Argentina military pictures

[alemarc72]

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[Ghelp]

I barely see that many photos of the proud Argentine military.Thank you for posting these.Nice Steyr Aug's.

[S.H.P.D]

Very nice pix!!!!

[alfigel]

Nice Steyr Aug's.

That's what I thought, too. I didn't know Argentina had the Steyr AUG.

[Oldfox]

How can a country that had a complete social and financial meltdown a few years ago afford to send out soldiers for UN peace keeping missions? Do other member states donate equipment and/or funds?

[Charly84]

How can a country that had a complete social and financial meltdown a few years ago afford to send out soldiers for UN peace keeping missions? Do other member states donate equipment and/or funds?

That was 5 years ago...the worst part of the crisis passed, now our economy is growing 8-9% anually (from 2003) but still there are a lot of things to solve in the social and financial aspect.

The units deployed to support MINUSTAH in Haiti belonged to the Army and Marines and all the equipment and logistic support are from them, none of the materials you saw were donated.

By the way, great pics!!

[vajt]

Alemarc, good pictures, you must have some good connections p-) .

As far as I'm aware, all countries that send support for a UN mission provide their own equipment, supplies, arms...etc.

-----JT-----

[Citer]

important to say is that members of the 601 air sassault regiment (regimiento de asalto aéreo 601) from the army (currently deployed in Haiti) had to buy their "equipment jacket" (don´t know how to say it in english, chaleco portaequipos) with their own money, to a private company.

Here is the one they chose:

[JVeld]

Great pics....thanks for posting....very rarely do we get to see Argentina's Military !

[Hutz]

Seeing as there's a few different rifles in these pics, can anyone tell me what the standard service rifle of Argentina is?

[Citer]

standard of the army, FAL
standard of the marines, M16A2

Air force uses a variety

[annihilation]

That was 5 years ago...the worst part of the crisis passed, now our economy is growing 8-9% anually (from 2003) but still there are a lot of things to solve in the social and financial aspect.

The units deployed to support MINUSTAH in Haiti belonged to the Army and Marines and all the equipment and logistic support are from them, none of the materials you saw were donated.

By the way, great pics!!


They still have a long way to go from what my grand mother tells me. I hope one day to return to visit. I did enjoy my times in the captial visiting my family.

[Ghelp]

In the beginning of the 20th century Argentina had one of the best GDP's in the world.Im sure Argentina will bounce back as they have done so before.

Good luck from Colombia...

[alfigel]

standard of the army, FAL
standard of the marines, M16A2

Air force uses a variety

And who is using the Steyr AUG then? As it shows up on several of the pictures.

[Charly84]

And who is using the Steyr AUG then? As it shows up on several of the pictures.

The Steyr AUG is used by Cazadores Companies (jungle and mountain) and Commando Co. 602.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/rhcp04/solds-5.jpg


Jungle Cazadores - Compañia Cazadores de Monte


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Mountain Cazador - Compañia Cazadores de Montaña

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High Mountain Cazador - Compañia Cazadores Alta Montaña

[alemarc72]

And it is used for the tripulations of the SK 105mm (tank destroyer)

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[alfigel]

Thanks a lot for these really nice pictures of the Steyr AUG in Argentina. It find it really great that this really fine assault rifle, which was designed, constructed and produced in a city not too far from my home, gets adopted by more and more armies around the world. And that's what it really deserves.

BTW: the English word for "tripulación" is "crew". ;-) (no hablo Español, I looked it up in a dictionary because I couldn't find it in my English dictionary)

[Ghelp]

Keep it up man.

[ren0312]

That was 5 years ago...the worst part of the crisis passed, now our economy is growing 8-9% anually (from 2003) but still there are a lot of things to solve in the social and financial aspect.

The units deployed to support MINUSTAH in Haiti belonged to the Army and Marines and all the equipment and logistic support are from them, none of the materials you saw were donated.

By the way, great pics!!

Hi, when are you planning to replace your Mirages and Skyhawks? Or is your government planning to fly them until they fall out of the sky?

[Charly84]

Hi, when are you planning to replace your Mirages and Skyhawks? Or is your government planning to fly them until they fall out of the sky?

The A-4AR Skyhawks (A-4Ms updated) were recived in the '90 so they probably will serve for 20 years more. This model has recived important electronic modernization ( APG-66 radar, EW, ECM, RWR, etc) but the main restriction is their armament: Only AIM-9L/Ms and dumb bombs.

The Mirage family possibly it will be replaced after 2010...but with this government, who knows...the idea was to replace them with F-16s or Mirage 2000.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f34/rhcp04/A-4ARFAA.jpg

A-4AR 5ta.Brigada Aérea

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Mirages IIIs and Finger 6ta.Brigada Aérea

[JasoninPrescott]

standard of the army, FAL
standard of the marines, M16A2

Air force uses a variety

What do they use as a sidearm? Ballester-Molina or Hi-Power copies?

