Kill Mom But Don't Hurt TV, Teen Tells Hitman

[NcDeuce]

Kill Mom But Don't Hurt TV, Teen Tells Hitman

MIAMI (*******) - A Florida teen charged with hiring an undercover policeman to shoot and kill his mother instructed the purported hitman not to damage the family television during the attack, police said on Thursday.



Police in the southwestern Florida city of Fort Myers arrested the boy, 17-year-old Carlos Chereza, on Tuesday on a charge of soliciting to commit first-degree murder.


Tipped by an informant that Chereza had offered to pay to have his mother killed, an undercover detective posed as someone willing to do the job, Fort Myers police said.


Chereza offered the detective $2,000 that he expected to inherit from his mother's bank account, and gave him the keys to the family apartment, a map of the apartment and a picture of his mother, the police report said. He asked that the shooting be made to look like a burglary, it said.


"Carlos stated that he didn't want anything to happen to the television," the detective wrote in the arrest report.


Police arrested the teen immediately after the meeting with the detective, and the mother was unharmed. Police spokeswoman Kara Winton said the motive was related to domestic problems within the family, but declined to elaborate.

Someone is going to get grounded.

[UkrainianAmerican]

WOW, what the F*CK is wrong with him?

[Uncle Sam]

WOW, what the F*CK is wrong with him?

No Father...

[Fintin]

well atleast he has his prioritys stright....i think i read this wrong...whats wrong with our society......

[Midtown]

Haha, kids are stupid I hate them.

[Tengu]

Haha, kids are stupid I hate them. rofl

[Skaman]

Someone needs to start a social criticism movement in the United States focusing on youth, morality, and the break-up of the family unit. Articles like this make me sick.

[Fox2]

Yeah, because we all know it's only the United States with these problems, right guys? Right? Guys?

[Beowulf]

Someone needs to start a social criticism movement in the United States focusing on youth, morality, and the break-up of the family unit. Articles like this make me sick.

Someone has, his name is George W. Bush

Other notable contributors are the editors at National Review, and of course O'reilly, Limbaugh, and Coulter. :D

[HELEX]

Other notable contributors are the editors at National Review, and of course O'reilly, Limbaugh, and Coulter.

rofl

Nice one...

Btw. do you like my new avatar? :lol:

[Skaman]

Yeah, because we all know it's only the United States with these problems, right guys? Right? Guys?

Of course not, but predominately these occurrences are within the United States.

[Beowulf]

Other notable contributors are the editors at National Review, and of course O'reilly, Limbaugh, and Coulter.

rofl

Nice one...

Btw. do you like my new avatar? :lol:

yeah makes me think of Animal farm :)

[Uncle Sam]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/6171102740803ee0b3351.jpg
Btw. do you like my new avatar? :lol:

That one suits you so much more than the last one...

[memphiz]

Kill Mom But Don't Hurt TV, Teen Tells Hitman

MIAMI (*******) - A Florida teen charged with hiring an undercover policeman to shoot and kill his mother instructed the purported hitman not to damage the family television during the attack, police said on Thursday.



Police in the southwestern Florida city of Fort Myers arrested the boy, 17-year-old Carlos Chereza, on Tuesday on a charge of soliciting to commit first-degree murder.


Tipped by an informant that Chereza had offered to pay to have his mother killed, an undercover detective posed as someone willing to do the job, Fort Myers police said.


Chereza offered the detective $2,000 that he expected to inherit from his mother's bank account, and gave him the keys to the family apartment, a map of the apartment and a picture of his mother, the police report said. He asked that the shooting be made to look like a burglary, it said.


"Carlos stated that he didn't want anything to happen to the television," the detective wrote in the arrest report.


Police arrested the teen immediately after the meeting with the detective, and the mother was unharmed. Police spokeswoman Kara Winton said the motive was related to domestic problems within the family, but declined to elaborate.

Someone is going to get grounded.
i dont know about the laws down there but...under the young offenders act in Canada a youths(under 18) name is not to be released to the media

[Rilence]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/avatars/6171102740803ee0b3351.jpg
Btw. do you like my new avatar? :lol:

That one suits you so much more than the last one...
oh yes it does indead :P

[UkrainianAmerican]

WOW, what the F*CK is wrong with him?

