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2RHPZ
12-02-2006, 07:57 AM
I know there were some threads around history of LSD tests in military. Here is fresh article about Czechoslovak one. I saw that movie and it was pretty funny as they (officers, INF BDE staff) were going through decision process while planning a BDE advance into enemy territory ...

Could study of Czechoslovak tests lead to return to respectability for LSD?

The Canadian journalist R.M. Crockford is currently in Prague investigating LSD testing in communist Czechoslovakia. The tests are little known today, but they were extensive: up to 30 doctors carried out thousands of experiments over two decades. Mr Crockford is doing this research for the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies, an American non-profit group with an unusual agenda: MAPS aims to help scientists investigate the "healing and spiritual" potentials of psychedelic drugs and marijuana.


A picture from a film made of an LSD experiment conducted with soldiers at Stresovice military hospital around 1967

Link (http://www.radio.cz/en/issue/85719)

Switek
12-02-2006, 08:18 AM
There is one legal project of testing LSD as a drug supporting psyhotheraphy for schizophrenics in UK, Canada or US - do not remeber... The results are promising

ond26
12-02-2006, 10:25 AM
Czech Military LSD experiment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HXMHdhQL_8

exarmyguard
12-02-2006, 02:40 PM
That might be a good way to get some of the young stoners to enlist. LOL

khukuri
12-02-2006, 03:54 PM
Im def pro legalizing lsd

Connaught Ranger
12-04-2006, 01:39 PM
Hallo Gentlemen.:)

with regards the subject of L.S.D. first I would have to ask when ever was it know as respectable?

It has always been one of the most dangerous drugs especially with regards the occurence of haluciagenic "flashbacks" some of which lead to the death of the user.

There were I believe, plans to mix it (LSD) into Soviet city water supplys to cause mass panic in the event of the "Cold War" turning "Hot," as well documented evidence of its use on US service personel who were used as un-informed guinea pigs while in military service in the 1960s.
A number of court-cases in the 1980 resulted with the victims suing the US Military for their abuse while under military service.

Can you imagine the effects of this drugs after-effects on a "recreational" user who is the Pilot of an Aeroplane, or the driver of a bus while at work?

There is not enough knowledge on its effects in general for some "dope-heads" wanting to see it made legal, God-knows the Heroin and Cocaine users are messed up enough and causing misery to all around them, so why add another drug for them to use.:cantbeli:

Connaughtranger.

OldRecon
12-05-2006, 05:20 PM
There were extensive studies (partly sponsored by the CIA) on the effects of LSD carried out on selected patients of Norwegian mental hospitals during the 1960's and part of the 1970's. In some cases without conscientous agreements from the either the patients themselves or people acting as their guardians (when the patients were too ill themselves to make conscientous decisions). Most of the patients subjected to this threatment were schizophrenia cases.
To my knowledge the state of most of the subjected patients became worse of the LSD threatment. In some cases ending with the patients commiting suicides.
Also there were reputedly a tendency of the medical personel involved in these Norwegian experiments to report findings in medical records in a more positive light and self enhancing light than was actualy true. Thus making those records a somewhat unreliable source of information for future experiments.
In short it's one of the dark chapters in the history of medical research in my country.
Now if Czech psychiatry of the given period had as bad a reputation of misuse on political dissidents as Soviet psychiatry of the time, given the experience with such research in my own country, I would be rather suspicious with regards to viewing reports from these Czech experiments as a viable source of further research.

pascalywood
12-05-2006, 06:39 PM
There were extensive studies (partly sponsored by the CIA) on the effects of LSD carried out on selected patients of Norwegian mental hospitals during the 1960's and part of the 1970's. In some cases without conscientous agreements from the either the patients themselves or people acting as their guardians (when the patients were too ill themselves to make conscientous decisions). Most of the patients subjected to this threatment were schizophrenia cases.
To my knowledge the state of most of the subjected patients became worse of the LSD threatment. In some cases ending with the patients commiting suicides.
Also there were reputedly a tendency of the medical personel involved in these Norwegian experiments to report findings in medical records in a more positive light and self enhancing light than was actualy true. Thus making those records a somewhat unreliable source of information for future experiments.
In short it's one of the dark chapters in the history of medical research in my country.
Now if Czech psychiatry of the given period had as bad a reputation of misuse on political dissidents as Soviet psychiatry of the time, given the experience with such research in my own country, I would be rather suspicious with regards to viewing reports from these Czech experiments as a viable source of further research.

Similar tests were conducted in Montreal's psychiatric hospital by the CIA and the Canadian govt

OldRecon
12-08-2006, 08:29 PM
Similar tests were conducted in Montreal's psychiatric hospital by the CIA and the Canadian govt

And they were equaly controversial?