European Socialists eager to work with U.S. Democrats

[Geezah]

European Socialists promised on Thursday to work to rebuild Europe's strategic alliance with the United States now that the Democrats control Congress after last month's elections.

Socialist leaders attending a meeting of the European Socialist Party pledged that with the Democrats on the rise, strong ties could be renewed with the United States after years of cool relations with Republican President George W. Bush.

Howard Dean, chairman of the national committee of the U.S. Democratic Party, is attending the two-day conference together with the leaders of leftist governments of several countries and party leaders from across Europe.

"We are not anti-American, we want the real America, your America," former Danish Prime Minister Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, president of the European Socialist Party, said in remarks directed at Dean.

The Democrats gained control of both houses of Congress for the first time since 1994 in the mid-term elections, reshaping the political landscape ahead of the 2008 presidential race.

"Europe needs an America that is back on track," said Portuguese Socialist Prime Minister Jose Socrates, whose country is hosting the meeting.

"We need, today more than ever, to reinforce and renew the strategic alliance between the United States and Europe," Socrates said. "We know that a stronger Democratic Party is key for this to happen."

Socialists, or centre-left governments, currently hold or share power in just over half of Europe.

Many European governments, not just Socialist ones, have above all been angered by Bush's war in Iraq and what has been seen as the U.S. failure to work with allies in international affairs.

They expressed hopes after last month's election for a new era of open dialogue on a more equal footing with Washington and the Bush administration during the final two years of his presidency.

Socrates said Dean's Democrats "should know that they can count on European Socialists" for support.

Link (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-12-07T204342Z_01_L0796336_RTRUKOC_0_US-EUROPE-SOCIALISTS-US.xml&src=rss&rpc=22)

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[Ezekiel25:17]

If they think US Democrats=Socialist? HAhahahahahahahahaha

[buttchowder]

Wait, now that the Dems control Congress, Europe wants to help in Iraq? Great!


Oh wait this doesn't mean sh*t.

[Macs.]

Wait, now that the Dems control Congress, Europe wants to help in Iraq? Great!


Oh wait this doesn't mean sh*t.

Thank god it doesn't mean ****. :)

[phoilme]

I do believe American democrats are socialists - LOOK AT THEIR FRICK"N POLICIES! How is that any different that uhm, eah - SOCIALISM!?!? Just sit back relax and be prepared to get up and get in line. Enjoy MP.Net too - while you have it. Pro conservatisim and individualism posts won't go in "utopia." Now, let's reflect on past socialistic governments and the joy the great unwashed enjoyed under them. I think the biggest point will be no more wars. War a thing of the past! Thanks COMMIES!

[phoilme]

P. S.
For you meatheads, do I need to list the socialistic tendencies our beloved Democrat party has already displayed? Seems like socialism to me. Just say "yeah!" and I'll start to list.

[Loki77]

AMERICANS WAKE UP
Europen Socialists are trash!!!!!!

[dangerclose]

The democrats met with the communist Sandinistas and now with the terrorist Hamas organization. Why wouldn't they stoop even lower and meet with European Socialists?

[dangerclose]

Thanks COMMIES!


"I have seen the future and it works."



100 million dead people can't be wrong.

[HOLLiS]

European Socialist Five year plan, will destory the most healthiest of economies.

[Firetxmi]

Chicken little, is that you?

[Lord Impaler]

Great idea, Dean: associate your party with groups that have crippled their own countries' growth with high-taxes, bloated bureaucracy, and inefficient and wasteful policies.

And I love the reaction of these Europeans; they have no idea that the election was more of a slap at Republican lethargy and corrupt Congressmen than any endorsement of Dean and his cohorts.

[Henry's Fork]

AMERICANS WAKE UP
Europen Socialists are trash!!!!!!

LOL

Well i for one have a great time hanging out with Europes Socialites when i pay the old country a visit.

[exarmyguard]

Those trash know how to party. I am hangin with them.

[muttbutt]

I do believe American democrats are socialists - LOOK AT THEIR FRICK"N POLICIES! How is that any different that uhm, eah - SOCIALISM!?!? Just sit back relax and be prepared to get up and get in line. Enjoy MP.Net too - while you have it. Pro conservatisim and individualism posts won't go in "utopia." Now, let's reflect on past socialistic governments and the joy the great unwashed enjoyed under them. I think the biggest point will be no more wars. War a thing of the past! Thanks COMMIES!
you can't tell the difference between Communisim and European centerist socialism?....yes those gulags are coming along nicely, BTW the US's great pal Tony Blair is a "socialist"p-) he runs the Labour party.

[Paul in Saudi2]

Good point. The Democrats are Communists! Communists I say! Look at their policies!

-Medicare Drug Benefits!
-Secret Police reading our E-mail!
-Torture chambers!
-Economic policies that are selling American stuff to Foreigners!

