Al-Fuc*zeera will not air this...

[fdt]

Those mofos have announced that some kidnaping mofos have killed one Italian hostage. AJ claims to have the taped execution scene... but they won't air this...

This station is provoking such a murders taping sh*it with the simple fact of it's existence... The sick murderers of all region want their moment of fame... Arab "Big Brother"... Sick Reality TV... :-*$

MOAB

I got really fcuked up...

[Pille1234]

Those mofos have announced that some kidnaping mofos have killed one Italian hostage. AJ claims to have the taped execution scene... but they won't air this...

This station is provoking such a murders taping sh*it with the simple fact of it's existence... The sick murderers of all region want their moment of fame... Arab "Big Brother"... Sick Reality TV... :-*$

MOAB

I got really fcuked up...
You're blaming Al jazeera for the hostage takings? Come on, that's stupid. There'd be terrorists and murderers with or without Al Jazeera.

[American Patriot]

RIP

[fdt]

Those mofos have announced that some kidnaping mofos have killed one Italian hostage. AJ claims to have the taped execution scene... but they won't air this...

This station is provoking such a murders taping sh*it with the simple fact of it's existence... The sick murderers of all region want their moment of fame... Arab "Big Brother"... Sick Reality TV... :-*$

MOAB

I got really fcuked up...
You're blaming Al jazeera for the hostage takings? Come on, that's stupid. There'd be terrorists and murderers with or without Al Jazeera.He was killed just for the sake of taking this fcukin' footage... Some mofo wanted this to be aired... why did he send this tape to AJ? AJ is provoking such things to happen with a bare fact of it's existence and programme politics... They play innocent saying that they won't air this snuff, but in a week it will appear in net... Am I repeat this for the third time? Can't You f*ckn' read what's written?

[SeanAshi]

Boycott al-Jazeera.

[SeanAshi]

Boycott al-Jazeera.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/7ADCD736-4180-4DF3-9198-FE953342604A/34711/1F5CE8BDCF9449A8A80C84BDDF146B47.jpg

[chauncy republicans]

Boycott al-Jazeera.
Boycott Fox-News.

[fdt]

Boycott al-Jazeera.Agree. Boycott them... to the last... http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1750/boycott.jpg

[sinfonía de seis armas]

Boycott al-Jazeera.

Better that we put them out of business for collaborating with the terrorists.

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.

[fdt]

Boycott al-Jazeera.

Better that we put them out of business for collaborating with the terrorists.

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.sixgun pls don't support me

[sinfonía de seis armas]

I am not your friend, we just have a common enemy.

[Pooga]

Al-Jazeera. Wow. Why does anyone even care about them?

Chauncey: Boycott Fox because they show videos of executions? Don't be simple-minded, my little chum.

[Elmo]

It is a media war. The actual invasion phase was a circus with embedded reporters moving with the troops. Daily press briefing with footage of missiles hitting targets, watching live when the statue came down on paradise square, reporter asking a crouching soldier if he is scared...the reply being "er...sir, yes a bit...looking for snipers...(could you get the hell outta here?)..." Yes, a media war.

The insurgents don't have much and they desperately need attention. It is a war. It has two sides. Killing hostages is wrong for sure but they must think they need to shock us westeners in order to win. And they surely are shocking us.

Al Jazeera is not to blame here for particularly provoking anything. They just offer a channel for the other guys. Propaganda. Simple as that.

[fdt]

They just offer a channel for the other guys. Propaganda. Simple as that.Demand creates supply... Simple as that.

[sinfonía de seis armas]

Al Jazeera collaborates with the Islamic terrorists, therefore Al Jazeera is an enemy that must be destroyed.

There may be legal opportunities to do this. If not, then it will be up to the CIA, MI6, and the Mossad to use their dirty tricks in shutting them down.

[Romulus]

Hope the Italians retaliate with force.

[Elmo]

They just offer a channel for the other guys. Propaganda. Simple as that.Demand creates supply... Simple as that.

What are you saying? That Al Jazeera is to blame for...what exactly? Where do you draw the line?

It definately makes us westeners, who kill honourably, look superior to those arab lowlifes, doesn't it?

I wonder how much western media has netted to this day out of Iraq...

[fdt]

They just offer a channel for the other guys. Propaganda. Simple as that.Demand creates supply... Simple as that.

What are you saying? That Al Jazeera is to blame for...what exactly? Where do you draw the line?

It definately makes us westeners, who kill honourably, look superior to those arab lowlifes, doesn't it?

I wonder how much western media has netted to this day out of Iraq...Now You are trying to make impression that I said smth that I didn't... Read what's written. Don't put Your words in my mouth.

