytime there is an act of terrorism anywhere in the world, al jazeera seems to be the first to know". Plus advertising the al-Qaeda propagandas 24-7. This sends a clear message that they are anti US and the West. Therefore we should let them get away with this, Americans should kick them out of Iraq and Afghanistan (ASAP). What do arabs no about free press just look at there governments.
How about anti semitic?
yes they are probably anti-semitic
I do not think that term applies as both Jews and Arabs are Semites.
It would be correct to say that Al Jazeera was anti-Jew.
but I don't think anti-semtic has been used to mean anti arab in the past 100 years
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:20 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that Al Jazeera supports terrorism. They encourage Palestinian suicide bombers to strike against innocent people of Israel. And i agree with usa320, "that everytime there is an act of terrorism anywhere in the world, al jazeera seems to be the first to know". Plus advertising the al-Qaeda propagandas 24-7. This sends a clear message that they are anti US and the West. Therefore we should let them get away with this, Americans should kick them out of Iraq and Afghanistan (ASAP). What do arabs no about free press just look at there governments.
I think , now Al Jazeera made more terrorist and suicide bombers in Arab countries .
There is no doubt in my mind that Al Jazeera supports terrorism. They encourage Palestinian suicide bombers to strike against innocent people of Israel. And i agree with usa320, "that everytime there is an act of terrorism anywhere in the world, al jazeera seems to be the first to know". Plus advertising the al-Qaeda propagandas 24-7. This sends a clear message that they are anti US and the West. Therefore we should let them get away with this, Americans should kick them out of Iraq and Afghanistan (ASAP). What do arabs no about free press just look at there governments.
I don't think Al jazeera supports terrorism more then the average arab. free press is the reason why the US doesn't touch al-quaeda if it was a terrorist channel it would be taken off the air. There is no reason why they should not show what the people want, freedom of the press. al quaeda propaganda theory is pushing it in my opinion.
I don't understand how you can be so sure without having ever watched al-quaeda.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:26 PM
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
Yahoo is a true american company , So we can hear anti-american from yahoo .
But I can't hear anti-terrorist from Al Jazeera . Them aren't a true american style company , Maybe they are a terrorist style company .
Korth
04-12-2004, 10:26 PM
How about anti semitic?
yes they are probably anti-semitic
I do not think that term applies as both Jews and Arabs are Semites.
It would be correct to say that Al Jazeera was anti-Jew.
but I don't think anti-semtic has been used to mean anti arab in the past 100 years
But to say that Arabs are anti-Semitic is wrong when they themselves are Semites. Better to say that Arabs are anti-Jew because that is correct.
Korth
04-12-2004, 10:31 PM
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
That is an ignorant statement.
The liberal media has always spinned their reporting to favor liberal democrats over conservative republicans. CBS reporting of the Vietnam war had also undermined much of the US government's efforts there.
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
Yahoo is a true american company , So we can hear anti-american from yahoo .
But I can't hear anti-terrorist from Al Jazeera . Them aren't a true american style company , Maybe they are a terrorist style company .
I meant in terms of business (i.e. ratings) not support for america you fool
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:39 PM
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
Yahoo is a true american company , So we can hear anti-american from yahoo .
But I can't hear anti-terrorist from Al Jazeera . Them aren't a true american style company , Maybe they are a terrorist style company .
I meant in terms of business (i.e. ratings) not support for america you fool
American style company only in business ? you are fool !
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
Yahoo is a true american company , So we can hear anti-american from yahoo .
But I can't hear anti-terrorist from Al Jazeera . Them aren't a true american style company , Maybe they are a terrorist style company .
I meant in terms of business (i.e. ratings) not support for america you fool
American style company only in business ? you are fool !
sorry you're not a fool, you just don't have a clue what I'm writing, I take it back.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:45 PM
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
Yahoo is a true american company , So we can hear anti-american from yahoo .
But I can't hear anti-terrorist from Al Jazeera . Them aren't a true american style company , Maybe they are a terrorist style company .
I meant in terms of business (i.e. ratings) not support for america you fool
American style company only in business ? you are fool !
sorry you're not a fool, you just don't have a clue what I'm writing, I take it back.
I take it back too . Terrorism is a crime, so can't appraise the commercial behavior .
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
Yahoo is a true american company , So we can hear anti-american from yahoo .
But I can't hear anti-terrorist from Al Jazeera . Them aren't a true american style company , Maybe they are a terrorist style company .
I meant in terms of business (i.e. ratings) not support for america you fool
American style company only in business ? you are fool !
sorry you're not a fool, you just don't have a clue what I'm writing, I take it back.
I take back it too . Terrorism is a crime, so can't appraise the commercial behavior .
commercial behaviour comments were to do with arab governments not al quaeda ( I promise)
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:51 PM
It seems to spend more time denoucing jew and american actions that it does commenting on the many human rights violations by its own arab governments.
That's because they are a true american style company, they have to keep the government happy or they'll be banned in those countries.
Yahoo is a true american company , So we can hear anti-american from yahoo .
But I can't hear anti-terrorist from Al Jazeera . Them aren't a true american style company , Maybe they are a terrorist style company .
I meant in terms of business (i.e. ratings) not support for america you fool
American style company only in business ? you are fool !
sorry you're not a fool, you just don't have a clue what I'm writing, I take it back.
I take back it too . Terrorism is a crime, so can't appraise the commercial behavior .
commercial behaviour comments were to do with arab governments not al quaeda ( I promise)
Besides the commercial behavior, there are political behaviors in the government.
Besides the commercial behavior, there are political behaviors in the government.
yes, but what are you reffering to?
Trigger
04-12-2004, 10:53 PM
IMHO, Al-Jazeera is actively inciting the people in Iraq and elsewhere to commit acts of violence against coalition forces. I don't understand why they haven't been targeted for some kind of jamming or even a retaliatory strike of some kind. They make no attempt to disguise their contempt for coalition and especially American forces.
