Is this a board for amateurs?

[CottonTail]

the longer I stay on this board, the more convinced I am that most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces, let alone seen combat. most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials.

[Uncle Sam]

Thanks for your opinion...

[NcDeuce]

^, Tane, Beo, Deut to name a few.

[Ratamacue]

Just curious, but what's with all the asshole know-it-alls that have been arriving in like the friggin' past week here?

[Red]

Just curious, but what's with all the asshole know-it-alls that have been arriving in like the friggin' past week here?
well but come to think of it he has a point,there are some guys who post on here from the underside of their brains.

[memphiz]

Just curious, but what's with all the asshole know-it-alls that have been arriving in like the friggin' past week here?
Word^ , to many whiny bitches

[Haiw]

Where are the days when someone would just lurk for a few months to figure everyone out before posting? :( That's the least you can do when signing up as a new member... :|

[memphiz]

mabey you should leave cottontail,


WARNING!! VERY VERY VIOLENT!!
NOT FOR PEOPLE WITH WEAK HEARTH!!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6010.htm

Yes. George W. Bush can be very proud. All US soldiers too.collateral damages, happens in all conflicts. get used to it, and learn your lesson, DONT EVER MESS WITH US!
your sick both of you

[Fintin]

i thought this was a ping pong site...sorry my bad :oops:

[Uncle Sam]

Where are the days when someone would just lurk for a few months to figure everyone out before posting? :( That's the least you can do when signing up as a new member... :|

And post in the wrong section...

[Seoulstriker]

it doesn't take someone who has been in the military to:

1) write about international politics
2) comment on photos
3) identify weapons, badges, units, etc
4) talk to people who have been in the military.

[Uncle Sam]

This is pointless.

[American Patriot]

What ever do you mean?

[shrek]

Sorry, have to agree, haven't been here long and this site has gone to hell in a handbasket. Not really fun anymore with people like HELEX and others around.

[catchv22]

It's not fun when people start flaming each other for other people's opinions... I don't mind that anyone says what they have to say, it's just when they don't shut up about it... or do it just to start something...

[ibstolidude]

Sorry, have to agree, haven't been here long and this site has gone to hell in a handbasket. Not really fun anymore with people like HELEX and others around.
I don't know. It was always come and goes in cycles. None the less, I for one liked your counter-insurgency, counter-propaganda campaign. Perhaps when we have a chance Beo and the rest of us need to conduct another "sweep and clean" of some of the less than IAW rules posts.



If people see anything specific please PM.

[Fintin]

im sticking to i thought this was all about ping pong.....we should have a group pong game....anyone up for it?

[Ichhabe]

Cotton Tail said:


the longer I stay on this board, the more convinced I am that most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces,

To be honest, I don't know how long you have been lurking on this forum. But for me, I did some lurking for about 2-3 months before I signed up.

Because of that, I was able to see who was who and whom to listen to. That also learned me whom to avoid.

Of course most of the members here are non-military. You see, many of them are to young to be in the military, unless they live in Sierra Leone.
But many of them is thinking about joining. Hey! We may even have made someone that thought of joining the military to let it be. Because they may have learned in here that the amy life isn't for them. But that we may never learn.


let alone seen combat.

Remember, there are more people in the armises of the world that haven't seen combat either, than there are soldiers who have. :)


most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials.

Pfffffft. Don't take yourself to serious.
I'm in here for the good debates and discussions. And I mean the good.
When I first joined in here, it was because I wanted to share some photos. And my main stay was for browsing the photo section to read good comments, funny comments, give good comments and some snappy ones. Or to say it short & sweet: for having a good time. I still do have a good time, but there has been some ups & down lately. But as any storm, it will pass.

I hope I will enjoy this forum for the years to come. And never take myself to serious aswell.

[army cadet_ngcsu]

If people would lay off of the I hate Serbs and Albanians or the personal insults it would not be that bad. But at times some people can say some stupid as ****, not that I am not one of them, but still...

[Fintin]

i hate tennis and their we are bigger and better...ping pong is friggin hard so back off

[CannibalSquirel]

First of all - what the hell is this topic doing in the "photo/video" section?

Cotton Tail, I uderstand your point, but, if you want a forum only for the guys you served in the military go talk to the administradors, don´t cry about it. That´s not a good attitude.

I´m convinced... no, I´m sure, that many people who didn´t served in the military can produce better and more topics/replys then some other guys. Hell, I myself know some of them. Of course they wouldn´t know what is to be under fire, but face it, neither some of the guys who served. Not everyone goes to Iraq or Afganistan.

You don´t need to have been in the military to read, to investigate, to know things, and to be smart. Jez, I know civilian guys who know more about the Chipmunk than me. And God, I flew them!

