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Xaito
03-27-2009, 03:56 PM
Those Mi-24 pics are awesome dzhaga-dzhaga! Thanks!
Do you also have a video-clip or something of them doing aerobatics by chance?

ggk
03-27-2009, 03:59 PM
have this been posted before?

caption says russian SWAT flushing Mafia out by burning the house















http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1231/1015b.jpg

SniperLane
03-27-2009, 04:10 PM
yes it has

xav
03-27-2009, 05:04 PM
What is the name?
http://i004.radikal.ru/0903/fb/2c4c7155fc5f.jpg

Konst
03-27-2009, 05:08 PM
http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/d58/01.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/718/02.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/b28/03.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/60b/04.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/43c/05.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/c36/06.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/203/12.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/b8a/14.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/315/18.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/9c7/19.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/75b/20.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/b1b/21.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/948/22.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/a7e/23.JPG

http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/497/24.JPG

eques
03-27-2009, 05:11 PM
What is the name?
http://i004.radikal.ru/0903/fb/2c4c7155fc5f.jpg
An-22

1234567

xav
03-27-2009, 05:11 PM
AK-107 ?
http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/b8a/14.JPG

Thanks Eques

sepheronx
03-27-2009, 05:12 PM
Can someone please ID me what combat armor they are using?


AK-107 ?
http://www.nta-nn.ru/upload/iblock/b8a/14.JPG

Thanks Eques

Nope, just standard AK-74M

This is AK-107
http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ak107d.jpghttp://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4606/ak107d.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ak107d.jpg)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/%5BURL=http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ak107.jpg%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7046/ak107.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D

zanuda
03-27-2009, 05:21 PM
What is the name?
http://i004.radikal.ru/0903/fb/2c4c7155fc5f.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=RA-09309&distinct_entry=true

TR1
03-27-2009, 05:52 PM
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/army/0028687/

great footage of the veteran Kerch.

XRR496
03-27-2009, 06:02 PM
youtube classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs9m5-k_vro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIzXI-mlJjs

AlexMartin2
03-27-2009, 06:24 PM
All Russian members please read:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/group.php?groupid=50&gmid=10005#gmessage10005

KoTeMoRe
03-27-2009, 06:29 PM
have this been posted before?

caption says russian SWAT flushing Mafia out by burning the house




No It was Podpolkovnik Dumbell and his OMON squad killing caucasian mobsters...in Sankt P.

mannelig
03-27-2009, 07:46 PM
have this been posted before?



Yes.


No It was Podpolkovnik Dumbell and his OMON squad killing caucasian mobsters...in Sankt P.

in Vladivostok

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=153320

turkishAMERICAN
03-27-2009, 07:50 PM
CMSUVULCAN THANX MAN I'm talking about this plane

AN-225

anny body got a interesting pics about this plane thanx

xav
03-27-2009, 09:00 PM
repost?

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9016/02173087.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173087.jpg)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8020/02173077.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173077.jpg)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5207/02173078.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173078.jpg)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3214/02173079.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173079.jpg)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/221/02173081.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173081.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2613/02173082.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173082.jpg)

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9611/02173083.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173083.jpg)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5165/02173085.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173085.jpg)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4125/02173086.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02173086.jpg)

xav
03-27-2009, 09:02 PM
Do you know the name of these Class/Projects?

Unknown types of abandonned Russian CV and CVH/LPH projects

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9341/45712161.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=45712161.jpg)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2834/ph1.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ph1.jpg)
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4558/ph3.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ph3.jpg)
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7034/ph4k.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ph4k.jpg)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5661/ph5m.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ph5m.jpg)

xav
03-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Other weird Russian projects from Design Bureau Malakhit

Note the "BattleTank transport Submarine"
http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93567_p1010530_sm_122_427lo.jpg
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93568_P1010531_sm_122_864lo.jpg
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93576_P1010533_sm_122_168lo.jpg
http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93600_P1010535_sm_122_847lo.jpg
http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93619_P1010536_sm_122_480lo.jpg
http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93627_P1010537_sm_122_351lo.jpg
http://img161.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93631_P1010538_sm_122_847lo.jpg

CIWS?
http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93649_P1010540_sm_122_703lo.jpg
http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93663_P1010541_sm_122_903lo.jpg

In soviet Russia container cargoes are undewater p-) Maybe the best solution to the Pirates issue off Somalia...
http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93691_P1010556_sm_122_205lo.jpg[/QUOTE]

K-5
03-27-2009, 11:27 PM
Could anyone tell me what's the "tipovyi kompleks svyazi."

