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SMGLee
12-07-2006, 02:31 PM
I kind of prefer to call my conversion the SL36CQB...a hybird of a SL8 with G36 conversion in the G36CQB format

For some of our international brothers, the original HK SL8 was a butchered so much that is did not have any resemble of the gun it was developed for. it was a huge process that took over a very longish 4 years to complete.

This is my chronical of the sega.

This first few pictures show case the entire SL8 to G36 conversion. So you can see the progression from what it used to be to this latest upgrade.

Just arrived from the gun shop
http://www.cltactical.com/images/G36howto/SL8-1.jpg

Mid life upgrade: with SW parts
http://www.cltactical.com/images/G36howto/SL36-3.jpg
Notice the longer LOP with the SW stock conversion.

This is the remedy with a fused stock where a member of HKPro took the SW conversion stock and cut it in half and fused it back together to eliminate the folding feature but shorten the overall LOP and made it closer to the actual G36 profile.
http://www.cltactical.com/images/G36howto/CLT-022.jpg

Finally with SL36CQB using the TBostic Gen2 conversion block
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-004.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-002.jpg

Compare to the factory G36CQG
http://www.cltactical.com/images/G36howto/G36CQB.jpg

A few items of interest. I had a tier 1 defense industry machinist do the work on this conversion. He measured and measured to make sure everything will fit nice and tight. The only problem we ran into is the factory HK sling swivel pin which is a tad bit too short. The TBostic Gen 2 block is thicker to cover the receiver and it has an reinforced ear surrounding the hole for more strength. My machinist took about 1/100th off on both side on the reinforce ear and also a bit off the collar on the sling swivel pin to make the whole thing come together. The pin is super tight inside the receiver with the conversion block, I guess he could have made it a bit looser, but he figure it will loosen up in time.

This job actually took him about 2 hours to do since he was quit careful and did everything to as close of a tolerance as possible. I think this could be completed within an hour on a DIY. The biggest time consumption process was machining the reinforced ears and pin collar and also the actual cut of the receiver. He had to find spacers to secure the receiver in his mill and that took some time to get everything line up perfectly and the cut is uniformed on both side to 1000th of an inch.

The over all set up…

HK SL8---1500.00
Dye----DIY, cost of four bottle of Rite Dye from K-mart and some gas bill from boiling the water
G36CQB barrel conversion by LarryG36---150.00
G3 flash hider
KAC flip up front sight
KAC long rail with flip up 600m rear sight
KAC G36 rifle RAS
Surefire M961XM
TangoDown vertical grip
Cav Arms Rail ladder---Left over stock
G36C stock from Center Mass----100.00
G36 SEF trigger housing from HKPro member---100.00
EOTech 552
T-Bostic Gen 2 block----320.00

SW M16 mag conversion, SW stock conversion x 2 are some of the left over parts from previous conversion. I think I recover some of it by selling them on line but I probably lost close to 450.00

Total invested-----$2620.00 minus the cost of the KAC, Surefire and EOTech gear.

Stock folded view
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-008.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-005.jpg

Stock folded view from ejection port side, I will find out if the brass can be ejected with the stock closed, not that I would shoot the gun this way, but inquiry mind wants to know.

A closer view of the stock closed. Note the KAC 600m rear sight, with the TBostic block surrounding the receiver, the sight is elevated a bit. It actually made activating the rear sight that much faster.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-010.jpg

A better view of the Gen2 block with the stock open.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-011.jpg

A top view of the block. A small allen screw is all that is holding the block on the top.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-012.jpg

Bottom view of the block vs. the trigger housing interface.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-013.jpg

Stock folded, you can see the large allen screw that is securing the block to the trigger housing block that is lock into the trigger housing via the take down pin.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-014.jpg

top view of the stock folded
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-016.jpg

Business end of the gun I call----SL36
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-017.jpg

G36CQB profile barrel with G3 flash hider.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/G36-018.jpg

with in the Kit, Tom also included a larger dia. pin to replace the sear pin in your G36 trigger group. a polymer plate that can be epoxy on to the opening on the side of the mag well, and also a small tab that can be tapped and secure on to the bolt held open device to make it functional. I will most likely epoxy the mag well plate into the gun but will forgo the bolt held open device.

