Spetznatz squad fights off 667 Afghans

[Sayeret]

Anyone ever heard of Spetsnaz Post 8??? A small team part of a larger squad was separated from their squad. The warriors held out for 33 days with a small amount of food and Ice, boiling it from the ground around. When Russian forces returned to the scene of a last radio transmission they found approximately 679 corpses there, The small squad were the victims of countless assaults by rebel forces in the end the 12 men had managed to defend against 667 Islamic fundamentalists. 33 days went by before the radio was recharged. The small squad had 3 building to defend and a large field with a small trench and defensive mines scattered around. The report said 7 died from starvation and the other 5 died of Shrapnel. All soldiers survived until 5 days before Russian forces discovered them so the report says.

Has anyone heard of this before or know if it is true? If you have heard about it please post a link with more information on it.

[Hellman109]

Do you have a link or reference?

Seems pretty absurd to me, you dont just "lose" 12 special force soldiers and not bother looking for a month.

I take what you said that it took 33 days for there radio to recharge? (and therfore send a signal notifying the ruskies?) I cant think of ANY type of radio that would take that long, solar takes a few hours in the sun, crank takes a minute max, normal batteries would be dead dead, etc.

ALso, you would radio in saying "we are fkn lost come find us ASAP" and you cant say a battery would die the second they lost contact with the main group.

Also, if your starving and there are a few hundred corpses around, you got ureself a meal (better then dying no?) or you would move to find food, spetznatz wouldnt sit there and die.

Also, would they carry enough ammo to kill off 600 odd soldiers? That's an awful lot of ammo to carry.


No offense, but I cant see it being more then a modern myth.

[American Patriot]

Permskii ?

[ShotOver]

hahahaha, suuuuuuure they did.

[stuntman]

Also, would they carry enough ammo to kill off 600 odd soldiers? That's an awful lot of ammo to carry.
Well maybe this is true for speztnatz were maybe issued ak 47! And last time I checked Af is loaded with ak ammo.

The rest of the report seems like bs.

[American Patriot]

Maybe if they called in arty.

[RomanS]

It happened!

16 OBR or Hist2004 would have more details.

They did a special long time ago on "Sluju Sovetskomu Souzu" (Serving USSR) TV program. I was young, but I remember crying when they were talking about them.

Accept as I remember correctly, they set themselves on fire when more mudj came in, and that detonated all the explosives they had inside.

[MEGR]

Spetnaz are cool and all, but that seems a little exagerrated.. Its like in the book "The Hunt for Bin Laden" when a 3 or 4 man SF group called in a b52 strike killing 400 taliban soldiers.

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I heard something about this. Hopefully Hist2004 or OBR can clear up whats fact from fiction.

[stuntman]

Spetnaz are cool and all, but that seems a little exagerrated.. Its like in the book "The Hunt for Bin Laden" when a 3 or 4 man SF group called in a b52 strike killing 400 taliban soldiers.

Well the b52 part makes that all credible!

[Midav]

It might very well be true.

Perhaps they captured ammo from dead Afghanis.

There is a story of a US spec force unit that was discovered during the first GW in 1991.

They quickly were surrounded by Iraqi soldiers and a battle ensued. The US force quickly destroyed its equipment so it wouldn't get captured if they were overrun and duked it out. They eventually called in CAS so they could get airlifted to safety.

Supposedly over 110 Iraqi's were killed alone by the spec force guys in that period.

That's why I say it's very plausible that the spetsnaz story is true.

[shorty]

The SF guys were in a hide site and got discovered by a (?)goat herder(?). I heard that somewhere. But they did call in CAS and blasted a road plus people to kingdom come.

[Midav]

Exactly! Same story I heard.

[hist2004]

I have never heard of “Spetsnaz Post 8”. I believe the incident this story is derived from comes from a battle that occurred toward
the end of the war during the last major Soviet offensive operation call “Operation Magistral”. The battle has some detail to it so
I will give a synopsis in the interest of space. During the battle of Srana, on hill 3234 (for it’s height) the 9th company of the 345
Regiment (VDV) held off a sizable force of Pakistani “black Storks” dressed in Mujahideen garb that were helicoptered into the fight.
They numbered from 400 to 450 and quickly closed to hand-to-hand range against the 9th company.
To say the efforts of the 9th company were heroic wouldn’t do them justice. At one point they had been subjected to 1500 rounds of
various ordnance in a tight perimeter. Only the surrounding rocks and rock shelters they were able to assemble saved them. Ammunition
was critically low and by the time they were re-supplied some soldiers only had 15 rounds left. Soldiers became infested with lice, and
had to strip naked and boil clothes in water to rid it.

