Damn trigger happy GIs

[Kingpin]

Russian specialist was injured in Iraq when American troops opened fire on building site where he worked.

[BlackRain]

As far as your claim that an American shot a Russian goes, it is not supported. He is being treated in an American hospital.


BAGHDAD, April 15 (Itar-Tass) - A Russian specialist received bullet wounds in Iraq, Russian Embassy representative Alexander Strakhov told Itar-Tass here on Thursday.

The specialist from the Interenergoservis company was wounded 90 kilometers from the Iraqi capital on Wednesday.

"He has undergone surgery in a U.S. hospital; his life is not in danger. The circumstances of the incident are unknown," Strakhov said.

AND


An employee of the Russian company Interenergoservis, Sergei Brazhnikov, was wounded in Iraq, Interfax news agency reported Thursday.

A spokesman for the Russian embassy in Iraq Bashir Malsagov has told the agency that Brazhnikov had been working at a construction site in Baghdad when a stray bullet hit his leg. The wounded man was then taken to an American hospital in Baghdad and operated on. His condition is described as “normal", Malsagov said.

There is no evidence that he was wounded as a result of gunfire from U.S. troops, a diplomatic source has told the agency.

The Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed on Thursday afternoon that one of the Russian workers in Iraq had been wounded. At present moment S. Brazhnikov is in the US military hospital in Baghdad and his condition is reported as satisfactory, the Intefax news agency reported, quoting an official statement from the Foreign Ministry. The document gave the date of the incident as April 14.

On Sunday, eight employees of the company were taken hostage in Baghdad by a group of armed people. They were released on Monday. 315 of the 365 workers of the company decided to stay in Iraq despite the ongoing evacuation.


Planes arrive to evacuate Russian and CIS nationals from Iraq

In the middle of today, three planes of the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry sent to Iraq to evacuate staff members of Russian firms have landed in the international airport of Baghdad. The jumbo jets Il-62M and Il-76 landed at 40-minute intervals.

About 360 persons are awaiting evacuation in the airport, the RIA Novosti correspondent reports.

Initially, it was supposed to take out of Iraq 553 Russians and 263 people of the Commonwealth of Independent States working on contract with Russian firms. Four more flights were scheduled for Friday to take them all to Moscow, the spokesman for the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry said. Evacuation is voluntary and many have decided to stay despite the complex set-up in Iraq. Therefore, the evacuation is expected to be over today.

The Americans have banned for Russian journalists arriving to Baghdad by the same planes to take pictures on the airfield.

Among the people to be evacuated are 39 Belarussian nationals, RIA Novosti learnt from the Belarussian embassy in Moscow. They did work in Iraq on contract with the Russian company Tekhnopromexport and were building industrial facilities.

[farmgirl]

Context? Let's see the article, so those of us who want the entire story can comment. :roll:

[BlackRain]

Too quick to blame American's and not a single wasted electron on mentioning the even smallest possibility it was an Iraqi.

BIAS

[HELEX]

Maybe the old "evil commie" target scheme is to blame :roll:

[shrek]

I love the heading on this post and the comment by the poster. I love it!! You guys are too much, even when you don't have anything to bitch about you just make crap up. Get a friggin life!

p.s. Hey farmgirl

[ForceReaper]

Kingpin, you have some of the worst trained "soldiers" I have ever had the displeasure of training in the 90's. TTP's were never adhered too and the discipline was atrocious. You really need to worry about your own troops because they certainly dont cut it when it comes to being a well trained fighting force.
This guy probably shot himself while retreating with the Uzbeki's!

[farmgirl]

I love the heading on this post and the comment by the poster. I love it!! You guys are too much, even when you don't have anything to bitch about you just make crap up. Get a friggin life!

p.s. Hey farmgirl



At least he isn't too predictable. :roll: As far as I'm concerned.... a thread started to discuss happenings reported in the news media should always include a link or the quoted article.... or both. In fact, I move that this become board policy. Can I get a second? ;)


ps... hi ya Shrek.... what's doin'? :D

[Trigger]

I move that the moderators just drop the hammer on several of the 'notorious' flame baiters NOW.

When are we going to draw the line?
It ain't getting better.