[Damian]

Bomb al-jazzara it's a fuc**d terrorist network!

I hope Italy strikes back!

[SeanAshi]

What are you saying? That Al Jazeera is to blame for...what exactly? Where do you draw the line?
Incitment

[sinfonía de seis armas]

Bomb al-jazzara it's a fuc**d terrorist network!

I hope Italy strikes back!

Bomb a studio and they will lease or build another. I would pursue legal opportunities first, and then use the CIA, MI6, and Mossad if that don't work.

[mustamato]

Bomb al-jazzara it's a fuc**d terrorist network!

I hope Italy strikes back!

Bomb a studio and they will lease or build another. I would pursue legal opportunities first, and then use the CIA, MI6, and Mossad if that don't work.

Use them against what? Al-Jazeera claims that the tape was given to them.
This that it was them taping the shiat is just bull****, or well, it´s called propaganda.

[ShadowNeo]

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.

You really are a whacko, I'm surprised you haven't been shot on sight yourself.

[sinfonía de seis armas]

Wuss

You don't have the courage to pull a trigger.

[ShadowNeo]

Wuss

You don't have the courage to pull a trigger.

Well, maybe if you walked into my sights eh? ;)

[fdt]

Wuss

You don't have the courage to pull a trigger.Every cowardly terrorist murderer has that much courage... to pull the trigger. It's easy... too easy.... and has nothing to do with courage.

[Pooga]

Going ahead with a dump that you know is too huge to be healthy, now that's courage!

[sinfonía de seis armas]

There are too many pacifists that won't let us destroy an enemy when that enemy is within our sights. Then that enemy comes back and hits us.

I am rather sick of it. The only good enemy is a dead one.

[Romulus]

Going ahead with a dump that you know is too huge to be healthy, now that's courage!

rofl

[fdt]

They just offer a channel for the other guys. Propaganda. Simple as that.Demand creates supply... Simple as that.

What are you saying? That Al Jazeera is to blame for...what exactly? Where do you draw the line?
[.........]
I wonder how much western media has netted to this day out of Iraq...Two in one... If You really can't see the line I will draw it exclusively for You. All, so called western news media show a shi*tload of horror, atrocities, crimes... they lie, say half truths, manipulate... but even the creepiest of them don't cross one line... They show things that happened, they show things that were. In this particular case things are different... the footage was made for one particular news channel... it was not filmed atrocity that happened... it was atrocity committed for the sake of news. This news was made, produced or whatever You will call it... and it was produced for the exclusive channel. It's the same difference like between filming a burning house set on fire by lightning and burning the house for the sake of filming the flames... Nobody says that AJ have directly ordered the killing, but it's programme policy has incited this... Before denying answer Yourself, why murderers sent them the tape... (not other news channel), why didn't they just sent the message with description of the burial place? Huh? They didn't do any of those because they were thinking that the tape will be aired... tell me what made them to think like that? There is a place where I draw the line.

[Garibaldi]

I wonder how much western media has netted to this day out of Iraq...Two in one... If You really can't see the line I will draw it exclusively for You. All, so called western news media show a shi*tload of horror, atrocities, crimes... they lie, say half truths, manipulate... but even the creepiest of them don't cross one line... They show things that happened, they show things that were. In this particular case things are different... the footage was made for one particular news channel... it was not filmed atrocity that happened... it was atrocity committed for the sake of news. This news was made, produced or whatever You will call it... and it was produced for the exclusive channel. It's the same difference like between filming a burning house set on fire by lightning and burning the house for the sake of filming the flames... Nobody says that AJ have directly ordered the killing, but it's programme policy has incited this... Before denying answer Yourself, why murderers sent them the tape... (not other news channel), why didn't they just sent the message with description of the burial place? Huh? They didn't do any of those because they were thinking that the tape will be aired... tell me what made them to think like that? There is a place where I draw the line.[/quote]

Why do you think Al-Jazeera exist? Because the arabs were sick and tired of the "edulcorated" news of western media like CNN. Al-Jazeera programs are not directed to a western audience. It´s made Arab style, and therefore, biased.
Your interpretation of the facts is very poor. How can you conclude that the murder of the italian contractor was made specifically to be aired on that TV channel? I must remember you that hostages were taken and executed by arabs TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON MEDIA long before Al-Jazeera existed (remember Belin ´68, Beirut in the ´80s, etc.) . So, it´s at least too simplistic to blame his programme policy fot that.
If you don´t like Al-Jazeera, I would recommend you to do what general Kimmith said to some journalist some days ago: "switch to another TV station".