Looks like Sorbtsiya ECM pod to me

Er_spectr
03-28-2009, 12:10 AM
Other weird Russian projects from Design Bureau Malakhit

Note the "BattleTank transport Submarine"
http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93567_p1010530_sm_122_427lo.jpg
http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93568_P1010531_sm_122_864lo.jpg
http://img9.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93576_P1010533_sm_122_168lo.jpg
http://img155.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93600_P1010535_sm_122_847lo.jpg
http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93619_P1010536_sm_122_480lo.jpg
http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93627_P1010537_sm_122_351lo.jpg
http://img161.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93631_P1010538_sm_122_847lo.jpg

CIWS?
http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93649_P1010540_sm_122_703lo.jpg
http://img190.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93663_P1010541_sm_122_903lo.jpg

In soviet Russia container cargoes are undewater p-) Maybe the best solution to the Pirates issue off Somalia...
http://img142.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=93691_P1010556_sm_122_205lo.jpg[/quote]


This could actually be a great Aircraft Carrier Platform, the the Aircraft would all be internally stored, and your whole carrier could be submerged:)
Has there ever been any such idea??

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71231&stc=1&d=1238209605

planeman
03-28-2009, 01:01 AM
This could actually be a great Aircraft Carrier Platform, the the Aircraft would all be internally stored, and your whole carrier could be submerged:)
Has there ever been any such idea??

http://i43.*******.com/huk6qc.jpg

Migs
03-28-2009, 01:43 AM
Actually, the Japanese applied the concept of the submarine aircraft carrier during WW2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdytwjZXt_Q&feature=related
(actually had a few successful attacks from these carrier platforms)

Flankerman
03-28-2009, 07:50 AM
Could anyone tell me what's the "tipovyi kompleks svyazi."

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3269/knirtil005ssorbstiyapod.jpg

'Sorbtsiya' (to absorb) ECM pod - as fitted to the Su-33 at MAKS....

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/su-33walkround/sorbtsya_02.jpg

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/su-33walkround/front_02.jpg

More here (http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/su-33.htm)

Ken

dzhaga-dzhaga
03-28-2009, 08:43 AM
Those Mi-24 pics are awesome dzhaga-dzhaga! Thanks!
Do you also have a video-clip or something of them doing aerobatics by chance?

unfortunatelly not, only photos :)

zanuda
03-28-2009, 10:39 AM
kubinka training flights (before arrival m.d.a.?)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3994.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3853.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3976.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3858.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3866.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3870.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3876.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3916.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3950.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3976.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_4020.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_4029.jpg

turkishAMERICAN
03-28-2009, 11:09 AM
CMSUVULCAN THANX MAN I'm talking about this plane

AN-225

any body got a interesting pics about this plane thanx

Osobeast
03-28-2009, 11:14 AM
CMSUVULCAN THANX MAN I'm talking about this plane

AN-225

any body got a interesting pics about this plane thanx

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?search_active=1&domains=Airliners.net&sitesearch=Airliners.net&client=pub-8297169501225184&forid=1&channel=1924797129&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT:%23E6E8FA;GL:1;DIV:%23000000;VLC:E6E8FA;AH:center;BGC:45678C;LBGC:45678C;ALC:E6E8FA;LC:E6E8FA;T:C4C8CC;GFNT:C4C8CC;GIMP:C4C8CC;LH:36;LW:639;L:http://cdn-www.airliners.net/graphics/open_file_header_image.jpg;S:http://www.airliners.net;FORID:1;&hl=en&search_field=datedesc&q=An-225&sort_order=datestamp+desc&page=1&page_limit=120&thumbnails=noinfo

uTu
03-28-2009, 11:17 AM
kubinka training flights (before arrival m.d.a.?)

Woah, those are awesome pics :)

TheArmenian
03-28-2009, 11:41 AM
New video of GSh-18 pistol

http://en.rian.ru/video/20090327/120770953.html

medo
03-28-2009, 12:45 PM
Great pictures of Su-34. Are those fuel tanks the same as those for Su-24? They look similar.

TheArmenian
03-28-2009, 12:45 PM
SR-2 VERESK (9 x 21 mm cal.)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3776/2005182.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3779/dca92fb15934.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5296/371c95c03266.jpg

More info and photos here:

http://grossfater-m.livejournal.com/1260728.html

Nuclear_Warrior
03-28-2009, 01:22 PM
'Sorbtsiya' (to absorb) ECM pod - as fitted to the Su-33 at MAKS....

More here (http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/su-33.htm)

Ken

Thanks for the answer, I was asking because i read in some other forum that it was to act as a 'mini-awacs' or something like that. Thanks again!

xav
03-28-2009, 01:34 PM
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5667/4012014716098o.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012014716098o.jpg)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3282/4012016360703y.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016360703y.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9835/4012016360712s.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016360712s.jpg)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1700/4012016360713p.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016360713p.jpg)

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2853/4012016361722k.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016361722k.jpg)

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5283/4012016361745d.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016361745d.jpg)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5742/4012016361749y.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016361749y.jpg)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7862/4012016361759f.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016361759f.jpg)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/277/4012016361763f.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016361763f.jpg)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5820/4012016361770p.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4012016361770p.jpg)

http://t5.gallery.ru/watch?a=kBg-ccHd

Hyde
03-28-2009, 01:42 PM
Is there any reason for the increased flying in the last week?

zanuda
03-28-2009, 01:46 PM
Is there any reason for the increased flying in the last week?

air show for president and others

medo
03-28-2009, 02:15 PM
I think this is the first picture of Pantsir in russian green-brown colours and it is not on Kamaz truck. It looks like MAKS before MAKS just for president.

