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Seraphim
04-15-2004, 05:39 PM
By LOUIS MEIXLER, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A French television journalist, freed after four days in captivity in Iraq (news - web sites), said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France.



Alex Jordanov appeared shaken during an interview Thursday with The Associated Press, smoking nervously and speaking slowly as he sat in a room in a well-guarded hotel where many journalists stay.


Jordanov, 40, was freed Wednesday and taken to the French Embassy, where he collapsed from exhaustion and spent his first hours as a free man staring blankly at a ceiling.


"When you are under high pressure 24/7 for four days, everything just ... comes tumbling down," said Jordanov. He appeared to be in good health, but had small red spots on his face and hands, which he said came from sleeping outside in the brush with frogs, bugs and "all sorts of animals I've never seen crawling all around."


Jordanov, who works for Capa Television in Paris, was kidnapped Sunday while videotaping an Iraqi insurgent attack on a U.S. military convoy between Baghdad and Karbala, a city to the south.


"We got caught in a mass, mass, mass battle between the Mujahedeen and the Marines," Jordanov said. Many of the insurgents call themselves mujahedeen, or holy warriors.


During the chaos, Jordanov was separated from his cameraman, Ivan Ceriex. While Jordanov ran for cover, a car pulled up to him, four men jumped out, grabbed him and put a knife to his throat.


"They were big, strong, bearded, weightlifter guys," Jordanov said. Ceriex was also kidnapped but was released after a day.


Jordanov was shuttled between about a dozen locations, including an abandoned cement factory and a farm. Militants brought in people who spoke English and French to question him, he said.


He was occasionally slapped, but rarely physically abused, he said.


"It was more the humiliation and the fear," Jordanov said.


His captors sometimes probed him about his religious beliefs, asking him about Jesus, known in Arabic as Isa.


They asked, "Is Isa the son of God?" Jordanov recalled. Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, but not of divine birth.


"You are facing 12 Islamists. There is no room for a mistake," he said they told him.


Sometimes, militants took Jordanov out blindfolded at night, forced him to his knees and shouted at him.


"They would take you out at night and play with you," Jordanov said.


The worst moment came when the kidnappers discovered an old press card he had from Israel, where he went on reporting assignments.





The militants accused him of being an agent of the Israeli spy agency Mossad.

Militants later demanded he prove he was French by drawing a map of the country and pointing out where small towns were located.

Some insurgents are more favorable toward the French because France has refused to join the U.S.-led coalition occupying Iraq.

On Wednesday afternoon, Jordanov was brought to a Baghdad mosque.

The head of the mosque told Jordanov he was free.

"He opened the door and said, 'Go out,' but I'd been taken to so many places and told so many things that I didn't know," Jordanov said.

Jordanov walked into the courtyard and later saw the French ambassador and French police.

Herve Chabalier, president of Capa, told LCI television that negotiations with Sunni Muslim clerics led to Jordanov's release.

Jordanov's kidnapping was part of a spate of seizures of foreigners by Iraqi militants. Militants executed an Italian hostage, officials in Rome said Thursday. It was the first known killing among the nearly two dozen foreigners held in Iraq.

SeanAshi
04-15-2004, 05:56 PM
said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France.
Paranoid arabs believe everyone is an Israeli spy-mossad shin bet, :roll:

MaDuce
04-15-2004, 06:08 PM
said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France.
Paranoid arabs believe everyone is an Israeli spy-mossad shin bet, :roll:
Yes they are afraid of getting
http://home.houston.rr.com/gopha1/other/sharowned.jpg

SeanAshi
04-15-2004, 06:14 PM
:lol: I like that

Uncle Sam
04-15-2004, 06:16 PM
said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France.

Maybe they should've asked him to draw a white flag instead...

Seraphim
04-15-2004, 06:19 PM
said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France.

Maybe they should've asked him to draw a white flag instead...


rofl now now...non of that.

Uncle Sam
04-15-2004, 06:34 PM
I was just kidding... :lol:

California Joe
04-15-2004, 06:36 PM
Oooooooooh 4 days sleeping outside. Sounds like a serious polesmoker.

Beowulf
04-15-2004, 06:38 PM
Oooooooooh 4 days sleeping outside. Sounds like a serious polesmoker.
nice one. ;)

SeanAshi
04-15-2004, 06:44 PM
How inhumane, no a/c

Rantanplan
04-15-2004, 06:46 PM
A French television journalist, freed after four days in captivity in Iraq (news - web sites), said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France

Idiotic

Thats like asking an american to name all american presidents or asking a german with wich countrys germany had wars in the last century.

wyrm_142
04-15-2004, 06:51 PM
So - since I can draw a map of France, I could plea that I'm not a evil American (should I get a contractor slot in b-dad, and get kidnapped from the vault I'd be working in)? :lol:

How many cities do they want on the map? Historical battle areas? Towns where treaties were signed?