No Father...
My parents divorced when I was 5. I dont go around hiring hitmen to kill my family memebers. :D
Not an excuse.

[Brozozo]

Don't hurt the TV? WTF?

[Flagg]

Putting a contract out on your own mother........

Sounds like things are getting a bit Lord Of The Flies-ish in Florida.

If whacking your parents becomes the next "it" thing to do...I expect contract killing to be a growth industry for the upcoming holiday season.

[Fox2]

I expect contract killing to be a growth industry for the upcoming holiday season.

Look, kids! It's Shoot Me Elmo!

Kids: RIGHTEOUSNESS!

[basket of soft kittens]

so the t.v.'s ok right? :)

[Gauntlet]

The problem with kids living with only mothers is that a man by human culture is considered the top and is giving respected authority. Like it or not ladies, things are like that.
I admit that some women are great leaders but if they're all whine and scream then they just become annoying, even if they're a parent.

There needs to be fathers to preserve order. Fathers that'll slap that kid for Pre-School to High School.

[UkrainianAmerican]

The problem with kids living with only mothers is that a man by human culture is considered the top and is giving respected authority. Like it or not ladies, things are like that.
I admit that some women are great leaders but if they're all whine and scream then they just become annoying, even if they're a parent.

There needs to be fathers to preserve order. Fathers that'll slap that kid for Pre-School to High School.
Yeah agreed, wothout a step-father, I would prolly endup a mamas boy living in my moms basement at 30. :lol:

[Vance]

Someone needs to start a social criticism movement in the United States focusing on youth, morality, and the break-up of the family unit. Articles like this make me sick.
Someone needs to start a social critisism movement in Canada focusing on eliminating pussies like you.



OOoooooburn. :roll:

[Gauntlet]

Someone needs to start a social criticism movement in the United States focusing on youth, morality, and the break-up of the family unit. Articles like this make me sick.
Someone needs to start a social critisism movement in Canada focusing on eliminating pussies like you.



OOoooooburn. :roll:

But his idea prevents pussies... so whats the deal? :|

[Vance]

Wasn't really talking about his idea... :D

[Ratamacue]

Yeah, because we all know it's only the United States with these problems, right guys? Right? Guys?

Of course not, but predominately these occurrences are within the United States.

Look out guys, American imperialism is going to corrupt the world with children hiring hitmen to kill their parents now.

[Romulus]

Yeah agreed, wothout a step-father, I would prolly endup a mamas boy living in my moms basement at 30.

Agreed. Screw the PC thing to do and talk to a kid when he doesn't listen. Break out the old belt like my step-dad use to, that'll learn em. :bash:

Only thing some kids understand. An ass beating.

[oldsoak]

You will always get a nutter in any society anywhere. Fortunately theres a lot of decent folks as well. Thankfully practically all the yanks I've met fall into the decent neighbour category. As an aside, I feel for for that poor woman - imagine knowing the child you bore has put a contract out on you. :(

[Uncle Sam]

WOW, what the F*CK is wrong with him?

No Father...
My parents divorced when I was 5. I dont go around hiring hitmen to kill my family memebers. :D
Not an excuse.

You're one of the lucky ones, man...You're one of the lucky ones...*runs away sobbing*

I didn't mean everyone who grew up without a father will hire hitmen to kill their mothers. The boy has issues!

[UkrainianAmerican]

Yeah agreed, wothout a step-father, I would prolly endup a mamas boy living in my moms basement at 30.

Agreed. Screw the PC thing to do and talk to a kid when he doesn't listen. Break out the old belt like my step-dad use to, that'll learn em. :bash:

Only thing some kids understand. An ass beating.
Couldnt agree more with you. I really find it ridiculous that it is ILLEGAL for parents to implement corporal punishment moderately (no black eyes, but a nass-spankings with a belt are allright)

[Tane Angle]

Hitting a child is not acceptable. Almost always, the only thing it accomplishes is training another person to abuse those weaker than them.

[Haiw]

Whether it's acceptable or not, does it really have a point? Sure, it can show a child that something is unacceptable, but there's other ways to show something is unacceptable. I know this sounds awfully stereotype liberal leftie, but 'teaching kids at a young age that violence is the solution is not the way to go'.

