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Elemental666
12-08-2006, 01:58 PM
(AP) Iran said Sunday it would sponsor a conference to examine the scientific evidence supporting the Holocaust, an apparent next step in hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's campaign against Israel and a move likely to deepen Tehran's international isolation.

Ahmadinejad already had called the Nazis' World War II slaughter of 6 million European Jews a myth and said the Jewish state should be wiped off the map or moved to Germany or the United States.

Those remarks prompted a global outpouring of condemnation, and Tehran further raised international concern last week when it resumed what it called “research” at its uranium enrichment facility.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. organization that monitors nuclear proliferation, said Iran was resuming small-scale nuclear enrichment, a process that can produce fuel for atomic bombs.

That, in turn, prompted Washington and its allies to renew their push to take Iran before the U.N. Security Council for the possible imposition of sanctions.

The United States, its European allies and Japan believe Tehran is trying to build a nuclear weapon. Iran denies the charge and says its nuclear program is only for electricity generation.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi did not disclose where or when the Holocaust conference would be held, nor would he say who would attend or what had prompted Tehran to sponsor it.

On Saturday, however, Ahmadinejad urged the West to be sufficiently open-minded to allow a free international debate on the Holocaust. Asefi adopted that theme.

“It is a strange world. It is possible to discuss everything except the Holocaust. The Foreign Ministry plans to hold a conference on the scientific aspect of the issue to discuss and review its repercussions,” Asefi told reporters.

Earlier this month, the Association of Muslim Journalists, a hard-line group, proposed holding a similar conference, but Asefi said he was not aware of the association's wishes. He said the conference he announced was planned and supported by the ministry.

Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., a holocaust survivor who was born in Budapest, Hungary, has said he understood Iran was considering a conference that would call into question evidence that the Nazis conducted a mass murder of European Jews during World War II.

Israel and Iran had good relations until the 1979 Islamic revolution led by Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini deposed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. Israel had backed the shah, apparently prompting Khomeini to term it the “Little Satan.”

Ahmadinejad has adopted rhetoric reminiscent of Khomeini, seemingly trying to breathe life back into the waning revolutionary spirit in the country, whose residents are not traditionally anti-Jewish.

Before the revolution about 100,000 Jews lived in Iran, but three-fourths fled during the upheaval.

Ahmadinejad, who took office in August, caused an international outcry in October by calling Israel a “disgraceful blot” that should be “wiped off the map.”

Leaders around the world also condemned him after he called the Nazi slaughter of Jews during World War II a “myth.” He later said that if the Holocaust did happen, then Israel should be moved to Germany or North America, rather than making Palestinians suffer by losing their land to atone for crimes committed by Europeans.

Since the Islamic revolution, Israel has considered Iran a primary and existential threat. As Tehran's nuclear program has moved forward, the Israelis, who have nuclear weapons but do not to admit possessing such an arsenal, have refused to rule out using military force to destroy the Iranian program.

Source (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/15/world/main1209940.shtml)

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(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/15/world/main1209940.shtml)

ed316
12-08-2006, 02:00 PM
The Neo Nazis are invited along with Mel Gibson.

vinny_121_ND
12-08-2006, 02:53 PM
That's an insult to mankind, insult to the jews. I say we hold mass protests on the streets demanding he apologize.

Mr. JOSHUA
12-08-2006, 02:59 PM
That's an insult to mankind, insult to the jews. I say we hold mass protests on the streets demanding he apologize.


The only way you will be taken seriously is if you have on a peace sign or

a headscarf and a RPG on your shoulder.

lankan_tiger
12-08-2006, 03:00 PM
hello just testing

Lov3ll
12-08-2006, 03:03 PM
Everyone knows that the videos, pictures, trials, confessions, documents and mass graves are all fake. :roll:

khukuri
12-08-2006, 03:32 PM
That's an insult to mankind, insult to the jews. I say we hold mass protests on the streets demanding he apologize.

