Greeks riot to commemorate 1973 uprising

[Jobu]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/17/AR2006111700908.html

Watching it on satellite TV now, lots of tear gas, bottle throwing, fires set, etc.

:cantbeli:

[Nick_Karatzides]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/17/AR2006111700908.html


Watching it on satellite TV now, lots of tear gas, bottle throwing, fires set, etc.

:cantbeli:Damned anarchists mixed into (also covered by) communist protestors. They even had the nerve to burn the National Hellenic flag in front of TV cameras, without any shame. Well, I say hang them upside down, by their @@ (if they have any) to learn the true meaning of democratic protest & peaceful demonstration, instead of burning and damaging public property. Their official anachist & anti-authoritarian site presenting their "demands" can be found HERE (http://athens.indymedia.org/?lang=en).

Click HERE (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1944355&postcount=110) & HERE (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1948620&postcount=111) for some Hellenic Police riot control forces unit pictures, already published into MP.net.

[Litti]

Demonstration commemorating 1973 student uprising is brutally attacked by police


November 17th is commemorated annually as the day of the student uprising against Greece's military junta in 1973. In the weeks leading to this year's demonstrations mass media had been creating an atmosphere of fear, in a concious attempt to limit the public's participation to them. Contrary to their efforts and predictions, the demonstrations in Athens and Thessaloniki were amongst the largest of their kind in recent years.

In Athens, even before the demonstration had started, tens of people were detained (80-100 are reported) in a fine example of the police's "pre-emptive detentions" tactic. However, the people at the head of the demo refused to start marching unless all the detainees were freed. Eventually, at about 5pm, the demonstration kicked-off.

The government's repression units launched an unprovoked attack against the block of Athens' Anti-Authoritarian Movement. They surrounded both the anarchist and the Anti-authtoritarian Movement blocks and attacked viciously. It is speculated that 46 people were detained at that point. Two hours after the end of the demonstration uniformed and undercover cops are scattered around the Athens city centre; helicopters hover in the sky.

Three students are in the hospital, one of them having a fractured scull. More than 100 people have been detained, at least two of them are officially arrested.

In Thessaloniki, after the peaceful demonstration the students returned to the Engineering Faculty, where they held discussions and music events. Meanwhile, few people clashed with the police, provoked by a grouped of fascists. After the university authorities intervened, things got calm. Though, the police threw a lot of tear-gas which was spread all over the city centre, while undercover policemen were everywhere.

Photos from arrests in Athens | Photos of members of the PASOK party youth (PASOK is the ex-governmental party) attack other demo participants.

It is the police officers responsible for that who deserve a good kicking, not the demonstrators.

[Nick_Karatzides]

It is the police officers responsible for that who deserve a good kicking, not the demonstrators.Litti (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=25635), can you please explain to me, what EXACTLY do you mean? It's not clear to me and I might misunderstand.

[Litti]

edit : sorry for double post

[Litti]

According to the article police was responsible for a fractured skull and a couple of other hospital cases, unless I understood it incorrectly?

Your police has a bad habit of over reacting in these incidents. During summer there was a big demonstration in Athens with over 10,000 students. It was peaceful but tear gas was applied and people were beaten in the streets.

But it´s not like I, as a Finn, am in a position to pass judgment since we had a similar incident in Helsinki. The local police made TOTAL FOOLS out of themselves and arrested people who were just walking home.

[kosse]

I disagree about how the police acted in the Helsinki incident. Anarchists threatened with disorder and possible violence and police just acted accordingly. In addition, public was warned beforehand not to mix with the troublemakers.

[Litti]

Were you there? This was the MOTHER of all over reactions. They were arresting people who were walking in the streets with their groceries. There was absolutely nothing to indicate that any bigger disturbance would have occurred.

People were taking photos with their cameras, wondering why there was an army of police officers trying to surround them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL-t1m1-O-s

Not that Ive suffered from these over reactions except once. I was in Brussels (My high school times) and I was casually drinking beer with my mates in a roundabout. We saw this one guy with a scooter, the engine kept a really bad noice and it barely moved forward, and decided to clap and cheer him.