JohnnyWalker
03-28-2009, 02:33 PM
Zanuda. WOW. Your not a hot chick by any chance are you??
Because if you were, and you posted those kinds of pics, I would have to say "Heyyy... how you doin?

TheArmenian
03-28-2009, 02:35 PM
I think this is the first picture of Pantsir in russian green-brown colours and it is not on Kamaz truck. It looks like MAKS before MAKS just for president.

Indeed. It is on a BAZ chassis. Very interesting.

TR1
03-28-2009, 02:41 PM
Why even put that tank on the Su-34. Where are the flying from, South Africa :)?

yake
03-28-2009, 02:53 PM
Su-32 is really majestic

http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/94/67/22/_mg_3810.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=131&u=12946722)

medo
03-28-2009, 02:54 PM
As I know S-400 use the same BAZ trucks. Maybe this will make easier logistics for combined S-400, Pantsir units.

Anyway, i would like to fly in Su-34 too...

TR1
03-28-2009, 02:59 PM
Also are we ever going to see pics of the illusive Su-34 Toilet?

Flamming_Python
03-28-2009, 03:18 PM
Also are we ever going to see pics of the illusive Su-34 Toilet?

I wanna check out the microwave myself :)

zanuda
03-28-2009, 03:21 PM
zanuda. Wow. Your not a hot chick by any chance are you??
Because if you were, and you posted those kinds of pics, i would have to say "heyyy... How you doin?

иди бухай своё пойло

kote
03-28-2009, 03:38 PM
Isn't that flash suppressor supposed to suppress the flash?
And no it is too good to be photoshoped. Or is it just a muzzle brake?

TheArmenian
03-28-2009, 03:42 PM
Isn't that flash suppressor supposed to suppress the flash?
And no it is too good to be photoshoped. Or is it just a muzzle brake?

That is not a flash suppressor nor muzzle brake. It is an adaptor to fire blank training cartidges. Still that much flash in broad daylight does not seem real to me.

Gast
03-28-2009, 03:45 PM
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/0028707/
The President Medvedev and Minister of Defence Serdyukov visited Kubinka AFB.

piton_kaa
03-28-2009, 03:58 PM
Still that much flash in broad daylight does not seem real to me.
*reviving memories of trainings when in military school*
absolutely real

But to be honest, you have to thank camera's features (exposure etc) for that effect on the pic

peter.pl
03-28-2009, 04:23 PM
In Russia attack helicopters like Mi-24 are in use of Air Force not Land Force like in almost every army ?

Dark-Angel25
03-28-2009, 04:31 PM
http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cvn-ulyanovsk.jpg


Russia to build nuclear-powered 60,000-ton aircraft carrier

TR1
03-28-2009, 04:53 PM
http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/(090328220408)_zvezda.jpghttp://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/%28090328220408%29_zvezda.jpg


The New tricolour star

Papah
03-28-2009, 04:57 PM
I'm very interested in knowing if PBS-1 is usable with the AKS74U. Maybe somebody here can give a proper explanation about AK74, AKS74U, PBS-1 and PBS-4, please.

PS: this is an airsoft combination only.

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/70153/3324150b.jpg

Osobeast
03-28-2009, 05:04 PM
http://www.naval.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/cvn-ulyanovsk.jpg

Unfortunately, it's just an old soviet design - so called "project 1143.7" or Kremlin/Ulyanovsk class.

Frutzel
03-28-2009, 05:08 PM
http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/(090328220408)_zvezda.jpg (http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/%28090328220408%29_zvezda.jpg)http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/%28090328220408%29_zvezda.jpg


The New tricolour star

Reminds me of something but it looks greatp-)

Dark Avenger
03-28-2009, 06:15 PM
In Russia attack helicopters like Mi-24 are in use of Air Force not Land Force like in almost every army ?

The Army Aviation service was absorbed by the Air Force a few years ago.

Xaito
03-28-2009, 06:24 PM
they should make the white and blue parts much smaller.

KoTeMoRe
03-28-2009, 08:28 PM
they should make the white and blue parts much smaller.


Yeah right now it looks like Yugoslavia...p-)

Karaahmetoglu
03-28-2009, 09:02 PM
http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/(090328220408)_zvezda.jpg (http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/%28090328220408%29_zvezda.jpg)http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/files/Chatskiy/%28090328220408%29_zvezda.jpg


The New tricolour star


No offence but it looks too American too me, they should have put the tricolor inside the star, kinda like the Russian flag cut out into a star shape. My avatar has the new Kazakh one.