[BlackRain]

I think that some members of Al ****a (intentional spelled wrong) are real live terrorists.

Much of their reporting is inaccurate, false, slanderous, misleading, outright lies, deceptive, manipulative, progaganda.

I think Al ****a serves as the media arm for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism and shut be disarticulated.


From page 13 of "The Al Qaeda Manual" - First Lesson - Missions Required of the Military Organization - 5. Spreading rumors and writting statements that instigate people against the enemy.

[mustamato]

Much of their reporting is inaccurate, false, slanderous, misleading, outright lies, deceptive, manipulative, progaganda

Care to give some example and back them up with links from http://english.aljazeera.net ?

[scm77]

CNN said that Al-Jazeera wouldn't even air the footage because it was too graphic.

I think the real reason was because they realized there was no way america was at fault for it.

[Elmo]

Two in one... If You really can't see the line I will draw it exclusively for You. All, so called western news media show a shi*tload of horror, atrocities, crimes... they lie, say half truths, manipulate... but even the creepiest of them don't cross one line... They show things that happened, they show things that were. In this particular case things are different... the footage was made for one particular news channel... it was not filmed atrocity that happened... it was atrocity committed for the sake of news. This news was made, produced or whatever You will call it... and it was produced for the exclusive channel. It's the same difference like between filming a burning house set on fire by lightning and burning the house for the sake of filming the flames... Nobody says that AJ have directly ordered the killing, but it's programme policy has incited this... Before denying answer Yourself, why murderers sent them the tape... (not other news channel), why didn't they just sent the message with description of the burial place? Huh? They didn't do any of those because they were thinking that the tape will be aired... tell me what made them to think like that? There is a place where I draw the line.

I see your line. Your argument is not too convincing, though. How do you know the news was initiated by Al Jazeera which you seem to imply and deny simultaneously and on the other hand claim it was produced for the sake of news...well that's obvious. I'm repeating myself but what do the insurgents have? Smallarms, RPG's, IED's. Not much. They are not winning. They can't boast with victories except for a couple of destroyed vehicles and a few (compared to Iraqi losses) dead American soldiers.

They want to shock. No other news agency would give their tape a possibility of it being aired. Sure Al Jazeera is biased. What is this argument about? It is propaganda. You have right to be emotional about it, murder is a murder, but why do you find it so spectacular when it's so obvious?

[Elmo]

.

Much of their reporting is inaccurate, false, slanderous, misleading, outright lies, deceptive, manipulative, progaganda.



Some goes with media in general, depends on who's side you are on. I hope you don't truly believe that there is an objective truth when it comes to war correspondence...

[Garibaldi]

I think that some members of Al ****a (intentional spelled wrong) are real live terrorists.

Much of their reporting is inaccurate, false, slanderous, misleading, outright lies, deceptive, manipulative, progaganda.

I think Al ****a serves as the media arm for Islamic fundamentalist terrorism and shut be disarticulated.


From page 13 of "The Al Qaeda Manual" - First Lesson - Missions Required of the Military Organization - 5. Spreading rumors and writting statements that instigate people against the enemy.

Sorry, but that´s not exclusive property of Al-Qaeda. Remember the 1991 testimony in congress of the kuwaity "nurse" that witnessed how babies were left on the cold floor to die? Well that "nurse" turned up to be a relative of the Kuwait ambassador in the U.S., her testimony proved (later) to be forged, and the whole thing was orchestrated by the U.S. governement to gain support of the public opinion. Manipulation of information has been done by all governments, militias or groups through history.
By the way, desarticulating a TV station is a great way of teaching freedom of speech to the arab world.

[BlackRain]

Wow. I am suprised at the loyal following Al ****a has among member of this forum. Do you folks contribute to Islamic Fundamentalists charities as well?

If you believe their gullible enough to believe their reports perhaps I could interest you in purchasing a bridge I own in Brooklyn.

As far as sample of false reports made by Al ****a, these links are provided for your approval.

Muslim countries even complain that their reporting is not objective or accurate!


