View Full Version : 78 U.S. troops killed, 561 wounded 1st 12 days of April
ariweiner
04-13-2004, 10:56 AM
I didn't realize the wounded figure was that high.
78 Troops Killed This Month in Iraq
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WASHINGTON - At least 78 U.S. troops were killed and 561 were wounded in Iraq in the first 12 days of April, a senior Army general said Tuesday.
It is quickly becoming the deadliest month since the Iraq war began in March 2003. Since then, at least 674 U.S. troops have died, according to the Pentagon's figures.
Lt. Gen. Richard Cody, the deputy chief of staff for operations, said 41 of the 78 killed during April were Army soldiers; most of the rest were Marines. Of the 561 wounded troops, 297 were soldiers, Cody said.
The general also predicted that the flare-up in violence this month would soon ease, although he stressed that Iraq would continue to suffer periodic surges of violence for a long time.
"I think it is a last-ditch effort" by the insurgents to derail U.S. plans to restore a form of sovereignty to Iraq by June 30 and to nourish the creation of a democratic government, Cody said.
"The enemy has decided they want to attack and die, and that's what's happening to them: They attack and they die," he added.
Cody said the pace of Army operations around the world, including Iraq and Afghanistan as well as long-standing commitments in South Korea and elsewhere, is the fastest in his 32 years in the Army.
wiking
04-13-2004, 11:36 AM
But when are we going to hear casuality numbers on Iraqi's.
I'm interested to hear how many of the Iraqi's resistance and especially civilians who have been killed in Fallujah.
Gordon
04-13-2004, 12:25 PM
it's been on the news enougfh recently, turn CNN on sometime, they'll give you an update on US and Iraqi casualities, well insurgent casualties anyway, i haven't heard anything about civilian casualties.
edit here's a link from april 8th:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/08/iraq/main610812.shtml
On the news yesterday I heard figures of 600+ for the insurgents.
usa320
04-13-2004, 12:35 PM
Ive heard around 650 Insurgents killed, with nearly a thousand injured. Plus a handful of them detained in custody.
There doesnt appear to be significant civilian casualties...but its hard to judge because its hard to tell insurgents from civilians.
He219
04-13-2004, 12:36 PM
But when are we going to hear casuality numbers on Iraqi's.
I'm interested to hear how many of the Iraqi's resistance and especially civilians who have been killed in Fallujah.
Check this out:
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/2004413101730/$file/mosque1lr.jpghttp://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/2004413101923/$file/mosque2lr.jpg
An aerial photo taken shortly after Marines called in close-air support to breach a wall surrounding a mosque shows the accuracy of the laser-guided bomb. Marines were under attack from enemy forces using the protected site as a platform from which to fire on advancing Marines. Marines blasted the wall and killed attackers inside.
CAMP BLUE DIAMOND, Iraq(April 13, 2004) -- Marines from the 1st Marine Division held their positions in and around Fallujah as the Iraqi Governing Council worked to broker a bilateral cease-fire with leaders in the city.
Marines suspended offensive operations Friday after pushing forces into Fallujah to root out terrorists blamed for attacking Coalition Forces. The fighting began April 5 and by Tuesday, lulled. Few gunshots were heard throughout the city.
Marines and soldiers serving under 1st Marine Division suffered 39 killed in fighting across the Al Anbar province since April 5th. Estimates put the enemy dead at 600.
"What I think you will find is 95 percent of those were military age males that were killed in the fighting," said Lt. Col. Brennan Byrne, commanding officer for 1st Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment to reporters. "The Marines are trained to be precise in their firepower.... The fact that there are 600 goes back to the fact that the Marines are very good at what they do."
The fighting between Marines and enemy forces was fierce at times. Marines called in close-air support from Air Force AC-130 Spectre gunships and fighter aircraft. In one instance, Marines blasted a wall surrounding a mosque after enemy forces use the protected holy site to launch attacks.
"If they use the mosque as a military machine, then it's no longer a house of worship and we strike," Byrne explained.
Geneva convention laws list mosques as protected sites until they are used as platforms for enemy firing positions, at which point they may be considered a lawful military target. Schools and hospitals fall under the same protected status.
Marines fired Hellfire missiles from AH-1W Super Cobra helicopters and two 500-pound laser guided bombs to breach the wall. The surrounding wall was destroyed with minimal damage to the mosque itself. Marines killed the attackers inside.
"We believe we killed a bunch," Byrne added.