[Fintin]

Hitting a child is not acceptable.

exactly you have to lock them in a small metal box in the sun.....worked great for me...

[memphiz]

Hitting a child is not acceptable. Almost always, the only thing it accomplishes is training another person to abuse those weaker than them.
have you seen that dairy queen comercial where the baby kicks the guy in the groin and head butts him.
2 words-corporal punishment






(j/k) i dont mean that. funny comercial though

i was never 'spanked' or had corporal punishment inflicted on me and i turned out fine

[Ratamacue]

I was never given physical punishment for anything, and I can't see myself doing so to my children.

[Romulus]

Funny, I could have almost predicted the ones who'd come here and say "Spanking is wrong, teaching kids violence is not the way to go". Raise your own damn kids and leave the parenting to the pros. It's funny these are the same people who I see when their kid reaches the teen years and are smacking the parents around and stealing cash outta their momma purse.

[Ratamacue]

Funny, I could have almost predicted the ones who'd come here and say "Spanking is wrong, teaching kids violence is not the way to go". Raise your own damn kids and leave the parenting to the pros. It's funny these are the same people who I see when their kid reaches the teen years and are smacking the parents around and stealing cash outta their momma purse.

Are you a parent? Tane is. Maybe you should consider that physical punishment is not always appropriate for teaching right from wrong.

[Romulus]

Are you a parent? Tane is. Maybe you should consider that physical punishment is not always appropriate for teaching right from wrong.

I sure am.

[Fintin]

my rents tried physical punishment...but when the belt came out i would just run outside and climb a tree till they gave up....then they tried soap in the mouth....that ended when i just chewed it like it was candy....then hot sause....bring on the spicy food got used to that.....grounding only caused me to sneek out...i just stole back what they took away...eventualy they just let me run pritty wild....wound up pritty centered....personaly i think its the way to go...give a kid some room to screw up and they will end up where they should be in the end for the most part

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

my rents tried physical punishment...but when the belt came out i would just run outside and climb a tree till they gave up....then they tried soap in the mouth....that ended when i just chewed it like it was candy....then hot sause....bring on the spicy food got used to that.....grounding only caused me to sneek out...i just stole back what they took away...eventualy they just let me run pritty wild....wound up pritty centered....personaly i think its the way to go...give a kid some room to screw up and they will end up where they should be in the end for the most part

Yup I had two major rules during childhood.

1, Make it home eventually (alive preffered...morning noon or night it doesnt matter)

2, If I get in trouble dont get caught, if I do dont call my dad to bail me out.

[memphiz]

Funny, I could have almost predicted the ones who'd come here and say "Spanking is wrong, teaching kids violence is not the way to go". Raise your own damn kids and leave the parenting to the pros. It's funny these are the same people who I see when their kid reaches the teen years and are smacking the parents around and stealing cash outta their momma purse.
i didnt say it was bad, some kids need it to straighten them out, some kids are to damn hyper

[Flagg]

Hitting a child is not acceptable. Almost always, the only thing it accomplishes is training another person to abuse those weaker than them.

Tane...although I accept the fact you are a parent(I think I remember reading that here somewhere?) and likely have heaps more experience with kids than I do......

I can't help but disagree(although I certainly don't think BEATING children is acceptable).....

If I hadn't been slapped around by nuns, priests, Franciscan Brothers, and my parents.....I'd likely be doing or already have done very naughty things.

The older I get, the more I think learning about risk/reward is VERY important.

The RISK of getting caught and the punishment it will entail should be so high as to negate even considering the illicit reward.

And since we learn much from our experiences, I reckon anyone who goes through life WITHOUT having experienced the immediate sting of punishment....may run into potential trouble down the round....I think better to learn the most valuable lessons EARLY(corporal punishment), when the consequences are relatively minor, than when it's too late.

Same issues way down here with kids/adolescents........

When I grew up.....there were lines that were NEVER crossed.....in Catholic school we didn't fear God......we feared the staff, and our parents.

Now I see the same lines getting crossed...and I can't help but think a bit of "old school" wouldn't hurt.....cause the
"new school" doesn't seem to be working so well......or maybe I'm just getting old(er).

[mocking_loudly_died]

No kids please, the smelly runts should be in jail till they are 18.