1) Sudanese security forces have released Aljazeera's correspondent Islam Saleh from detention in Sudan. The reporter was arrested last Thursday after being accused of abusing the Sudanese government in his broadcasts and producing "false stories".
http://www.apfw.org/indexenglish.asp?fname=news%5Cenglish%5C12217.htm


2) Its reporters have at times been banned by Kuwait, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority. It has been criticised by Saudi Arabia and was reportedly described by Bahrain as being pro-Zionist. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2460705.stm


3) U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz ... accused Arabic-language news reports about Iraq of inciting violence against U.S. troops, pointing a finger in particular at the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera and Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television networks. Wolfowitz, a pro-war hawk, cited what he insisted was a "false report" by Al-Jazeera that U.S. forces arrested an imam in Iraq, when in fact, according to Wolfowitz, no such arrest had occurred. "We're talking to the owners of these stations and asking for some balance," Wolfowitz said. "So far, I think the answer we're getting is that those broadcasts are continuing and that's not satisfactory." "What I'm complaining of are false reporting and very biased reporting that has the effect of inciting violence against our troops, and these governments should stop and realize that this is not a game, that they are endangering the lives of American troops," he said. http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-07/28/article07.shtml

Freedom of speech does not cover terrorism my friend. It is my opinion that Al ****a provides aid and comfort to terrorists.

[Pille1234]

1) Sudanese security forces have released Aljazeera's correspondent Islam Saleh from detention in Sudan. The reporter was arrested last Thursday after being accused of abusing the Sudanese government in his broadcasts and producing "false stories".
http://www.apfw.org/indexenglish.asp?fname=news%5Cenglish%5C12217.htm

There was just recently a story about an American journalist faking interviews and stories. Wasn't it the NY Times?


2) Its reporters have at times been banned by Kuwait, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority. It has been criticised by Saudi Arabia and was reportedly described by Bahrain as being pro-Zionist. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2460705.stm

Criticized by fu<ked up Saudi Arabia and called pro-zionist is a kind of knightly accolade for an arab news network, don't you think so?


3) U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz ... accused Arabic-language news reports about Iraq of inciting violence against U.S. troops, pointing a finger in particular at the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera and Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television networks. Wolfowitz, a pro-war hawk, cited what he insisted was a "false report" by Al-Jazeera that U.S. forces arrested an imam in Iraq, when in fact, according to Wolfowitz, no such arrest had occurred. "We're talking to the owners of these stations and asking for some balance," Wolfowitz said. "So far, I think the answer we're getting is that those broadcasts are continuing and that's not satisfactory." "What I'm complaining of are false reporting and very biased reporting that has the effect of inciting violence against our troops, and these governments should stop and realize that this is not a game, that they are endangering the lives of American troops," he said. http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-07/28/article07.shtml
Well, the great Wolfowitz, neutral observer, free of own interests judges Al Jazeera. Now I'm firmly convinced you're right!

[BlackRain]

Now I'm firmly convinced you're right!

Hey, he asked for examples of Al ****a's false reporting, and I provided multiple instances. Muslim countries have problems with their reporting in addition to the USA.

I don't really care if you are convinced. That is your affair to live in a dream world.


Al-Jazeera star accused of terrorist links
Al-Jazeera, the Arabic satellite broadcaster, finds itself in conflict with a headline-making Spanish judge who has prosecuted terrorists, South American dictators and corrupt politicians, and has spoken out against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The investigative magistrate Baltasar Garzon has formally accused an Al-Jazeera war correspondent, Taysir Alouni, a Syrian-born Spaniard, of terrorist activity, and ordered him held without bail on charges of financing, logistical support and recruitment for the al-Qaeda network.

[chauncy republicans]

Chauncey: Boycott Fox because they show videos of executions? Don't be simple-minded, my little chum.
No, for incitment... Al-jazeera is the equivelant of Fox news, they both are biased and both spread propaganda. They are both more suited for the entertainment buisness after all, thats what it is. Al-Jazeera plays on Arab nationalism, Fox news plays on American Patriotism. Al-Jazeera is accused of being anti-American, Fox news has many times been accused of being anti-Islamic. They both have a product to solicite to their consumers, you cant sell "American patriotism" to the Arab street, and as we see here you cant sell "Arab Nationalism" to American so-called Patriots. I dont know why anyone would expect it to be any different.
Come on Pooga...take of those "black and white" goggles just once...

[BlackRain]

"Fox news has many times been accused of being anti-Islamic"

This is done by Islamic fundamentalists terrorist and their supporters who don't like to have their crimes reported.

It is a bunch of nonsense. If Buddhist's were crashing planes into buildings and engaging in terrorism, FOX News would be blamed for being "anti-Buddhist" for reporting it.

[Kilgor]

[quote=Pooga]Chauncey: Boycott Fox because they show videos of executions? Don't be simple-minded, my little chum.
No, for incitment... Al-jazeera is the equivelant of Fox news, quote]

You probably dont watch much fox news do you ?

Al****era being the equal to fox is so laughable

[chauncy republicans]

"Fox news has many times been accused of being anti-Islamic"

This is done by Islamic fundamentalists terrorist and their supporters who don't like to have their crimes reported.