You can hold your mass protest when the conference results are finished based on the evidence shown.


Ahmadinajad is sure to keep the oil prices up.........

Mr.Flint
12-08-2006, 03:41 PM
You can hold your mass protest when the conference results are finished based on the evidence shown.


Ahmadinajad is sure to keep the oil prices up.........
There is little doubt on the result of the conference :cantbeli:

vinny_121_ND
12-08-2006, 03:53 PM
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The only way you will be taken seriously is if you have on a peace sign or

a headscarf and a RPG on your shoulder.

LOL, see this all goes back to how muslims can commit atrocities and it goes on without getting published (ie somalia), and then when coalition troops accidentally kill a few civilians, the whole entire arab world erupts in anger and more chants to america.

The outcome of this conference is pretty clear. Holocaust never happened, these gas chambers just weren't there. Anne frank was a myth. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant some people are.

Mr. Nielsen
12-08-2006, 04:10 PM
The outcome of this conference is pretty clear. Holocaust never happened, these gas chambers just weren't there. Anne frank was a myth. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant some people are.
But it could still be interesting, though, if someone dared to go overthere and actually tell them. That would make for an interesting documentary, no matter the outcome.

seraosha
12-08-2006, 04:17 PM
Ahmadinejad...

Man, this guy is a piece of work. I keep expecting news reports of clowns jumping out of his ears in an attempt to escape the confines of his frontal lobe.

2Sheds_Jackson
12-08-2006, 04:18 PM
Ahmadinajad is sure to keep the oil prices up.........

He and his pal Chavez have a good thing going - if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? :)

Saranof
12-08-2006, 04:23 PM
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LOL, see this all goes back to how muslims can commit atrocities and it goes on without getting published (ie somalia), and then when coalition troops accidentally kill a few civilians, the whole entire arab world erupts in anger and more chants to america.


I agree! All muslims commit atrocities, and this does not get published because they are muslims. I mean, when was the last time you heard about some muslim kill someone? Exactly, never! It's not like anyone else kills people! Christians never kill anyone. Nor hindus.
Muslims just kill people and take their money, just like those je..oh wait..


:roll:

Son of Damian
12-08-2006, 04:29 PM
But it could still be interesting, though, if someone dared to go overthere and actually tell them. That would make for an interesting documentary, no matter the outcome.

I think you would be more likely to get through to them if you took a couple people who don't believe on a tour of Auschwitz and some of the other camps.

Ergnkon
12-08-2006, 05:36 PM
I agree! All muslims commit atrocities, and this does not get published because they are muslims. I mean, when was the last time you heard about some muslim kill someone? Exactly, never! It's not like anyone else kills people! Christians never kill anyone. Nor hindus.
Muslims just kill people and take their money, just like those je..oh wait..


:roll:


LOL!! that was pretty good :)

Danik
12-08-2006, 09:01 PM
Asshat. or.....


Brilliant Energy Trader.

kinsella
12-08-2006, 10:02 PM
maybe after they finish with the holocust, they can look into that rumor of a couple of big bombs being dropped on japan. :roll:

LaoSexMachine
12-08-2006, 10:05 PM
Bet he is just saying what alot of people in the ME think.

kinsella
12-08-2006, 10:16 PM
Bet he is just saying what alot of people in the ME think.

are people in that part of the wolrd that sheltered? i simply cannot imagine a group of people believing that the holocust never happened. to me, thats is as crazy as a group of people saying slavery never happened in the states. is he really that crazy, or just having fun with us.

is he really that crazy, or just having fun with us?

maybe he is just doing this because he knows that it will get inside the heads of the rest of the world.

LaoSexMachine
12-08-2006, 10:26 PM
We in the west have learned that in school. Doubt the Holocaust is part of the curriculum there.

LRPV
12-08-2006, 10:44 PM
If the Japanese can edit their school history books to hide war crimes by the Imperial Army it is not beyond credability that Arab or Persian schools would or could sanitise their version of history.