Hyde
03-28-2009, 09:27 PM
Isn't that flash suppressor supposed to suppress the flash?
And no it is too good to be photoshoped. Or is it just a muzzle brake?

It is fully closed, so no flash hider on that rifle, so a lot of flash. Seems logic to me.

K-5
03-28-2009, 10:05 PM
No offence but it looks too American too me, they should have put the tricolor inside the star, kinda like the Russian flag cut out into a star shape. My avatar has the new Kazakh one.
It looks stupid, that's all. Politics aside, imagine a situation when friendly pilot is trying to id a plane with this marking visually. I'm pretty certain blue and red will fuse at a distance and look like anything but friendly insignia. And why should they change? it VVS had it's glory in WW2, Korea and Afghan wearing red and white stars, not Zarist like ribbons.

TheEvian100
03-28-2009, 10:23 PM
Medvedev and Su-34 in RU AF base Kubinka...



Nice one! Some more images from the same event.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1084/36052711.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6243/99572452.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7987/72333689.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/412/38598474.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7595/800x.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2378/12604359.jpg

TheEvian100
03-29-2009, 12:00 AM
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4521/asd5u.jpg

Just a small tribute from me, to the Russian soldiers that fought and protected South Ossetia.

GazB
03-29-2009, 01:12 AM
Isn't that flash suppressor supposed to suppress the flash?
And no it is too good to be photoshoped. Or is it just a muzzle brake?Is actually quite normal. The muzzle device is a blank firing adaptor to allow blank rounds to be fired. Blank rounds have no solid projectile to be accelerated down the barrel so pressure must be generated another way to properly cycle the action. The combination of a muzzle device with a small hole to build up pressure and also more propellent powder in the blank round allow it to operate the mechanism normally, though at the cost of a dirtier weapon and large muzzle flash because there is more unburnt powder exiting the muzzle.


Maybe somebody here can give a proper explanation about AK74, AKS74U, PBS-1 and PBS-4, please.http://world.guns.ru/assault/as03-e.htm

Second photo down: AKS-74U-UBN.

And:

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka116.html

AKS-74U with PBS-3 and PBS-4.

planeman
03-29-2009, 01:53 AM
Nice one! Some more images from the same event.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7595/800x.jpg

Any clearer pics of this Pantsyr vehicle -is it in service? Also, is that S-400 in the background?

TheEvian100
03-29-2009, 02:01 AM
Any clearer pics of this Pantsyr vehicle -is it in service? Also, is that S-400 in the background?

1000x740 is the best availabe, here you go:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5816/pantsir.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantsir.jpg)

About the SAM on the background, I think russian news mentioned it was S-400, but you'll need to check that with other members since I don't speak the language.

Er_spectr
03-29-2009, 02:12 AM
Some images from the Russian air Forces:



http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8243/1498389.jpg



With this new helicopter do they also get new helmets? Night-vision and some high-tech stuff?

Karaahmetoglu
03-29-2009, 02:18 AM
In the pictures with the Kazakh-Russian joint operation, the light blue Su-27's with the white nose are Kazakh. If anyone has any info on which version it is, please tell.

Alef
03-29-2009, 03:11 AM
Wow, 110 000 rubles per month, things are kinda improved for fly-boys, is this true? Bachelor? :)
mmmm... 110k rubles? BS?

AlexMartin2
03-29-2009, 03:13 AM
Wow, 110 000 rubles per month, things are kinda improved for fly-boys, is this true? Bachelor? :)

There is a program of additional money for the best officers in the army.
They get their usual salary plus the bonus from 30k to 150k rubles per month according to their rank.
As I heard almost half of pilots have that bonus.

K-5
03-29-2009, 03:14 AM
Wow, 110 000 rubles per month, things are kinda improved for fly-boys, is this true? Bachelor? :)
His rank and being stationed in Cremlin friendly base certainly pays off:)

Zmey
03-29-2009, 03:42 AM
It looks stupid, that's all. Politics aside, imagine a situation when friendly pilot is trying to id a plane with this marking visually. I'm pretty certain blue and red will fuse at a distance and look like anything but friendly insignia. And why should they change? it VVS had it's glory in WW2, Korea and Afghan wearing red and white stars, not Zarist like ribbons.

Actually this "new" Star could have been a LOT worse. As it is, the thin blue *****e will be virtually invisible from few hundred meters. So, not much really changed.

shardana
03-29-2009, 03:49 AM
Medvedev and Su-34 in RU AF base Kubinka...

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1808/big214437.jpg
Does anybody know anything about a ligher T50 project with a single engine?

GazB
03-29-2009, 04:22 AM
Does anybody know anything about a ligher T50 project with a single engine?There is talk of a MIG project for a 5th gen fighter that will be lighter and cheaper. Not as capable as the bigger Pak-Fa, but cheap enough to be bought in large numbers to make up for the fact that the bigger expensive 5th gen fighters are too expensive to replace older fighters on a one for one basis. The only single jet 5th gen fighter proposal I can remember (that was geniune Russian) was the Yak-43, which had a single engine based on the 25 ton thrust engine of the Tu-160 and Tu-22M3 that had a swiveling nozzle for thrust vectoring and VSTOL takeoff.

