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dj_1911
12-06-2006, 08:30 PM
The founder of the Middle East program at Jimmy Carter’s Carter Center has resigned in disgust (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/06/D8LRJ7A00.html) at the former president’s anti-Israel, pro-Hamas book.
A longtime aide to Jimmy Carter (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22Jimmy+Carter%22&sid=breitbart.com) has resigned from the Carter Center (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22Carter+Center%22&sid=breitbart.com) think tank, calling the former president's new book on Israel and the Arabs one-sided and filled with errors. Kenneth Stein, the Carter Center's first executive director and founder of its Middle East (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22Middle+East%22&sid=breitbart.com) program, sent a letter that bluntly criticized the book to Carter and others.
Stein (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=stein&sid=breitbart.com) wrote that the book, "Palestine: Peace, Not Apartheid," was replete with factual errors, material copied from other sources and "simply invented segments," according to an excerpt of the letter published by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Deanna Congileo, Carter's spokeswoman, said the former president stands by the book.
Stein, who is also director of the Institute for the Study of Modern Israel at Emory University, did not immediately return a call Wednesday.
Carter issued a brief statement saying that Stein had not been actively involved with the center for more than 12 years and was not involved with the new book. Carter did not directly address Stein's allegations.
It is not the first time Carter and Stein have disagreed over Middle East policy, said Douglas Brinkley (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22Douglas+Brinkley%22&sid=breitbart.com), a professor of history at Tulane University (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=%22Tulane+University%22&sid=breitbart.com) and the author of the 1988 Carter biography, "The Unfinished Presidency."
"They've never been on the same page in the Middle East. They've been in an almost constant state of disagreement," Brinkley said. Stein "doesn't trust the Palestinians as much as Carter."
Brinkley said he has read Carter's new book but would not address Stein's accusations.
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gaijinsamurai
12-06-2006, 09:49 PM
Well, it says Stien hasn't been involved with the Carter Center for 12 years anyways, so what's the big deal? He probably just chose the occasion to make a point over a disagreement he had with Carter over the Middle East. And Carter definitely isn't "anti-Israel".
Hollis
12-06-2006, 09:58 PM
Well, it says Stien hasn't been involved with the Carter Center for 12 years anyways, so what's the big deal? He probably just chose the occasion to make a point over a disagreement he had with Carter over the Middle East. And Carter definitely isn't "anti-Israel".
I don't know about that, I have the book, you can read it, even the cover is anti-Israeli propaganda. IMHO, Carter lost it. Or. Trying to regain something he never had.
fantomas
12-06-2006, 10:08 PM
And Carter definitely isn't "anti-Israel".
lol sure. the title of his book is "peace not APARTHEID"
...yeah.
Paul in Saudi2
12-06-2006, 11:43 PM
He was not talking about Israel. He was talking about Israeli behavior in Palestine. The title of the book is 'Palestine Peace, not Apartheid.'
Don't you see people? Calling for an end to apartheid is racist. Isn't that obvious? Only a complete racist would object to the Israelis having their own underclass. The Bible allows slavery .... and on an on and on ....
Danik
12-07-2006, 01:12 AM
He was not talking about Israel. He was talking about Israeli behavior in Palestine. The title of the book is 'Palestine Peace, not Apartheid.'
Don't you see people? Calling for an end to apartheid is racist. Isn't that obvious? Only a complete racist would object to the Israelis having their own underclass. The Bible allows slavery .... and on an on and on ....
Sounds like you are describing saudia arabia.
When you make up "facts", disregard history and such, you know, stop using logic, all for the sake of either A. making money or B. Because you are insane. You get to fall into the History revisionist section, where your books are sold to history departments at univesities, who in turn get to teach their students about how NOT to conduct research. He will be in the same boat as Gavin Menzies 1421 The Year China Discovered America, and Frances Woods Did Marco Polo go to China. Shiity thesis+fairytale facts=mainstream success and excelent history class examples of terrible research.
sir-chimp
12-07-2006, 01:58 AM
The problem with Carter is its hard to tell where the bulls_hit ends and the dementia begins.
Paul in Saudi2
12-07-2006, 02:10 AM
Sounds like you are describing saudia arabia.
When you make up "facts", disregard history and such, you know, stop using logic, all for the sake of either A. making money or B. Because you are insane. You get to fall into the History revisionist section, where your books are sold to history departments at univesities, who in turn get to teach their students about how NOT to conduct research. He will be in the same boat as Gavin Menzies 1421 The Year China Discovered America, and Frances Woods Did Marco Polo go to China. Shiity thesis+fairytale facts=mainstream success and excelent history class examples of terrible research.
I am making up facts? Which one? Please illuminate us all. The title of the book is not 'Palestine Peace not Apartheid?'
Danik
12-07-2006, 03:06 AM
I am making up facts? Which one? Please illuminate us all. The title of the book is not 'Palestine Peace not Apartheid?'
The book is full of "facts", you have not made up anything, I am calling carter a revisionist. Saying thing such as "palastinians have accepted 100% and the Israelis have rejected entirely"-carter on the ME road map.
Paul in Saudi2
12-07-2006, 04:49 AM
You read the book? How was it?
gaijinsamurai
12-07-2006, 08:48 AM
In all fairness, I have yet to read the book. Don't know if I will.