[Flagg]

No kids please, the smelly runts should be in jail till they are 18

It's called Catholic School....or for you non-Catholics.....boarding school

[Haiw]

Come on, you can raise a kid without corporal punishment. Just for example, take away the things he likes. If he wants to play football outside, keep him in the house. If he wants to go on the computer, don't allow him to (power supply calbe anyone? :P), if he wants to look tv, don't allow him to. Etc. Works just as fine...what it's all about is just putting some negative consequence to his action. Now what's the use of beating your kids up apart from maybe making them more aggressive or putting them on a path of violence.
Besides, all the pro-hitters say that 'the other way' has failed...but, how can we be sure they were even raised 'the other way'. I also think that most of the kids that go wrong aren't raised the wrong way, they just ain't raised at all. They were never punished in any way, whether peacefully or violently, there was never anyone around to raise them, and THAT's what seriously screws someone up.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Come on, you can raise a kid without corporal punishment. Just for example, take away the things he likes. If he wants to play football outside, keep him in the house. If he wants to go on the computer, don't allow him to (power supply calbe anyone? :P), if he wants to look tv, don't allow him to. Etc. Works just as fine...what it's all about is just putting some negative consequence to his action. Now what's the use of beating your kids up apart from maybe making them more aggressive or putting them on a path of violence.
Besides, all the pro-hitters say that 'the other way' has failed...but, how can we be sure they were even raised 'the other way'. I also think that most of the kids that go wrong aren't raised the wrong way, they just ain't raised at all. They were never punished in any way, whether peacefully or violently, there was never anyone around to raise them, and THAT's what seriously screws someone up.
Hmm, you might have a point.

[California Joe]

The problem with kids living with only mothers is that a man by human culture is considered the top and is giving respected authority. Like it or not ladies, things are like that.
I admit that some women are great leaders but if they're all whine and scream then they just become annoying, even if they're a parent.

There needs to be fathers to preserve order. Fathers that'll slap that kid for Pre-School to High School.

Pretty broad generalization there junior. Farmgirl is a widow and does a hell of a good job with her kids, as well as controlling high school kids in her classes on a daily basis. Tane is right as far as I'm concerned, I did spank my kids under extreme circumstances when they were little, like when they repeatedly try to stick fingers in light sockets etc. It's done for pure shock value and to make a point you can't explain to a 2 year old. If you don't learn to control your kids without hitting them then you've got communication failure. My kids certainly aren't perfect but they know when I'm serious about something.

Now excuse me while I check my gun locks and hide my ammo and buy them lots of ice cream. ;)

[Hellman109]

WOW, what the F*CK is wrong with him?

No Father...

Dont say retarded stuff like that please, it only shows your own ignorance more then anything.

[oldsoak]

Discipline is a hard thing. My Dad whacked me when I was growing up and I can truthfully say I deserved every smack on the backside I got. He did it there and then and it was over. In later years he told me he hated doing it but he felt that a short sharp shock was a lot better 'cause it was done and dusted and forgotten about. Those of us who are blessed with loving parents find the behavious of this muderous little idiot just plain incomprehensible. Now WTF do we do with him ?

[farmgirl]

The problem with kids living with only mothers is that a man by human culture is considered the top and is giving respected authority. Like it or not ladies, things are like that.
I admit that some women are great leaders but if they're all whine and scream then they just become annoying, even if they're a parent.

There needs to be fathers to preserve order. Fathers that'll slap that kid for Pre-School to High School.

Pretty broad generalization there junior. Farmgirl is a widow and does a hell of a good job with her kids, as well as controlling high school kids in her classes on a daily basis. Tane is right as far as I'm concerned, I did spank my kids under extreme circumstances when they were little, like when they repeatedly try to stick fingers in light sockets etc. It's done for pure shock value and to make a point you can't explain to a 2 year old. If you don't learn to control your kids without hitting them then you've got communication failure. My kids certainly aren't perfect but they know when I'm serious about something.