The thing is, If everyone tought like you, then the only guys able to comment the, let´s say, Somali operation were the Rangers, Deltas and SOAR who where there. That´s a ****y point.
I think everyone is in it´s rigth to give his opinion, for more absurd that it can be. And, of course, if that opinion ir really ****, then I´m sure that the others here, will be there to "teach him a lesson". :backhand:

PS...
Yeah, before somenone begins to question my post, yes, I´ve served in the military. I flew with the Portuguese Air Force - mainly in the ChipMunk - that old rat... p-)

[droopy]

the longer I stay on this board, the more convinced I am that most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces, let alone seen combat. most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials.

I don`t think that any real soldier would sit in front of a PC and talk/post on a military photos web site.That would be the last thing i wouldo if i were a soldier :roll:

[CX20]

the longer I stay on this board, the more convinced I am that most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces, let alone seen combat. most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials.

I see so far that people have taken his comments to the extreme or twisted them out of context (either deliberately or not) but I'm afraid that I agree with him.

If you look at his statement without getting all emotional and offended straight away, you see it makes sense.

"most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces" - What he said here was MOST not all. So far several people have already replied trying to make out he meant all. However when you look at this factually he is correct, the BTDT / wannabe ratio on this board is heavily stacked in favour of the wannabes. We do have a fair few BTDTs, but they are few in number compared to the wannabes and the kids in this forum.

"most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials." - Yet again MOST not all. The truth is, he is 100% spot on with this statement. People do indeed post a great deal of first hand or linked factual materials, but they pale in numerical significance with the posts I've read with, for example, "Delta use xxxxxxxxx because I say so" or "I know SEALs use this weapon because my friend read it in a book".

You just have to look at what he's saying from the stand point of someone who might visit this forum from the outside. So far everyone seems to have been immediately offended and replied with the aim of flaming or "having a go". When you look at what he's saying and compare it to how the forum actually is, I'm afraid his statement is correct, whether you agree with/like it's author or not.

[Herrmannek]

the longer I stay on this board, the more convinced I am that most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces, let alone seen combat. most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials.

So what? I like it like it is, if you want profesional forums try google. You will find thousands of that crapy super professional sites...This is social forum, with great BTDT wich can be asked about virtualy everything and they will give you answers...Our problem aren't people wh didn't served but people who think they know better

[ikurinturbiini]

I've served, and I'm an amateur. What's the problem?

Maybe a poll is in place here. My guess is that 99% of Forum Finns have served or are about to. We're still Sunday Soldiers, reservists or peacekeepers at best/worst (any hardcore regulars excluded). I mean, what does "seeing action" mean to you? Is it "seeing action" if you sit in a truck and hear gunshots? Or drive in a convoy and somewhere far ahead someone's vehicle hits a mine? Or should one have a confirmed kill to be allowed to discuss military matters?

Lighten up, Cotton Balls.

[CannibalSquirel]

CX20, sorry m8, but what I don´t understand in his statement is simple. Why the hell a guy who never served in the military is, by nature as far as he knows, a zero in military issues?

I must say that I met some ****ing ignorant people in the military, when I served, that didn´t knew as half as some of my civilians friends. My point is: you don´t need to be in the military ( or to have served ) to know things, to discusse military issues and geo-estrategy, politics and ****.

That´s and ignorant statement. Sure it helps to have served. It´s a reason of proud ( at least for me it is ) but it´s not essential. The majority of my knowlege came from what I´ve read, investigated and asked in my civilian life.

Has I have already said, I understand your point guys, but I don´t agree with it. If you are civilian who never served doesn´t mean you´re an idiot in military issues. Actually in general, they are, but there are some fine exceptions. And that post is unfair to those guys.

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the longer I stay on this board, the more convinced I am that most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces, let alone seen combat. most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials.

I see so far that people have taken his comments to the extreme or twisted them out of context (either deliberately or not) but I'm afraid that I agree with him.

If you look at his statement without getting all emotional and offended straight away, you see it makes sense.

"most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces" - What he said here was MOST not all. So far several people have already replied trying to make out he meant all. However when you look at this factually he is correct, the BTDT / wannabe ratio on this board is heavily stacked in favour of the wannabes. We do have a fair few BTDTs, but they are few in number compared to the wannabes and the kids in this forum.

"most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials." - Yet again MOST not all. The truth is, he is 100% spot on with this statement. People do indeed post a great deal of first hand or linked factual materials, but they pale in numerical significance with the posts I've read with, for example, "Delta use xxxxxxxxx because I say so" or "I know SEALs use this weapon because my friend read it in a book".

You just have to look at what he's saying from the stand point of someone who might visit this forum from the outside. So far everyone seems to have been immediately offended and replied with the aim of flaming or "having a go". When you look at what he's saying and compare it to how the forum actually is, I'm afraid his statement is correct, whether you agree with/like it's author or not.

That all depends if you really think this is just a military site. Personally I think not, the vast majority of my posts are not about the military or what hardware they use, but about I.R., and debating IR is what I do as an occupation so I'm not a wannabe and I'm not clueless about my subject. and yet I'm not a BTDT.