[Midav]

In that case, everyone stop feeding the Troll ;)

[SEALInTheMaking]

I second farmgirl. Kingpin, this kind of crap is rediculous. Im getting really sick of all the cheap shots pointed at our troops.

[Midav]

Try to laugh about it.

That's what I do. There's nothing to debate here.

If people give him what he wants, attention, then he'll continue with these types of threads.

Every once in a while Kingpin has a good thread. Just too bad he has a hard time fathoming that the cold war is over, methinks :)

[HELEX]

WTF!!!!??!!! :oops:

The cold war is over? :(

[Fintin]

Too quick to blame American's and not a single wasted electron on mentioning the even smallest possibility it was an Iraqi.

BIAS

the russians are the ones that gave the weapons to the iraqies, let alone the training....to blame the iraqies for this would be like blaming his own troops....he just wants a scape goat

[MEGR]

Too quick to blame American's and not a single wasted electron on mentioning the even smallest possibility it was an Iraqi.

BIAS

the russians are the ones that gave the weapons to the iraqies, let alone the training....to blame the iraqies for this would be like blaming his own troops....he just wants a scape goat

We gave some weapons to the Iraqis also. However, lets not flame about something stupid like we always do.

[Fintin]

Too quick to blame American's and not a single wasted electron on mentioning the even smallest possibility it was an Iraqi.

BIAS

the russians are the ones that gave the weapons to the iraqies, let alone the training....to blame the iraqies for this would be like blaming his own troops....he just wants a scape goat

We gave some weapons to the Iraqis also. However, lets not flame about something stupid like we always do.

true...but its the rifles in question here....frankly i dont care who shot him....he is working in a country where bullets fly every day....he knew that....he still chose to be there.....all boils down to sh#T happens...just all be thankful he is still alive and well

[16 OBr SpN]

Kingpin, you have some of the worst trained "soldiers" I have ever had the displeasure of training in the 90's. TTP's were never adhered too and the discipline was atrocious. You really need to worry about your own troops because they certainly dont cut it when it comes to being a well trained fighting force.
This guy probably shot himself while retreating with the Uzbeki's!

Here comes another "instructor"... :roll:
Care to give me your name, and/or when/where did you "train" our soldiers? Or maybe you could give me the name of the unit that you supposedly trained?

For your info, I gave almost 18 years of my life to our Armed forces. You can talk about it with me, and I'll listen to you very carefully! :lol:

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[16 OBr SpN]

Russian specialist was injured in Iraq when American troops opened fire on building site where he worked.

Kingpin, you have to understand that there is war going on.

When soldiers are faced with possibility of being shot from every corner or being blown up, they all become trigger happy no matter of soldiers' nationality. That's the way it goes in any war.

You see, you said "building site", so that means a site which can be a potential enemy position. For example, those guys were walking near that place when suddenly, they heard/saw movement. Do you think those guys would wait for a possible RPG or machinegun barrage? No. A split second of pause can cost a life.
It's not like he was walking towards the Americans on the open street and they opened fire. Therefore, I think your topic's title is inappropriate.

IMO, those civilian specialists shouldn't even be there in the first place!

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[MEGR]

Hey.. I'm very curious, and want to know if you (Obr) have been involved in the Rusian SOF.. If so, which unit.. Also, what about Permiiskon (not sure if i spelled it right).

[RomanS]

screw the topic, and all the flames.

I JUST WANNA SEE ForceReaper's reply to 16 OBR

[MaDuce]

STFU Kingpin stop trying to piss people off using information about incidents that you know nothing about.

[anonymous individual]

Someone got pwned!

[Trident-za]

Well said, 16 OBr SpN. About time we got some responses from people who've actually been under fire before - a very rare thing on these forums.

[NcDeuce]

Russian specialist was injured in Iraq when American troops opened fire on building site where he worked.

Kingpin has a bright future...in tabloids

[Russian Texan]

Hey.. I'm very curious, and want to know if you (Obr) have been involved in the Rusian SOF.. If so, which unit.. Also, what about Permiiskon (not sure if i spelled it right).

Look at his avatar, it says it all...
Also check out his previous posts - lots of very interesting info and unique insight into Russian military.

[usa320]

damnit he makes threads like this to bait you people into flame wars.

Ignore them. Dont feed the troll.

[Kingpin]

Who knows why but in some day i'm starting create tons of stupid topics only result of which is pointless flame war.