Is a French acent required?

Seraphim
04-15-2004, 06:53 PM
A French television journalist, freed after four days in captivity in Iraq (news - web sites), said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France

Idiotic

Thats like asking an american to name all american presidents or asking a german with wich countrys germany had wars in the last century.

Well its much harder to name all the presidents than to draw a flag.

Nizark
04-15-2004, 06:53 PM
Sharowned...thats fockin funny haahahahah

SeanAshi
04-15-2004, 06:54 PM
versie!

Rantanplan
04-15-2004, 07:03 PM
A French television journalist, freed after four days in captivity in Iraq (news - web sites), said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France

Idiotic

Thats like asking an american to name all american presidents or asking a german with wich countrys germany had wars in the last century.

Well its much harder to name all the presidents than to draw a flag.

......"drawing a map"........

Abolith
04-15-2004, 07:03 PM
at least he was released alive, unlike the Italian...may he RIP

Seraphim
04-15-2004, 07:06 PM
A French television journalist, freed after four days in captivity in Iraq (news - web sites), said he was repeatedly interrogated by captors who accused him of being an Israeli spy and made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France

Idiotic

Thats like asking an american to name all american presidents or asking a german with wich countrys germany had wars in the last century.

Well its much harder to name all the presidents than to draw a flag.


Oh right, Uncle Sam's message got me thinking flag instead. I stand by that drawing a MAP is easier :D

......"drawing a map"........

talib_killa34
04-15-2004, 07:55 PM
made him prove his nationality by drawing a map of France.


Omigod... :lol: :roll:

talib_killa34
04-15-2004, 08:33 PM
Jordanov, who works for Capa Television in Paris, was kidnapped Sunday while videotaping an Iraqi insurgent attack on a U.S. military convoy between Baghdad and Karbala, a city to the south.


Seems the press need to get themselves more involved in this war instead of just "being objective"

Poor guy coulda used a AK and a platoon of marines to help him out.

:|

Seraphim
04-15-2004, 08:59 PM
Jordanov, who works for Capa Television in Paris, was kidnapped Sunday while videotaping an Iraqi insurgent attack on a U.S. military convoy between Baghdad and Karbala, a city to the south.


Seems the press need to get themselves more involved in this war instead of just "being objective"

Poor guy coulda used a AK and a platoon of marines to help him out.

:|


That would have been the dumbest thing he could have done. It would endanger reporters across the world.

talib_killa34
04-15-2004, 09:11 PM
That would have been the dumbest thing he could have done. It would endanger reporters across the world.

They are ALL already in danger everytime they go to places like Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, Liberia et al.

If he wants to go without a fight, then by all means...

usa320
04-15-2004, 11:19 PM
Id sure as hell god down fighting, because i much rather get shot or go free, then die by being cut to shreads with a knife.

:|


abandoned cement factory

How many abandoned Cement factories could be in Fallujah?

They oughta level the place with a GBU.




asking a german with wich countrys germany had wars in the last century.

rofl

Sleeping outside for 4 days? Thats nothing compared to what the other prisoners faced. The threat of being burned alive and all...

Haiw
04-16-2004, 01:03 PM
Id sure as hell god down fighting, because i much rather get shot or go free, then die by being cut to shreads with a knife.

:|


abandoned cement factory

How many abandoned Cement factories could be in Fallujah?

They oughta level the place with a GBU.




asking a german with wich countrys germany had wars in the last century.

rofl

Sleeping outside for 4 days? Thats nothing compared to what the other prisoners faced. The threat of being burned alive and all...
And how exactely would you plan to go down fighting as a television journalist? Shoot them to pieces with your zoomlens?

usa320
04-16-2004, 01:06 PM
Youd be surprised what a person is capable of doing with a rush of adrenaline, the right timing and any blunt object.

Even if they shot me, it be better than giving them the satisfaction of humiliating me or killing me in a more painful way.

Haiw
04-16-2004, 02:20 PM
Do you have any idea how rediculous that sounds when you say it from the safety of an armchair? Everyone's always so quick to say they'd 'fight to the death' while on a forum... :roll: Sign the dotted line and give us your name so you can prove it in the papers.

Maj C
04-16-2004, 02:47 PM
it's funny because most self-defense types say you've got to fight it out right away because chances of escape are slim later...there must be some kind of psychological reason why people don't resist - especially when murdered - I think they're in shock that they're actually going to be killed. like those poor russian soldiers the chechens killed or the iraqi's blown up with c4 etc. same thing watching films of people being shot by einsatzgruppen...they're like sheep. weird...