It is a bunch of nonsense. If Buddhist's were crashing planes into buildings and engaging in terrorism, FOX News would be blamed for being "anti-Buddhist" for reporting it.
So...LMAO...I see it's different when Americans cry about Al-Jazeera being anti-American when they report on an execution or a civilian casualty. Please explain.

[usa320]

Guys i always have been a supporter of unbiased and free press, but Al Jazeera IMHO should be taken off the air.

They just always seem to be there when the terrorists kill someone. Not to mention them airing this **** brings attention to al-qaeda's cause. They are definately not only supporting the terrorists by airing propaganda for them, but im more than certain they are supporting them financially as well in many cases.

To put Al Jazeera off the air would mean Bin Laden and the Iraqi milita's would no longer be able to recruit with propaganda and would no longer be able to send tapes or videos to the west.

It would really be a significant blow. I think it really needs to be done.

I think an E-bomb would work well, or somehow jam the signals in and out of their headquarters.

[Trigger]

chumpchange wrote:

They both have a product to solicite to their consumers, you cant sell "American patriotism" to the Arab street, and as we see here you cant sell "Arab Nationalism" to American so-called Patriots. I dont know why anyone would expect it to be any different.
Since you are too fvcking stupid to know the difference, I'll make it simple:
American media broadcasts 'American patriotism' in the form of people waving flags and scenes of our troops dealing with difficult situations.

Al-Jackhole broadcasts 'Arab nationalism' *LMMFAO!* in the form of snuff films of unarmed, helpless prisoners and innocent civilians.

When Fox News or any other western media outlet starts airing video of our guys cutting the throats or dragging the lifeless corpses of Arab men women and children, then they will be the same as Al-Jism.

Until that happens, you will always be full of ****.

[cut]

I think Al Jazeera is great, gives an insight into what the arab world is thinking.

[SeanAshi]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/1043131539407db4a0e4eb5.jpgCurious..mustamato who is that photo of? Looks like my grandfather.

[Kilgor]

chumpchange wrote:
[quote]

When Fox News or any other western media outlet starts airing video of our guys cutting the throats or dragging the lifeless corpses of Arab men women and children, then they will be the same as Al-Jism.

Until that happens, you will always be full of ****.

Thats it mate.

there is no comparision.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Boycott al-Jazeera.

Better that we put them out of business for collaborating with the terrorists.

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.

Yes lets all sit on a forum and sprout nonsense about killing everyone we don’t like. At the end of the day you are a text bitch that doesn’t have the bottle to go overseas and “kill and bomb reporters”. Even if for one second I believed people here had the gumption to conduct such lovely activities how the hell can you then claim your precious moral high ground.

You are burdened with an intellect of a flea, it must be ever so frustrating to know that your bile can only be made public on a forum.

Amen.

[cut]

When Fox News or any other western media outlet starts airing video of our guys cutting the throats or dragging the lifeless corpses of Arab men women and children, then they will be the same as Al-Jism.

Until that happens, you will always be full of ****.

That depens of the culture you live in, in the west *** is everywhere, they show *** on TV etc.. and death is taboo, in many other places death is shown on tv and *** is taboo. In India 100 people killed in a train crash is almost a weekly occurence, life is cheap. The way americans feel about seeing death on tv evokes the same feeling as an arab seeing *** on tv.

it's not a test of civilisation or freedom or whatever the buzz word is now. Victorian Britain was perfectly civilised and they talked about death freely and talking about *** was taboo.

[cut]

Boycott al-Jazeera.

Better that we put them out of business for collaborating with the terrorists.

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.

Yes lets all sit on a forum and sprout nonsense about killing everyone we don’t like. At the end of the day you are a text bitch that doesn’t have the bottle to go overseas and “kill and bomb reporters”. Even if for one second I believed people here had the gumption to conduct such lovely activities how the hell can you then claim your precious moral high ground.

You are burdened with an intellect of a flea, it must be ever so frustrating to know that your bile can only be made public on a forum.

Amen.

oooh watch out they're going to suggest nuking OZ now.

[Argyll]

There are no squeeky clean media outlets here in Iraq...........they are ALL after that "exclusive story"...........and they'll pay handsomely for it,and that includes set ups/attacks on the CF just for a story......trust me.
When you see a news team on an overhead ..........it's bad news for some poor fok!

[mocking_loudly_died]

oooh watch out they're going to suggest nuking OZ now.

That's fine with me, I want to live in a post apocalyptic world featuring mutants and quests for precious oil.