I should apologize for this.

(May be I'm having premenstrual syndrome rofl rofl rofl)

PS - Anyway it was US bullet extracted in hospital.

[Yard Ape]

At least he isn't too predictable. :roll: As far as I'm concerned.... a thread started to discuss happenings reported in the news media should always include a link or the quoted article.... or both. In fact, I move that this become board policy. Can I get a second? ;) I second the motion.

Kingpin, you had 3 posts locked last night for starting on this tone. Do you not take hints?

[shorty]

Nice topic....P.S. Ever heard the joke about the commie with a cold? Needless to say he was fighting a "cold" war......Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck........ rofl That joke made about as much sense as this whole thread. But it was funny so who gives a rats behind!

[ForceReaper]

Just for the record I have apologized to 16 OBr spN. Whether he accepts it or not is up to him. I came here as a favor to a friend and stepped over my bounds. I will not get into OPSEC stories even though Iam the one that brought it up. I am sorry to any of the fine Russian Soldiers that I may have offended, I was upset and trying to make a point more than anything BUT I will not apologize to KINGPIN he needs to be dealt with by you guys.Iam a recently retired Marine and sometimes my emotions get the best of me especially when i hear BS coming from an individual who obviously has a biased agenda against the US. Now i will try to bow out gracefully. Thank you for your time

[Sergei]

Too quick to blame American's and not a single wasted electron on mentioning the even smallest possibility it was an Iraqi.

BIAS

the russians are the ones that gave the weapons to the iraqies, let alone the training....to blame the iraqies for this would be like blaming his own troops....he just wants a scape goat

What about nerve gas to kill the Kurds? Also russians or was it Uncle Sam? Get your facts straight.

[ShotOver]

Hrmm..

I really think Kingpin should be banned, same as mushedtomato, could even go as far as saying Russian Texan should follow suit.

Yes, they will come back to me and say I should leave, which is fine. If the majority of this website wants me gone, I’ll bugger off.

But the flame wars are getting extremely stupid, with little attacks on American troops here and there, most of you should know that Americans dominate these forums, so posting negative things about them or their highly trained and professional soldiers, Airmen and Marines will not go unnoticed.

Clean up your act people.

[16 OBr SpN]

Just for the record I have apologized to 16 OBr spN. Whether he accepts it or not is up to him. I came here as a favor to a friend and stepped over my bounds. I will not get into OPSEC stories even though Iam the one that brought it up. I am sorry to any of the fine Russian Soldiers that I may have offended, I was upset and trying to make a point more than anything BUT I will not apologize to KINGPIN he needs to be dealt with by you guys.Iam a recently retired Marine and sometimes my emotions get the best of me especially when i hear BS coming from an individual who obviously has a biased agenda against the US. Now i will try to bow out gracefully. Thank you for your time

No problem!
I consider the subject closed.

Welcome to the forum! I hope you will stay around, and I'm sure your further input will be much appreciated!

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[dacanadianbomb]

Kingpin,
Can you support your statement that a NATO caliber 5,56 round was taken out of his leg with some news.

And yes having to post the entire article should become board policy.
It gives the people the opportunity to judge their believe of an article when one knows the entire thing and the agency that published it.

[Kingpin]

Kingpin,
Can you support your statement that a NATO caliber 5,56 round was taken out of his leg with some news.

And yes having to post the entire article should become board policy.
It gives the people the opportunity to judge their believe of an article when one knows the entire thing and the agency that published it.

Ok ->



www.izvestia.ru
В четверг стало известно о том, что в Ираке был ранен российский специалист. Сергей Бражников, сотрудник компании "Интерэнергосервис", в среду получил огнестрельное ранение в ногу. Ранее несколько сотрудников той же компании были взяты в заложники. Тогда инцидент удалось быстро разрешить и никто не пострадал.

- Как нас уверяют американцы, Сергей Бражников был ранен по случайному стечению обстоятельств. Был самопроизвольный выстрел. У одного из американских солдат, которые охраняют станцию в Эль-Мусейибе. Это южнее Багдада, по дороге на Хилу. Там находится теплоэлектростанция, ее в настоящий момент ремонтируют сотрудники компании "Интерэнергосервис". Вот один из них, находясь на стройплощадке, получил ранение в ногу в результате случайного выстрела, - рассказал "Известиям" Сергей Мельников, временный поверенный в делах России в Ираке.