Tom Bostic was a pleasure to work with and he kept me updated on the progress of the development. It was a true pleasure to work with a gentleman such as Tom and a big hoorah for taking up this task. A big thank you for a job well done.

Dan2004
12-07-2006, 02:46 PM
Jeebus!

That is the most awesome custom job that I have ever seen, ever!

Hooah!

Dan

ZoneOne
12-07-2006, 02:50 PM
Any way to make it a little bit shorter? With out it having to be a SBR?

I like it alot, don't get my wrong, but it seems very...um... long :-)

and the floating Eotech just looks weird IMO.

But nice work, a couple of years back I almost purchased an SL8 after firing it at a range but then I realized I can't be spending any more money.

Irish_11
12-07-2006, 03:06 PM
Thats some great work. What barrel did you end up using? I like it, its got a smooth look to it

Createdeemcee
12-07-2006, 03:12 PM
Lee I must say you are weapon building wonder. Glad to see that you went with the low level scope mount.

silveykyle
12-07-2006, 04:14 PM
wow, very nice indeed

Ghostryder
12-07-2006, 05:36 PM
How does it feel compared to an m4?

Geezah
12-07-2006, 05:57 PM
Great pics, thanks:)

11B101ABN
12-07-2006, 05:57 PM
Lokks very good, but a little fron heavy ans awkward. I have never liked the G36's fixed LOP.

Nice stick though.

StukaJr
12-07-2006, 06:09 PM
I'm proud to know you - if I didn't live in Komiefornia, I would be your client :D

JVeld
12-07-2006, 09:32 PM
Wow....thats a great conversion, awesome looking rifle man !

BillySing
12-07-2006, 09:38 PM
Suweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-D

Best. Post. Ever.

Let us know what groups it shoots.

SMGLee
12-07-2006, 10:39 PM
Wow....thats a great conversion, awesome looking rifle man !


wow, very nice indeed


Jeebus!

That is the most awesome custom job that I have ever seen, ever!

Hooah!

Dan


thank you guys for the good word... it took me 4 years.. but it was worth it.

SMGLee
12-07-2006, 10:41 PM
Any way to make it a little bit shorter? With out it having to be a SBR?

I like it alot, don't get my wrong, but it seems very...um... long :-)

and the floating Eotech just looks weird IMO.

But nice work, a couple of years back I almost purchased an SL8 after firing it at a range but then I realized I can't be spending any more money.

Not sure how i could have done that, G36 itself is a longish gun to start with. I will post some side by side comparison with few other firearms for giggles.

The EOTech and KAC mount are a god send, EOTech is quick for out to 50yrds and the open space on the KAC mount made for a quick access to the otherwise hidden charging handle.

SMGLee
12-07-2006, 10:42 PM
Thats some great work. What barrel did you end up using? I like it, its got a smooth look to it

I use a factory SL8 match barrel that Larry Reimer at AREA51 guns turn down and resurfaced for me. I selected the 15.5 inch G36CQB profile since i did not have to mess with the gas block.

SMGLee
12-07-2006, 10:43 PM
How does it feel compared to an m4?


I still like my LMT MRP....:)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/dirt-001.jpg

SMGLee
12-07-2006, 10:44 PM
I'm proud to know you - if I didn't live in Komiefornia, I would be your client :D

you can buy me a drink tonight.. :)

StukaJr
12-07-2006, 10:57 PM
you can buy me a drink tonight.. :)

You know it! Speaking of which... why am I still in the office? :)

goat89
12-08-2006, 01:42 AM
Oh god... that is sexy... damn!

Laworkerbee
12-08-2006, 04:49 AM
Lee it was a pleasure drinking with you tonight I had to check this thread out while I was still intoxicated after listening to you describe the work done.

OUT****INGSTANDING LEE!!

Sorry I mean't Mr. Chen p-)

TacoDelRio
12-08-2006, 05:05 AM
Good stuff... great looking rifle.

It needs to attend our next shoot. :)

AK74
12-08-2006, 05:21 AM
that is one nice looking piece of hardware !!