It is all in Das Kapital I'm telling ya! It's in the Bible! Cats sleeping with dogs! It's the End Times!

[EsoognomEhT]

Its amusing to see that the cold war "reds under the bed" mentality is still very much alive and well

[Paul in Saudi2]

I cannot believe anyone could really believe this stuff and be able to type. I presume they are trolls of the amusing sort.

[elguapo]

we want the real America, your America," former Danish Prime Minister Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, president of the European Socialist Party, said in remarks directed at Dean.

Whatever that means, coming out of a socialist's mouth, has to be funny.


rofl rofl rofl rofl

[Paul in Saudi2]

I suppose he means the America that opposed torture. The one that was confident and won the victories over Communism and Fascism. The one that stood for free trade. Ronald Reagan's America.

[szr]

I suppose he means the America that opposed torture. The one that was confident and won the victories over Communism and Fascism. The one that stood for free trade. Ronald Reagan's America.
Free trade? And you're going to find that with the Democrats? LOL


Anyway, over the last couple of years, I've gotten quite comfortable with going it alone. The European Socialists should take their own car if they insist on tagging along.

[Paul in Saudi2]

No, I am not, I have never been a Democrat.

So you are one of those hide-behind-the-wall, please-don't-hurt-me types? I can understand that. The world is a scary place. Just get behind me, miss. I will protect you.

[szr]

Your posts just keep on making more and more sense. haha

At your current rate of decent, you'll be landing next to Frank Chu (http://12galaxies.20m.com/) before nightfall.

[Ratamacue]

I suppose he means the America that opposed torture. The one that was confident and won the victories over Communism and Fascism. The one that stood for free trade. Ronald Reagan's America.Give me a break. If you think that the US government and military has only used torture under the Bush administration, you're quite hilariously naive. The only difference in interrogation methods under Bush is that they haven't kept it quiet and under wraps.

[Paul in Saudi2]

Cite? Beside the Voices in your Head, I mean.

[Ordie]

Its the 'Red Rose' coalition. Britians Labor and France's Socialist are a part of it.

European Socialists are considered the equivilant to the Democratic Party. (sorta Center Left.)

Keep in mind that European nations operate within a parlamentary form of government. Meaning that the party or a coalition of parties that wins the majority of seats, governs the country. If the United States were a parlamentary system, the president would be a figurehead and the Speaker of the House would be the Prime Minister.

This is why political party affiliation are stronger in Europe.

[Laworkerbee]

Its amusing to see that the cold war "reds under the bed" mentality is still very much alive and well

Bless them

I miss the good ole days Red Vs Blue

[Friendly Fire]

If they think US Democrats=Socialist? HAhahahahahahahahaha


Well if you think Euro Socialists = Soviet Socialists...

In europe Socialism is a convenient term for Vaseline!

HO HO HO HO HO HO! Is MoFo compulsory?

[Friendly Fire]

I suppose he means the America that opposed torture. The one that was confident and won the victories over Communism and Fascism. The one that stood for free trade. Ronald Reagan's America.


Hum news to you...you can't win a war against a doxa/ideology! That's your's man!

[Friendly Fire]

"I have seen the future and it works."



100 million dead people can't be wrong.

Body count heh...rofl

[Loki77]

Euro Socialists=Lazy
Euro Socialists=High Tax
Euro Socialists=Totalitarism
Euro Socialists=Trash

[Atlantic Friend]

P. S.
For you meatheads, do I need to list the socialistic tendencies our beloved Democrat party has already displayed? Seems like socialism to me. Just say "yeah!" and I'll start to list.

a-hem ! <clears voice>

"YEAH !"

<waits for list>

[oldsoak]

Looks like the European Socialists are going to be disappointed.

[kosse]

Its the 'Red Rose' coalition. Britians Labor and France's Socialist are a part of it.

European Socialists are considered the equivilant to the Democratic Party. (sorta Center Left.)

Keep in mind that European nations operate within a parlamentary form of government. Meaning that the party or a coalition of parties that wins the majority of seats, governs the country. If the United States were a parlamentary system, the president would be a figurehead and the Speaker of the House would be the Prime Minister.

This is why political party affiliation are stronger in Europe.

Finally a reply that makes some sense. It is amusing to see the hatred towards European moderate socialist parties while at the same time Bush's US and socialist-led Blair's GB are the best of friends (and Blair being a member of the PES).

Even here in Finland the party (SDP) that is a member of PES can quite comfortably form a government with a right wing party (and it's been like that as long as I can remember..there are 1 big socialist and 1 right-wing party in government and things still get done). Hell, it's hard to tell the difference between today's "socialist" parties and centre right parties.

All in all, it seems that socialist has a bit different meaning in US than it has in Europe.