Инцидент произошел вечером в среду. Ранив Сергея Бражникова, американцы тут же доставили его в свой госпиталь в Багдаде, в "зеленой зоне", где располагаются штаб-квартира коалиционной администрации и основная американская база. В госпитале Бражникову сделали операцию на мягких тканях ноги, чтобы удалить пулю. Врачи, оперировавшие специалиста "Интерэнергосервиса", сообщили в четверг представителям российского посольства, что операция прошла успешно, состояние больного расценивается как удовлетворительное. В посольстве сообщили о том, что Бражников может быть эвакуирован на родину в пятницу рейсом МЧС - в том случае, если позволит состояние его здоровья.

В пресс-центре штаб-квартиры коалиционных сил в Багдаде "Известиям" заявили, что пока информацией о том, что американский солдат ранил российского гражданина, не располагают.

- Мы совершенно ничего об этом не знаем. Вы говорите, американский солдат убил российского гражданина? Ранил?.. Нет, такой информации у нас нет.

По данным российского посольства в Багдаде, на территории Ирака до четверга находилось около 816 граждан стран СНГ. Из них 553 - граждане России. МЧС России уже договорилось с коллегами по Содружеству, что возьмет на себя эвакуацию всех бывших сограждан. Помимо россиян в Ираке работают украинцы, армяне и узбеки. В основном это технические специалисты, работающие по контракту в российских компаниях. Наиболее многочисленный персонал в Ираке имеют компании "Интерэнергосервис" и "Технопромэкспорт": 370 сотрудников первой задействованы на строительстве ТЭЦ "Юсифия" под Багдадом, 365 рабочих и инженеров "Интерэнергосервиса" восстанавливают ТЭЦ "Дора", "Южный Багдад" и "Эль-Мусейиб" и ТЭС "Нассирия".



Американские солдаты ранили гражданина России
vip.lenta.ru
Сводка событий в Ираке: 14 апреля
Сотрудник российской компании "Интерэнергосервис" Сергей Бражников был ранен в Ираке при обстреле в 90 километрах от Багдада. Как сообщает агентство "Интерфакс" со ссылкой на старшего советника посольства России в Багдаде Башира Мальсагова, огонь велся со стороны позиций американских солдат.
"Российский гражданин Сергей Бражников был ранен случайно в то время, когда он находился на объекте, на строительстве электростанции, случайной пулей, залетевшей через реку при обстреле американцами этого региона", - сказал дипломат.

По словам Мальсагова, российский специалист получил пулевое ранение мягких тканей ноги. Американцы немедленно доставили пострадавшего в военный госпиталь в Багдаде, где ему была сделана операция по удалению пули.

Самочувствие Бражникова в настоящее время нормальное, отметил советник посольства. Рассматривается вопрос об его эвакуации на родину самолетом МЧС.


Satisfied?

[ShotOver]

I have seen plenty of photos of Insurgents with M16A2's and other rifles that use the NATO 5.56 round, also many of you saw the photo with one Insurgent with a M249 SAW.

Plus, i can't read russian, so im not going to believe a bull**** artist such as yourself on what it says.

[Kingpin]

I have seen plenty of photos of Insurgents with M16A2's and other rifles that use the NATO 5.56 round, also many of you saw the photo with one Insurgent with a M249 SAW.

Plus, i can't read russian, so im not going to believe a bull**** artist such as yourself on what it says.

You received what you're asked for. You blamed me that i do not post my sources. Here it is. And now you're still unsatisfied.

Ok, i'll give you translation.

One of GIs who guards power plant in Al-Museyiba accidentaly shot one of Russian specialists who works here - Sergey Brazhnikov in leg. He was immediately delivered to American hospital where bullet was removed.

[ShotOver]

Hahaha, suuuure.

Where is the info about the 5.56mm NATO round that was removed from him?
And who saw this.. etc.

[weedman]

In my opinon, most of the American units are trained to be a killer, not a soldier. Just look at the killing rates nowadays and compare them to those in WWII.

I really don't want to condemn this, but I think, the current situation in Iraq is rather in need of police-like stabilizing units then heavy military.