Now excuse me while I check my gun locks and hide my ammo and buy them lots of ice cream. ;)


Thank you, Joe. I would tend to agree that children need both fathers and mothers in their lives, and unbroken homes are better. However, as we all know, that isn't always possible. I do my best with my children, and I'm sure I don't always do the right thing. I do hope that no matter what... they always know that they are my #1 priority, and I love them more than anything. I have spanked my children, but it was often for matters regarding their safety. A smack on the hand to keep them from burning themselves... that sort of thing. Beating is never okay. I do feel that spanking can be okay... given the right circumstances.

As for kids at school.... they are no problem at all. I don't fear them, so they do as I say. The teachers who show fear might as well hang it up. The kids make their lives miserable.

[UkrainianAmerican]

I am no big expert, but if you are a single mother, you should be as reasonably tough as possible on your kids (not in a physical way necessarily)
They got to know what discipline is all about.
Cuz if they dont, by the time they reach 15, they are gonna be potheads.
And I know a lotta people like that.

[UkrainianAmerican]

[As for kids at school.... they are no problem at all. I don't fear them, so they do as I say. The teachers who show fear might as well hang it up. The kids make their lives miserable.
Yeah couldnt agree more with you. Teachers who show fear or lack of confidence, absolutely loose any chance of keeping order in the classroom.

[farmgirl]

I am no big expert, but if you are a single mother, you should be as reasonably tough as possible on your kids (not in a physical way necessarily)
They got to know what discipline is all about.
Cuz if they dont, by the time they reach 15, they are gonna be potheads.
And I know a lotta people like that.

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
It was rough for a couple of years after my husband's accident, but we're hanging in there. :D

[Jack Mehoff]

My wife spanks me when I'm naughty. :(

[Haiw]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.

[farmgirl]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.

Trust me... I'd know. She's not away from me enough at this point to get away with anything, and I teach at her school. We live in a small community. I know which kids at school are involved in drugs... I know which ones drink... I know which ones are having ***..... kids forget that teachers are around sometimes.... we know a lot more than you think we do..... ;)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.

Trust me... I'd know. She's not away from me enough at this point to get away with anything, and I teach at her school. We live in a small community. I know which kids at school are involved in drugs... I know which ones drink... I know which ones are having ***..... kids forget that teachers are around sometimes.... we know a lot more than you think we do..... ;)
:| *completely terrified*
Good thing most of my teachers dont know the College I am going to next yeat.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.
Well if shes a regular user, someone who spends a lot of time with kids (like farmgirl) would probably notice some suspicious behavior changes. Strange money spending patterns, school problems, shorter attention span, etc.

[Jack Mehoff]

farmgirl lives in Hickville City, Iowa where everyone in her town knows everyone in her town. It's not hard for her to find out if her kids hanging out with potheads.

[UkrainianAmerican]

farmgirl lives in Hickville City, Iowa where everyone in her town knows everyone in her town. It's not hard for her to find out if her kids hanging out with potheads.
Yeah, hehe, good point.
Ooh boy, thank god I dont live at a town like that. :lol:

[farmgirl]

farmgirl lives in Hickville City, Iowa where everyone in her town knows everyone in her town. It's not hard for her to find out if her kids hanging out with potheads.


so true, Jack.... one of the many reasons I like it here.... ;)

There isn't a stoplight in the entire county..... :D

[Haiw]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.
Well if shes a regular user, someone who spends a lot of time with kids (like farmgirl) would probably notice some suspicious behavior changes. Strange money spending patterns, school problems, shorter attention span, etc.
True, you might notice at a really active user, but say, for example someone who uses only 2-3 times a month...or someone who only does it at (birthday) parties. Small chance that you find out.

[farmgirl]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.
Well if shes a regular user, someone who spends a lot of time with kids (like farmgirl) would probably notice some suspicious behavior changes. Strange money spending patterns, school problems, shorter attention span, etc.
True, you might notice at a really active user, but say, for example someone who uses only 2-3 times a month...or someone who only does it at (birthday) parties. Small chance that you find out.

That might be true, but since I don't let her out of my sight. I don't have to worry about it. p-)

[Jack Mehoff]

I bet farmgirl is pretty good at spanking, you know for being a single mother and all.

[California Joe]

she is. p-)

Why does Haiw want your daughter to be a pothead so badly farmgirl?

[farmgirl]

she is. p-)

Why does Haiw want your daughter to be a pothead so badly farmgirl?


:cantbeli: nice Joe....