[Atlantic Friend]

All in all, it seems that socialist has a bit different meaning in US than it has in Europe.

And as it had in the Soviet Union, much to the despair of Soviet leaders then.

[Friendly Fire]

a-hem ! <clears voice>

"YEAH !"

<waits for list>

What's that Lebel doeing around your paws?p-)

Edit: Well socialism was a taboo in Western Europe since WW2!

[Loki77]

Finally a reply that makes some sense. It is amusing to see the hatred towards European moderate socialist parties while at the same time Bush's US and socialist-led Blair's GB are the best of friends (and Blair being a member of the PES).

Even here in Finland the party (SDP) that is a member of PES can quite comfortably form a government with a right wing party (and it's been like that as long as I can remember..there are 1 big socialist and 1 right-wing party in government and things still get done). Hell, it's hard to tell the difference between today's "socialist" parties and centre right parties.

All in all, it seems that socialist has a bit different meaning in US than it has in Europe.

Christians Democrats are considered the equivilant to the Democratic Party.

[Friendly Fire]

Christians Democrats are considered the equivilant to the Democratic Party.


No the equivalent of the right wing of the DP.

[Loki77]

No the equivalent of the right wing of the DP.

What ?????

[Friendly Fire]

What ?????


Christian democrats europe wide can be assimilated with the right wing of the Democrat Party in the US.

[Ddavid]

I suppose he means the America that opposed torture. The one that was confident and won the victories over Communism and Fascism. The one that stood for free trade. Ronald Reagan's America.

Come on, Reagan Nixon and Peanuts boy weren't than much better than Junior, just less caricatural.
And it's the congress who changed, not Junior. Expect lot of inertia for 2 years

[Geezah]

Good point. The Democrats are Communists! Communists I say! Look at their policies!

-Medicare Drug Benefits!
-Secret Police reading our E-mail!
-Torture chambers!
-Economic policies that are selling American stuff to Foreigners!

It is all in Das Kapital I'm telling ya! It's in the Bible! Cats sleeping with dogs! It's the End Times!

Yeah along with the Dems requiring that we rely on bigger Government, socialised medicine, ain't it a winner, the list can go on and on.

[Ordie]

In the latest election, the Democrats won Congress thanks to the 'Blue Dog' (Conservative Democrats) canidates. I doubt that the European Socialist will be given a big bear hug.

Socialism is viewed as a radical political leftist movement in the US. Perhaps the European Socialist should consider re-branding thier political product before approaching DC.

[perdurabo]

Well if you think Euro Socialists = Soviet Socialists...

i will give you other "="
chair = electrical chair

[Mr. JOSHUA]

In the latest election, the Democrats won Congress thanks to the 'Blue Dog' (Conservative Democrats) canidates.




WHAT? There is no such thing as a conservative Democrat. The closest thing to that is Joe Liberman and the only thing he's conservative on is the war on terror. He's a liberal socialist on everything else.

Republicans did not lose because of the mythical "Conservative Democrats".

Replublicans and George Bush lost the congressional elections because they turned their backs on real conservatives.

They thought that if they carried themselves on a conservative platform, they would win the election and they did for the first three elections, but on this last one, conservatives were really pissed off about the way republicans abandoned them after the conservatives elected them and started pandering to the left.

Dubai Ports (porks) deal, Illegal Immigration, fighting the Iraq war "PC" style, social security, bumbling around like a dufus and ultimatly being duped like a dufus by the media and the left after hurricane katrina.

The Dubai Ports deal is the one that really, really pissed off alot of people including me. The fact that he had the nuts to say after opposition had built momentum, that he would veto any proposal to stop a pork deal like that from going through.

WTF!

M*therF*cker! You won't veto any of your goddamn spending bills that are plunging America more into debt, but you will veto this.

I don't know what to say about Bush anymore!

He's shafting us like Clinton shafted us.

[Geezah]

^The Republicans did not lose, the Demoocrats won, but only for the most part because of protest votes or people that did not vote at all.
I contemplated not voting for Dewine(as I can't stand that arsehat) but I did to try and keep the majority in the Senate, better the Devil I know.

[Friendly Fire]

^The Republicans did not lose, the Demoocrats won, but only for the most part because of protest votes or people that did not vote at all.
I contemplated not voting for Dewine(as I can't stand that arsehat) but I did to try and keep the majority in the Senate, better the Devil I know.


That's what the Pro-US candidate said in Venezuela too!

[phoilme]

SMACK! Out of the ball park Mr. Joshua. Good Job.

[Friendly Fire]

i will give you other "="
chair = electrical chair


Here another one:

English Skills=Your English skills!

Read the whole post!

[Geezah]

That's what the Pro-US candidate said in Venezuela too!

I don't care what was said in Venezuela, that was the case here.