[mocking_loudly_died]

In my opinon, most of the American units are trained to be a killer, not a soldier. Just look at the killing rates nowadays and compare them to those in WWII.


What the f*ck are talking about?

Christ.

[Fox2]

It seems there are more and more wackos everyday in this forum.

*holds on to Mocking's avatar*

[weedman]

What the f*ck are talking about?
A usual infantry soldier during the WW2 had a kill rate of about 25%.

Now look at the structural developments in the US Military and think about, what would happen with such a rate nowadays?

[Fox2]

I think he is trying to say that we kick ass.

[mocking_loudly_died]

What the f*ck are talking about?
A usual infantry soldier during the WW2 had a kill rate of about 25%.

Now look at the structural developments in the US Military and think about, what would happen with such a rate nowadays?

You still don't make any sense, what do you mean by "structural developments". If this is a pointless anti-american jab please don't bother us.

[weedman]

As I said before, I am really not opposing High-Tech soldiers, but I don't think that these units are the best choice for the establishment of peace in a country like Iraq.

[Truthsayer]

In fact, I move that this become board policy. Can I get a second? ;)

I second that.

[Tengu]

As I said before, I am really not opposing High-Tech soldiers, but I don't think that these units are the best choice for the establishment of peace in a country like Iraq.Dude killer=soldier, welcome to the real world. Don't want some pussy no good leftie next to me in battle, i want those guys on the side the enemy.

And what this guy is trying say (i think!) is that US soldiers aren't trained or have enough experience to police iraq.

[ForceReaper]

I have seen plenty of photos of Insurgents with M16A2's and other rifles that use the NATO 5.56 round, also many of you saw the photo with one Insurgent with a M249 SAW.

Plus, i can't read russian, so im not going to believe a bull**** artist such as yourself on what it says.

You received what you're asked for. You blamed me that i do not post my sources. Here it is. And now you're still unsatisfied.

Ok, i'll give you translation.

One of GIs who guards power plant in Al-Museyiba accidentaly shot one of Russian specialists who works here - Sergey Brazhnikov in leg. He was immediately delivered to American hospital where bullet was removed.Kingpin can someone please re-check the spelling of the name of the power plant. This is very important as I believe this is where my friend is headed(TP).In fact I know this is where he is going but the spelling just seems a little off. Thank you

[ForceReaper]

As I said before, I am really not opposing High-Tech soldiers, but I don't think that these units are the best choice for the establishment of peace in a country like Iraq. I think you need to step away from the weed Man!

[Ichhabe]

What the f*ck are talking about?
A usual infantry soldier during the WW2 had a kill rate of about 25%.

Now look at the structural developments in the US Military and think about, what would happen with such a rate nowadays?

Where do you have those numbers from?


kill rate of about 25%.

I actually don't understand this.

[XASA]

I have seen plenty of photos of Insurgents with M16A2's and other rifles that use the NATO 5.56 round, also many of you saw the photo with one Insurgent with a M249 SAW.

Plus, i can't read russian, so im not going to believe a bull**** artist such as yourself on what it says.

You received what you're asked for. You blamed me that i do not post my sources. Here it is. And now you're still unsatisfied.

Ok, i'll give you translation.

One of GIs who guards power plant in Al-Museyiba accidentaly shot one of Russian specialists who works here - Sergey Brazhnikov in leg. He was immediately delivered to American hospital where bullet was removed.

If it was an accident, why is the title of your post "Trigger Happy"? And if you knew it was an accident, why are you dissing the troops? Makes me wonder about your credibility dude ;)

[Kingpin]

If it was an accident, why is the title of your post "Trigger Happy"? And if you knew it was an accident, why are you dissing the troops? Makes me wonder about your credibility dude ;)

First of all when i posted my first message there wasn't details available. But anyway i'm not native speaker so as i understabd being trigger happy also leads to such incidents.

[ShotOver]

If there were no details available, then why make the topic in the first place? :roll:

[shorty]

Two words why he made it....Flame war.....Plain and simple :bash: Anyways if a friendly shoots another friendly it is NOT called being trigger happy, it is called friendly fire or blue on blue. Judging by the location of this plant it is very likely that the person who shot the russian was an enemy gunmen. Jeez!! Give me a break..... :-*$

[farmgirl]

If it was an accident, why is the title of your post "Trigger Happy"? And if you knew it was an accident, why are you dissing the troops? Makes me wonder about your credibility dude ;)

First of all when i posted my first message there wasn't details available. But anyway i'm not native speaker so as i understabd being trigger happy also leads to such incidents.