When MIG became part of OAK there were comments by the head of OAK that they were interested in a light 5th gen fighter to finish off development for the Russian AF and there were hints that the RUAF was interested though there was no mention that they had put any money into it at that stage.

sepheronx
03-29-2009, 05:01 AM
With this new helicopter do they also get new helmets? Night-vision and some high-tech stuff?

Like the Mi-28, KA-52 is an day/night and all weather based helicopter, so yes, it should have all the high tech stuff.

mannelig
03-29-2009, 05:41 AM
They're showing this film today, in the evening


The full movie have already been posted
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4017048&postcount=1390

medo
03-29-2009, 06:04 AM
http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_3047_mk.jpg

A picture of Pantsir from Kubinka visit. It seems to have additional IFF antena on top of search radar.

x_ray
03-29-2009, 07:48 AM
No offence but it looks too American too me, they should have put the tricolor inside the star, kinda like the Russian flag cut out into a star shape. My avatar has the new Kazakh one.
They should keep everything in red, this new one is not good. Kazakh one is better now ( :) for Kazakh, :( for Russian)

AlexMartin2
03-29-2009, 09:19 AM
http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/img_3047_mk.jpg

A picture of Pantsir from Kubinka visit. It seems to have additional IFF antena on top of search radar.

It looks too big. Will be very difficult to camouflage it. Shilka/Tunguska is much smaller.

TheArmenian
03-29-2009, 09:46 AM
It looks too big. Will be very difficult to camouflage it. Shilka/Tunguska is much smaller.

It has to be bigger, the missiles have twice the range of Tunguska's and the radars are more powerfull.

medo
03-29-2009, 10:28 AM
http://slovenskavojska.si/images/poklicna/enote/pssv_9bzo/9bzo_03.jpg

Roland in the same version is also big and have only 6 km range. I'm sure that tracked version to protect armor units of Pantsir will be as small as Shilka or Tunguska.

Papah
03-29-2009, 11:53 AM
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as03-e.htm

Second photo down: AKS-74U-UBN.

And:

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/models/ka116.html

AKS-74U with PBS-3 and PBS-4.

Thanks for the info GazB, quite interesting things I read on those links.

But I still have my doubts about this combination. Are PBS-1 and AKS74U usable together? I read something about diferent threads in AK74 (were PBS-1 is intended to be used) and AKS74U when their flashfiders are removed, but maybe adapters could solve that problem, couldn't they. Please help! ;)

Bachelor
03-29-2009, 01:38 PM
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somrandom
03-29-2009, 04:43 PM
It looks too big. Will be very difficult to camouflage it. Shilka/Tunguska is much smaller.

The Tunguska should still be around, and might even be modernized also?

Tracked vehicles do have their advantages.

K-5
03-29-2009, 04:52 PM
It has to be bigger, the missiles have twice the range of Tunguska's and the radars are more powerfull.
Well not really. Wheeled chassis, which was Arabs' requirement, itself is twice the length of combat module and unlike armored chassis it's size is directly proportional to load it's designed to carry. Army version will definitely use tracked platform (It's the army thing-they want it to keep up with tanks and have general compatibility with Tunguska, Tor and Buk) Here is some prototype info:
http://btvt.narod.ru/5/Panzir/panzir.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/images/panzir/new/Dscf0020.jpg

Nuclear_Warrior
03-29-2009, 05:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbq0snxuKIY

K-5
03-29-2009, 07:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbq0snxuKIY
PTB-3000 is still there, me wonders where they flew:roll:

void
03-29-2009, 08:14 PM
Well not really. Wheeled chassis, which was Arabs' requirement, itself is twice the length of combat module and unlike armored chassis it's size is directly proportional to load it's designed to carry. Army version will definitely use tracked platform (It's the army thing-they want it to keep up with tanks and have general compatibility with Tunguska, Tor and Buk) Here is some prototype info:
http://btvt.narod.ru/5/Panzir/panzir.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/images/panzir/new/Dscf0020.jpg

Wheres the tracking radar? I only see a search radar.
Also, if you watch this video, you'll see the Pantsir on a tracked BMP-3 chassis which is fairly compact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6834993Posg

K-5
03-29-2009, 09:50 PM
Wheres the tracking radar? I only see a search radar.
Also, if you watch this video, you'll see the Pantsir on a tracked BMP-3 chassis which is fairly compact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6834993Posg
Yeah, no tracker there they probably hurried it to the exhibition.
It is GM-59XX universal platform which is not BMP-3 derivative.

GazB
03-30-2009, 01:13 AM
It looks too big. Will be very difficult to camouflage it. Shilka/Tunguska is much smaller.

Its purpose is to defend fixed sites like an S-300/-400 SAM site or an airfield or HQ/Comms centre. It will be stationary for most of its time on operation and every time it fires no camo on earth will hide its position.