I didn't vote a completely straight ticket, I voted for a Dem for attorney general and the only reason was because he got an A- against a C where gun rights are concerned.
Dewine got an F against D-, so guess what Dewine was out, I really think gun owners votes count over here and they don't take kindly to those that were put in office messign with their firearms.
Allot of the Republicans have upset the voters, they stood for one thing when they were voted in, but lied to us, they ended up being RINOs, so they either didn't get put back in office due to people not voting for them or people voting against them in protest.

[phoilme]

I'm 1st district - Iowa. We got clobbered. Jim Nussle decided he was governor material and the GOP candidate, Mike Whalen, was creamed by a trial lawyer. Nussle lost to Lt. Gov. Culver. And to add to the big sh!t sandwich was Jim Leach campaigning in DC. Rude awakening for him. Lemonade time. I still have Indian casinos and the lottery.

[Friendly Fire]

I don't care what was said in Venezuela, that was the case here.

I didn't vote a completely straight ticket, I voted for a Dem for attorney general and the only reason was because he got an A- against a C where gun rights are concerned.
Dewine got an F against D-, so guess what Dewine was out, I really think gun owners votes count over here and they don't take kindly to those that were put in office messign with their firearms.
Allot of the Republicans have upset the voters, they stood for one thing when they were voted in, but lied to us, they ended up being RINOs, so they either didn't get put back in office due to people not voting for them or people voting against them in protest.


Take it easy. I was merely joking.

But the point is that people around your location seem indeed not interested in policies, but rather on politics.

That's how you elect Clinton and Dubya twice.

[demotivater]

I suppose he means the America that opposed torture. The one that was confident and won the victories over Communism and Fascism. The one that stood for free trade. Ronald Reagan's America.
And that's what Howard Dean stands for? You've got to be kidding me!

[Friendly Fire]

And that's what Howard Dean stands for? You've got to be kidding me!

Yes and it highly unwise to put in the same sentence Torture and Reagan without mentioning Contras and their belief in a free world!

You want some pictures?

[demotivater]

Also unwise is putting Dean and Reagan in the same sentence.

[Geezah]

Take it easy. I was merely joking.

But the point is that people around your location seem indeed not interested in policies, but rather on politics.

That's how you elect Clinton and Dubya twice.

Actually Clinton got in in because Perot split the vote then backed out at the last minute.
As far as President Bush getting in the 2nd time, well Kerry wasn't much of a choice, especially since he has a history of talkign to the enemy.

[Friendly Fire]

Also unwise is putting Dean and Reagan in the same sentence.


Uhmm..right. At least Dean deserves some respect for being an "european" trying to make his way through the Us political system.

[Friendly Fire]

Actually Clinton got in in because Perot split the vote then backed out at the last minute.
As far as President Bush getting in the 2nd time, well Kerry wasn't much of a choice, especially since he has a history of talkign to the enemy.


Ehem with his gun!

[Geezah]

Ehem with his gun!

Paris, Kerry met with the NVA, plus he sold out the US troops, while he was a vocal member of the VietNam Vets Against the War.

[Friendly Fire]

Paris, Kerry met with the NVA, plus he sold out the US troops, while he was a vocal member of the VietNam Vets Against the War.


Meh even nixon met with the NVA baseline, traitor too?

You're heading to nowhere land. When in war, you must consider peace and thus meeting "the enemy" at least if you're sane!

[Jobu]

Meh even nixon met with the NVA baseline, traitor too?

Nixon was President of the United States. When he met with the North Vietnamese enemy it was to form some agreement on finding peace.

Kerry went to Paris as a war protester and as someone who seeked to undermine the effort. He met with the Viet Cong and then campaigned for their terms in the United States.

Big difference.

[Geezah]

Meh even nixon met with the NVA baseline, traitor too?

You're heading to nowhere land. When in war, you must consider peace and thus meeting "the enemy" at least if you're sane!

Kerry would have been up on charges of sedition and treason(if I were in charge), he was not in a position to negotiate with the enemy.

The guy is no good and cares nothing about the US troops then or now, he used the whole thing as a spring board for his political campaign.

Use Google, it can be your friend too!

[Friendly Fire]

Nixon was President of the United States. When he met with the North Vietnamese enemy it was to form some agreement on finding peace.

Kerry went to Paris as a war protester and as someone who seeked to undermine the effort. He met with the Viet Cong and then campaigned for their terms in the United States.

Big difference.

Negotiate what? The president used it's discretionnary power to get in Paris just google it too! I don't think he was given a mandate to "make peace" with commies!

Ahh double standarts!

[dangerclose]

I suppose he means the America that opposed torture. The one that was confident and won the victories over Communism and Fascism. The one that stood for free trade. Ronald Reagan's America.


lol now Ronald Reagan is lauded by stupid libs. Back when he was prez he was just as despised by them as Bush is.