Wolf "Military Classic" ammunition

[Slater]

First time I've bought Wolf 7.62x39mm ammo in quite a while. Is this gray-cased ammunition the "polymer-coated" stuff that they've been advertising?

[Ezekiel25:17]

It's good, works, and cheap. I use that and Brown Bear.

[ZoneOne]

Have fun cleaning your weapon.

WOLF is the dirtiest ammo out there.

[Ezekiel25:17]

True but cleaning weapons is not a chore anymore. I like it. Nothing like drinking a beer and cleaning my guns.

[CptBertz]

i used wolf .308 ammo one time in my L1A1, it was terrible i had manually chamber a new round each time cause the casing would get stuck and not let the bolt go back. It made the kick worse too but only slightly

[Dan2004]

True but cleaning weapons is not a chore anymore. I like it. Nothing like drinking a beer and cleaning my guns.

I find it kind of fun. Seeing how fast I can strip down my '15, clean her pieces-parts, and slap her back together again. Damn near the highlight of my week!woot

BTW, I use Wolf .223 routinely. About as musch as Black Hills and American Eagle, maybe more.

[Laworkerbee]

True but cleaning weapons is not a chore anymore. I like it. Nothing like drinking a beer and cleaning my guns.

Good man to have around right there

[Roaming East]

Im a surplus shooter anyway so its no dirtier than what i normally run through my rifles...

[TacoDelRio]

Good man to have around right there

Hell yeah. Sounds like fun to me as well.

Wolf ain't bad... assuming you're one of the 1% of the gun owning community who actually cleans their firearms.

[Mike762]

Have fun cleaning your weapon.

WOLF is the dirtiest ammo out there.


It is very dirty, but not the dirtiest out there. Try some Chinese steel core, it's the dirtiest I've ever shot. As for wolf, yea it's dirty but it's cheap and it works but I only shoot it from my AKs I wont shoot it out of my ARs

[Roaming East]

It is very dirty, but not the dirtiest out there. Try some Chinese steel core, it's the dirtiest I've ever shot. As for wolf, yea it's dirty but it's cheap and it works but I only shoot it from my AKs I wont shoot it out of my ARs
bah, i scoff at your Chinese ammo. You ever run 500 rounds of Mexican 7.62 Nato through a weapon? made my rifle look like a smokers lungs

[bearfirefighter]

I have a Bushmaster, and I have had more malfunctions with Wolf than without, especialy when I'm going balls to the wall. I wouldn't want to carry it in combat if I staked my life on it. That says it all...

[ag05]

I've got an old Yugo SKS and I use Wolf ammo to the exclusion of everything else. You can't beat the price, yes it's cheap ComBloc crap, but it's also a cheap ComBloc rifle designed to run cheap crap. I wouldn't run Wolf ammo through an AR or a handgun. But it works for what it was designed for.

The sustained-fire rotten-egg smell is a bit annoying, though.

[Ezekiel25:17]

The sustained-fire rotten-egg smell is a bit annoying, though.

Cologne man, cologne. I shoot nothing but surplus through my AKs.

[gaijinsamurai]

When I had my Bushmaster, I shot Wolf .223 out of it a few times. It was really bad ammo. However, that was about eight years ago, and their quality control may have improved since then.
Also, bear in mind that AKs and SKSs are a lot less tempermental than AR15/M16/M4s, and the disadvantages experienced with the .223s may be negligible.

[Roaming East]

The best thing about owning reliable weapons is that they dont care what you feed them. sooner or later im going to clean my PTR91 but i see no reason to baby a tool designed for rough living.

[exarmyguard]

True but cleaning weapons is not a chore anymore. I like it. Nothing like drinking a beer and cleaning my guns.

Amen.......

[Frens]

Dirty as hell but I quote Ezekiel. :)

I had nothing but bad experience with wolf :-(...100% defective bullets on 400rounds from 2 different lots that hurt my accuracy at 100m and even at 50m.
also their polymer coated stuff caused my first stuck case in my AR in 7years :|

some people even say that their non-corrosive ammunitions are corrosive.

[TonyT]

Wolf is terrible ammo and you guys should clean your weapons. Clean weapons and good ammo will increase accuracy. In one of my AR's it changed groups from 3" to nearly an inch at 100 yards.

Cleaning a weapon isn't babying it but I am sure you were kidding.

Remember: Clean weapons and quality ammo.

[Ezekiel25:17]

As long as my AK is hitting a man size target at 100 yards I have no problem.


I always clean my weapons after I shoot them. Like I said I like it.

[Roaming East]

I clean mine as well but a weapon that will only run when spic and span and shooting holy grail, virgin ammunition is a worthless device to me.

[lt tahoe]

Amen.

From what I've seen, Wolf is decent practice ammo, and the only real problems come from shooting Wolf, then brass-cased ammo. Then it sticks in the chamber from fouling.

Steel cases seem to allow fouling to blow-back into the chamber, since it doesn't expand as nicely as brass; brass ammo then expands in there and sticks tight.

[Hunterhr]

I have a Bushmaster, and I have had more malfunctions with Wolf than without, especialy when I'm going balls to the wall. I wouldn't want to carry it in combat if I staked my life on it. That says it all...

Why would you ever stake your life on Wolf ammo, much less carry it in combat?

It's plinking/practice ammo.

[Pook2]

Last time I shot I fired Wolf .223 55gr through my AR, no major problems other than one instance of double feed. I'm no competition shooter, and I never really shoot beyond 50 yards, so it does fine for me. Cheap is the way I go.