Hmmmm you posted at 12:25pm, and Black Rain read your message and posted his reply (with details... although not your details) at 12:32pm. That's amazing. :roll: You didn't post a link, because the details available didn't support your erroneous allegations. It's as simple as that.

[ibstolidude]

If it was an accident, why is the title of your post "Trigger Happy"? And if you knew it was an accident, why are you dissing the troops? Makes me wonder about your credibility dude ;)

First of all when i posted my first message there wasn't details available. But anyway i'm not native speaker so as i understabd being trigger happy also leads to such incidents.


Hmmmm you posted at 12:25pm, and Black Rain read your message and posted his reply (with details... although not your details) at 12:32pm. That's amazing. :roll: You didn't post a link, because the details available didn't support your erroneous allegations. It's as simple as that.
And you asked one of us to pull CP for you??

You fire just fine!

[Kingpin]

If it was an accident, why is the title of your post "Trigger Happy"? And if you knew it was an accident, why are you dissing the troops? Makes me wonder about your credibility dude ;)

First of all when i posted my first message there wasn't details available. But anyway i'm not native speaker so as i understabd being trigger happy also leads to such incidents.


Hmmmm you posted at 12:25pm, and Black Rain read your message and posted his reply (with details... although not your details) at 12:32pm. That's amazing. :roll: You didn't post a link, because the details available didn't support your erroneous allegations. It's as simple as that.

No! There wasn't my version in English at a time of my first post. Only in Russian. And AFAIK no western media posted my initial version until today. So i was forced to translate on my own. This very simple and straight explanation.

[Kingpin]

Force Reaper just posted version convinient for him to bash me and to defened his troops. While I suppose he have good enough knowledge of Russian language to search in our news what we received here.

[ShotOver]

You are your news are full of ****, we wouldnt take anything you or any Russian website seriously, so give us a break.

[Kingpin]

You are your news are full of ****, we wouldnt take anything you or any Russian website seriously, so give us a break.

Same with yours BS media

Anyway here:
http://www-download.1tv.ru/video/2004_04/1604041202.asf

[Catch22]

Kingpin, remember discussion about offensive avatars? This goes a similiar way - You heat up things with writing somewhat offensive topic name, then w argue for 3 pages why it is offensive and why some of us feel offended - and then you learn nothing and do exactly the same thing again. You dissed the UN once, knowing it may hurt those who served under blue banner. Now, I understand you may be pissed because one of your compatriots was hurt, but it was a pure accident - lest you know any more details it was the other way. Personally, if some Polish aid worker or engineer would be injuried in similiar way, I'd just report the news, and gather some details on circumstances. This wasn't attack on Russia's pride or something... There's no need to react in such way Kingpin. I just wish it wasn't anything serious and the guy will be ok.

[Haiw]

You are your news are full of ****, we wouldnt take anything you or any Russian website seriously, so give us a break.

Same with yours BS media

Anyway here:
http://www-download.1tv.ru/video/2004_04/1604041202.asf
The Russian media is also unreliable. I was watching the news on RTR a few days ago, and they were doing a story on how Chechens had gone to Iraq to fight the Americans. It may be that there are some there; a lot of foreign terrorists have flocked to Iraq. But this reporter interviewed an American lieutenant colonel. The American officer clearly said, in English, that they had no intelligence reports on Chechen fighters in Iraq. The reporter, narrating the story, claimed he said they had reports of numerous Chechens but had failed to capture any.
Just one example of how 'reliable' your media is... No offense, but Russian media is still one of the most biased in the world.

[springwheat]

A usual infantry soldier during the WW2 had a kill rate of about 25%.

Now look at the structural developments in the US Military and think about, what would happen with such a rate nowadays?Thats a really poor comparison, and a discredit to the WW2 serviceman. The men (and women) are cut from the same cloth, all that has changed are the circumstances.

[Kingpin]

You are your news are full of ****, we wouldnt take anything you or any Russian website seriously, so give us a break.