Ergnkon
12-08-2006, 11:33 PM
We in the west have learned that in school. Doubt the Holocaust is part of the curriculum there.

Oh no. Everyone in the ME knows about it and they don't deny it like the western neo nazis does. It's just that they think it's being used for everything and anything, and this whole situation in the ME gives ppl from there a some kind of feeling to use it just like the other side is using it.

I think Iranian president is using it exactlt in the same manner.

sir-chimp
12-09-2006, 12:30 AM
The Neo Nazis are invited along with Mel Gibson.

I hear Louis Farrakhan and Robert Byrd are guest speakers

Maus
12-09-2006, 12:34 AM
That's an insult to mankind, insult to the jews. I say we hold mass protests on the streets demanding he apologize.
You will be sent together with your demands very far. ;)

WKD
12-09-2006, 12:35 AM
Source (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/15/world/main1209940.shtml)

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(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/15/world/main1209940.shtml)

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You can freely debate the Holocaust in the West, just don't deny it in some european countries. But Germany and Austria do not the West make.

Jesus this guy pisses me off. And so does any idiot who stops to listen to him. Seriously, bull**** rhetoric by some bearded little fundmentalist. I'm sick of bearded ****ing fundamentalists.

Maus
12-09-2006, 12:41 AM
maybe after they finish with the holocust, they can look into that rumor of a couple of big bombs being dropped on japan. :roll:I wonder, when USA will apologize and pay compensation to japanese?

kinsella
12-09-2006, 12:51 AM
I wonder, when USA will apologize and pay compensation to japanese?
no apologies in war. i think helping rebuild the country, and becoming allies is enough.

they took an ass whooping, picked themselves up, dusted off and moved on. i think thats why americans dont have lasting hatered towards them and even admire them as fighters. they fought, they lost, they got over it and made themselves better.

sir-chimp
12-09-2006, 12:52 AM
I wonder, when USA will apologize and pay compensation to japanese?

I imagine Rosie O'Donnell has a better chance of swearing off twinkies

Maus
12-09-2006, 01:20 AM
no apologies in war. i think helping rebuild the country, and becoming allies is enough.
Tell that to Hibakusha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha), men who's dying from consequences of atomic bombing even now.



they took an ass whooping, picked themselves up, dusted off and moved on. i think thats why americans dont have lasting hatered towards them
Do americans have the reason to hate them? I don't remember japaneses massacred USA civilians, but vice versa.



and even admire them as fighters. they fought, they lost, they got over it and made themselves better.It's not about winning or losing, it's about serious war crimes. Poland still demand apologies for Katyn, but Katyn is nothing compared to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki).

muttbutt
12-09-2006, 01:23 AM
Tell that to Hibakusha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha), men who's dying from consequences of atomic bombing even now.



Do americans have the reason to hate them? I don't remember japaneses massacred USA civilians, but vice versa.


It's not about winning or losing, it's about serious war crimes. Poland still demand apologies for Katyn, but Katyn is nothing compared to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki).
I predict you'll have a short eventful stay here maus.

Maus
12-09-2006, 01:26 AM
muttbutt, is something I said wrong? disprove me!

sir-chimp
12-09-2006, 01:29 AM
the flat earth society strikes again

Maus
12-09-2006, 01:33 AM
Well, I suppose many americans don't know even now Earth is round ;)

Hunterhr
12-09-2006, 01:35 AM
I wonder, when USA will apologize and pay compensation to japanese?

About the same time the Japanese admit they vivisected live POW's.


Do americans have the reason to hate them? I don't remember japaneses massacred USA civilians, but vice versa.

Wake Island.

kinsella
12-09-2006, 01:35 AM
Well, I suppose many americans don't know even now Earth is round ;)

naw........we get to see it from space.

sir-chimp
12-09-2006, 01:37 AM
naw........we get to see it from space.