Marine called in more air strikes in several other instances, including a group of Marines who were attacked by four enemy fighters, who were quickly reinforced by another 12. Marines returned fire and the enemy fled into a nearby cave. AC-130 fire and more bomb strikes annihilated the cave where the fighters hid.
While thousands of Marines punched into Fallujah, Marines with 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, in coordination with soldiers from 1st Brigade Combat Team from Ft. Riley, Kansas, struck into the heart of Ar Ramadi to eliminate enemy resistance there.
In one strike, 40 enemy were killed and another 37 were taken prisoner.
By Monday, attacks against Marines holding defensive positions in Fallujah dwindled. Still, Marines held their positions, even as Iraqi leaders sought a peaceful resolution to hostilities.
"The prospect of some city father walking in and making 'Joe Jihadi' give himself up are pretty slim," Byrne said. "What is coming is the destruction of anti-coalition forces in Fallujah... they have two choices: Submit or die."
Even as Marines tightened their grip on Fallujah, humanitarian aid and medical supplies poured into the city. Women and children were allowed to leave the city, but men of military age were held back.
"We will always be humanitarian in our efforts," said Maj. Gen. James N. Mattis, commanding general of 1st Marine Division. "We will fight the enemy on our terms. May God help hem when we're done with them."
Marine efforts to send aid to citizens caught in the Fallujah cordon were hampered by terrorist attacks, though. Improvised explosive devices caused one convoy of food, water and blood supplies to be turned back. Another convoy from Jordan was blasted by IEDs in the western reaches of Al Anbar Province on its way to Fallujah.
Enemy tactics grew more desperate during the past week. Several reports surfaced of terrorists taking foreign nationals hostage, including Thomas Hamill, an American contractor.
Marines also discovered suicide belts among the enemy dead, laden with explosives and pieces of metal shrapnel.
There were also attempts to run weapons around Marine blockades.
Marines shot and killed two terrorists in Fallujah setting in a machine gun and witnessed an ambulance pull up with another enemy fighter trying to load up the weapon. Marines shot the third terrorist.
"We have to be careful because ambulances are being used for legitimate purposes, but we are also treating them with suspicion," Byrne said.
HELEX
04-13-2004, 12:36 PM
it's been on the news enougfh recently, turn CNN on sometime, they'll give you an update on US and Iraqi casualities, well insurgent casualties anyway, i haven't heard anything about civilian casualties.
edit here's a link from april 8th:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/08/iraq/main610812.shtml
On the news yesterday I heard figures of 600+ for the insurgents.
So whats the point? Every dead Iraqi just makes the rest more pissed at the occupation Troops. Losses are only relevant for the US public opinion.
Damian
04-13-2004, 12:49 PM
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So whats the point? Every dead Iraqi just makes the rest more pissed at the occupation Troops. .[/quote]Losses are only relevant for the US public opinion
good point
Vance
04-13-2004, 01:12 PM
it's been on the news enougfh recently, turn CNN on sometime, they'll give you an update on US and Iraqi casualities, well insurgent casualties anyway, i haven't heard anything about civilian casualties.
edit here's a link from april 8th:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/08/iraq/main610812.shtml
On the news yesterday I heard figures of 600+ for the insurgents.
So whats the point? Every dead Iraqi just makes the rest more pissed at the occupation Troops.
So I guess we should just sit there and get shot at. :roll:
Russian Texan
04-13-2004, 01:15 PM
Ive heard around 650 Insurgents killed, with nearly a thousand injured. Plus a handful of them detained in custody.
There doesnt appear to be significant civilian casualties...but its hard to judge because its hard to tell insurgents from civilians.
And what in your opinion would be "significant civilian casualties"?
So dead American private contractors who knew the risks and got paid quite well for what they did are significant, but the dead Iraqi children are not, did I get you right?
May I remind you - US is there to liberate them and take them to the better future.
All of your posts can be summed up as: "We are here to liberate you from an evil tyrant and give you the gift of democracy, you don't like it or don't wan't - we will f*** bomb you and our glorious SF will put a bullet into each of your backward muslim sculls..."
RIP to all those who died in this stupid and needless war for the sake of war....
Sergei
04-14-2004, 03:09 AM
Ive heard around 650 Insurgents killed, with nearly a thousand injured. Plus a handful of them detained in custody.
There doesnt appear to be significant civilian casualties...but its hard to judge because its hard to tell insurgents from civilians.
Are you some kind of CNN reporter guru who walks the streets of Falluja and knows how many civilians were killed? From what I see, there are dozens of women and children killed in Falluja only. I guess they didn't agree with all that crap about democracy, free society, the freedom to veiw ****ography and other bull****.
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