Thanks,

Jason

[alemarc72]

Argentina Parachute Brigade - created in 1942

The Argentine Army was the first one in Latin America and the fifth one in the world order in possessing Troops Parachutists organically constituted, before URSS, Germany, United Kingdom and EEUU.

Currently is part of the FOE (Fuerzas de Operaciones Especiales) Special Operations Force.

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[Pirulo2003]

What do they use as a sidearm? Ballester-Molina or Hi-Power copies?

Thanks,

Jason

The official sidearm is the FM Hi-Power Modelo M-95 Classic (FM - Fabricaciones Militares).
Its a copy under license of the Browning with some improvments.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5001/m95tc0.jpg

But now it is replaced with the FM Hi-Power Modelo M02 A.R., the same pistol with a double action system.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6018/m02arco8.jpg


But some units, like the Coast Guard, uses a combination of Glocks and FM.

[Pirulo2003]

Super Etendard pics from Armada Argentina (Argentine Navy):

http://www.ara.mil.ar/poder_naval/aviacion_naval/avion_ataque/foto_01.jpg
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[ElHombre]

What do they use as a sidearm? Ballester-Molina or Hi-Power copies?

Little known fact, Argentina was one of the handful of countries to adopt the 45ACP M1911 as their standard pistol.

Great pics!

[Pirulo2003]

This is the Hercules, a Type 42 destroyer and now, after some reforms, categorized as a "multipurpose fast transport":

http://www.ara.mil.ar/poder_naval/buques_superficie/transp_multiproposito/foto_01.jpg
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[Ghelp]

Thanks alot.

[alemarc72]

Excellente photos!! Thanks

[exarmyguard]

Questions about your military.
Will the air force retire their Mirage jets soon?
THe FN FAL, is it to be retired or upgraded?
The uniform, the BDU like the USA, is their talk of a new uniform?
Why was the SK105, now to be built in Argentina, chosen over the TAM for the new purchase of tanks this past summer?
Is there cooperation with Venezuela and its military?

[Charly84]

Questions about your military.
Will the air force retire their Mirage jets soon?
THe FN FAL, is it to be retired or upgraded?
The uniform, the BDU like the USA, is their talk of a new uniform?
Why was the SK105, now to be built in Argentina, chosen over the TAM for the new purchase of tanks this past summer?
Is there cooperation with Venezuela and its military?

1- As i said before probably by 2010
2- One of the next issues is the replacement of FAL with 5.56mm rifle, but we w'ill have to wait.
3- No. The "new" uniform is similar to the BDU used in Vietnam, but it's only for daily use. When units are deployed, they will use the Woodland type BDU.
4- The idea was to maintain operativity in the units equipped with the obsolete AMX-13, so the Army (in a very "wise" decision) chose to build an hybrid version: AMX-13 turret and Sk-105 chassis. In my opinion a complete waste of money.
5- Hope not...

[exarmyguard]

Thank you for the most informative replys. I have family in BA, Palomar, and I am always interested in Argentine military affairs.

DOes the AMX-13 have a 105mm gun or less? Is the argentine army going to use these "hybrids" in specific ways, that is as Main Battle tanks or infantry support tanks. And, yes, putting old turrets on new chassis is not a great idea.

[Pirulo2003]

Questions about your military.
Will the air force retire their Mirage jets soon?
THe FN FAL, is it to be retired or upgraded?
The uniform, the BDU like the USA, is their talk of a new uniform?
Why was the SK105, now to be built in Argentina, chosen over the TAM for the new purchase of tanks this past summer?
Is there cooperation with Venezuela and its military?

First, You have to understand this:

The economic crisis in Argentina dont't let any upgrade.

Every arms deal in Argentina is tainted with corruption.

The animosity between the civil administration and the military.

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The FN FAL was to be replaced in the late 80's with a 5.56mm FAL local version.

This is a prototype:
http://www.saorbats.com.ar/GaleriaSaorbats/EA05/EA05/images/DSCN9241.jpg

Then in the Menem administration they wanted the M-16 or the G-36, but nothing went right.

The actual administration (Kirchner) is trying to pull an arms deal with Russia, and maybe the army will use the AK-74 and the air force flying used Mig-29 to replace the Mirage.


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In the 60's and early 70's Argentina bought some Amx-13 and Sk-105.

In the 90's this tanks were in bad condition that only a few were running.

Because of the cost to produce and maintain the TAM is so high, in 2004 the Army decide to purchase some chasis kit from Steyr and adapt the turrets of the old Amx and Sk here in Argentina.