I heard they faked the moon landings

muttbutt
12-09-2006, 01:42 AM
I heard they faked the moon landings
Neil Armstrong and Buzz Alderin will kick your ass for saying that

kinsella
12-09-2006, 01:46 AM
oh boy.......



Tell that to Hibakusha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha), men who's dying from consequences of atomic bombing even now.

if the bombs had left enough radiation to continue to kill, why are the cities thriving today? those men you speak of are surviors from the bomb. not ones born today and die tommorow.




Do americans have the reason to hate them? I don't remember japaneses massacred USA civilians, but vice versa.

yes we do have a reason to hate them, peral harbor ring a bell?? midway, truk, and many other islands i cannot spell. we had a reason to hate them then, not now. they fought honarably and so we respect them.



It's not about winning or losing, it's about serious war crimes. Poland still demand apologies for Katyn, but Katyn is nothing compared to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki).

war crimes are in the eye of the loser. we dropped one, gave them a chance to surrender. they didnt, so we did it again. then they said, well, maybe we outta give up now, no need to lose another city, 2 is enough.

we used those bombs to keep from losing more of our guys. had we not used them, we most likely still would have won, just at a much higher price. we had the technology, and we used it.

kinsella
12-09-2006, 01:47 AM
Neil Armstrong and Buzz Alderin will kick your ass for saying that

hey, hey, hey now.......dont forget about michael collins, the command modual pilot. p-)



so whats up with MAUS getting banned?? what got him in trouble? was looking forward to more rantings. that was kinda fast, only 15 posts. he could have at least held off on being a dumbass until next thru. that way we would have a whole week to read him and give him the big prize next week. oh well....

Loki77
12-09-2006, 01:53 AM
Originally Posted by Maus http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2144276#post2144276)
I wonder, when USA will apologize and pay compensation to japanese?


I wonder, when Japan will apologize and pay compensation to chinese??
The Nanking Massacre, commonly known as "The Rape of Nanking"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

Azer12
12-09-2006, 02:16 AM
wow... he's crazi

WKD
12-09-2006, 02:49 AM
oh boy.......




if the bombs had left enough radiation to continue to kill, why are the cities thriving today? those men you speak of are surviors from the bomb. not ones born today and die tommorow.





yes we do have a reason to hate them, peral harbor ring a bell?? midway, truk, and many other islands i cannot spell. we had a reason to hate them then, not now. they fought honarably and so we respect them.




war crimes are in the eye of the loser. we dropped one, gave them a chance to surrender. they didnt, so we did it again. then they said, well, maybe we outta give up now, no need to lose another city, 2 is enough.

we used those bombs to keep from losing more of our guys. had we not used them, we most likely still would have won, just at a much higher price. we had the technology, and we used it.

Not to mentioned the million or so extra Japanese civillians that would've been flushed at the same time. Even then it took Hirohito to force the generals to capitulate. Those bombs saved lives on both sides.



I wonder, when Japan will apologize and pay compensation to chinese??
The Nanking Massacre, commonly known as "The Rape of Nanking"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre



Nanking and the rest. Murder of civillians was part of systematic official policy for the Japanese and the Nazis. That's what seperated them from the Allies.

Azer12
12-09-2006, 02:53 AM
we sure showed them who's boss!
why cant we do the same with iraqis?

Hunterhr
12-09-2006, 02:55 AM
we sure showed them who's boss!

Amazing what unconditional surrender will do.

Remind me again what wars the Japanese and Germans started after WWII?

kinsella
12-09-2006, 02:57 AM
Amazing what unconditional surrender will do.

Remind me again what wars the Japanese and Germans started after WWII?

they started to play well with others :)

WKD
12-09-2006, 03:04 AM
Amazing what unconditional surrender will do.

Remind me again what wars the Japanese and Germans started after WWII?

