View Full Version : What is the legal way to transport a firearm?
Calculated
11-11-2006, 11:42 AM
In the trunk right?
BadKarma26
11-11-2006, 12:26 PM
unloaded, magazine seperated, in a trunk or locked box (in the bed of a truck for example)
Weasel
11-11-2006, 12:26 PM
In the trunk right?
Depends on the country.
Creeper
11-11-2006, 02:58 PM
Just leave on it the dash or rear window. really.
Laconian
11-11-2006, 06:46 PM
In the US there are no Federal guidelines for interstate transport of firearms (other than by US Mail or common carrier- FedEx, UPS), it is left up to the states. ATF used to publish a manual that had all the state statutes regarding F/A's but I haven't seen it in a while.
If you are travelling contact the State Police or Highway Patrol in the states you are passing through and find out. Its better that way than trying to explain your guns to the po-lice during a traffic stop...
American Patriot
11-11-2006, 07:10 PM
unconcealed in the front passenger seat
gaijinsamurai
11-11-2006, 07:45 PM
I think Laconian said it best. It all depends on where you are. Usually, either in the trunk or in plain view is best, but if you have a concealed permit, under the seat is fine where I am from.
Check with your local police dept. or sheriffs office.
Just a question, what will happen in the states to you if you transport a weapon in, let's say the glove compartment, will they have you arrested and prosecuted for that?
Here, in theory I'm sure they could have you prosecuted. But if you're just a regular guy it's not very likely the Police will ask for or search for weapons. And if they do I think it's a fair chance you will come off with a warning.
Geezah
11-12-2006, 03:57 PM
In Ohio I can transport a loaded handgun in the glove compartment so long as it is locked. This only applies to concealed carry permit holders. I can also have it loaded in a locked box on the passenger seat, or on my person so long as it is in plain sight, otherwise it is unloaded in the trunk.
Ok, thanks.
What do you guys think about this idea btw. A person moves to California and settles down in a rural area, applies for and gets a concealed carry permit. Then he moves into an urban area. Would he still be able to keep his CCW?
LaoSexMachine
11-12-2006, 04:59 PM
Ok, thanks.
What do you guys think about this idea btw. A person moves to California and settles down in a rural area, applies for and gets a concealed carry permit. Then he moves into an urban area. Would he still be able to keep his CCW?
CHL is regulated by the state not the city. As long as that state allows it then I see no problem. IIRC.
gaijinsamurai
11-12-2006, 08:32 PM
I've heard that it's very, very difficult to get a concealed permit in California.
CFMIKE
11-12-2006, 08:37 PM
loaded with the safety off and tucked snuggly in your wasteband
kamarian
11-12-2006, 09:13 PM
loaded with the safety off and tucked snuggly in your wasteband
I think that will be a problem since he just bought an AK. but it has a folding stock, so it might work!
BillySing
11-12-2006, 10:51 PM
with most of my expensive rifles have thier own hardcases with a lock, but for my other more agricultural firearms I have a beretta gun bag, which is reinforced with steel mesh, making it slash and hack proof.
Remington Rand
11-13-2006, 01:58 AM
unloaded, magazine seperated, in a trunk or locked box (in the bed of a truck for example)
This is correct as far as I know. Different states (possibly you are out of the US) may have different rules.
In California, the rules are that the weapon needs to be fully locked up and ammo needs to be separate. The one caveat is that the glove box doesnt count- a locked case or in the trunk is good to go though. RR
CHL is regulated by the state not the city. As long as that state allows it then I see no problem. IIRC.
Maybe there's hope for Calefornia. :)
I've heard that it's very, very difficult to get a concealed permit in California.
Correct, but from what I've read it's somewhat less troublesome in the rural areas.