I don't know.... maybe he's looking to sell some to her? p-)

[California Joe]

I suspect you're right. You can tell by his shifty eyes and the cookie crumbs on his shirt.

[memphiz]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.

Trust me... I'd know. She's not away from me enough at this point to get away with anything, and I teach at her school. We live in a small community. I know which kids at school are involved in drugs... I know which ones drink... I know which ones are having ***..... kids forget that teachers are around sometimes.... we know a lot more than you think we do..... ;)
thats the scariest thing in the world, kinda the same were i used to live, ,i had to be very carefull what i did (super sneaky) because everyone new/ or parents worked for my dad, scary stuff

[UkrainianAmerican]

Trust me.... I'm in charge at my house and in my classroom. My daughter is 15, and she's not a pothead, so I guess I'm doing okay. ;)
No offense, but even if she was, unless she's a die-hard junkie you propably wouldn't know. Just my personal experience.
Well if shes a regular user, someone who spends a lot of time with kids (like farmgirl) would probably notice some suspicious behavior changes. Strange money spending patterns, school problems, shorter attention span, etc.
True, you might notice at a really active user, but say, for example someone who uses only 2-3 times a month...or someone who only does it at (birthday) parties. Small chance that you find out.
Well lets get real. If you do it at birthday parties,or even once a month chances are it does significantly less harm to you, then smoking regular cigarettes. It becomes are PROBLEM when you do it frequently and spend significant amount of time and money on it.

[Haiw]

Nah, I don't wanna sell anything. I just wanna make her drug-addicted so I can take cheap advantage of her. Then I'll get her as far as to make me farmgirls son-in-law. And that...would bring me closer to her than any of you. MUHAHHA.

Okay, in all seriousness... I'm Dutch... I know about these kind of things. ;) That's why I give my 2 cents. :P

[UkrainianAmerican]

Nah, I don't wanna sell anything. I just wanna make her drug-addicted so I can take cheap advantage of her. Then I'll get her as far as to make me farmgirls son-in-law. And that...would bring me closer to her than any of you. MUHAHHA.

Okay, in all seriousness... I'm Dutch... I know about these kind of things. ;) That's why I give my 2 cents. :P
In this country this is called DATE-RAPE. :bash:

[Jack Mehoff]

farmgirl promised that she would introduce me to her daughter when she turns 18.

[Haiw]

Well lets get real. If you do it at birthday parties,or even once a month chances are it does significantly less harm to you, then smoking regular cigarettes. It becomes are PROBLEM when you do it frequently and spend significant amount of time and money on it.
Well that's just the start. But after that it's pretty easy to expand 'secret activities'. It's not like it can't be done.

[farmgirl]

Nah, I don't wanna sell anything. I just wanna make her drug-addicted so I can take cheap advantage of her. Then I'll get her as far as to make me farmgirls son-in-law. And that...would bring me closer to her than any of you. MUHAHHA.

Okay, in all seriousness... I'm Dutch... I know about these kind of things. ;) That's why I give my 2 cents. :P

rofl You kill me, Haiw. ;) (but if you take advantage of my daughter... the fun is over.... James is teaching me to shoot you know!!! p-) )

[UkrainianAmerican]

Well lets get real. If you do it at birthday parties,or even once a month chances are it does significantly less harm to you, then smoking regular cigarettes. It becomes are PROBLEM when you do it frequently and spend significant amount of time and money on it.
Well that's just the start. But after that it's pretty easy to expand 'secret activities'. It's not like it can't be done.
Well 2 years ago, thats pretty much what i was doing. Then i got tired on wasting my HARD-EARNED $$$ on this BS, and stopped.
And that was that.

[memphiz]

Nah, I don't wanna sell anything. I just wanna make her drug-addicted so I can take cheap advantage of her. Then I'll get her as far as to make me farmgirls son-in-law. And that...would bring me closer to her than any of you. MUHAHHA.

Okay, in all seriousness... I'm Dutch... I know about these kind of things. ;) That's why I give my 2 cents. :P
HAHA once again Haiw i am closer to her :P i say it would be atleast a whole days drive from here to Iowa, then i would use my 'Canadian charm' and wed into the farmgirl family, i could work on a farm im part Ukrainian and i live in Alberta :D




(this is a joke ;) i dont want James to shoot me)

[Haiw]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.

