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armored fist
12-14-2006, 05:27 PM
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COLUMBUS, Miss. (Army News Service, Dec. 11, 2006) - Gen. Richard A. Cody, Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, and Joe RedCloud, a chief of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, Lakota Nation, accepted the Army's first Lakota Light Utility Helicopter, UH-72A, in a ceremony here today.

"The Light Utility Helicopter - from concept development to material fielding to rapid deployment - is not only serving as a catalyst for change across the Army, it is also accelerating the speed of Army aviation modernization and integration with other services and government agencies," said Cody.

The Army has a long-standing tradition of using American Indian names, such as terms, tribes and chiefs for its helicopters. In the case of the Lakota aircraft, the linkage is between the Lakota legacy as stalwart defenders of their homeland and the nature of the aircraft's intended domestic missions.

"We're pleased that you honor our tribe by naming this helicopter Lakota. You are not only honoring our past, you are recognizing that we are still here, joint partners in the heritage of the promise of America." RedCloud told the audience.

The fielding of the LUH is part of an ongoing Army-level effort to transform its aviation capability through the deliberate reinvestment of funds from the canceled 2004 Comanche program.

The Army National Guard will receive the majority of the 322 new aircraft. Initial aircraft will be sent to the National Training Center, Fort Irwin, Calif. for medical evacuation missions in January 2007. The UH-72A Lakotas will replace UH-60 Black Hawks, which will be transferred to the National Guard for operational missions.

"The Lakota heralds a new beginning for our Army and for our communities across every state," said Cody. "It is our nation's responsibility and the Army's duty to provide our National Guard Soldiers with the tools they need to respond fully and rapidly to homeland security missions and national disasters.

"This exceptional platform will fly for years to come in America's skies. It is an aircraft we needed and we are proud to see it take flight," he said.

The UH-72A is a commercial aircraft designed to conduct light general support tasks in permissive, non-combat environments. Those tasks include civil search and rescue, personnel recovery, evacuation, counter-drug and limited civil command and control operations in the conduct of Homeland Security.

KillerBD
12-14-2006, 06:05 PM
^Seems like a waste of military spending if you ask me... The UH-1 Huey and UH-60 Blackhawk can do the job just fine. But whatever its not my decision.

corran.pl
12-14-2006, 06:21 PM
^Seems like a waste of military spending if you ask me... The UH-1 Huey and UH-60 Blackhawk can do the job just fine. But whatever its not my decision.

UH-72A waste of money? It can do everything that UH-1 or UH-60 but chaper. UH-72A will be used to save money.

angry cow
12-14-2006, 06:44 PM
Why waste a Blackhawk flying generals around? Or rescuing climbers for that matter, when you have a smaller more agile aircraft that is able to do the mission just as well for cheaper since it doesn't have to withstand combat conditions like a blackhawk might have to.

22.5degrees
12-14-2006, 06:44 PM
I doubt it has the payload of a UH60 or a UH1 for that matter. Nice helo, but I agree. Seems like a waste of money.

22.5

ETA: I agree with you angry cow. Definitely a good uses for this bird. I don't see it replacing the UH1 or the UH60.

Ghelp
12-14-2006, 06:50 PM
I actually like it.Seems more of a replacement or some thing in between the Little Bird.

http://www.shephard.co.uk/Assets/Images/Rotorhub/Helicopter%20Manufacturers/Eurocopter/ec145-luh-3.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4550/ec145luh2uz6.jpg

Ordie
12-14-2006, 06:56 PM
I doubt it has the payload of a UH60 or a UH1 for that matter. Nice helo, but I agree. Seems like a waste of money.

22.5

ETA: I agree with you angry cow. Definitely a good uses for this bird. I don't see it replacing the UH1 or the UH60.