Geezah
11-13-2006, 08:39 AM
Maybe there's hope for Calefornia. :)
Yes there is, when the firearm owners up root and move to the mid-west and Commiefornia breaks off and falls into the Ocean.
onefast93z28
11-13-2006, 01:17 PM
Maybe there's hope for Calefornia. :)
Correct, but from what I've read it's somewhat less troublesome in the rural areas.
http://www.packing.org/state/california/image.php?stateimage=118
Virginia:
Based on the statute and decisions rendered by the Supreme Court, a weapon is considered to be concealed at anytime it is placed in a location as to be within reach of the person, without the person being required to make an overt act to retrieve such weapon, when such weapon is hidden from common observation. Placing a weapon under the seat, on the seat hidden from common observation, or at any location from which the weapon can readily be retrieved is considered to be concealed. A person carrying a weapon in the glove compartment of an automobile, if the person does not have a permit or otherwise fall within any statutory exemption, is a violation of §18.2-308(A),unless some particular fact or circumstance renders the weapon inaccessible.
StukaJr
11-13-2006, 03:04 PM
Maybe there's hope for Calefornia. :)
Correct, but from what I've read it's somewhat less troublesome in the rural areas.
CCW's are renewed every 2-3 years and many of the California Counties make it more of a re-application process than a simple renewal... I guess if you keep that rural adress and live at least two months out of a year in it - then you'll have no problem. I do believe you have to notify of adress changes in such instances. It used to be that CCW's were granted in Counties where individual had no residence - that loophole got shot down pretty fast though.
As for topic:
California requires all firearms to be transported in a locked container with ammunition separate - locked in a trunk of a car is fine. It can't be in a glove compartment (loaded or not) nor can it be concealed anywhere in the salon of a car. If it's not in a trunk, then the container has to be locked with no ammo in the container nor the firearm. Displayed unloaded firearm is a common sense no-no - a sight of anything that looks like a gun where a person can see it can bring on a brandishing charge by about any large City Ordinance.
Calling any attention to firearms tends to get more attention from simple traffic stops - so while I find Second Ammendment stickers hillarious or having my backseat littered with casings makes a good conversation at the parties, I generally don't... What flies in one county maybe a ticket and prolonged stay in another, so I tend to abide the worst of laws - anecdotal or not.
Createdeemcee
11-13-2006, 03:09 PM
Just leave on it the dash or rear window. really.
Thats fine for rifles, but handguns are different carring them around in seperate states. Here in MD I can take my pistol only to/from Work, To/From the gun shop, and to?from the range only. Im working on getting a conceal permit but its darn tuff here. If I go to VA i put it on the hip visable, same thing when Im in WV. Fact is its different every where you go. Pretty wied that they let us ride around with assault rifles, but not hand guns. I think our crime rate would deminish if so.
Question : What is the Legal way to transport a firearm ?
Answer : Safely !
S - Safety catch ON Wepon UNLOADED.
A - Ammo locked up separately.
F - Firearm locked up separatley.
E -
L - Learn your Law's.
Y - "Y" because you have too.
Just came to me but what could "E" be , anyone ?
Hydro
11-13-2006, 04:11 PM
Loaded, made ready, and in the shoulder.
I'mOnlyHalfPolish
11-14-2006, 12:47 AM
I think Laconian said it best. It all depends on where you are. Usually, either in the trunk or in plain view is best, but if you have a concealed permit, under the seat is fine where I am from.
Check with your local police dept. or sheriffs office.
if i remember correctly certain states will honor your CHL, not every state but some will honor it depending on your particular state...i remember being shown a map of the states that honored texas CHL's and it was an odd mix and believe it or not they were all border states...
onefast93z28
11-14-2006, 02:08 AM
http://www.packing.org/state/texas/image.php?stateimage=145
States that honor a texas CHL
I'mOnlyHalfPolish
11-14-2006, 11:50 AM
http://www.packing.org/state/texas/image.php?stateimage=145
States that honor a texas CHL
hey thanks, yeah im not sure if the guy who started the thread is from texas or not...but that will still help me though!
Geezah
11-14-2006, 01:02 PM
Indiana honours nearly every CCL out there, there is no agreement between Ohio and Indy but I can still carry over the border, really strange but it works.
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