[memphiz]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.
Bring it on Mister shoes made of wood.

[UkrainianAmerican]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.
Bring it on Mister shoes made of wood.
Yeah, I my get mah Timz to counter your wooden ****. I am not interested in 15 yeqarolds, but i will fight on memphiz's side cuz he can draw.

[Gauntlet]

[As for kids at school.... they are no problem at all. I don't fear them, so they do as I say. The teachers who show fear might as well hang it up. The kids make their lives miserable.
Yeah couldnt agree more with you. Teachers who show fear or lack of confidence, absolutely loose any chance of keeping order in the classroom.

I know this was a few posts ago but Confidence towards teachers helps a whole lot.

There's a sub-teacher in my school that can put order into the class within less than 5 minutes! :cantbeli:
Subs are known to have the least authority and lose control at the slightest disturbance. Not this man. When he walked in he lectured us like a Marine without even raising his voice. Everyone in the class was wide-eyed with fear. Whipped out the vocabulary on his lecture and when a kid asked what a word meant he simply pointed to the dictionary.
One kid acted up. Apparently he had a "McNabb" Football jersey. He was sent to the hallway to write a letter of apology and when he turned in the letter the teacher said, "You are about as worthless as McNabb"
That boy probably cried himself to sleep that night and never got smart with a teacher again.
Thats what America needs!

[Haiw]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.
Bring it on Mister shoes made of wood.
Forget it... scratch wooden shoes... I present you:
Wooden BOOTS.

I am so gonna kick yer ass now.

[Universal]

WOW, what the F*CK is wrong with him?

No Father...
My parents divorced when I was 5. I dont go around hiring hitmen to kill my family memebers. :D
Not an excuse.

no, but I think your family members are hiring hitmen to get rid of you. rofl

[Fox2]

I thought Universal went out with Soulhunter? Damn. :P

[memphiz]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.
Bring it on Mister shoes made of wood.
Forget it... scratch wooden shoes... I present you:
Wooden BOOTS.

I am so gonna kick yer ass now.
hmm well i got Jamaican snow shoes (molson beer comercial) bring it on

[UkrainianAmerican]

WOW, what the F*CK is wrong with him?

No Father...
My parents divorced when I was 5. I dont go around hiring hitmen to kill my family memebers. :D
Not an excuse.

no, but I think your family members are hiring hitmen to get rid of you. rofl
Naa. I am loved. woot

[Haiw]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.
Bring it on Mister shoes made of wood.
Forget it... scratch wooden shoes... I present you:
Wooden BOOTS.

I am so gonna kick yer ass now.
hmm well i got Jamaican snow shoes (molson beer comercial) bring it on
What are we talking about...I mean, I'm pushing Nederwiet. There's no way you can outclass my Dutch uberpot. :P

[Hydro]

My moneys firmly resting on Haiw. (What can I say, I like the Dutch). Kick his ass, boy! :)

[memphiz]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.
Bring it on Mister shoes made of wood.
Forget it... scratch wooden shoes... I present you:
Wooden BOOTS.

I am so gonna kick yer ass now.
hmm well i got Jamaican snow shoes (molson beer comercial) bring it on
What are we talking about...I mean, I'm pushing Nederwiet. There's no way you can outclass my Dutch uberpot. :P
i could kick you in the stones with a snow shoe and it would hurt alot more

[Universal]

I thought Universal went out with Soulhunter? Damn. :P

ahhh... did you miss me fox2? :(
then take this :fork:

[Fox2]

ahhh... did you miss me fox2? :(
then take this :fork:

rofl

[Haiw]

You wanna fight tough guy? Her daughter is mine... you go deal your drugs somewhere else damnit.
Bring it on Mister shoes made of wood.
Forget it... scratch wooden shoes... I present you:
Wooden BOOTS.

I am so gonna kick yer ass now.
hmm well i got Jamaican snow shoes (molson beer comercial) bring it on
What are we talking about...I mean, I'm pushing Nederwiet. There's no way you can outclass my Dutch uberpot. :P
i could kick you in the stones with a snow shoe and it would hurt alot more
Too bad there's no snow here so your snow shoes are pretty useless. Just give up man...just let us Dutchies colonize.