[StukaJr]

Difference between "clean" ammo and "dirty" ammo is rather mute, rather how tolerant the weapon is to build up - military grade weapon is much less likely to malfunction than a Match Conditioned primadona... A vast majority of malfunctions arise from the weapons being fired in many sittings without proper cleaning - proper cleaning is a must... A friend of mine was going to send his pistol because it kept on "jamming" (double feeds) - found out that he never properly cleaned the chamber, just the bore... Saved him $20, a month of wait and embarrassment from the factory gunsmith's lecture upon receiving untouched firearm back...

I like cleaning my guns - it doesn't damage them to have them clean and they function better when they are clean. I also like to have a piece of mind that I'm double checking for wear, early signs of trouble etc... Must come with extra restrictive laws and bumped prices too

[Createdeemcee]

Have fun cleaning your weapon.

WOLF is the dirtiest ammo out there.


Great for what they were made for. Ak's and Sks. THey were desighned to fire this cartridge since steel is so prevailent in Russia and those parts of europe. They dont have access to to many other metals so its cheap and effective. As for an AR i wouldnt fire a steel case in it for a million bucks. If your an ak shooter your right where you want to be along the lines of ammo.

[oldsoak]

True but cleaning weapons is not a chore anymore. I like it. Nothing like drinking a beer and cleaning my guns.

- now, get a couple of bacon sandwiches and a mate to yarn with, and you're talking ! Its a damn civilised way to do a dirty job.

[TonyT]

It doesn't matter what type of weapon you shoot, to include AK's, it simply makes sense to clean them and use better ammo. This has nothing to do with 'babying' your weapon. Cleaning a rifle reduces carbon build up and potential pitting of the bore and barrel and improves accuracy.

If you are going to store your weapon for long periods of time between shooting it then it makes sense even more sense to clean it first. Most civilians won't put enough rounds through an AK, FN, G-3, or AR during a week to cause it to start malfunctioning. However, your investment in these weapons is best protected by cleaning them before storing.

Cleaning is so important in the break-in process of some new rifles, DSA SA-58 for example, that they detail the cleaning process which includes cleaning the breach and barrel between the each and every one of the 1st 20 shots. I saw the affects 1st hand with two rifles. One I followed the process and the other I did not. The difference was nearly 2" at 100 yards. Neither malfuctioned with or without cleaning.

If your goal is to simply hit a man sized target at 100 yards, an often stated accuracy goal, in these forums (groups of about 10 MOA) then don't clean or oil them, risk damage with Wolf ammo, and blow off all advice. If you seek to maintain your investment, reduce failures and potential weapon damage, and improve accuracy then follow a few steps: clean weapon after use and use decent ammo. Simple.

[Hydro]

Ideally you ought to clean weapons after each session, my outlook is why tempt fate? Your weapon may soldier on after 10K rounds without cleaning, but the possibility of a fouling related stoppage is greatly increased.

[Durandal]

Fired 10s of thousands of Wolf or similar stuff. Never had a problem with the stuff...no more than any other stuff. Then again, I also fire a lot of surplus stuff too and bulk buy stuff that my NFA buddies buy to shoot through their MGs.

9mm, 45 ACP, .22, 8mm, .30 carbine, 5.56, and 7.62x39.

Never had a problem.

As to corrosive and non-corrosive...

Its all corrosive, some of it more so than others. You leave a gun fouled with "non-corrosive" for a year and it'll pit.

[ed316]

Yep. Fired plenty of Wolf and other surplus. Never had a problem.

[American Patriot]

the polymer will melt and cause stuck cases if you're shooting A LOT of rounds

[Roaming East]

well not in a G3 it wont. That thing could extract blood from a turnip.

[Durandal]

the polymer will melt and cause stuck cases if you're shooting A LOT of rounds

That was more of a problem with the enamel/varnish coated stuff. The polymer stuff doesn't really seem to have that problem...and I am talking NFA weapons with a high rate of fire.

[California Joe]

Walk it off pussies.

Try burning some black powder and then talk to me about cleaning and stench levels. :)

[Durandal]

Walk it off pussies.

Try burning some black powder and then talk to me about cleaning and stench levels. :)

rofl rofl rofl

Too true...

[Ezekiel25:17]

I shoot for fun not competition and i clean my guns after every session. 100 yards at man size target with surplus ammo is good to go. When they start making bullets that don't leave residue then I'll be anal about what rounds I put in me guns.

[HOLLiS]

rofl rofl rofl

Too true...



2 Xs.............. rofl rofl rofl

[StevePerryRockstar]

I've got an old Yugo SKS and I use Wolf ammo to the exclusion of everything else. You can't beat the price, yes it's cheap ComBloc crap, but it's also a cheap ComBloc rifle designed to run cheap crap. I wouldn't run Wolf ammo through an AR or a handgun. But it works for what it was designed for.

The sustained-fire rotten-egg smell is a bit annoying, though.


I liken it to that burn't piss smell.
I've only had two misfires out of 100 with wolf. Is that bad? :roll:

[HOLLiS]

I liken it to that burn't piss smell.
I've only had two misfires out of 100 with wolf. Is that bad? :roll:

2% is not good. in fact very bad

[sct1886]

Wolf 7.62x39mm works fine in any weapon in the SKS or AK family. The AK/SKS has a very positive and or strong ejection cycle. Wolf started coating the cases with a polymer coating because so many oafs were too lazy or stupid to properly clean the chamber of thier AK or SKS. (shellac built up) The .45 auto works great, but is dirty. That being said I would not bother to purchase any steel case in other calibers in quanity. Most other weapons chambers are too tight to reliably function with it. I never buy large quanities of ammo without checking it...