Unconditional surrender matched with absolute destruction and years of heavy heavy casualties. WWII was un****ingbelievable. Nothing else compares to it.

kinsella
12-09-2006, 03:08 AM
Unconditional surrender matched with absolute destruction and years of heavy heavy casualties. WWII was un****ingbelievable. Nothing else compares to it.

do you think WWII was heavier on casualties because of the types of weapons and the state of medicne, or because, unlike today, we understood war was bloody and we did what was needed to win, all out fighting and sheer brute forcce when needed?

no baiting you, this is something i have been pondering for a bit.

WKD
12-09-2006, 04:10 AM
do you think WWII was heavier on casualties because of the types of weapons and the state of medicne, or because, unlike today, we understood war was bloody and we did what was needed to win, all out fighting and sheer brute forcce when needed?

no baiting you, this is something i have been pondering for a bit.

Sure, technology played a part but I would have thought it was heavier in casualties because all the industrialised nations of the world (World War) mobilised the entirety of their labour forces and production for total warfare against each other in a conflict that saw six years of intense and near constant fighting. Hitler invaded the USSR with millions of troops (Wikipedia say 3.2, I thought it was closer to 4)? Throw armies of millions (MILLIONS) against each other and you will get lots and lots and lots of dead people. Add no respect for civillians (Hitler was genocidal), rinse, repeat.

The western allied countries were respectful of civillians when they got on the ground. 'Getting the job done' did not involve 'shoot those german villagers'.

No disrespect intended, but having millions of soldiers of a genocidal nation state make an armoured attack on your country will cause death and destruction and threaten your nation like no terrorist attack could dream off. Industrialised Total War > Terrorism, basically because EVERYBODY is working towards killing EVERYBODY ELSE.

Sorry if I seem abrupt here, I am not trying to flame you, but I think it's a point that needs to be made like Guderians assault on France (ACHTUNG PANZER!). Industrialised Total War > Terrorism.

Loki77
12-09-2006, 04:39 AM
Sorry if I seem abrupt here, I am not trying to flame you, but I think it's a point that needs to be made like Guderians assault on France (ACHTUNG PANZER!). Industrialised Total War > Terrorism.

WOW........

takavar
12-09-2006, 12:08 PM
i mean, ive read a few books that pretty much claim the same thing, saying that the killing of 6 mil jews is a myth and the number was close to 300.000 at most, if you think about it, 6 mil thats alot of people to kill in that short period of time, i dont know though, i can be wrong, i am just trying to make sense of it mathematically in my head, it be interesting to see if they actually go through with this

StarvingStudent47
12-09-2006, 12:15 PM
i mean, ive read a few books that pretty much claim the same thing, saying that the killing of 6 mil jews is a myth and the number was close to 300.000 at most, if you think about it, 6 mil thats alot of people to kill in that short period of time

You're right. It was a lot in a short amount of time. Probably the most efficient genocide in history. Doesn't mean it didn't happen.

hughdotoh
12-09-2006, 12:19 PM
What was it that Reinhard Heydrich said about missing the jews? Ahneidablojob was 50 points dumber.

LaoSexMachine
12-09-2006, 12:20 PM
i mean, ive read a few books that pretty much claim the same thing, saying that the killing of 6 mil jews is a myth and the number was close to 300.000 at most, if you think about it, 6 mil thats alot of people to kill in that short period of time, i dont know though, i can be wrong, i am just trying to make sense of it mathematically in my head, it be interesting to see if they actually go through with this

And what were these books? Author?

tanks_alot
12-09-2006, 12:52 PM
i mean, ive read a few books that pretty much claim the same thing, saying that the killing of 6 mil jews is a myth and the number was close to 300.000 at most, if you think about it, 6 mil thats alot of people to kill in that short period of time, i dont know though, i can be wrong, i am just trying to make sense of it mathematically in my head, it be interesting to see if they actually go through with this

Really thats very intersting.... do these books also claim it was not possible for 50 million people to die in WW2 in such a short time.....:roll:

and yeah it will be very intersting to see if they'll go through with it, i'm sure their conclusion is not already preordained......

exarmyguard
12-09-2006, 12:57 PM
Israeli representatives should show up and put the debate to rest. Don't label Iran for doubting the holocaust. Go there, bring the facts, lay it on the table, and Iran will shut up. End of story.

