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IFOR77
12-04-2006, 05:29 PM
Hello everybody,:)

Today i´ve got my new So Tech Callahan Convertible Plate Carrier, and now i´m looking for some Pics which could inspire me to finish my load out.

It would be great if you could post some pics of your finished loadout.

Thanks in Advance...

IFOR77...

Ps.: Sorry for my Bad English:roll:

lt tahoe
12-04-2006, 06:21 PM
Pictures? Your loadout should be dictated by your needs, not pictures. What do you have to carry in it?

TacoDelRio
12-04-2006, 07:51 PM
Perhaps you're looking for the Airsoft section, IFOR77?

elliswongch
12-05-2006, 11:03 AM
http://images5.fotop.net/albums5/SOTF506/SOTF50611/CIMG1580a.jpg
enjoy it:oops:

LaoSexMachine
12-05-2006, 11:04 AM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3655/chestrig003fn2.jpg


Part of my hurricane/zombie infestation kit.

Catch22
12-05-2006, 11:07 AM
C'mon stop pimpin' Zeke! ;-)

LaoSexMachine
12-05-2006, 11:11 AM
Heheheh. Just a $10 Chinese chest rig. BTW a friend is sending me some Polish chest rig. He use to be in the same camp as them in Iraq.

Blackburn
12-05-2006, 11:14 AM
Well ezekiel, great deal then ;)

James
12-05-2006, 12:54 PM
Pictures? Your loadout should be dictated by your needs, not pictures. What do you have to carry in it?

Well said.

Is this airsoft?

kayaker
12-05-2006, 06:14 PM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3655/chestrig003fn2.jpg


Part of my hurricane/zombie infestation kit.

I'd always liked one of those vests for my outdoor activities or as survival vest... any source to get it for a tenner?

LaoSexMachine
12-05-2006, 07:03 PM
I'd always liked one of those vests for my outdoor activities or as survival vest... any source to get it for a tenner?

I got mine at the local surplus store but I seen on some sites for pretty cheap.


http://www.sportsmansguide.com/ctlg/ctlg_page.asp?cid=205&page=114

http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MSS&Category_Code=265

kayaker
12-05-2006, 07:31 PM
cheers pal!

11B101ABN
12-06-2006, 04:20 PM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3655/chestrig003fn2.jpg


Part of my hurricane/zombie infestation kit.


Rounds down, high speed.

kayaker
12-06-2006, 04:21 PM
good one... easier to load and stay dry...ish

Weasel
12-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Rounds down, high speed.

Rounds up and you can see if the mag is empty or not.

kayaker
12-06-2006, 04:27 PM
but the empty mags go into a drop pouch or the inside of your smock... :D what I learned

ShakesFIST
12-06-2006, 05:53 PM
Rounds up and you can see if the mag is empty or not.

Its personal preference!
(I prefer rounds down)

rhino
12-06-2006, 06:00 PM
common isnt obvious that with the round down that pic wouldnt be so cool???

BrianT
12-06-2006, 06:12 PM
Rounds up and you can see if the mag is empty or not.
If you put the rounds down and put empty mags up, you'll still be able to tell.

Catch22
12-06-2006, 06:34 PM
Heheheh. Just a $10 Chinese chest rig. BTW a friend is sending me some Polish chest rig. He use to be in the same camp as them in Iraq.

Good Lord, I can only hope you get some of our stuff not the issue crap. Show us a pic when it arrives.

And I'd say AR mags go rounds down, AK rounds up - because of the steel "tooth" they sometimes get stuck, especially in CQB or shingle type pouches.

LaoSexMachine
12-06-2006, 09:45 PM
Rounds down, high speed.

I remeber that next time I engage zombies and paper targets. Besides I prefer them up. Even did that when I was in the Corps(back in the 782 gear and iron sights day).

22.5degrees
12-06-2006, 10:22 PM
Empty mags never go back into your rig. Oh, and its rounds down.... For high speed.

22.5

JTAR7242
12-07-2006, 12:40 AM
Rounds up and you can see if the mag is empty or not.If you always practice keeping full magazines brass to the grass, you will still know they are loaded. By replacing empties with the followers up, you can instantly feel and visually recognize empty magazines. And so long as you keep your replacement of partials constant (up and facing one direction or another), then you can immediately know what you just inserted into your weapon.

Bohemoth
12-07-2006, 12:44 AM
As far as AR-15 magazines are concerned, originally they were made with the purpose of being disposable. That's why the standard AR-15 mags are crap and so many after-market improvement parts are offered. So, if it's empty, just drop it.