The term “Spetsnaz” has been tossed around quite frequently in the past few years. It’s applied to SORB, OMON, VITAZ, APLHA, etc. During
the Soviet-Afghan war “Spetsnaz” applied to those forces of the GRU. All operations were detailed in their planning and helicopter and
artillery support was provided for each operation. The idea that a group would be left of their own accord for 33 days and then for the survivors
to name it “post 8” is the work of fiction. The sheer size of a Spetsnaz unit in the field wouldn’t allow for such an extended defense. Also, with
all the spies that the Soviets had amongst the mujahideen and with the KHAD (afghan intelligence) operating everywhere, is it feasible to
assume that the Soviets would allow such an extended battle to occur without support or at least investigating the source of gunfire?
The average Spetsnaz group carried individual combat loads of 450-600 rounds. In a protracted battle, automatic fire would have consumed
their ammunition long before “33 Days”, despite what they might have recovered from Mujahideen fighters (who were armed with 7.62 AK’s).
When the mujahideen were able to locate a spetsnaz group they quickly tried to reinforce and overwhelm the unit before reinforcements could
arrive. The atrocity ****e afghan mujahideen meant that surrounded spetsnaz soldiers would commit individual or group suicide.

Regards,
Hist2004

[G1]

The SF guys were in a hide site and got discovered by a (?)goat herder(?).

Those pesky goat herders, didn't the same thing allegedly happen to the SAS Bravo-2-0 patrol during the same war? Goat herders, the bane of spec ops everywhere!

[usa320]

when a 3 or 4 man SF group called in a b52 strike killing 400 taliban soldiers.

Whats so exaggerated about that?

B-52 can carry like 80 500lb bombs...GPS guided...

Not to mention the Taliban cant shoot for ****.

[Russian Texan]

Not to mention the Taliban cant shoot for ****.

How would you know, participated in any firefights against them?
Once you grow up, travel to few places, meet people from other countries and cultures, you'll realize(hopefully) that there are more to this world than just USA.
Other countries have their own SF, thier own marksmen, etc. and guess what - they think that their military is "da ****'", the best, kick ass and such....

BTW, a lot of afghans, if not everyone, grow up with guns in hands - sort of like back in the American frontier times. So if I would bet who is a better shot: an average 18 year old Russian, American, European or an Afghan, guess who am I going to put my money on....

[16 OBr SpN]

Anyone ever heard of Spetsnaz Post 8??? A small team part of a larger squad was separated from their squad. The warriors held out for 33 days with a small amount of food and Ice, boiling it from the ground around. When Russian forces returned to the scene of a last radio transmission they found approximately 679 corpses there, The small squad were the victims of countless assaults by rebel forces in the end the 12 men had managed to defend against 667 Islamic fundamentalists. 33 days went by before the radio was recharged. The small squad had 3 building to defend and a large field with a small trench and defensive mines scattered around. The report said 7 died from starvation and the other 5 died of Shrapnel. All soldiers survived until 5 days before Russian forces discovered them so the report says.

Has anyone heard of this before or know if it is true? If you have heard about it please post a link with more information on it.

I've never heard of anything like this! :lol:

1) You see, our carried ammo is enough for only 2-3 hours of a firefight. We are not even supposed to be in those kinds of firefights in the first place! Once spetsnaz unit is detected earlier than necessary, the unit is longer spetsnaz, but rather a regular infantry.
2) We have a variety of procedures for this kind of situation. Those procedures are supposed to be in use in the maximum of 1 hour after the loss of contact or when units engage against a much numbered. Here it says "33 days"!! :lol:

There are other points but I don't want to go too deep into them. Anyways, this is just some kind of a fairytale.

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[Threelions]

certainly makes for a heroic story, and if it did happen then i hope all the guys were honoured as much as possible by the USSR. These kind of stories seem to circulate after every major combat incident. The earliest modern one i can think of was some gurkhas in the falkland war holding off a pile of argies. but i cant remember any of the details as this was something i picked up as a kid.

Cheers

[hist2004]

The earliest modern one i can think of was some gurkhas in the falkland war holding off a pile of argies. but i cant remember any of the details as this was something i picked up as a kid.

Try this link, it will clear up the Gurkhas story you heard:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11675

Regards,
Hist2004

[anonymous individual]

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[anonymous individual]

I think the Russian special forces are extremely darn good, but not THAT good.

If the story was true, I woudn't be surprise. If memory serves, Past Medal Of Honor winners had single handedly killed 100+ people.

[Threelions]

The earliest modern one i can think of was some gurkhas in the falkland war holding off a pile of argies. but i cant remember any of the details as this was something i picked up as a kid.

Try this link, it will clear up the Gurkhas story you heard:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11675

Regards,
Hist2004

thanks for the link. Its not the same thing i was thinking of, as i have heard about the argies turning tail and running from the ghurkas.

Cheers,