Given the intransegence of Hamas, I understand the Israeli Government's reluctance to go forward with "the road map", and in the last few years, the Palestinians have done a lot to erode the sympathy I once had for them. However, one can easily see how, if things continue with settlement growth in the West Bank, lack of education and job opportunities for Palestinians, and the disparity in wealth and social services between the two groups, that an "aparthied-like" situation will almost certainly exist, especially in the West Bank. Of course, it has to also be mentioned that the Palestinians themselves have made choices that have brought about the situation we have today.
Paul in Saudi2
12-07-2006, 11:53 AM
Well to be fair we ought to read the book. Jimmy is a Smart Cookie and so I give him some benefit of the doubt.
Of course the problem over here is that the situation gives a veto to the stupidest person on each side. Bonehead Israelis (and Holy Roller Christians) versus Shinola-for-Brains Palestinians (and their idiot Arab brothers). There are lots of clever lads who could solve this in an afternoon of pinochle, but the dummies have the guns.
sir-chimp
12-07-2006, 11:55 AM
You mean Carter is Smart AS a cookie
Chocolate Chunk cookie to be exact.
Mr. JOSHUA
12-07-2006, 12:15 PM
Smart Cookie?
The only smarts he has is the way he spins his hate and disdain for Israel.
Paul in Saudi2
12-07-2006, 01:00 PM
Could you please cite his hatred of Israel? I am always interested in learning new things. He made peace between Israel and Egypt. How many thousands of Israelis did he save?
Could you please cite his hatred of Israel? I am always interested in learning new things. He made peace between Israel and Egypt. How many thousands of Israelis did he save?
I think you mean he caved in to Egypt's blackmail. We're still paying them billions every year.
Geezah
12-07-2006, 01:12 PM
Well to be fair we ought to read the book. Jimmy is a Smart Cookie and so I give him some benefit of the doubt.
Cookie Monster????
http://www.timandjeni.com/images/cookiemonster.jpg
or as smart as his brother Billy?????
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/2d/280px-Billybeer.jpg
The guy needs to stop hugging the disco ball and fade away into the abiss called 'we could care less about you'.
Mr. JOSHUA
12-07-2006, 01:30 PM
So I guess any Jew can walk around openly in Egypt, pray where he wants to in Egypt.
Thats not peace, thats called a Jimmy-Rig.
Just like he, Clinton and Albright Jimmy-Rigged the situation in North Korea during Clintons terms.
Jimmy Carter has not brought peace to any nation, he has only conceded things in return for nothing more than more shakedowns.
He's like the guy who goes to the car dealership thinking he's gonna get the best of the salesman and that he's gonna get his way and his deal only for salesman turn it around and get his deal.
Paul in Saudi2
12-07-2006, 10:32 PM
I think you mean he caved in to Egypt's blackmail. We're still paying them billions every year.
Yes we pay them some proportion of the amount we give to Israel. Are the Israelis blackmailing us? Just wondering. It is OK to pay off one, but not the other.
We pay one and they stop fighting. We pay the other and they pretty well what they wanted to do anyway.
Oh well, Carter stopped the wars. You don't have the decency and common-sense to realize that.
He didn't make peace. He just made sure the war would continue to be waged with no clear winner and thus no end in sight. Only it's not fought by the Egyptian army, Syrian army, or other state entity, it's fought by the Hezbollahs and Hamases. The Arab states (and Iran) arm them, fund them, train them and use them as proxies with which to continue their war against Israel.
Paul in Saudi2
12-07-2006, 11:19 PM
You're so right. It was much better before. Jimmy was a fool for getting the Egyptians to stop making war with the Israelis. Only an anti-Semite would have brokered a peace treaty between Israel and the largest (population) Arab country.
The fact the Arab states have all recognized Israel's right to exist is all the proof you need.
Mr.Flint
12-08-2006, 12:22 AM
You're so right. It was much better before. Jimmy was a fool for getting the Egyptians to stop making war with the Israelis. Only an anti-Semite would have brokered a peace treaty between Israel and the largest (population) Arab country.
The fact the Arab states have all recognized Israel's right to exist is all the proof you need.
Ehem,
They didnt... only Egypt and Jordan did so... Mauritania too i think...
Paul in Saudi2
12-08-2006, 01:02 AM
Nope. The Arab League accepted Israel's right to exist within secure and recognized borders with no 'no' votes a couple of four years ago. It was called the King Abdullah Plan.
Cite? Certainly, here is the complete text since you seem to have missed in the papers:
http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/fact-book/documents/2006/060609-arab-peace-plan.html
Mr.Flint
12-08-2006, 01:17 AM
Nope. The Arab League accepted Israel's right to exist within secure and recognized borders with no 'no' votes a couple of four years ago. It was called the King Abdullah Plan.
Cite? Certainly, here is the complete text since you seem to have missed in the papers:
http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/fact-book/documents/2006/060609-arab-peace-plan.html
Ehem, im sorry to break it on you, but its clearly states that it will accept Israel's right to exist only if.
Paul in Saudi2
12-08-2006, 03:36 AM
Yes, if they stop administering the areas not annexed.
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