ShakesFIST
12-07-2006, 12:48 AM
As far as AR-15 magazines are concerned, originally they were made with the purpose of being disposable. That's why the standard AR-15 mags are crap and so many after-market improvement parts are offered. So, if it's empty, just drop it.

Theres so many things wrong with that statement...thats all I feel like saying :bash:

TacoDelRio
12-07-2006, 02:53 AM
As far as AR-15 magazines are concerned, originally they were made with the purpose of being disposable. That's why the standard AR-15 mags are crap and so many after-market improvement parts are offered. So, if it's empty, just drop it.

With the cheapness of the Gov't/Military, you won't get new ones.

Plus, aside from other things (Article 15's), you wouldn't want to lose them, for the enemy could use them, and could possibly rig them with explosives.

Or if you have stripper clips of ammo in your ruck/pack, but no mags...

Anyway...

11B101ABN
12-07-2006, 05:03 AM
Full mags, rounds down and facing (pointy end) toward the weapon, (depending on what hand you use), for indexing purposes. Empty mags should go into a seperate pouch, but if not, the follower should be up so it is readily apparent that the magazine is empty. (You should be able to do this without looking).

I know that this is mostly for the range and what not but bad habits are just that, bad.


Good luck.

11B101ABN
12-07-2006, 05:06 AM
As far as AR-15 magazines are concerned, originally they were made with the purpose of being disposable. That's why the standard AR-15 mags are crap and so many after-market improvement parts are offered. So, if it's empty, just drop it.


If memory serves, they are a Class 9 expendable item. That does not mean, however that they can be tossed away. Why awould you want to? The more the merrier. I carried 13, but I would still grab them up when they were available.

kayaker
12-07-2006, 06:13 AM
ref the mag up or down Q

if yo mave rounds up and you grab the mag you will have to move your hand for the magazine to go fully into the housin IIRC if you grab it by the bottom OTOH you flip it 180 and its ready to go in... or have I now completely lost it aireborne?

Dan2004
12-07-2006, 12:17 PM
I carry them rounds down in my rig. I shoot right handed, so the mags are facing rounds-right (forward if I'm wearing my ALICE). So when I go for a fresh one, I can grasp the mag firmly in my left hand with the baseplate planted in the palm, thumb down the side facing my body, remaining four fingers down the side facing out. I lift it out of the pouch, flip it 180, and insert it into the mag-well. Once I have it about an inch or an inch & a half, I start to flatten out my hand, baseplate still in my palm, and drive it home until I hear it click. At that point I move my hand away from the mag, up the side of the lower, and hit the bolt-release. Empties go in the domp-pouch on my left thigh.

So there's my method.

kayaker
12-07-2006, 12:25 PM
... good description there... The one thing I used to do after loading the rifle and listening for the two clicks is givin the mag a gentle pull just to check that it is seated correctly.

Kilo Golf
12-07-2006, 01:55 PM
dump pouch is too much movement for me, i just throw the empty ones in my shirt... also you can tell the difference between an empty mag and a full mag by the weight of it.

2/1kiwi
12-07-2006, 02:02 PM
I agree with GN rounds down and empties down your shirt or smock, depending on what type of webbing you are wearing thou

Sabre
12-07-2006, 02:05 PM
Drop your mags when your done with them.

Honestly, the taliban don't mind waiting while you reload each round from the stripper clip individually.... :roll:

Personally, mags go rounds down facing counter clockwise round my body (ie facing backwards on the left). Dan2004's method of loading a mag seems a little odd. I grasp the mag around the base, not over it, with my thumb down the rear spine. That way it's easier to control as you are placing it in the mag housing and you can quickly test it's position by giving it a tug downward. Pistol mags should be stored so that you can take them out with your index finger up the front, helping you to guide the mag into the housing.

That's the easiest way to do it. Depending on how durable your mags are you may want to store them rounds up. The old UK issue RG ones were shyte, with the mag lips routinely getting bent and damaged if stored downward.

oldsoak
12-07-2006, 02:36 PM
Rounds down to keep sh*t from getting in the mag lips when you on your belt buckle. Mags are on the left ( coz thats where my ammo pouches are ). Spare ammo in the daysack or left hand dump pouch of vest. Empties go into the right dump pouch of the vest. When theres a lull, mag up with fresh, load the one you've just taken off and then load the other empties putting them back into your empty ammo pouches.

Dan2004
12-07-2006, 02:42 PM
dump pouch is too much movement for me, i just throw the empty ones in my shirt... also you can tell the difference between an empty mag and a full mag by the weight of it.

If I've got cover, such as a rooftop parapet, and support, then I've got time for a dump pouch. Whereas if I'm out in the open or shootin' n' scootin', I just let the empties fall, because you can always get more.

