Mig-23/27 pics

[Gon4z]

Well I’am just interested to see MIG-23's & MIG-27's from different nations and to see all different paint jobs & markings so, don’t be shy...


I’ll start off by posting pics of a Czech Mig-23 & a Russian Mig-27

http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/colinspictures/images/aircraft/mig23/s005a_084.jpg
http://users.cihost.com/ata/aircraft/mig27.jpg

[LaoSexMachine]

Use the search button.

[Rumcajs]

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/217/5637jr5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8596/827129qt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9002/835909io6zm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





more
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=81001&page=10

[SoliDeoGloria]

I thought some major world event was happening with all the exclamation marks...p-)

[nick_ua]

Mig 27. Damgarten. Germany 1992
http://www.n-e-c.ru/foxbat/maks/mirow_19apib/mirow_19apib002.jpg
http://www.n-e-c.ru/foxbat/maks/mirow_19apib/mirow_19apib006.jpg
http://www.n-e-c.ru/foxbat/maks/mirow_19apib/mirow_19apib021.jpg
http://www.n-e-c.ru/foxbat/maks/mirow_19apib/mirow_19apib022.jpg

Mig23. Damgarten. Germany 1992
http://www.n-e-c.ru/foxbat/maks/mirow_19apib/mirow_19apib025.jpg
http://www.n-e-c.ru/foxbat/maks/mirow_19apib/mirow_19apib026.jpg
http://www.n-e-c.ru/foxbat/maks/mirow_19apib/mirow_19apib030.jpg

[blue104]

The MIG-23. Difficult to maintain and a poor combat record.

[GazB]

The MIG-23. Difficult to maintain and a poor combat record.

Not true. It was harder to maintain than a Mig-21, but the Mig-21 was simple and cheap to maintain... that made it quite popular.
The Mig-23 was much more capable, and its combat record has more to do with who was flying them and who they were flying against than any qualities, good or bad of the aircraft itself.

[CG51]

I have always like the mig-23. It served the soviets well for many years.

Question: was the mig-23 ever used as close air support for ground operations in afganistan? As in multi-purpose aircraft. Pics would be appreciated.

[Gon4z]

Not true. It was harder to maintain than a Mig-21, but the Mig-21 was simple and cheap to maintain... that made it quite popular.
The Mig-23 was much more capable, and its combat record has more to do with who was flying them and who they were flying against than any qualities, good or bad of the aircraft itself.

Yep the MIG-23 is one of the best Air combat fighetrs ever made....

[Gon4z]

I have always like the mig-23. It served the soviets well for many years.

Question: was the mig-23 ever used as close air support for ground operations in afganistan? As in multi-purpose aircraft. Pics would be appreciated.

The Mig-23 is primarly an air combat aircraft, but the MIg-27 is a ground attack and close air suport aircraft... apart from that the two aircraft are verry much similar...

as for afghanistan i know for a fact taht the Mig-23 dident provide close air suport since it not capable of taht role the Mig-27 migh of done those jobs, but iam not sure if the Mig-27 served in Afghanistand but the Su-25 was the main close airsuport aircraft for the afghan war in the 80's

[Rumcajs]

The Mig-23 is primarly an air combat aircraft, but the MIg-27 is a ground attack and close air suport aircraft... apart from that the two aircraft are verry much similar...

as for afghanistan i know for a fact taht the Mig-23 dident provide close air suport since it not capable of taht role the Mig-27 migh of done those jobs, but iam not sure if the Mig-27 served in Afghanistand but the Su-25 was the main close airsuport aircraft for the afghan war in the 80's

MiG-23 S, M, MF, ML, MLD versions were interceptors, but MiG-23BN was attack/nuclear bomber

ML
http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=816180cj7.jpg

BN
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=057fhghgf33rd2.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bnhs4.jpg

[wicked_hind]

The MIG-23. Difficult to maintain and a poor combat record.

True it was more complicated to maintain than other combat aircraft. Looking back at all the major engagements that involved Floggers, especially the 1982 Bekka Valley air battle and the Iran-Iraq War, you'll see that the majority of the Floggers shot down were of the less capable MiG-23MS export variant which is basically not more capable than a MiG-21. Seeing as it was only equipped with the same "Jaybird" radar and short range K-13 (AA-2 Atoll) IR and SARH missiles, it didn't have any BVR capability. Also, it only carried rudimentry RWR equipment and no IFF or ECM, and it had very poor stick response time. The cockpit setup wasn't the very best as far as improving the pilot's situational awareness, and of course, the pilot was hampered by having to be directed by GCI radar. Because the MiG-23 was also a single seater, the pilot is also burdened by a much heavier workload than say, the pilot/RIO combination in an F-14. Last, but not least, the Flogger was designed primarily as an interceptor, having good acceleration and speed while under GCI guidance to reach the target. But, when you compare the MiG-23 to the Israeli F-15s and F-16s, and Iranian F-14s and F-4D/Es, it's totally outmatched in avionics and weapons capabilities. The MiG-23's closest match would be the F-4, but it still lagged behind somewhat in maneuverability against an F-4E with leading edge slats. Nonetheless, both Syrian and Iraqi MiG-23MS Floggers did manage to shoot a number of Israeli and Iranian F-4s since their introduction in the 1970s. As the Iran-Iraq conflict dragged on, the Iraqis started recieving later MiG-23MF and MiG-23 ML versions, being armed with the R-23/R-60 (AA-7 Apex/AA-8 Aphid) combination, shooting down even more Iranian F-4s and F-5s, but still taking a beating from the Iranian Tomcats, Phantoms, and Tiger IIs. The later MiG-23 MLDs were the most capable Floggers in having improved aerodynamics, RWR and IFF hardware, good BVR capability, better stick response time, improved KM-1 ejection seats, and defensive chaff and flare systems that were mounted on each side of the tail in long fairings on the fuselage. In short, the early MiG-23 was a bad design, but as with anything else, you learn from any shortcomings and improve to make it better.

[wicked_hind]

Also, when you look at what happened over the Bekka Valley in 82', you'll notice that the Israelis practically had the Syrians in their grasp from the very beginning. After learning from their experience in the October War, the Israelis' first step was to knock out Syrian air defense radar and SAM sites. Also, the Israelis had the edge in having the E-2C Hawkeye to provide early warning and command & control, something that the Syrians didn't have other than GCI radar to direct their fighters. Once the Israelis contained the SAM threat, and Syrians really had no other option than to commit their fighter assets into the battle. Meanwhile, the F-15s and F-16s flying cover for the F-4s, Kfirs, and A-4s pounced on them and the result was 80+ shot down with zero air combat losses.

[jungle]

Superior command and control won the day. It really doesn't matter which fighter you are using-without proper air and ground C&C you will get your ass handed to you.

[exarmyguard]

India still has Mig27 in service and builds them under license.

[alexz]

Former Syrian Mig-23

[alex kendall]

Personally...i Just Don't See Tha Point.

[Boyko_Borisov]

Some pix from my collection:

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8728/619269sz4.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9167/mig27mqi0.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7264/mig3ls1.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1476/moose69059gfnm0.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6013/11topleftjh3.jpg

[enforcer]

Former iraqi MiG-23 in Yugoslavia...

[enforcer]

MiG-23 UB Libyan Air Force...
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7353/screenshot039cm8.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9917/screenshot040vc0.jpg