Turhapuro
12-09-2006, 01:06 PM
, 6 mil thats alot of people to kill in that short period of time, i dont know though, i can be wrong,
Why did you think that? At the same time germans managed to kill 10+ million (correct me if I am wrong)soviet soldiers who were constantly shooting back.

Turhapuro
12-09-2006, 01:08 PM
why cant we do the same with iraqis?
You have too efficient army ;)

You should have waged conventional total war for few years and they would be ready to surrender.

Turhapuro
12-09-2006, 01:12 PM
or because, unlike today, we understood war was bloody and we did what was needed to win
You did that because you really needed that win. In world wars stakes are enormously higher compared to regional conflict like Iraq.

exarmyguard
12-09-2006, 01:23 PM
You trying to tell me that a few educated Jews can't fly to Iran, put up some facts, have a discussion, throw back some coffee, prove the Iranians wrong, go home and sleep off the jet lag?

Elemental666
12-09-2006, 01:27 PM
You trying to tell me that a few educated Jews can't fly to Iran, put up some facts, have a discussion, throw back some coffee, prove the Iranians wrong, go home and sleep off the jet lag?

Those who don't wan't to believe the holocaust actualy happened,no explanation,picture or video in the world will ever change their mind.It's pointless.

exarmyguard
12-09-2006, 01:32 PM
Those who don't wan't to believe the holocaust actualy happened,no explanation,picture or video in the world will ever change their mind.It's pointless.

I don't think facts can be ignored. And if they, the Jews, can present their facts, who could doubt them. Yes, there will be hardcore ignorants who won't listen, but they could change the minds of some of them and that would be a great step. You have to engage Iran on this. You can't just let them have a big ol' conference and not present your case. Then televise the whole thing, from start to finish and the world will see. Those who ignore the facts will be marginalized and Iranian leaders who cling to fanasty will look stupid.

takavar
12-09-2006, 01:33 PM
i say bring the facts, if his willing to go with this, the jews should send Representatives and bring facts and prove it

takavar
12-09-2006, 01:35 PM
why is it that so many people hate jews all over the world, has it ever occured to anyone???? i mean for 5000 years or whatever these poor guys have been kicked out of country after country and killed off by different people, why the hell is that

takavar
12-09-2006, 01:40 PM
is maybe cause they killed jesus lol jk well they did didnt they??

Elemental666
12-09-2006, 01:41 PM
I don't think facts can be ignored.

Facts have been displayed over,and over,and over again...tons of footage,testimonies,you name it..again...those who choose not to believe in it,nothing will change their mind.I don't know why am i trying to explain this.

khukuri
12-09-2006, 01:42 PM
Oh no. Everyone in the ME knows about it and they don't deny it like the western neo nazis does. It's just that they think it's being used for everything and anything, and this whole situation in the ME gives ppl from there a some kind of feeling to use it just like the other side is using it.

I think Iranian president is using it exactlt in the same manner.

hear hear!

I dont doubt the holocaust .I found just as ridiculous doubting it as in europe where youre not allowed to doubt it. Europe is just as pathetic as ahmedinajad in this case-....

tanks_alot
12-09-2006, 02:07 PM
I don't think facts can be ignored. And if they, the Jews, can present their facts, who could doubt them. Yes, there will be hardcore ignorants who won't listen, but they could change the minds of some of them and that would be a great step. You have to engage Iran on this. You can't just let them have a big ol' conference and not present your case. Then televise the whole thing, from start to finish and the world will see. Those who ignore the facts will be marginalized and Iranian leaders who cling to fanasty will look stupid.

