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Baltic
11-13-2006, 02:49 PM
I hope it is not repost.


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Andreas
11-13-2006, 02:53 PM
Ehm cool pics but how do you post your pics?
Im asking because this effect is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Stupid. Get it?

Cheers
Andreas

Ratamacue
11-13-2006, 02:59 PM
This was at the air show at the Pensacola Naval Air Station on Saturday. I had front row seats for it. Quite an impressive Super Hornet demonstration, but the aircraft blew a tire on landing, and spun off the runway a little further down. Very dangerous situation, but handled rather well by the pilot.

Fade
11-13-2006, 03:05 PM
Ehm cool pics but how do you post your pics?
Im asking because this effect is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Stupid. Get it?

Cheers
Andreas

WTF are you talking about?

2Sheds_Jackson
11-13-2006, 03:11 PM
Somebody's going to have to fill out a payroll deduction form.

whutitdewboi713
11-13-2006, 03:29 PM
it says bandwidth exceeded. can u re-up the pictures?

phoilme
11-13-2006, 03:38 PM
If an F-22 canopy cost $185,000.00 to replace, what does a tire for an F-18? Looks like a bit of wing damage too. For that they can use the handyman's secret weapon. I have seen tail sections of F-18's splitting apart due to corrosion from salt.

GilbertDK
11-13-2006, 03:41 PM
Ooh, i need to get into the F-22 canopy manifacturing business... :-D

nick_ua
11-13-2006, 03:53 PM
Quite an impressive Super Hornet demonstration, but the aircraft blew a tire on landing, and spun off the runway a little further down. Very dangerous situation, but handled rather well by the pilot.

yup. Looks like left tire blew up. Bad landing exectuted by pilots. Good recovery though

Fargin
11-13-2006, 04:00 PM
Baltic,

I recommend pushing enter after each closing image tag[/img] next time.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/crasca/tire1.jpg

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Like this:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/crasca/tire1.jpg Enter
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/crasca/tire2.jpg Enter
ect. ;)

But thanks for the pictures.

JVeld
11-13-2006, 04:23 PM
All I gotta say is Dammmmnnnnn..........good thing nothing happened to the pilot !

wicked_hind
11-13-2006, 04:31 PM
Looks like the brakes might have gotten a bit too hot as well......how embarrassing

BusterHyman
11-13-2006, 06:06 PM
I might hazard a guess here but it almost looks like both tires are blown. Not just a blown tire, unless you meant blown tires.

ejlee7829
11-13-2006, 08:21 PM
the Gladiators of VFA-106......F-18 FRS.............I was supposed to be stationed with that squadron when they were still at Cecil Field.

LthrnckZero
11-13-2006, 08:26 PM
yup. Looks like left tire blew up. Bad landing exectuted by pilots. Good recovery though


I wouldn't necessarily say that it was the pilot's fault yet. Tires blow up, **** happens. Maybe his anti-skid failed, or there was something on the runway, who knows.

-CROAT-SOLDIER-
11-13-2006, 08:38 PM
Ehm cool pics but how do you post your pics?
Im asking because this effect is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Stupid. Get it?

Cheers
Andreas

Nothing wrong with the picture size for me. Maybe try changing your screen rezolution?

baifrank
11-13-2006, 10:14 PM
what wrong with the super hornet?
the right tyre broken?

GrinchWSLG
11-13-2006, 10:36 PM
This happens, especially the way Navy pilots land. Nobody ever taught them the concept of the flare. ;)

Creeper
11-13-2006, 10:44 PM
This happens, especially the way Navy pilots land. Nobody ever taught them the concept of the flare. ;)

LOL! so true! (Flare, hell,,no way,, that takes all day,,,we got beer to drink ,,,women to screw!)

BTW, take that 'Flare-Approach' to the boat,, see how far it gets ya!

nick_ua
11-14-2006, 12:44 AM
I wouldn't necessarily say that it was the pilot's fault yet. Tires blow up, **** happens.
well yes, not necessarily, but more likely vertical speed was to high.

Creeper
11-14-2006, 12:55 AM
well yes, not necessarily, but more likely vertical speed was to high.