SMGLee
12-08-2006, 05:36 AM
while I was still intoxicated

Intoxicated? After only three tumbler glasses full of Johnny Walker Black??

Loke
12-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Awsome conversion!
Does the TBostic Gen2 stock require cutting the rear "tangs" of the reciever?

Durandal
12-08-2006, 08:52 AM
Are you having any failures to cycle? Just curious.

Whisper_44
12-08-2006, 10:03 AM
Chen, I remember when you started this project.. has it really been 4 years? Time flies my friend... NICE WORK.. To Durandal's question? How does it shoot?

Laworkerbee
12-08-2006, 07:40 PM
Intoxicated? After only three tumbler glasses full of Johnny Walker Black??

You count 3?

You kept pouring other glasses! and next time be a gentleman and let me buy a damned round or food or something goddamnit

Good times my man, we should turn it into a regular thing :)

SMGLee
12-08-2006, 07:50 PM
Are you having any failures to cycle? Just curious.


No failure at the range today, total about 150 rds. the conversion seem solid.

the accuracy are decent for a poor Chinaman. I shot 20rds Georgia Canned Heat, and it all landed within a 2 inch circle target. its combat ready...:)

StukaJr
12-09-2006, 06:07 PM
Pizza had me more intoxicated than the booze - that was one crazy pie, even if my idea of the pizza usually requires 2" deep dough...

I need the "all potential dates names" soon - I think they'll be the wiser to the cryptic date names...

Looking towards checking out the build next Sat... Woot! :D

TacoDelRio
12-09-2006, 06:08 PM
I'll join up with you guys. I'm getting a truck soon.

SMGLee
12-10-2006, 06:44 AM
A comparison picture with LMT MRP with 14.5 inch barrel and a Vortex G6a2 flash hider, Crane SOPMOD stock, AK74 with Tantal barrel and muzzle brake and AK74S folding stock, and a Steyr AUG A2
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/SCAR-021.jpg

A few picture of the SL36 in action.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/SCAR-013.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/SCAR-019.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/cltactical/huge/SCAR-017.jpg

Durandal
12-10-2006, 10:21 AM
That looks real nice Chen...really nice.

amazing kg3
12-10-2006, 12:33 PM
you need an A3 system for the AUG! that is a beauty of a G36

Freibier
12-10-2006, 01:11 PM
Wow, that's the nicest SL8 conversion I've ever seen!

Vandervahn
12-10-2006, 04:29 PM
Too "tacticalish" for my liking.

RomanS
12-10-2006, 04:54 PM
Be-au-ti-fulllll !

Macs.
12-10-2006, 05:05 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/image.php?u=2161&dateline=1163001510&type=profile

p-)

East Scout
12-10-2006, 06:56 PM
very very nice.and it works!

TacoDelRio
12-11-2006, 02:38 AM
Looks like Burro Canyon there Chen....

Laworkerbee
12-11-2006, 01:31 PM
What a fantastic conversion.

JVeld
12-11-2006, 01:36 PM
Thats it !!!!............Im officially inlove with your SL36 man !!!

SMGLee
12-12-2006, 03:23 PM
I will post pictures later this weekend after a training class using this gun.. also a break down of components.

Createdeemcee
12-13-2006, 02:41 PM
Too "tacticalish" for my liking.


Thats a g36 for ya! its missinag a few things the original has but you gotta admit shes one sweet weapon.


I will post pictures later this weekend after a training class using this gun.. also a break down of components.


Sounds good chen, How does she shoot?

Createdeemcee
12-13-2006, 02:50 PM
you need an A3 system for the AUG! that is a beauty of a G36


A few grand in rifles is fair enough. An AUG civ version runs about 3500.00 bucky's. Chen I know youre in CA. Are you law enforcement or a lucky Civ.

Vandervahn
12-13-2006, 04:43 PM
Thats a g36 for ya! its missinag a few things the original has but you gotta admit shes one sweet weapon.

Actually thats my point.

Its got too much stuff hanging off the sides, my personal preference is the "clear" appearance of the vanilla G36. Then again, I might be the only one who doesnt like what they are doing to the cars in "Pimp my Ride" ;)