Tunguska is designed to defend things that move like armoured units. All versions can fire on the move but above shelterised version on truck is less likely too.


But I still have my doubts about this combination. Are PBS-1 and AKS74U usable together? I read something about diferent threads in AK74 (were PBS-1 is intended to be used) and AKS74U when their flashfiders are removed, but maybe adapters could solve that problem, couldn't they. Please help!

It is my understanding that all AKs have the same threading so that the same standard items can be attached. If you look carefully at an AK-74 you will see it has two bayonet lugs for example. This is because the new muzzle device makes the standard lug position too far back so a new lug is fitted just below the front Iron sight. The old lug is still fitted because it is used for the GP series underbarrel 40mm grenade launchers. The AKS-74U does not have bayonet lugs but I don't know why they would change the threading. Remember the shorter model AK-100s have the same muzzle break as the AKS-74U so they should all be interchangable.

The suppressor I have on my AK has an adaptor because the suppressor is designed for the SAIGA series rifles which do have much wider threading than the Type 56S AKM knockoff that I own.


The Tunguska should still be around, and might even be modernized also?

Tracked vehicles do have their advantages.

That would be likely... no point in having different missiles and radars for a system that basically does the same thing. Like the original the missiles are cheap and all the cost is in the sensors on the vehicle.


Well not really. Wheeled chassis, which was Arabs' requirement, itself is twice the length of combat module and unlike armored chassis it's size is directly proportional to load it's designed to carry.

To be fair, while the Arabs did pay for the upgrade the Pantsir was always going to be wheeled to reduce costs and compliment Tunguska and a fixed shelterised version was to be an even cheaper option.


Yeah, no tracker there they probably hurried it to the exhibition.
It is GM-59XX universal platform which is not BMP-3 derivative.

It was a cheaper version with no tracking radar. Terminal tracking and guidance was performed by optical sights to reduce costs and to operate in a more passive mode.

Outdated
03-30-2009, 03:06 AM
In the pictures with the Kazakh-Russian joint operation, the light blue Su-27's with the white nose are Kazakh. If anyone has any info on which version it is, please tell.
You mean these ones:
http://pilot.strizhi.info/photos/v/Cooperation-2008/battle/?g2_page=15
Anyway all Kazakh Flankers are standard Su-27 and Su-27UB.

madgordon
03-30-2009, 03:59 AM
Hi all, few interesting pics and news.

SAU Coalition project closed. There is a new project - "Необитаемость".



Early version BMPT:

1. Highlander Tank 1990

2. Early soviet version of BMPT

3. Т-72АВ with minimal modifications

Osobeast
03-30-2009, 05:48 AM
SAU Coalition project closed. There is a new project - "Необитаемость".
any details?

Flankerman
03-30-2009, 05:52 AM
PTB-3000 is still there, me wonders where they flew:roll:

And - if only President Medvedev had asked to use the toilet !!!!

Ken

void
03-30-2009, 05:57 AM
any details?

From the looks of it, they're going with an unmanned turret so as to fit a bigger autoloader/more ammo. Im guessing this way they can have a faster loading cycle, etc etc.

zanuda
03-30-2009, 06:59 AM
warning... violence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAp7LVGsGPc

KoTeMoRe
03-30-2009, 08:07 AM
Holy ... the grenade!

Alef...what the?

Dark-Angel25
03-30-2009, 08:58 AM
Some old school stuff(Soviet Union)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1100/530465802_b25363c729.jpg?v=1189870884


CCCP-77106 Tupolev Tu-144.
A monument of exeptional espionage. The Tu-144 was airborne before the Anglo-French Concorde.(CONCORDSKY:))


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/214/484161290_e37a10a81b.jpg?v=1194944544
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3192/2520725459_dc05ded24e.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2385/2035061637_012fcfcab5.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2729412414_53bf74341b.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/2729412884_16124dcdd5.jpg?v=0


Mig-21


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2013/2535503467_c4895ed354.jpg?v=0

Landing gear Mig-21

AlexMartin2
03-30-2009, 09:05 AM
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=269299

Shows new Russian MRAP, and other stuff, like BTR-90.

AcoRS
03-30-2009, 09:40 AM
What the...? When was that?

Any info?

Looks like hell on earth...


I remember seeing this a while back. From memory the actual storming of the room wasnt taped, but rather they filmed this straight after the action as a sort of re-enactment... I could be wrong so if anyone can confirm it would be great.

KoTeMoRe
03-30-2009, 09:45 AM
I remember seeing this a while back. From memory the actual storming of the room wasnt taped, but rather they filmed this straight after the action as a sort of re-enactment... I could be wrong so if anyone can confirm it would be great.

I can guarantee you that the impacts on the wall are NOT bb's!

Awatron
03-30-2009, 09:48 AM
Yeah, if THAT was a reenactment, than i would not like to see the actual fighting.