Sabre
12-07-2006, 03:17 PM
If I've got cover, such as a rooftop parapet, and support, then I've got time for a dump pouch. Whereas if I'm out in the open or shootin' n' scootin', I just let the empties fall, because you can always get more.

Can you? Who's going to give you their mags? You can't tell me that you have a QM on patrol with you to give you some new mags to bomb up. Even carrying 10+ mags, you may run out of bombed up rounds and still be in contact, in which case one or more of you has to drop back and bomb up the empties for the rest of the lads.

JTAR7242
12-07-2006, 04:59 PM
dump pouch is too much movement for me, i just throw the empty ones in my shirt... also you can tell the difference between an empty mag and a full mag by the weight of it.
A valid tactic perhaps, but entirely useless with modern American body armor. Cargo pockets or dump bags are about all you're going to have as a quick option. Once you have time, back into pouches.

LaoSexMachine
12-07-2006, 05:03 PM
I always shoved it in my blouse.

Dan2004
12-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Can you? Who's going to give you their mags? You can't tell me that you have a QM on patrol with you to give you some new mags to bomb up. Even carrying 10+ mags, you may run out of bombed up rounds and still be in contact, in which case one or more of you has to drop back and bomb up the empties for the rest of the lads.

I meant after-action, but very good point. On my RACK, I have it set up so that I can carry 27 30's + a 6 mag leg rig. But that's quite heavy, so it's usually 10-12. But even at 27+, again, you can still run out and have contact. Unless you either kill them, or can somehow force a withdraw from the opfor, either thru fire superiority or by supporting elements, things can get bad quick.

11B101ABN
12-07-2006, 05:37 PM
Reloads shold be done from a position of cover, with verbal commands to alert your teammates. They will cover you or suppress during reload.

oldsoak
12-07-2006, 05:38 PM
I meant after-action, but very good point. On my RACK, I have it set up so that I can carry 27 30's + a 6 mag leg rig. But that's quite heavy, so it's usually 10-12. But even at 27+, again, you can still run out and have contact. Unless you either kill them, or can somehow force a withdraw from the opfor, either thru fire superiority or by supporting elements, things can get bad quick.

27 mags ? plus body armour, 1 smoke, 2 frag, 50 rounds of link for the MG, water, a meal, IV kit, etc ? you must be built like a brick sh*thouse. I'll take the landrover ! :-)

11B101ABN
12-07-2006, 05:43 PM
Can you? Who's going to give you their mags? You can't tell me that you have a QM on patrol with you to give you some new mags to bomb up. Even carrying 10+ mags, you may run out of bombed up rounds and still be in contact, in which case one or more of you has to drop back and bomb up the empties for the rest of the lads.

Get more from where? Are you going to leave a trail of empty mags? In the field, you need to ensure that you retain your mags. I would have issue if I had to cross level the magazines of my squad members because some young knucklehead dropped all of his mags during an engagement.

The mothership is not going to come and shi* out mags everytime you loose them.

They are expendable, but that does not give you license to sprinkle them across the countryside. Actually, as an NCO, I would probably have your a*s.

(ETA i quoted the wrong comment, it was supposed to be the one above yours, Sabre.)

Ubar
12-07-2006, 08:49 PM
rounds down, so if the feed lips fail you havent got **** going everywhere ;)

ArmyJonHall
12-07-2006, 09:05 PM
A valid tactic perhaps, but entirely useless with modern American body armor. Cargo pockets or dump bags are about all you're going to have as a quick option. Once you have time, back into pouches.
Well another option is this SORD fold-away dump pouch. (http://www.sordaustralia.com/sbc-dumppouch.htm) Fits onto one MOLLE strip and does a fantastic job. I've been using one myself for a while now, and the only negative aspect about it is once you've got 6 or 7 mags in the pouch, one or two will fall out while you're crawling in the fight through. Apart from that, it's gold.

JTAR7242
12-07-2006, 11:36 PM
That's actually a pretty cool piece of gear.

h2co32
12-08-2006, 11:09 AM
That is a neat piece of gear. I might have to get me one of those.

The only time that I ever let a mag fall onto the ground was when I was in a static position (read: tower) and knew that I could (or someone friendly if I weren't there) recover them afterwards. Other wise into my cargo pocket they went. Even though I had around 30+ extra sitting somewhere else. If you want to waste mags, then you can give them to me.

Danno
12-08-2006, 12:37 PM
That is a pretty sweet little dump pouch. Nice and out of the way until you actually need it. Thanks for posting that.

kayaker
12-08-2006, 12:56 PM
brilliant idea, they come in DPM?