Same with yours BS media

Anyway here:
http://www-download.1tv.ru/video/2004_04/1604041202.asf
The Russian media is also unreliable. I was watching the news on RTR a few days ago, and they were doing a story on how Chechens had gone to Iraq to fight the Americans. It may be that there are some there; a lot of foreign terrorists have flocked to Iraq. But this reporter interviewed an American lieutenant colonel. The American officer clearly said, in English, that they had no intelligence reports on Chechen fighters in Iraq. The reporter, narrating the story, claimed he said they had reports of numerous Chechens but had failed to capture any.
Just one example of how 'reliable' your media is... No offense, but Russian media is still one of the most biased in the world.

Never heard this story here. We never claimed about Chechens in Iraq. We claimed about Chechens in Afganistan and this was confirmed even by some american on this board. So i don't know how to react at this quote.

[Kingpin]

Wow! I found this report on their site. Unfortunately i have here weak bandwidth so i'll check out what he told only on Monday.

[ForceReaper]

Force Reaper just posted version convinient for him to bash me and to defened his troops. While I suppose he have good enough knowledge of Russian language to search in our news what we received here.WTF are you talking about? I posted no such version of the events in the article you posted. What I posted was a very angry response to YOUR post and I went off on Russian troops.I apologized here and in PM(and I was sincere with my apology). I even asked for a re-translation of the name of the power plant. Thats all! You need to re-check yourself bitch because I will not let you start a flame war here about me.Your agenda is obvious. If you dont have your stories correct or corraberated then stay off the net and if you have a problem with the language then dont post **** if you re not sure.Watch your step you are walking a fine line bud!

[Kingpin]

Force Reaper just posted version convinient for him to bash me and to defened his troops. While I suppose he have good enough knowledge of Russian language to search in our news what we received here.WTF are you talking about? I posted no such version of the events in the article you posted. What I posted was a very angry response to YOUR post and I went off on Russian troops.I apologized here and in PM(and I was sincere with my apology). I even asked for a re-translation of the name of the power plant. Thats all! You need to re-check yourself bitch because I will not let you start a flame war here about me.Your agenda is obvious. If you dont have your stories correct or corraberated then stay off the net and if you have a problem with the language then dont post **** if you re not sure.Watch your step you are walking a fine line bud!

I mixed up you with Rain. Sorry about it
...walking fine line... Look at him. He's threating me... Ha ha. Come here and kill me if you sooo cool.

[ForceReaper]

Force Reaper just posted version convinient for him to bash me and to defened his troops. While I suppose he have good enough knowledge of Russian language to search in our news what we received here.WTF are you talking about? I posted no such version of the events in the article you posted. What I posted was a very angry response to YOUR post and I went off on Russian troops.I apologized here and in PM(and I was sincere with my apology). I even asked for a re-translation of the name of the power plant. Thats all! You need to re-check yourself bitch because I will not let you start a flame war here about me.Your agenda is obvious. If you dont have your stories correct or corraberated then stay off the net and if you have a problem with the language then dont post **** if you re not sure.Watch your step you are walking a fine line bud!

I mixed up you with Rain. Sorry about it
...walking fine line... Look at him. He's threating me... Ha ha. Come here and kill me if you sooo cool. I dont need to threaten a weak little man as yourself,you are digging your own hole.
Maybe my new friend 16 OBr SPn is in your AO and can have a little chat with you or maybe the Admins could just ban your ass for stupidity it wouldnt really be all that difficult.

[farmgirl]

If it was an accident, why is the title of your post "Trigger Happy"? And if you knew it was an accident, why are you dissing the troops? Makes me wonder about your credibility dude ;)

First of all when i posted my first message there wasn't details available. But anyway i'm not native speaker so as i understabd being trigger happy also leads to such incidents.


Hmmmm you posted at 12:25pm, and Black Rain read your message and posted his reply (with details... although not your details) at 12:32pm. That's amazing. :roll: You didn't post a link, because the details available didn't support your erroneous allegations. It's as simple as that.
And you asked one of us to pull CP for you??

You fire just fine!


I just like having big strong men around me..... p-) anything wrong with that???? ;)

[hood]

I move that the moderators just drop the hammer on several of the 'notorious' flame baiters NOW.

When are we going to draw the line?
It ain't getting better.

Done.