User_Name
03-30-2009, 09:50 AM
I can guarantee you that the impacts on the wall are NOT bb's!
Its N.Caucasus, me think in Machachkala, "police" blocked some militants and they tried to escape. Summer 2008, there was also a "Vesti"-Report about this shooting.

KoTeMoRe
03-30-2009, 09:58 AM
Ah I'm thinking that AcorS was speaking about the Beslan footage...wich would seem more credible...especially with the RG-5 going off that close!

User name, yes it is indeed the Assault on Makhachkala...

TheArmenian
03-30-2009, 10:02 AM
Well not really. Wheeled chassis, which was Arabs' requirement, itself is twice the length of combat module and unlike armored chassis it's size is directly proportional to load it's designed to carry. Army version will definitely use tracked platform (It's the army thing-they want it to keep up with tanks and have general compatibility with Tunguska, Tor and Buk) Here is some prototype info:
http://btvt.narod.ru/5/Panzir/panzir.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/images/panzir/new/Dscf0020.jpg

Here is a better photo of PANTSIR on a tracked chassis. Tracking radar is installed.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8871/p291.jpg


I have seen also PANTSIR installed on an MZKT chassis and on a BMP chassis (cheaper and lighter versio without tracking radar- only optical fire guidance).

So now we have seen PANTSIR on four different chassis (KAMAZ, BAZ, MZKT and BMP). The question is : which one(s) is the Russian Army purchasing? Are you sure it is the tracked version???

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8292/img4481.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7420/p841.jpg

Kutuzov
03-30-2009, 10:04 AM
Its N.Caucasus, me think in Machachkala, "police" blocked some militants and they tried to escape. Summer 2008, there was also a "Vesti"-Report about this shooting.

That footage is from Nalchik.

KoTeMoRe
03-30-2009, 10:06 AM
That footage is from Nalchik.


Edit: Nope you're right...Nalchik was in 2005.

shardana
03-30-2009, 10:31 AM
There is talk of a MIG project for a 5th gen fighter that will be lighter and cheaper. Not as capable as the bigger Pak-Fa, but cheap enough to be bought in large numbers to make up for the fact that the bigger expensive 5th gen fighters are too expensive to replace older fighters on a one for one basis. The only single jet 5th gen fighter proposal I can remember (that was geniune Russian) was the Yak-43, which had a single engine based on the 25 ton thrust engine of the Tu-160 and Tu-22M3 that had a swiveling nozzle for thrust vectoring and VSTOL takeoff.

When MIG became part of OAK there were comments by the head of OAK that they were interested in a light 5th gen fighter to finish off development for the Russian AF and there were hints that the RUAF was interested though there was no mention that they had put any money into it at that stage.
It sounds to me reasonable to develope a lighter 5th generation fighter, I do not believe Russia will export PAK-FA easily, even if probably they will be less rigid than US with F22.

civilriot2009
03-30-2009, 11:44 AM
As far as i know Pakfa project is stopped.

Osobeast
03-30-2009, 11:53 AM
As far as i know Pakfa project is stopped.

Yeah, of course...but Sukhoi, russian DoD and India still don't know about that. p-)

Another great videos from 461st ShAP:

N.Caucasus
http://video.mail.ru/mail/pavlovmv/267/268.html

Tajikistan
http://video.mail.ru/mail/pavlovmv/_myvideo/250.html

Alef
03-30-2009, 12:02 PM
Yeah, of course...but Sukhoi, russian DoD and India still don't know about that. p-)

Another great videos from 461st ShAP:

N.Caucasus
http://video.mail.ru/mail/pavlovmv/267/268.html

Tajikistan
http://video.mail.ru/mail/pavlovmv/_myvideo/250.html
1000 thx...
about last video... don't know circumstances.

medo
03-30-2009, 12:09 PM
So now we have seen PANTSIR on four different chassis (KAMAZ, BAZ, MZKT and BMP). The question is : which one(s) is the Russian Army purchasing? Are you sure it is the tracked version???

I think russian army will get two versions of Pantsir. PVO VVS will have wheeled version of Pantsir (maybe BAZ truck, because S-400 use the same truck), PVO SV will have tracked version of Pantsir. Anyway it will be very interesting combination of Buk-M2, Tor-M2 and Pantsir for protecting armor units, specially if we know, that even BMPT, Kryzantema, Kornet SP, BMD-4, BMP-3 and BTR-90 have quite nice air defense capabilities with their guns and missiles against helicopters and low flying planes.

civilriot2009
03-30-2009, 12:25 PM
Agat AAM seekers. Left to right: (1) 9B-1101K dual plane monopulse semi-active homing seeker used in R-27R1/ER1. (2) 9B-1348E active radar homing seeker used in R-77 variants and (3) 9B-1103K active radar homing seeker for R-27EA (Agat).