ArmyJonHall
12-09-2006, 07:50 AM
Not that I know of, no, only in the colours listed on the website (http://www.sordaustralia.com/sbc-dumppouch.htm). I can't imagine it would be too hard to paint an OD one to DPM colours though.

kayaker
12-09-2006, 07:51 AM
thats true.... dont think the sgt will appreciate it if I turn up with assie cam on my assault vest...

Vendetta
12-10-2006, 03:09 AM
Yeah i use SORD dump pouch to, the dropgas pouch serves as a good dump pouch as well, in general though i use my shirt or map pockets on my vest webbing, when crawling around the bush the foldaway tends to get in the way (depends on positioning of cource)

Adam Wilhelm
12-10-2006, 09:17 AM
This one is pretty clever.

http://www.recon.se/images/Magdump1.jpg

It mounts below the magpuches and you roll it up when you don´t use it.
Comes in dark green and black.

Recon Magdump pouch (http://www.recon.se/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=342)

Beer Monster
12-14-2006, 01:27 PM
brilliant idea, they come in DPM?

Sorry bringing back an old thread but thought I'd pass on a little info.

Ryan your best bet in the UK is to get a Maxpedition Rollypoly (http://www.maxpedition.com/product/catalog_pouches.htm)(crap name but good kit). They come in 3 sizes with the medium size carrying 7 mags. They seem to pack away smaller than the other styles and also have an elastic/toggle top so you can quickly close it if you start to move .... no more mags falling out. Come in black, OD green, sand and for those across the pond they also make them in ACU colours.

Maxpedition is a US company but they used to sell them in a company called Extreme Outdoor Gear (http://www.extremeoutdoorgear.co.uk/down_for_maintenance.php?osCsid=82ae676906a8490af3710894a6a71ad3) in the UK, their website is down at the moment ..... might be worth giving them a call. They also have a shop on ebay.

If you want more info the guy at MM (http://www.militarymorons.com/misc/maxgear.html) did quite a good review (near the bottom of the page).

EDIT: Found another company called EE33 here (http://www.ee33.co.uk/product.asp?s=Xqiq6j26759&strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=628&strPageHistory=search&numSearchStartRecord=1) that sell them for £22.

kayaker
12-15-2006, 06:04 AM
cheers beer monster!
checkin it out now... MM got a lot of Gucci gear there...!

Jippo
12-15-2006, 06:34 AM
Combatkit has a similar product which is quitee excellent. I have it and my experience is solely positive.

Folds tight in roughly 6x4x2cm and is held folded by a rubber band type thing. When you pull the band it opens up and it is very big. I use it with AK mags which are a problem with most dumbpouches because of their size & shape, but this pouch is large enough to hold a quantity of them.

http://www.combatkit.net/photos/accessories/1_emp.jpg
http://www.combatkit.net/photos/accessories/2_emp.jpg

Warmly recommended.

http://www.combatkit.net/products.php?g=50&p=55


-jippo

TacoDelRio
12-15-2006, 08:59 AM
Looks like a portable cordura latrine.

James
12-15-2006, 01:16 PM
I meant after-action, but very good point. On my RACK, I have it set up so that I can carry 27 30's + a 6 mag leg rig. But that's quite heavy, so it's usually 10-12. But even at 27+, again, you can still run out and have contact. Unless you either kill them, or can somehow force a withdraw from the opfor, either thru fire superiority or by supporting elements, things can get bad quick.

33 mags. Really. :roll: Is this something you did in real life? Or are you talking about airsoft?

lt tahoe
12-15-2006, 06:51 PM
Dude... 27 mags on a RACK? How do you keep it from sagging down to your knees?

BronzeBow
12-15-2006, 08:31 PM
No-fun-one has mag caddies who run alongside.

angry cow
12-16-2006, 06:18 AM
Lol, mag-caddies . . .

Or rig an LBE to carry a midget on your back to act as a tail gunner . . .

Rounds down for me, if the ammo pouch takes mags front-rear then rounds facing outward, if side-to-side, then clockwise. Also, remove the base plate from the mag and tie a loop of 550 (para) cord (gutted and with the ends melted, of course), nice little mag pull and you dont have to cry if you loose it or it gets broken because there will always be more 550 cord and it'll always be cheap.

PS: I can't believe they make it in "Foliage Green" in stead of OD now, its just not the same. :(

And sometimes you might have to drop mags, AR-15 type weapons are designed to do that, hence why they fall out when you hit the release. But only in the most extreme situations would you really need the extra second you save by not putting the mag in a dump pouch (can't do the shirt thing with an IBA on). I'm thinking room-clearing, or bad guys within 20 meters?