Q. Is Romanian DPM exact copy of the British DPM?

[zealot]

..just wondering.. I am referring to the pattern here not the colour scheme.... but when I say EXACT I mean exact w/ re: to the pattern.. without even a slight variation ??!?

[Switek]

Hard to say looks very similar:

desert Romanian DPM:

http://www.mapn.ro/fotodb/albums/20061212_1/Decorarea_Drapelului_de_Lupta_al_B_811_I.sized.jpg

http://www.mapn.ro/fotodb/albums/20061212_1/Ministrul_Sorin_Frunzaverde_discuta_pe_Aeroportul_Tallil_cu_comandandul_B_811_I_lt_col_Tudorel_Dragonici.sized.jpg

Fabrics type is different, the print is different, as well

woodland DPM is British!

http://www.mapn.ro/fotodb/albums/20061124/Aspect_din_timpul_vizitei_la_Batalionul_22_VM.sized.jpg

http://www.mapn.ro/fotodb/albums/20060922/Foto_4_Generalul_Ioan_le_ureaz_succes_militarilor.sized.jpg

http://www.mapn.ro/fotodb/albums/20060821_3/foto_4_Vizita_la_Batalionul_21_Vanatori_de_Munte_Predeal_4.sized.jpg

[zealot]

"Switek: Hard to say looks very similar"

i know... I am inclined to think that Brit one has slightly softer edges... hmm but not sure.. it's a though one

[J-Bags]

Romanian army probably bought a load from us. Either that or they're making them under license. I'll have a look, I'm interested now!

[FozzieBear]

the romanian DPM pattern is similar to our old pattern, the new DPM patterns have soft dotted edges which the romanians dont i think.

[Straker]

Apparently all the Romanian DPM material is ripstop as well, including the trousers. Heard from a guy who worked with some of there medics, found it quite amusing.

[ICUS]

..just wondering.. I am referring to the pattern here not the colour scheme.... but when I say EXACT I mean exact w/ re: to the pattern.. without even a slight variation ??!?

The Romanian desert uniforms are made locally (i.e. in Romania), but I believe the cloth is imported from England. I am unsure about the woodland DPM uniforms, but suspect the same is true.

The jacket and trousers are made in the same heavyweight rip-stop fabric as the S95 smock, whilst the shirt is made from breathable airtex type cloth like the S95 shirt.

[devil99]

Looks like a different cut but other then that, looks close to the same.

[croberts038]

the romanian stuff is a tad darker and the fabric is different. you can see those lines everywhere....the british desert stuff is soft, and lightweight, almost feels like flannel or something.

[dave81]

Whenever I ask this question to the Romanians I hang with, they all tell me with pride that British and Italian military uniforms are made in Romania.
The pattern does seem to me to be exactly the same; I see UK and Ro. forces on a daily basis, side by side. The difference seems to be as stated, in the material and shade of color.

[DeltaWhisky58]

woodland DPM is British!


I think you mean temperate DPM - the term "woodland" is a US term.


The Romanian desert uniforms are made locally (i.e. in Romania), but I believe the cloth is imported from England.

Ironically, much of the DPM cloth used in both temperate and desert DPM, and many of the garments used by British Forces are actually made in Romania!

[Switek]

I think you mean temperate DPM - the term "woodland" is a US term.
...

Off course, I mean temperate DPM, but besides my language lapse I acheived my communication goal, I hope. According to my dictionary I find a word "woodland" much appropriate to describe kind of camo than "temperate". Well if woodland doesn't sound good in relation to DPM in your ears, I solemnly swear use term "temperate DPM", Sir! ;)

[Hydro]

As a slight aside I may be going to Romania next year on exercise so I could compare the patterns ;)

[J-Bags]

Good plan, the first Romanian squaddie you see, rip off one of his sleeves and one of yours, THEN you can compare them.
Or you could just ask to see it. But the sleeve tearing off thing would be a great talking point!
:slap:

[EsoognomEhT]

Hmm, could be the product of some kind of deal. If I recall correctly they have several of our old Navy ships and we even gave them some SA80 A1's to go with them





rofl

[zealot]

thanx for all your input/replys guys... we'll probably have to wait for Hydors exercise to find out for definite

On the second note, i have been wondering for a while how did this "Romanian connection" come abt? I am aware of the outsourcing beacuse of the lower costs of production but not sure abt. the rest hmm!?!?!?!

[zealot]

..If I recall correctly they have several of our old Navy ships and we even gave them some SA80 A1's to go with them





rofl

LOL I remember that... but why Romania?!?!?

[Hydro]

thanx for all your input/replys guys... we'll probably have to wait for Hydors exercise to find out for definite

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Don't hold your breath dude, it's not for absolutely ages yet, and only going if I can't do my driving course. :)

[FozzieBear]

hmm seems i was wrong, ive looked at pic after pic of romanian DPM and it seems it has the same dots as the british dpm but only on the black splodges not on any other colours whereas the british dpm has it on all the colours, so no its not an exact copy, and the cuts and designs are completely different.

[N-G-F-O]

Looks really similar to our 'standard' DPM, but the desert DPM just doesn't look... 'right'.
Know what i mean?

[SamHamam]

UK and Rom Desert DPM (with a norgie in the middle). Theirs looked the same pattern to me but they used ripstop material more than us (not a good idea in the summer). Thankfully we didn't have the DPM boots!

[EsoognomEhT]

rofl @ those boots

[oldsoak]

Looks really similar to our 'standard' DPM, but the desert DPM just doesn't look... 'right'.
Know what i mean?

The pattern looks more concentrated. ie more brown splashes than ours.

[zealot]

Don't hold your breath dude, it's not for absolutely ages yet, and only going if I can't do my driving course. :)

Good luck and stay safe whatever u get up to!

What sort of driving course? What does it involve if you don't mind me asking? just curious ...

[zealot]

thanx for the photo SamHam.. that chest-rig on the brit looks "interesting".. looks like it's been spray painted

[SamHamam]

thanx for the photo SamHam.. that chest-rig on the brit looks "interesting".. looks like it's been spray painted

Yep, Nut Brown and Satin Natural Glow - available from your nearest branch of B&Q.

[zealot]

thnx Sam. That's Sig-226 I presume. Has that been adopted as the official handgun or is it still a temp solution?

[Catch22]

While we are at this photo Sam posted - Brit on the right has Meindl's Desert All Terrains...but who makes those brown Norge desert boots?

[SamHamam]

While we are at this photo Sam posted - Brit on the right has Meindl's Desert All Terrains...but who makes those brown Norge desert boots?


No they're Meindl's Desert Fox (or at least that's what they're called in the UK), first class boots but now knackered and relegated to gardening duties. The Norgie's boots I'm pretty certain are what he was issued, can't help with a maker I'm afraid.


thnx Sam. That's Sig-226 I presume. Has that been adopted as the official handgun or is it still a temp solution?

There are still a lot of Brownings in the system, which you get seems to depend on role and unit.

[M1A2U2]

anyone know where to get a set of romanian desert camo?