[Trigger]

Cut wrote:

That depens of the culture you live in, in the west *** is everywhere, they show *** on TV etc..
Yes, and in the west there is usually a loud outcry against the increasing volume of *** on TV. Just look at the Janet Jackson flap (pun intended).
The aftermath in western media was for the FCC to clamp down on obscenity in the media.

The aftermath of Al-Jackoff airing atrocities is...a rush by the terrorists to commit and film an even bigger atrocity...in the Arab world.

Again, no comparison.

[cut]

There are no squeeky clean media outlets here in Iraq...........they are ALL after that "exclusive story"...........and they'll pay handsomely for it,and that includes set ups/attacks on the CF just for a story......trust me.
When you see a news team on an overhead ..........it's bad news for some poor fok!

morning argyll

how are tricks?

[Trigger]

oooh watch out they're going to suggest nuking OZ now.

That's fine with me, I want to live in a post apocalyptic world featuring mutants and quests for precious oil.

I'm driving! :D

[cut]

Cut wrote:

That depens of the culture you live in, in the west *** is everywhere, they show *** on TV etc..
Yes, and in the west there is usually a loud outcry against the increasing volume of *** on TV. Just look at the Janet Jackson flap (pun intended).
The aftermath in western media was for the FCC to clamp down on obscenity in the media.

The aftermath of Al-Jackoff airing atrocities is...a rush by the terrorists to commit and film an even bigger atrocity...in the Arab world.

Again, no comparison.

If you think there is no comparison then you are being narrow-minded. I know this from living in a place like that. Al-jazeera did not show the video of the Italian being murdered so they too have standards.

[Trigger]

Maybe they got a little 'PM' from some Italians....and no, I'm not being narrow minded. I can simply tell right from wrong and I'm not PC enough to keep it to myself. :D

[cut]

Maybe they got a little 'PM' from some Italians....

doubt it why would they bother, listening to the italians when they don't flinch when the US tries to intimidate them during the war.

[BlackRain]

Ever wonder who exactly owns Al ****a and controls its operations?

Al-Jazeera Satellite Channel is broadcast from Qatar. It is owned by the Emir of Qatar. Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabr Al Thani owns 35 percent of the channel and is a cousin of the Qatari emir.

Al ****a is sustained by a 137 million U.S. dollar grant from the Qatari emir, the satellite television channel was charging up to 20,000 dollars per minute of footage of bin Laden-related tapes.

Qatar's emir, Sheik Hamad ibn Khalifa al Thani, founded the station in 1996 with a five-year deadline to support itself. (The station broke even -- barely -- in 2001.)

[cut]

Ever wonder who exactly owns Al ****a and controls its operations?

Al-Jazeera Satellite Channel is broadcast from Qatar. It is owned by the Emir of Qatar. Qatari Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabr Al Thani owns 35 percent of the channel and is a cousin of the Qatari emir.

Al ****a is sustained by a 137 million U.S. dollar grant from the Qatari emir, the satellite television channel was charging up to 20,000 dollars per minute of footage of bin Laden-related tapes.

Qatar's emir, Sheik Hamad ibn Khalifa al Thani, founded the station in 1996 with a five-year deadline to support itself. (The station broke even -- barely -- in 2001.)

It's only become well known since 2001 I bet it has been raking it in.

[Kilgor]

Until that happens, you will always be full of ****.

That depens of the culture you live in, in the west *** is everywhere, they show *** on TV etc.. and death is taboo, in many other places death is shown on tv and *** is taboo. In India 100 people killed in a train crash is almost a weekly occurence, life is cheap. The way americans feel about seeing death on tv evokes the same feeling as an arab seeing *** on tv.

.

It was well quoted.. after saddam fell, pirated ****o cds were quickly available from many street vendors.

[Yard Ape]

You're blaming Al jazeera for the hostage takings? Come on, that's stupid. There'd be terrorists and murderers with or without Al Jazeera.He was killed just for the sake of taking this fcukin' footage... Some mofo wanted this to be aired... why did he send this tape to AJ? AJ is provoking such things to happen with a bare fact of it's existence and programme politics... Do you not think that AJ is actually discouraging these acts by not airing the tape? If terrorists know they cannot send thier murder videos in for air time, they loose the incentive to make such videos.

We should hold judgment until we can determine if this is a one time incident or precident setting.

[Yard Ape]

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.Yes. Them and the French news media. :cantbeli:

[cut]

Until that happens, I will always be full of ****.

That depens of the culture you live in, in the west *** is everywhere, they show *** on TV etc.. and death is taboo, in many other places death is shown on tv and *** is taboo. In India 100 people killed in a train crash is almost a weekly occurence, life is cheap. The way americans feel about seeing death on tv evokes the same feeling as an arab seeing *** on tv.