The general idea is to free as many Blackhawks for overseas duties. The UH-1, even though its a workhorse, is not as economical to operate nor maintain anymore. The Lakota is an off the shelf, civilian specs general use helicopter for local NG / Reserve duties. Its smaller than a Blackhawk, larger than a Kiowa. By having civilian specs, the NG / Reserve can contract its maintenace to civilians.

socom6
12-14-2006, 07:49 PM
A good utility helicopter in my opinion. I wish it long service and honourable duty.

wicked_hind
12-14-2006, 08:59 PM
It may not have the UH-1's legendry status, but it is a much better airframe and has a better powerplant. The number one complaint I hear from former Huey drivers is that it's underpowered. The same especially goes for the Kiowa Alpha and Charlie models-too underpowered. But it is no waste of money in my opinion, seeing that it would be far cheaper to maintain to operate by the Guard and Reserves than a Blackhawk, and as said in a previous text, it can free up some more UH-60s for overseas duty. We just need to give it a little time to let this helicopter show its stuff. We did that with the Blackhawk, so why not this one?

I wonder after which tribe they'll name this helicopter?

Andrew116
12-14-2006, 09:10 PM
So wait were saveing money by not useing what we already have? right....

anyway, this thing looks like a UH-1 and a OH-58's love child killed at birth but a "little bird" ... couldn't we have just modded a OH-58 to do the same job?

CSUCHICO
12-14-2006, 09:24 PM
It may not have the UH-1's legendry status, but it is a much better airframe and has a better powerplant. The number one complaint I hear from former Huey drivers is that it's underpowered. The same especially goes for the Kiowa Alpha and Charlie models-too underpowered. But it is no waste of money in my opinion, seeing that it would be far cheaper to maintain to operate by the Guard and Reserves than a Blackhawk, and as said in a previous text, it can free up some more UH-60s for overseas duty. We just need to give it a little time to let this helicopter show its stuff. We did that with the Blackhawk, so why not this one?

I wonder after which tribe they'll name this helicopter?

Hint. Its right here in the very first section of the article.
COLUMBUS, Miss. (Army News Service, Dec. 11, 2006) - Gen. Richard A. Cody, Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, and Joe RedCloud, a chief of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, Lakota Nation, accepted the Army's first Lakota Light Utility Helicopter, UH-72A, in a ceremony here today.

wicked_hind
12-14-2006, 09:27 PM
So wait were saveing money by not useing what we already have? right....

anyway, this thing looks like a UH-1 and a OH-58's love child killed at birth but a "little bird" ... couldn't we have just modded a OH-58 to do the same job?

Saving money by using aging aircraft that get increasingly expensive to operate and maintain? You can only get so much use out of a 30+ year old design when you realize you need something more modern and cost effective rather than having single mission aircraft. The UH-1's primary mission in the Army was general support and a secondary medevac role. Can't use a Huey to do battlefield recon. when the enemy can hear you coming from five miles away and can be visually ID'd even closer. The Kiowa is basically a little Huey and can't do much more than a UH-1, with the exception of the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior. When you look at most OH-58A/C and UH-1H serial numbers, you're not going to find a single airframe that's under 30 years old. As good as both helicopters are, you're pretty much looking at second generation helicopter technology. Anyway, it would make sense to many to stick with Bell, being that the logistial base is already present. From what I understand, Eurocopter gave them a better long term deal which satisfied the Army.

wicked_hind
12-14-2006, 09:28 PM
Hint. Its right here in the very first section of the article.
COLUMBUS, Miss. (Army News Service, Dec. 11, 2006) - Gen. Richard A. Cody, Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, and Joe RedCloud, a chief of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, Lakota Nation, accepted the Army's first Lakota Light Utility Helicopter, UH-72A, in a ceremony here today.

Blonde moment, my bad:oops: . Thanks for the heads up

KillerBD
12-16-2006, 02:42 AM
UH-72A waste of money? It can do everything that UH-1 or UH-60 but chaper. UH-72A will be used to save money.

Yea, because spending money on new aircraft is somehow cheaper than using what you have...??? :cantbeli:

8thidpathfinderpower
12-16-2006, 03:21 AM
The general idea is to free as many Blackhawks for overseas duties. The UH-1, even though its a workhorse, is not as economical to operate nor maintain anymore. The Lakota is an off the shelf, civilian specs general use helicopter for local NG / Reserve duties. Its smaller than a Blackhawk, larger than a Kiowa. By having civilian specs, the NG / Reserve can contract its maintenace to civilians.

hey, check this out...bell redid the huey, and the airforce bought it as their new training chopper. And the redone huey is just as cheap as the UH72, without the cost.