[CX20]

CX20, sorry m8, but what I don´t understand in his statement is simple. Why the hell a guy who never served in the military is, by nature as far as he knows, a zero in military issues?

I must say that I met some f*** ignorant people in the military, when I served, that didn´t knew as half as some of my civilians friends. My point is: you don´t need to be in the military ( or to have served ) to know things, to discusse military issues and geo-estrategy, politics and ****.

That´s and ignorant statement. Sure it helps to have served. It´s a reason of proud ( at least for me it is ) but it´s not essential. The majority of my knowlege came from what I´ve read, investigated and asked in my civilian life.

Has I have already said, I understand your point guys, but I don´t agree with it. If you a civilian who never served doesn´t mean you´re an idiot in military issues. Actually in general, they are, but are some fine exceptions. And that post is unfair to those guys.

Hi, you see that's what I meant in my post. Everyone who has replied has taken it immediately out of context. You even took my whole post out of context, as the main point of your reply I didn't even say anything about in mine! Here's what I said;

"People do indeed post a great deal of first hand or linked factual materials, but they pale in numerical significance with the posts I've read with, for example, "Delta use xxxxxxxxx because I say so" or "I know SEALs use this weapon because my friend read it in a book"."

Not ANYWHERE in this example statement or in my post did I say that BTDTs know more than civilians, or vice versa. What I said was "People" meaning anyone and everyone who can back up their argument with true facts. Re-read what I said in my first post, but you just took it massively out of context and went off on a tangent about something I didn't even say. I don't know where you got that from, but it wasn't in my post.

Personally it's more ignorant to take someone's statement, then twist and contort it to your own means then it is just to hold an opposing view. But that's just my opinion!

[CannibalSquirel]

Admin, delete this please.

Tks :oops: :oops:

[CannibalSquirel]

Man, c´mom, did you read anything of what I have said?

Did you read this:

CX20, sorry m8, but what I don´t understand in his statement is simple.

And I will repeat it:

CX20, sorry m8, but what I don´t understand in his statement is simple.

I said what I don´t understand in HIS post. Not yours. What does this mean? It means that I was telling you what i think it´s not correct in his ( cottom tail) post. I never commented your post or your ideas. I sure agree that are some wannabes here.

Read first what I write god damm it...

[homerjsimpson94]

Where are the days when someone would just lurk for a few months to figure everyone out before posting? :( That's the least you can do when signing up as a new member... :|


Thats what I did , then I poseted some pics that i took.

[Javehn]

Is this a board for amateurs?

Offcorse it is , and from only pure military information place , and not all that political mumbo jumbo .

Just today i read about the same thing (about Mogadishu in 93) , one thread here , and one thread in another military forum . Reading the thread from this site makes one puke , it can offend someone but it's the fact . There was a thread here about a quality of information on this site , but the big guys didn't do much with that . Too bad , because this forum isn't exactly known for it's information , and the big guys should pay attention how this forum getting described in other more self respected forums (just to remind the tacticalfighter ) .

Why am i writting this ? Because the forum still have nice potential , and a nice form , and good guys that still writing here .
Personaly , if not my friend that writes here would convince me , i wouldn't come back to write here .

[BlackRain]

CottonTail:

This must be a board for amateurs as you started a thread in the "STRICTLY PHOTOS & VIDEOS" forum without posting a single photo or video.

Next time, it would be helpful if you followed the rules instead of complaining.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:2uJnXsrJWjAJ:oracle9.net/funnypics/52.gif

[Fintin]

damn tennis playes

[hank]

the longer I stay on this board, the more convinced I am that most members here are merely wannabes who have never served a day in the armed forces, let alone seen combat. most of your statements are based on imagination & wishful thinking as oppose of factual materials.

Well, I'm not a BTDT, not an amateur and I don't wannabe, so I answer no. I just like the photos and most of these fora are fun occassionally. CottonTail - don't like it? Stay away. That simple. Otherwise start posting something worth reading b/c its 1) funny 2) something with photos 3) constructive or 4) otherwise worth readin for another reason.

What is the point of this? I'll tell you. CottonTail thinks he is smart and he thought this was a great way to show it. Does not qualify under any of the 4 above - this worthless. He asked a question that he thought made him look superior, instead he is a tool.

By the way, there are a lot of idiots around here to be sure, but amateur? I couldn't really say.

Nice try, please play again.

hank

[memphiz]

damn tennis playes
yeah ping pong


you show him Hank (go PIMP club)

[Fintin]

im going to have to get the chain saw out again....dumb sonsabitches

[Haiw]

By the way, there are a lot of idiots around here to be sure, but amateur? I couldn't really say.
Yeah...sadly enough a lot of the idiots are full-time professional idiots. :(

[Aussie E]

I'm not even qualified as an amatuer, does that mean I have to find another board? ;) OHH, OHH, OHH 99. JUST ONE MORE FOR THE STAR

[Fintin]

im a professional slacker...does that count for anything....