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It was well quoted.. after saddam fell, pirated ****o cds were quickly available from many street vendors.

I missed that second part of the quote, nevermind.

As for ****o in Iraq, lawlessness always has that effect, look at the internet, ******.com etc..

[Kilgor]

****o was strictly banned under saddam. I was just making the point that there are probably many arabs like westerns that like watching it. They arent as disgusted by it as you think.

Religion has always been very hypocritical, no matter the faith.

[shorty]

Don't you find it very ironic that **** was outlawed by Saddam?? He himself has a picture of him depicting him as a "playboy". And his sons.....Gimme a freaking break here......They were (hehehe) quite arguably the most whoring around gentlemen in Iraq. If a women would not have *** with them than they would order that woman and most of her family to die. Many times they would carry around women's clothing in suitcases. Didn't believe in ****.....quite the contradiction on his and his son's part! :bash:

[Korth]

Don't you find it very ironic that **** was outlawed by Saddam?? He himself has a picture of him depicting him as a "playboy". And his sons.....Gimme a freaking break here......They were (hehehe) quite arguably the most whoring around gentlemen in Iraq. If a women would not have *** with them than they would order that woman and most of her family to die. Many times they would carry around women's clothing in suitcases. Didn't believe in ****.....quite the contradiction on his and his son's part! :bash:


I remember seeing pictures of Saddam pretending to be a pious pilgrim at Mecca. It was all a show for the Islamic masses, they kept their private life private.

[Soulhunter]

to the original posting: so you want that execution to be aired, or what??

It's good that they are NOT airing it. It shows at least SOME decency from their side, for once ...

[fdt]

AJ is an Arab news station. It is supposed to finance itself so it must show what the target audience wants to see. It does it. What do we get then.

1. Pictures of massacred children and women who died of US bombs and military operations. No circumstances of the events. No explanation on how this and that occurrence happened (if it was collateral or someone was hiding behind the children human shield or if it was a war crime). No reflection... it's all in one basket "Yanks indiscriminately kill innocent Arabs".

2. No pictures of "armed civilians" or terrorists who were killed during a fight. No footage of Arabs killed in combat with arms in their hands. No pictures so no problem, conclusion is simple Yanks indiscriminately kill innocent Arabs.

3. All available pictures of dead Americans (and now all whites) who were killed by "freedom fighters".... with all details. More graphic is better. Message is clear: don't feel safe we (Arabs) can kill You and we will be doing it all the ways possible.

These are 3 main (according to my perception) guidelines for the AJ airing policy. Guidelines that come from the assumption made by the founders and management of AJ that it is supposed to be an arab station, who is to show Arab view and world perception for Arabs. They don't pretend to be an objective news and opinion source. They represent a sick concept of deliberated partial truth advocacy (western media mostly try to pretend or even try to be sighted as objective - what means to present both parts of the events). Why show and tell the whole truth? Why present to Arabs the other side's point? Let the other media do it, let westerners show their audiences their point of view, we will show our audiences our part of truth. I don't know as people call it in Your countries, but I see it as a assumed propaganda attitude.

When You watch the broadcasts showing the reality sketched according to the 3 above principles, how does the world look like? It looks like this: Yank kill Arabs, so Arabs have every right to kill back in self defence. When the Yanks kill it always is a crime, so we are entitled to crime-kill them. It's our right to defend ourselves. No killing of white guy is a crime, it's a justified fight. AJ doesn't deliberate if this or that particular event of white guy killing is justified or criminal, they leave this to westerners with an assumption that all such killings are justified and right unless someone proves opposite .... using the western standards (evidences, witnesses, formal judiciary procedure etc.).

What all of the above has to do with the Italian murder? It has. The footage of killing, bare fact of killing fits like glove to the AJ airing guidelines as the audience understands it (and the AJ staff wanted them to understand) with one exception... bandits didn't understand that this deliberate cold blooded brutal and graphic murder cannot be shown because it can't be hidden anyway as a justified act of self defence... AJ decided not to show it not because it was graphic, brutal or smth - they decided not to air it because this criminal act can not be presented as hard but justified act of resistance... what collides with the guidelines and assumed view of world where Arabs are oppressed (always unjust) and all the violence they commit is just a blowback of western oppression.

And that's why AJ decided not to air this....

[TALOS]

Until that happens, I will always be full of ****.

