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apm
11-17-2006, 02:38 PM
Moroccan convicted over 9/11 plot


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39941000/jpg/_39941212_1motassadek203cred.jpg Motassadek was previously cleared of knowing about the 9/11 plot

A German appeals court has found a Moroccan, Mounir al-Motassadek, guilty of being an accessory to murder in the 11 September 2001 attacks on the USA.
The Karlsruhe court sent the case back to a lower court for sentencing.
In August 2005, a Hamburg court jailed Motassadek for seven years, following a year-long retrial.
But the Karlsruhe judge on Thursday overturned the Hamburg court's decision to acquit Motassadek, 32, on thousands of counts of accessory to murder.
He now faces up to 15 years in jail.


Motassadek was originally jailed for 15 years in 2003, convicted of helping the 11 September plotters, who were based in Hamburg, with logistical support and other aid.
But that verdict was overturned by Germany's Supreme Court in 2004 and a retrial ordered.


The court ruled last August there was no proof that Motassadek knew about the 11 September plot and jailed him instead for membership of a terrorist organisation.

He again appealed.
Defence lawyers at the retrial criticised the lack of direct testimony from witnesses held by the US.


The Moroccan acknowledges he was close to the hijackers but has always insisted he knew nothing of their plans.
He has admitted attending an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan.


(update by apm)
Although the highest German court, the Bundesgerichtshof, has found him guilty, Motassadeq was allowed to remain free because of a decision of the higher regional court (Oberlandesgericht)of Hamburg which is responsible for the case, because the judges did not suppose any existing escape danger.. However - according to the latest news spreading all over the german media at the moment - at the request of the Federal Prosecutor this decision was taken back by the Bundesgerichtshof earlier this evening. Motassadeq was arrested at 7:30pm and taken in pretrial detention. Now he waits for his trial because of the 246-fold aid for murder (" in an especially heavy case ", according to actual German Law this could mean a harder sentence) and to the 1000-fold aid of murder.




//best news this day. i hated it to see how motassadeq and his lawyers played tricks and fooled the public.

Sir Zach of R.
11-17-2006, 07:37 PM
But the Karlsruhe judge on Thursday overturned the Hamburg court's decision to acquit Motassadek, 32, on thousands of counts of accessory to murder.
He now faces up to 15 years in jail

Ooh, 15 years in jail. The horror. :roll:

Breakfast in Vegas
11-17-2006, 07:39 PM
Ooh, 15 years in jail. The horror. :roll:

He'll get 10 be out in 3 and back on welfare.

Heinemann
11-17-2006, 08:10 PM
Dont worry if jails is anything like the show OZ then I'm sure he'll be in a wheel chair unable to walk straight by the time hes out.

LaoSexMachine
11-17-2006, 08:56 PM
Dont worry if jails is anything like the show OZ then I'm sure he'll be in a wheel chair unable to walk straight by the time hes out.


US jail or European jail?

BusterHyman
11-18-2006, 01:02 AM
US jail. European jail he will come out a saint.

apm
11-18-2006, 04:15 AM
you misunderstood this. a lifelong sentence according to german law means to be 15 years in jail and than to have the possibility to get out. if the court judges on "in an especially heavy case" which hopefully will be the case then he gets 25 years and then the possibility to become a free man.

dumb regulation, i know...a real lifelong sentence is rare judged in germany and i doubt a person who does aid-to-murder (sorry i dont know the exact english term) will get it (only murders, cruel rapists or kidnappers).

Pille1234
11-18-2006, 09:52 AM
you misunderstood this. a lifelong sentence according to german law means to be 15 years in jail and than to have the possibility to get out. if the court judges on "in an especially heavy case" which hopefully will be the case then he gets 25 years and then the possibility to become a free man.
I'm afraid you misunderstood this. We are talking about 15 years at best, not a lifelong sentence.

apm
11-18-2006, 12:09 PM
imho the bbc-journalist valued that completely right as he wrote up to 15 years in jail because lifelong sentence which motassadeq has to expect according to german media means only 15 years if the court doesnt judge on special reasons which would lead to a harder sentence.

AK74
11-18-2006, 12:32 PM
Ooh, 15 years in jail. The horror. :roll:

15 years or death , they can never pay for what they have done on 9/11

Fight terror with terror i say!

Pille1234
11-19-2006, 09:19 PM
imho the bbc-journalist valued that completely right as he wrote up to 15 years in jail because lifelong sentence which motassadeq has to expect according to german media means only 15 years if the court doesnt judge on special reasons which would lead to a harder sentence.
No no and no. There's a difference between a lifelong sentence and 15 years. In this case we are talking about a 15 years sentence at best and not a lifelong prison time (which *might* be 15 years as well) . And 15 years is not even certain yet, it is only the best/worst verdict.

ozumn
11-19-2006, 11:51 PM
15 years or death , they can never pay for what they have done on 9/11

Fight terror with terror i say!

You wanna hijack a plane and crash into a building?