Personally I draw the line for 'Freedom of the Press' when they knowingly, purposefully distort the facts with the full knowledge of the response it will generate.
IMHO they are acting as a form of 'PSYOP' network against the coalition, and I think they need to be taken down.
seruriermarshal
04-12-2004, 10:57 PM
Besides the commercial behavior, there are political behaviors in the government.
yes, but what are you reffering to?
Whether emphasize the political behavior , that is decided by government .
Korth
04-12-2004, 11:11 PM
IMHO, Al-Jazeera is actively inciting the people in Iraq and elsewhere to commit acts of violence against coalition forces. I don't understand why they haven't been targeted for some kind of jamming or even a retaliatory strike of some kind. They make no attempt to disguise their contempt for coalition and especially American forces.
Personally I draw the line for 'Freedom of the Press' when they knowingly, purposefully distort the facts with the full knowledge of the response it will generate.
IMHO they are acting as a form of 'PSYOP' network against the coalition, and I think they need to be taken down.
I agree, lets hope that the CIA will pull something out of its bag of dirty tricks.
Trigger
04-12-2004, 11:13 PM
I'd settle for the USAF doing the deed. p-)
Korth
04-12-2004, 11:19 PM
Blow up a studio and they will build or lease another. Better to deplete their bank accounts and destroy their financial records. That will do more to destroy Al Jazeera.
Trigger
04-12-2004, 11:20 PM
Fine, ruin my fantasy... :D
Korth
04-12-2004, 11:25 PM
To finish off Al Jazeera, it would be necessary to send Mossad and CIA hit teams to snuff out the financial backers and management of Al Jazeera.
They all drop from mysterious illnesses and accidents.
One will get satisfaction from crossing the names off of the list.
Soulhunter
04-13-2004, 02:51 AM
The truth on the ground lies between US propaganda (Bush, Kimmit, Senor, etc) and Arab propaganda (Al-Jazeera etc).
Truthsayer
04-13-2004, 04:59 AM
IMHO, Al-Jazeera is actively inciting the people in Iraq and elsewhere to commit acts of violence against coalition forces. I don't understand why they haven't been targeted for some kind of jamming or even a retaliatory strike of some kind. They make no attempt to disguise their contempt for coalition and especially American forces.
Personally I draw the line for 'Freedom of the Press' when they knowingly, purposefully distort the facts with the full knowledge of the response it will generate.
IMHO they are acting as a form of 'PSYOP' network against the coalition, and I think they need to be taken down.
How about striking FOXNews then?
If lie'ing is wrong...
FREEDOOOOM - for the selected few.
Soulhunter
04-13-2004, 05:06 AM
At least Al-Jazeera shows real images of war and not the sanitized versions that would apparently shock sensitive US viewers too much ... Can't US viewers handle the truth that war is dirty and bloody? And that civilians get killed too?
Of course, they're also airing a lot of propagandist crap! But so does Foxnews.
seruriermarshal
04-13-2004, 08:37 AM
At least Al-Jazeera shows real images of war and not the sanitized versions that would apparently shock sensitive US viewers too much ... Can't US viewers handle the truth that war is dirty and bloody? And that civilians get killed too?
Of course, they're also airing a lot of propagandist crap! But so does Foxnews.
If Foxnews also shows real images of suicide bombers , then I will say :"Of course, they're also airing a lot of propagandist crap! But so does Al-Jazeera ?"
Korth
04-13-2004, 01:56 PM
IMHO, Al-Jazeera is actively inciting the people in Iraq and elsewhere to commit acts of violence against coalition forces. I don't understand why they haven't been targeted for some kind of jamming or even a retaliatory strike of some kind. They make no attempt to disguise their contempt for coalition and especially American forces.
Personally I draw the line for 'Freedom of the Press' when they knowingly, purposefully distort the facts with the full knowledge of the response it will generate.
IMHO they are acting as a form of 'PSYOP' network against the coalition, and I think they need to be taken down.
How about striking FOXNews then?
If lie'ing is wrong...
FREEDOOOOM - for the selected few.
Compare FOX news to the Left-Liberal media establishment, Fox news is far more balanced in its reporting.
You obviously are an enemy of the USA and wish to see the coalition efforts fail in Iraq. So go choke on a razorblade you socialist swine.
Truthsayer
04-13-2004, 02:01 PM
IMHO, Al-Jazeera is actively inciting the people in Iraq and elsewhere to commit acts of violence against coalition forces. I don't understand why they haven't been targeted for some kind of jamming or even a retaliatory strike of some kind. They make no attempt to disguise their contempt for coalition and especially American forces.
Personally I draw the line for 'Freedom of the Press' when they knowingly, purposefully distort the facts with the full knowledge of the response it will generate.
IMHO they are acting as a form of 'PSYOP' network against the coalition, and I think they need to be taken down.
How about striking FOXNews then?
If lie'ing is wrong...
FREEDOOOOM - for the selected few.
Compare FOX news to the Left-Liberal media establishment, Fox news is far more balanced in its reporting.
You obviously are an enemy of the USA and wish to see the coalition efforts fail in Iraq. So go choke on a razorblade you socialist swine.
Thanks for that qoute - you just made my day.
My question now: how many users on this forum is equaly ignorant?
Trigger
04-13-2004, 04:44 PM
Truthslayer wrote:
My question now: how many users on this forum is equaly ignorant?
Counting you: 1 p-)
injetores que chamejam
04-13-2004, 06:43 PM
Truthslayer wrote:
My question now: how many users on this forum is equaly ignorant?
Counting you: 1 p-)
I agree with you.
o único comunista bom é um comunista inoperante
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