That depens of the culture you live in, in the west *** is everywhere, they show *** on TV etc.. and death is taboo, in many other places death is shown on tv and *** is taboo. In India 100 people killed in a train crash is almost a weekly occurence, life is cheap. The way americans feel about seeing death on tv evokes the same feeling as an arab seeing *** on tv.

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It was well quoted.. after saddam fell, pirated ****o cds were quickly available from many street vendors.

I missed that second part of the quote, nevermind.

As for ****o in Iraq, lawlessness always has that effect, look at the internet, ******.com etc..

Cut, you editing other peoples posts now? He said "you will always be full of ****"
scraping the bottom now are we? :cantbeli:

[cold0]

Hope the Italians retaliate with force.

Don't worry, we don't quit! Someone in Europe can stay at home and just blame the others for what happen in Iraqi, but we are in Iraqi to made our job and we have no fear of these assassins!!!

We have lost 19 Carabinieri and soldiers in Nassirya and we have fougth and won the local Sadr militia last week.

We are at war and we are suffering losses; it's tragic, but this is a war.

[fdt]

The AJ bastards couldn't stop themselves from showing at least the dead corps of the Italian... they didn't show the execution... oh no (this could leave spectators with "wrong" impression that someoine is committing a crime against the unarmed civilian) they showed the "only" aftermath (smth like oh look dead body, let's film it)... Really, all western TVs should learn this charming modus operandi.

[Soulhunter]

The italian government wanted to follow Bush's war against Saddam. Should they now deal with the after-effects of it.

[fdt]

The italian government wanted to follow Bush's war against Saddam. Should they now deal with the after-effects of it.I think that You can't blame Berlusconi for all what happened. If the mother of the guy wouldn't deliver him to this world the tragedy might not occurr at all... :cantbeli:

[Soulhunter]

fdt: now, that's what I call logic .... are all your arguments as water-proof as that one?? :cantbeli:

[fdt]

fdt: now, that's what I call logic .... are all your arguments as water-proof as that one?? :cantbeli:Definitely, You have just become a self proclaimed defender of the noble art of sofisticated dispute... First You use an empty slogan and then the argumentum ad personam... is that all? Pls read whole "Eristics" (it's not a big volume) so You may find there some more subtle ways of pushing the biased propaganda to the people. Make better effort... not all simple way are the best in dispute... As it comes to my arguments I must say i thought that it was good ol' reductio ad absurdum not the "water proof argument" (whatever that means). Think of changing the avatar, the present one seems to negative influence your eloquence.

BTW, despite few people askin', You didn't bother telling us where are You from... it's rude.

[G1]

Boycott al-Jazeera.

Better that we put them out of business for collaborating with the terrorists.

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.

Yes lets all sit on a forum and sprout nonsense about killing everyone we don’t like. At the end of the day you are a text bitch that doesn’t have the bottle to go overseas and “kill and bomb reporters”. Even if for one second I believed people here had the gumption to conduct such lovely activities how the hell can you then claim your precious moral high ground.

You are burdened with an intellect of a flea, it must be ever so frustrating to know that your bile can only be made public on a forum.

Amen.

Great post.

[Haiw]

Wrabble wrabble wrabble!!!



That made about as much sense as the previous 5 pages combined. :roll:

[fdt]

Wrabble wrabble wrabble!!!



That made about as much sense as the previous 5 pages combined. :roll:John De Mol burden?

[Haiw]

Eh?

[Adri]

hø?

[Trigger]

Until that happens, I will always be full of ****.



It was well quoted.. after saddam fell, pirated ****o cds were quickly available from many street vendors.

I missed that second part of the quote, nevermind.

As for ****o in Iraq, lawlessness always has that effect, look at the internet, ******.com etc..

Cut, you editing other peoples posts now? He said "you will always be full of ****"
scraping the bottom now are we? :cantbeli:
Thanks TALOS.
Cheap shot, intentional mis-quotes do take away any credibility he might have had.
Oh well, if you can't win...just make **** up.

[Korth]

Boycott al-Jazeera.

Better that we put them out of business for collaborating with the terrorists.

I would also give orders to the troops that they are too shoot any Al Jazeera journalists on sight.

Yes lets all sit on a forum and sprout nonsense about killing everyone we don’t like. At the end of the day you are a text bitch that doesn’t have the bottle to go overseas and “kill and bomb reporters”. Even if for one second I believed people here had the gumption to conduct such lovely activities how the hell can you then claim your precious moral high ground.

You are burdened with an intellect of a flea, it must be ever so frustrating to know that your bile can only be made public on a forum.

Amen.


What you don't comprehend is that people who collaborate with terrorists are terrorists.

Also, you assume much about a person you never met.