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mout
12-08-2006, 04:02 AM
Airborne brigade :

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From various infantry regiments :

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Alpha Leader
12-08-2006, 04:19 AM
Nice post, some good actionspics here.Thanks
valdezfa18
12-08-2006, 07:38 AM
French infantry? what is that? LOL nice picswoot
Wamba
12-08-2006, 07:58 AM
Nice pics. Thanks.

There are 2 different types of helmets in the pics, what's the deal with that?

No standardisation for helmets?
KillerBD
12-08-2006, 08:33 AM
I havent seen many French soldiers carrying the FAMAS G2, all of them seem to always use the FAMAS F1. Is the F1 version better? Or is the reason why just because the French military doesn't wanna fork out the extra cash to buy them?
xav
12-08-2006, 08:41 AM
Nice pics. Thanks.

There are 2 different types of helmets in the pics, what's the deal with that?

No standardisation for helmets?

The "slimmer" helmets are for paras, the other larger helmets are for other troops.
Paras need slimmer helmet so that the wires of the parachutes wont touch the helmet(correct me if i am wrong)


I havent seen many French soldiers carrying the FAMAS G2, all of them seem to always use the FAMAS F1. Is the F1 version better? Or is the reason why just because the French military doesn't wanna fork out the extra cash to buy them?

Only the navy troops and some SF are issued the Famas G2. I don't know the reason.
Belial
12-08-2006, 10:04 AM
The G2 is used by the navy and some specialised units because it's marine coated while the F1 isn't. There's no real use switching over to the G2 in the land forces, it does the job just the same as the G2, except for the five rounds less in a mag at a max capacity. The G2 is said to have a lower slightly lower initial speed and to have a higher fire rate (which is uneeded for the land forces due to the already quite fast -way too fast for some- rate of fire of the F1). They both basically do the same job though.

That rifle is slightly more than 30 year old and it needs and indepth revalorisation to be up among the best rifles around. It's a pretty awesome concept but being one of the first widely deployed bullpups, it's got its flaws and is visibly aging.
Belial
12-08-2006, 10:18 AM
The "slimmer" helmets are for paras, the other larger helmets are for other troops.
Paras need slimmer helmet so that the wires of the parachutes wont touch the helmet(correct me if i am wrong)


Yup, the "ropes" of the EPI "interact" with the sides of the Spectra helmet, that's why the airborne troops still use the F1 helmets mostly when the possibility of a training or operationnal drop is there. A few years ago the F1 could be widely seen in metropolitan france as the ammount of Spectra helmets was insufficient to be issued to all the french units and was reserved for troops that were deployed oversea.
AROUETLJ
12-08-2006, 10:22 AM
The G2 is used by the navy and some specialised units because it's marine coated while the F1 isn't. There's no real use switching over to the G2 in the land forces, it does the job just the same as the G2, except for the five rounds less in a mag at a max capacity. The G2 is said to have a lower slightly lower initial speed and to have a higher fire rate (which is uneeded for the land forces due to the already quite fast -way too fast for some- rate of fire of the F1). They both basically do the same job though.

That rifle is slightly more than 30 year old and it needs and indepth revalorisation to be up among the best rifles around. It's a pretty awesome concept but being one of the first widely deployed bullpups, it's got its flaws and is visibly aging.

Could you confirm whether or not the firing mechanism will be changed for the FELIN version of the FAMAS? Although the furniture on the rifle was changed, Sagem D&S recieved the current FAMAS rifle for modification, so I presume the basic working parts will remain unchanged.
Belial
12-08-2006, 10:45 AM
Could you confirm whether or not the firing mechanism will be changed for the FELIN version of the FAMAS? Although the furniture on the rifle was changed, Sagem D&S recieved the current FAMAS rifle for modification, so I presume the basic working parts will remain unchanged.

Are you kidding me ? The french army changing anything to something that still works no matter how old and tired it is ? :) we're on a budget and I doubt that after having swallowed the cost of the personnal electronics, the people deciding that kind of things will bother having a look at a perfectly fine and working piece of gear in their opinion :) The STAT would rather get their hands on big popular programmes such as armored vehicles than bother having a look at the internals of the good ol' FAMAS ... I mean, we're still waiting for a replacement for our ANF1, aren't we ? (It's been a while since I've been out). They'd rather spend money on a successor to the FAMAS familly if they had any after all those costly programmes.

(All that's my advice, but I'm far from having the brains of a Christmas tree from the EMAT or a blouse from the STAT :)
AROUETLJ
12-08-2006, 11:30 AM
(All that's my advice, but I'm far from having the brains of a Christmas tree from the EMAT or a blouse from the STAT :)

Well, I know some very bright people who work in the rear echelons.... :) And some of them abandoned highly-paid jobs after a 'late vocation' to join the army as OSC. Anyway, most French soldiers (including high-speed SF ones) will tell you that the FAMAS is an excellent weapon, 'perhaps a bit loud', but robust and reliable. One question for you Belial, since you seem to know your stuff: 1er RI was the first regiment from the "biffe" to introduce some degree of specialisation for its companies (urban combat). Are any other infantry regiments doing the same?
Andreas
12-08-2006, 11:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUzZIzML-nY
Squires
12-08-2006, 12:47 PM
thx for pix Mout, always a pleasure.

Paras ( red berets) rox!
Squires
12-08-2006, 12:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUzZIzML-nY


repost , repost and re repost...anyway...
Andreas
12-08-2006, 01:04 PM
repost , repost and re repost...anyway...

Iknow I know I know..
I usually post it to add a humorus touch to French threads.
Its the Norwegian comentary in the background that is a treat for those who speak the language

That said, no pun intended towards the french army in general

Cheers
Andreas
Squires
12-08-2006, 01:09 PM
ok ;-). Indeed it's quite funny.
Belial
12-08-2006, 01:36 PM
Well, I know some very bright people who work in the rear echelons.... :) And some of them abandoned highly-paid jobs after a 'late vocation' to join the army as OSC. Anyway, most French soldiers (including high-speed SF ones) will tell you that the FAMAS is an excellent weapon, 'perhaps a bit loud', but robust and reliable. One question for you Belial, since you seem to know your stuff: 1er RI was the first regiment from the "biffe" to introduce some degree of specialisation for its companies (urban combat). Are any other infantry regiments doing the same?


Not exactly a Biffin and it will soon be a decade since I left the services ;)
Possibly, I absolutely have no clue, this process must be recent then. The only specialisations I know of are that of some units from my former branch, and they are NOT part of the biffe and are pretty old news ;)
goat89
12-08-2006, 02:19 PM
Nice pics! Thx!
AROUETLJ
12-08-2006, 06:01 PM
Not exactly a Biffin and it will soon be a decade since I left the services ;)
Possibly, I absolutely have no clue, this process must be recent then. The only specialisations I know of are that of some units from my former branch, and they are NOT part of the biffe and are pretty old news ;)


Yes it's quite recent, 2005 I think, after a renewed interest in urban combat and the establishment of CENZUB and all.

What branch were you in?
Deicide
12-09-2006, 10:14 AM
Iknow I know I know..
I usually post it to add a humorus touch to French threads.
Its the Norwegian comentary in the background that is a treat for those who speak the language

That said, no pun intended towards the french army in general

Cheers
Andreas

Inacurate shots i guess? ;)
mout
12-11-2006, 08:01 AM
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