This proyect is called Patagon tank:

http://www.saorbats.com.ar/GaleriaSaorbats/06EA_EXPO/images/B1_DSCN9624_jpg.jpg

http://www.saorbats.com.ar/GaleriaSaorbats/06EA_EXPO/images/B2_DSCN9616_jpg.jpg

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Sorry about my english :roll:

[Pirulo2003]

This are some proyects of the Argentine Army, some never went into production and some are waiting for funds:

(All the pictures are from www.saorbats.com.ar)

http://www.saorbats.com.ar/GaleriaSaorbats/EAjul02/images/A%20VCA.JPG
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http://www.saorbats.com.ar/GaleriaSaorbats/MuseoEA/images/VAPE__enMuseo%20EA_CV_abr02_JPG.jpg

[EMPEROR ATTiLA]

http://www.ara.mil.ar/poder_naval/buques_superficie/transp_multiproposito/foto_05.jpg

is it ex english ship?

[Pirulo2003]

http://www.ara.mil.ar/poder_naval/buques_superficie/transp_multiproposito/foto_05.jpg

is it ex english ship?

Argentina bought two brand new Type 42 destroyers in the 70's.

They called Hercules (the one in the photo) and the Santisima Trinidad.

After Malvinas/Falkland war was imposible to get spare parts for the ships, and the Santisima Trirnidad was canibalized to get the Hercules running.

Then in 1999/2000 the Hercules was upgraded. They builded a superstructure for helicopters and some improvments in the armaments (Exocet launchers) and electronics.

[exarmyguard]

Gentlemen, you are a wealth of information. Many thanks and I look forward to more info.

Any pics of army dress uniforms? Class A uniforms are what they are called in the USA. We wear all green with black berets.

[alemarc72]

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[bosnian red mafia 202]

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Mirage 3CJ
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http://www.scramble.nl/mil/8/argentina/gfx/photos/faa-main-md500.jpg
Argentina's Air Force

[vajt]

Too bad Argentina doesn't come up with a more original and effective pattern. Now that the rest of the world is going digitized, they should also follow. I personally like this one from Hyperstealth, the Spec4ce Timber 2, and it looks like it would be fairly effective in their environment.

-----JT-----

[Ghelp]

Great photos.What model is the dirt bike?

[hammerlock]

Too bad Argentina doesn't come up with a more original and effective pattern. Now that the rest of the world is going digitized, they should also follow. I personally like this one from Hyperstealth, the Spec4ce Timber 2, and it looks like it would be fairly effective in their environment.

-----JT-----

Yeah maybe they can go ACU... now that's a digitized pattern that works.

[exarmyguard]

How about dress uniforms? Both officer and enlisted.

[vajt]

Yeah maybe they can go ACU... now that's a digitized pattern that works.

Yeah, in another post it was found that the true calling for the ACU was to blend in with a couch! Great for that indoor, urban fighting.

-----JT-----

[exarmyguard]

I hope Argentina keeps its FAL's. Advances in body armor will make the 5.56mm obselete. I like any rifle in 7.62mm and I am sure any well-trained soldier will take my side on this. Upgrades such as optics is a good idea. Investment in helicopters, high mobility trucks with missiles, old school RPG-7's and UAV's for the army would be more prudent. New uniforms are cool, but not necessary as BDU's are fine, in my opinion.

Any pictures of dress uniforms? The walking out ones, not the fancy ones.

[Forrester]

Too bad Argentina doesn't come up with a more original and effective pattern. Now that the rest of the world is going digitized, they should also follow. I personally like this one from Hyperstealth, the Spec4ce Timber 2, and it looks like it would be fairly effective in their environment.

-----JT-----
playing GRAW? hope to see you online sometime:)

[calimero2]

DOes the AMX-13 have a 105mm gun or less?

That depends on the model. But the FL-12 turrets that are mounted on the new chassis do have a 105mm gun.

[vajt]

I hope Argentina keeps its FAL's. Advances in body armor will make the 5.56mm obselete. I like any rifle in 7.62mm and I am sure any well-trained soldier will take my side on this. Upgrades such as optics is a good idea. Investment in helicopters, high mobility trucks with missiles, old school RPG-7's and UAV's for the army would be more prudent. New uniforms are cool, but not necessary as BDU's are fine, in my opinion.

Any pictures of dress uniforms? The walking out ones, not the fancy ones.

Here's my proposal...if budget allows:
-Replace FAL with a more modern 7.62mm (FN SCAR M17 or HK HK417)
-Adopt the new grenade launcher and Galileo Avionica sighting unit of the Italian Future Soldier
-Purchase the new MINIMI 7.62mm machinegun
-Purchase the Carl Gustav M3
-Purchase the Spike lightweight bazooka (when it comes out)
-Replace all the older armored wheeled vehicles and all tracked vehicles with new 6x6 and 8x8 (such as AMV, Piranha IV, VBCI or URUTU III)
-Purchase the Mi24/35_MKV as the new armed assault helicopter

-----JT-----