..................Are you that naive that you actualy think Ahmanijad gives a crap whether the holocaust happend or not??? do you think facts presented to him will make him say: "hmmm guess i was wrong", or is it just part of an Iranian agenda? facts are available to anyone who is intersted in them but if people are not intersted you can build a time machine take them into Auscwits 1944 and they will still say it's zionist lies, it's the best answer in the world and it works on every possible fact you can present.


why is it that so many people hate jews all over the world, has it ever occured to anyone???? i mean for 5000 years or whatever these poor guys have been kicked out of country after country and killed off by different people, why the hell is that

Because we eat babies, it's delicious.

takavar
12-09-2006, 02:26 PM
i got many jewish friends, their good dudes, but dont mess with them when it comes to money, or dont ask to borrow any, or thats the end of friendship lol

kinsella
12-09-2006, 03:03 PM
i say bring the facts, if his willing to go with this, the jews should send Representatives and bring facts and prove it


that sounds all well and good, that would be the sensable thing to do. problem is, we arent talking about a sensable person. you could line up every survivor and have them testify. that still wouldnt change his mind. he is not sensable at all. you cannot reason or explain anything to a person that denies the right of a people to even exsits.

besides, i wouldnt want to be the jews that goto iran and meet with a person that wishes that all would be wipped off the earth.

daily666
12-09-2006, 03:27 PM
Source (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/15/world/main1209940.shtml)

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(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/15/world/main1209940.shtml)

Why don't we just get him to Poland, there's enough evidence. Or he can talk to my grandmother.


What an arsehole :cantbeli:

exarmyguard
12-09-2006, 03:48 PM
Its not that you are trying to convince the President of Iran to throw up his hands and say "Whoops! My bad!". Its to put HIS ideas against facts which can then put to rest further speculation. Its more to convince those who are "on the fence" to realize that Iran is dead WRONG. This will marginalize him. This will make the President look like an A$$. I hope you understand my logic.

And Jews taste like chicken. lol

WKD
12-09-2006, 04:04 PM
i mean, ive read a few books that pretty much claim the same thing, saying that the killing of 6 mil jews is a myth and the number was close to 300.000 at most, if you think about it, 6 mil thats alot of people to kill in that short period of time, i dont know though, i can be wrong, i am just trying to make sense of it mathematically in my head, it be interesting to see if they actually go through with this

People were killed faster in Rwanda by a villagers with machetes. So no, not really unbelievable. Mind boggling but perfectly possible.

And made easier to verify by all those immaculate records the Nazis kept.


You trying to tell me that a few educated Jews can't fly to Iran, put up some facts, have a discussion, throw back some coffee, prove the Iranians wrong, go home and sleep off the jet lag?

HAHAHAHAHAHA, you rock.

You are taking the piss aren't you?

WKD
12-09-2006, 04:12 PM
..................Are you that naive that you actualy think Ahmanijad gives a crap whether the holocaust happend or not??? do you think facts presented to him will make him say: "hmmm guess i was wrong", or is it just part of an Iranian agenda? facts are available to anyone who is intersted in them but if people are not intersted you can build a time machine take them into Auscwits 1944 and they will still say it's zionist lies, it's the best answer in the world and it works on every possible fact you can present.



Because we eat babies, it's delicious.

They do indeed, I had dinner with a jewish friend of mine just the other day. Muslim babies are the best, you can taste the purity.


Its not that you are trying to convince the President of Iran to throw up his hands and say "Whoops! My bad!". Its to put HIS ideas against facts which can then put to rest further speculation. Its more to convince those who are "on the fence" to realize that Iran is dead WRONG. This will marginalize him. This will make the President look like an A$$. I hope you understand my logic.

And Jews taste like chicken. lol

Marginalise him with who? The people who want to wipe Israel of the map?

I don't think anything a bunch of baby eating anti-christs can say is going to change anyones mind, do you? Because, they WOULD say that wouldn't they?

