View Full Version : al-Zarkawi in Fallujah?
Soulhunter
04-13-2004, 01:07 PM
there are rumors that the US believes that al-Zarkawi's in Fallujah and that that's one of the reasons they're sieging the city
Obergefreiter
04-13-2004, 01:23 PM
Guess we will find out one way or another soon enough.
He219
04-13-2004, 01:55 PM
Abu Mussab al-Zarkawi (http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/ENT1319.htm)? I thought Iraq had nothing to do with the War on Terror ....
;)
Truthsayer
04-13-2004, 02:05 PM
For the philosocial question you posed(?) - since the coalition is in charge now, do they support terrorism and terrorists like him?
If not - why do they allow him to be in Iraq?
Take a minute and think about what it means before answering.
Soulhunter
04-13-2004, 05:05 PM
SINCE the US invasion Iraq of course has something to do with the war on terror. The US wanted it that way. To make it a battlefield where they can attract terrorists, kill them, and afterwards install a democracy ... the big question is if that'll work out ;)
StukaJr
04-13-2004, 05:14 PM
For the philosocial question you posed(?) - since the coalition is in charge now, do they support terrorism and terrorists like him?
Why won't you just quit while only half of the forum members think you are a mumbling idiot...
Coalition (US Marines) are sieging Fallujah - how can they be in control of the city that they are laying siege on? Fallujah was one of the cities that Coalition let the Iraqi clergy directly control and they turned it into a breeding ground for insurgents and left over Feyadeen.
US is going after Abu Mussab al-Zarkawi, whom is supposedely in the city - maybe he's been given the refuge by some kind Cleric all along. They are not allowing him to be in Iraq - having some scum slip across the border is not the same as offering one's refuge.
And it's true - there is now a big pocket of insurgents in the city, with nowhere to go... When the fighting stops - majority of those who'll escape into "civilian" population will be picked out and there will be a lot less insurgents to go around...
Truthsayer
04-13-2004, 08:53 PM
I think you missed the point of thinking before you post.
You can't blame the (former) seqular goverment of Iraq for an terrorist being there NOW. As little as you can blame the current goverment for him being there now.
This guy, IF HE IS THERE, is most likely drawn towards 'revolutions' like flies to sugar.
If you didn't get that part, then I'm sorry. For your countrymen.
StukaJr
04-13-2004, 09:42 PM
I think you missed the point of proof reading your posts to make sure they are clear and state an actual point.
Sure I can blame the old "seqular" government for the current "uprising" - as it was the old "seqular" government that trained secret police, feyadeen and other die-hard troops the current tactics that are being utilized. Clerics may have the control of the crowds, but it's the old training of the militia and original battle plan of the old that is making "insurgenets" a lot more formidable. Majority of these insurgents are perhaps feyadeen, the old guard etc - there were plenty of weapon caches left by the old government just for that reason.
The current Interim Constitution would make Iraq far more "seqular" - especially giving equal rights to women, perhaps the real reason for the uprising. However, it also removes Dictatorship - Saddam and his cabinet may have been "seqular" in the eyes of a sunni clergy, but they were still religious enough when it came to using it in their favor.
Truthsayer
04-13-2004, 09:46 PM
Read my post again. Then read your slandering - and notice how it fits on you.
You can't use this guy as an excuse to have invaded Iraq - like the humourus post by he219 indicated.
If you wanna start a flamewar over it, fine. It will only prove it's a sensitive area and that no-one is allowed to question any motives. Well, unless they are posted by the German, French, Russian or any other goverment...eh?
usa320
04-14-2004, 12:01 AM
You can't blame the (former) seqular goverment of Iraq for an terrorist being there NOW. As little as you can blame the current goverment for him being there now.
Only weere trying to kill him. The past government gave him a place, food and medical care.
I want this bastard dead especially.
Truthsayer
04-14-2004, 12:02 AM
If we KNOW that Saddam supported and protected him, then alright.
I just don't know that. Do you?
Any sources would be appruciated.
usa320
04-14-2004, 12:05 AM
he did...he was allowed to operate with impunity in a baghdad apartment since the late 90's.
StukaJr
04-14-2004, 12:18 AM
Truthsayer:
Abu Mussab al-Zarkawi is not the reason why Iraq was invaded, nor is he the reason for the seizure of Fullajah - however, he is belived to be in the city and if that proves to be true - soon, one more of the most wanted fugitives will be in Coalition Custody. He is like icing on the cake - stomping out the insurgents stronghold and coming across singular or multiple persons wanted for commiting and planning acts of terror...
Truthsayer
04-14-2004, 12:20 AM
Ofcourse capturing him would be a feather in the hat, no doubt.
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04-14-2004, 01:11 AM
If anything his prescence could be one of the reasons why these "insurgents" seem to want to stick it out. Unfortuneatly this whole cease fire seems to be coming to a boiling point were within the next couple of days all hell is going to break lose....
Soulhunter
04-14-2004, 04:01 AM
he did...he was allowed to operate with impunity in a baghdad apartment since the late 90's.
source?
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