He went berserk and decided to call the cops??? I dont know what he told them in the phone but me and my three mates saw five, yes FIVE, police cars and over ten officers storming the roundabout. These days I cant do anything but laugh at the whole situation. :)

[Nick_Karatzides]

According to the article police was responsible for a fractured skull and a couple of other hospital cases, unless I understood it incorrectly.Well, I have to remind you that their idea is to spread ANACHY all over - after all they are anarchists, remember? Their official site is there to present their ideas as ideal and present the sunny daylight as night.

The three wounded "students" are aged from 29yo to 35yo - already arrested many times in the past for causing public damages, set fires into people's privatly owned cars (maybe my car, maybe your car or house) etc! Do they look like "students" to you? Sorry, not for me. For your information REAL students NEVER took part into their war - they actualy tried to prevent these anachist from damaging the univercity buildings. I mention their official anarchist party link trying to present their side too... but don't believe them - they are doing their "job" quite well!

Finaly, let's check the pictures they proudly present into their official anarchist site:
The following picture DOES NOT shows any peaceful & democratic protestors. The following picture DOES NOT shows Hellenic Police officers while duty too! The following picture DOES shows some anarchist "warriors" protesting their demands by burning, causing damages & establish terror to the public. What kind of "peaceful & democratic protestors" could they be while wearing motobike helmets (for protection) on heads, holding wooden or metal sticks as fighting weapons (against who?) in hands and posess bottle "molotov" bombs to threat the LE forces (or burn alive their "enemies")?
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5250/hgetimgora35csbp4jum0.jpg
(http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hgetimgora35csbp4jum0.jpg)

The following picture shows Hellenic Police officers ARRESTING one of these anarchists (should the police officers ask him gently to lay down and ask them to be excused? - you nauuuuuughty boy!), after he tried to burn Hellenic Police van automobile by throwing a bottle "molotov" bomb. Police officers lives set in great danger too!
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5671/hgetimgora2rkpttiu17frsqy9.jpg


Ohhhhhh.. yeah! What a "peaceful & democratic protestors" team these anarchist are! Last night, these damned anarchists threatened the public order and tried to disorder and exercise extreme violence. After that, the Hellenic Police forces, just acted accordingly, as the SHOULD do! Should they leave them to finish their work?

[Litti]

These pictures you have posted clearly represent a situation that warrants the use of force. They have weapons and helmets as protection, no indication of decent behaviour.

But there have been various incidents in the past when unarmed students have had to receive punishment without a good reason. Things usually turn ugly with tear gas when there´s no need for it.

I´ll try to make myself perfectly clear. I respect the work of police, it is not easy in these sort of situations. My own brother is a police for crying out loud so I should know. We´ve had many chats about his daily routines and he knows perfectly well with me that patience is very important - the key to everything. Sadly there are individuals who forget that, often among the demonstrators but from time to time the police is responsible as well.

[Nick_Karatzides]

The pictures you have showed clearly are from a situation that warrants the use of force. They have weapons and helmets as protection.Yes, they had self-made weapons (wondering why). A "peaceful & democratic protestor" does not join a protest and does not present his demands dressed like prepared for stone battle against the Police forces. Does he?




But there are incidents where unarmed students have had to receive punishment without a good reason. I respect the work of police, it is not easy when we talk about these incidents.As I told you into my previous post, the REAL students NEVER took part into their war - they actualy tried to prevent these anachist from damaging the univercity or other public buildings.

As I also mentioned, the arrested and wounded "students" were between 29yo to 35yo, which doesn't look like "univercity students" to me. Considering their age, their "have-been-arrested-many-times-before" profile and the fact that they were arrested while exercising terror & hooliganism, they look like "career hooligans" to me! Agree?

[Litti]

Agreed. p-)

[Nick_Karatzides]

Agreed. p-)Case closed. A final (older) picture, to remember "good old times" while fighting for "peace & democratic" anarchy.


http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/4319/hellenicpoliceriotunit05qy4.jpg

[Henry's Fork]

Damned anarchists mixed into (also covered by) communist protestors. .

All you had to say. They are a blight on any society.

Good to see the police are on top of things.