You'd may as well have tried to logically explain to the Nazis why should stop killing all those Jews in the first place.

tanks_alot
12-09-2006, 04:13 PM
Its not that you are trying to convince the President of Iran to throw up his hands and say "Whoops! My bad!". Its to put HIS ideas against facts which can then put to rest further speculation. Its more to convince those who are "on the fence" to realize that Iran is dead WRONG. This will marginalize him. This will make the President look like an A$$. I hope you understand my logic.

And Jews taste like chicken. lol

I don't understand your logic, by conducting a conference to "explore" whether the holocaust happend or not and the reasons for the creation of the zionist regime, Iran is making itself look ridicoules just like with the holocaust cartoon contest and all of the other crazy crap they've been coming up with lately.

it's not a question of facts, it's a question of agendas and ideologies, no one is going to change his mind about the holocaust over their soon to be conclusion that it's just zionist lies, people who denay it usualy come equipped with a complete set of ideas on how the jews rule the world and etc' and facts will not intrest them aswell.

besides, going to Iran with facts that will not intrest anyone there will just legitimize that conference while right now people are just laughung about it.

WKD
12-09-2006, 04:23 PM
I don't understand your logic, by conducting a conference to "explore" whether the holocaust happend or not and the reasons for the creation of the zionist regime, Iran is making itself look ridicoules just like with the holocaust cartoon contest and all of the other crazy crap they've been coming up with lately.

it's not a question of facts, it's a question of agendas and ideologies, no one is going to change his mind about the holocaust over their soon to be conclusion that it's just zionist lies, people who denay it usualy come equipped with a complete set of ideas on how the jews rule the world and etc' and facts will not intrest them aswell.

besides, going to Iran with facts that will not intrest anyone there will just legitimize that conference while right now people are just laughung about it.

Goddamnit Tanks, where are my car keys? I know you travelled around the world last night to hide them from me. Dastardly jews, when will you ever stop?

Loki77
12-09-2006, 06:20 PM
You trying to tell me that a few educated Jews can't fly to Iran, put up some facts, have a discussion, throw back some coffee, prove the Iranians wrong, go home and sleep off the jet lag?

In the Iran lives 40.000 Jews..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iran

C.MAXIMUS
12-09-2006, 08:54 PM
We should use our powerfull mind controling rays to stop him.
Only one thing will stop iran and that is he bombs and lead. They are taking lebanon and Iraq and will try to do it to Israel, but we got a few to send him back to speak with allah.

LRPV
12-09-2006, 09:43 PM
Let's just wait and see how Iran deals with the likely break-up of Iraq. Apart from BS and bluster the chances are Iran is more interested in expanding its sphere of influence and becoming a recognised regional power than really going to war with Little Satan.

helomech
12-09-2006, 10:35 PM
Can we start the nonstop carpet bombing campaign now?Pretty please??

exarmyguard
12-09-2006, 10:51 PM
In the Iran lives 40.000 Jews..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Iran

ANd I am sure they keep their views quiet otherwise it will be like the ghettos of Russia. When the crops were bad, go beat and kill some Jews in the ghetto. If there was famine, go kill some Jews.

Loki77
12-09-2006, 11:02 PM
ANd I am sure they keep their views quiet otherwise it will be like the ghettos of Russia. When the crops were bad, go beat and kill some Jews in the ghetto. If there was famine, go kill some Jews.

Maybe but They are free for emigrate for Israel...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jew

Heckler213
12-09-2006, 11:47 PM
I don't think Iran Jews are in any danger.

Snoshi
12-10-2006, 05:52 AM
I don't think Iran Jews are in any danger.

Iranian Jews are a card for Ahadinejad,.... He will use them when it fits like.

"We dont hate Jews.. See we got our own Jews here."
or
"This conferance has proven that Holocaust happened but only 100 000 died.. The Iranian Jews confirm this information. They agree that Palestinians payed a heavy price for this.

Kilgor
12-10-2006, 07:46 PM
He fits the definition of a fanatic

One who wont change the subject and one who wont change his mind.