Close,,

"Rate of Descent" is probably what U R thinking.
;-)

BadKarma26
11-14-2006, 01:00 AM
Yah when I worked at the aeropuerto way back when navy pilots would come in and just slam that sucker onto the runway. I always thought it was just practicing landing on the carrier, but has to just be hell on the hydraulic systems in the gear

Ratamacue
11-14-2006, 01:03 AM
Yah when I worked at the aeropuerto way back when navy pilots would come in and just slam that sucker onto the runway. I always thought it was just practicing landing on the carrier, but has to just be hell on the hydraulic systems in the gearThat's why you can't just take any old aircraft, stick a hook on it, and land it on a carrier. Navy aircraft have to have heavily reinforced undercarriages. If you tried to land an F-16 on a carrier, the results would most likely not be pretty.

abhijit
11-14-2006, 01:28 AM
Is there any scope to the logic that the pilots are taught to land heavy as there be some amount of spring-back from the carriers deck as opposed to any spring back from a land run-way.

maybe it just slipped out of his mind that he was not landing on a ship or maybe it was part of the demo to show in how short a distance the hornet can stop?

comments anybody?

usm2b
11-14-2006, 03:23 AM
I bet the NFO was like "YOU ****ING THING!!! What did you DO!?!?" He even looks like he's going to punch the pilot in the pic where he is standing on the fuselage.

Really though...**** does happen. Thank God the pilot and NFO were ok.

Deftoner
11-14-2006, 03:41 AM
A little gif to put things in motion
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Creeper
11-14-2006, 04:45 AM
Is there any scope to the logic that the pilots are taught to land heavy as there be some amount of spring-back from the carriers deck as opposed to any spring back from a land run-way.

maybe it just slipped out of his mind that he was not landing on a ship or maybe it was part of the demo to show in how short a distance the hornet can stop?

comments anybody?

IMO: Navel / Marine flying any ship based a/c develop a technique of approaches and traps / landing roll outs,,, and they stick with it. OK, there is a 10-12'000 ft rnwy, so what, do what is taught from day one at P-cola, what counts is the technique(s) that keeps everyone alive coming aboard.
Perhaps the pilot forgot to flip the "anti-skid" on,, who knows,,,, maybe he was fuel heavy on RTB approach,,,

Navel a/c are designed for carrier landings, thus must be flown accordingly,

A few of the seasoned Navy/Marine pilots will touch-n-go on the boat w/o tapping the nose wheel down,just the mains, I got up to do the same with a Cessna -172, surprised with the minimal amount of runway I took up,so I push up and level as i zoom down toward the opposite end @ 20 ft off the concrete, with 100knts +/- , do a -50 deg, pull-up at the fence, Navy pilots do the same,,

always Ripping.

AlphaOneSix
11-14-2006, 08:28 AM
Is there any scope to the logic that the pilots are taught to land heavy as there be some amount of spring-back from the carriers deck as opposed to any spring back from a land run-way.


If you mean what I think you mean, then no, there is no "spring back" on a carrier deck. The carrier moves, this is true, but the aircraft is nowhere near heavy enough to have any effect at all on the ship itself. And the deck itself is several inches of concrete, it doesn't "spring back" either.

getl0st
11-14-2006, 09:00 AM
This was at the air show at the Pensacola Naval Air Station on Saturday. I had front row seats for it. Quite an impressive Super Hornet demonstration, but the aircraft blew a tire on landing, and spun off the runway a little further down. Very dangerous situation, but handled rather well by the pilot.

C'mon, he did a hand-brakey for the crowd, showin off and putin on a bit of a show.





He did a good job, could have easily tipped the plane over. I like how he had the front wheels crossed up like he was driving a car, very nice.

Hawk of prairie
11-14-2006, 09:16 AM
wow,amazing photos!!!

AK74
11-14-2006, 10:44 AM
DORRRIFFFTO!!!!
um, yeah?

Hutz
11-14-2006, 10:57 AM
This happens, especially the way Navy pilots land. Nobody ever taught them the concept of the flare. ;)

From what I've seen here, there's really no such thing as greasing a landing in an 18. Even the CF-18 that we have never land with much flare, they just kinda drop onto the runway.

gaz
11-14-2006, 11:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/66K8WXQvb90

gunnergoz
11-14-2006, 03:26 PM
If you mean what I think you mean, then no, there is no "spring back" on a carrier deck. The carrier moves, this is true, but the aircraft is nowhere near heavy enough to have any effect at all on the ship itself. And the deck itself is several inches of concrete, it doesn't "spring back" either.
Don't you mean "several inches of armor plate steel?" I've never seen a concrete carrier...

AlphaOneSix
11-14-2006, 04:05 PM
Don't you mean "several inches of armor plate steel?" I've never seen a concrete carrier...

Indeed I do. I'm on crack. Sorry.

LthrnckZero
11-19-2006, 08:53 PM
Yah when I worked at the aeropuerto way back when navy pilots would come in and just slam that sucker onto the runway. I always thought it was just practicing landing on the carrier, but has to just be hell on the hydraulic systems in the gear


Nail on the head. We practice landing with no flare because that's how we have to do it on the boat. We fly a consistent angle of attack all the way to touchdown.