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/rhesus1/Agat-9B-1101K-1348E-1103K-AS.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/rhesus1/Russian-BVR-Seekers-06.png

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/rhesus1/Survivability-vs-Salvo-Size.png

Bachelor
03-30-2009, 12:48 PM
Fresh "dish" of the Ru AF base Kubinka by Aleksandr "ARX".

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/sae/fireworks.gif




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3994.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3853.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3858.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3866.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3876.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3885.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3950.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3976.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_3998.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_4002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_4004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_4020.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/Arxangel/JJ/avia/_MG_4029.jpg

shardana
03-30-2009, 01:06 PM
As far as i know Pakfa project is stopped.

It sounds new to me, It is difficult to understand how they can stop such vital project I could think they could slow or simplify but not to stop

sepheronx
03-30-2009, 01:06 PM
As far as i know Pakfa project is stopped.

Lol, wow, where did you get your sources from? Russia already paid for the aircraft to be created and completed, so stopping work would be for no reason what so ever...


It sounds new to me, It is difficult to understand how they can stop such vital project I could think they could slow or simplify but not to stop

I think he is lying. Cause there is no way they could have stopped it, when two countries already payed for the project to be completed.


It sounds to me reasonable to develope a lighter 5th generation fighter, I do not believe Russia will export PAK-FA easily, even if probably they will be less rigid than US with F22.
Everyone knows Russia sells monkey versions of planes and other equipment. But the airframes would be the same, but internally, equipment could be very different.

Also, if Russia is going to introduce the PAKFA this year, they can not stop production of the test bed, that is why I think the statement that was made is false.

Nuclear_Warrior
03-30-2009, 01:11 PM
Amazing photos Bachelor!!

civilriot2009
03-30-2009, 01:31 PM
Lol, wow, where did you get your sources from? Russia already paid for the aircraft to be created and completed, so stopping work would be for no reason what so ever...

I really dont remember where i read those info....it was on a forum...something like defensetalk or somethink like that. They said Pakfa canceled due to lack of founds. Correct me if i am wrong...but didnt russia reduced military founds??? If not i wish to know the REAL facts...because i dont really trust other forum or BBC etc channels.

Hast2
03-30-2009, 01:37 PM
"I heard somewhere, very trusty source, but i don't remember the name and btw i should not prove i'm right, actually YOU should prove i'm wrong"

rofl

sepheronx
03-30-2009, 01:38 PM
I really dont remember where i read those info....it was on a forum...something like defensetalk or somethink like that. They said Pakfa canceled due to lack of founds. Correct me if i am wrong...but didnt russia reduced military founds??? If not i wish to know the REAL facts...because i dont really trust other forum or BBC etc channels.

If it was the case, Wikipedia would have something on it, and so would Janes and plenty of other websites as well. Also, the article comes from RIA NOVOSTI, and I have been reading on the website for a long time now, and never seen that article, nor can I find it. So I find it suspicious. I am starting to think it may be an early april fools joke.

I cannot find anything else based on it, but a defense talk forum post.

TheArmenian
03-30-2009, 01:55 PM
I really dont remember where i read those info....it was on a forum...something like defensetalk or somethink like that. They said Pakfa canceled due to lack of founds. Correct me if i am wrong...but didnt russia reduced military founds??? If not i wish to know the REAL facts...because i dont really trust other forum or BBC etc channels.

We covered that a while ago on this thread. It was a a false rumour that was started on the keypublishing forum by a stupid poster, it spread very quickly to many forums.

Carry on.

Papah
03-30-2009, 02:47 PM
It is my understanding that all AKs have the same threading so that the same standard items can be attached. If you look carefully at an AK-74 you will see it has two bayonet lugs for example. This is because the new muzzle device makes the standard lug position too far back so a new lug is fitted just below the front Iron sight. The old lug is still fitted because it is used for the GP series underbarrel 40mm grenade launchers. The AKS-74U does not have bayonet lugs but I don't know why they would change the threading. Remember the shorter model AK-100s have the same muzzle break as the AKS-74U so they should all be interchangable.

The suppressor I have on my AK has an adaptor because the suppressor is designed for the SAIGA series rifles which do have much wider threading than the Type 56S AKM knockoff that I own.

Thanks for the info:hug:

I didn't ever see any pic of russian special forces with silenced AKs that weren't the "academic" version: AK74s (and 100 series) with their lovely PBS-1; and the AKS74U with the PBS-4 (we also call it "******tor"). That was what was bugging me :cantbeli:

matthew.manhorn
03-30-2009, 03:03 PM
Nice flanker photo bachler. White+Blue+red colored Su-27 is my favorite fighter. I always wonder what colors did the Soviet-era Su-27 have

K-5
03-30-2009, 03:39 PM
Nice flanker photo bachler. White+Blue+red colored Su-27 is my favorite fighter. I always wonder what colors did the Soviet-era Su-27 have
Most flankers in service today wear same three piece camo from the mid 80's

zanuda
03-30-2009, 04:11 PM
..................... ups repost

alexgodinez
03-30-2009, 08:11 PM
For ground targets, the suite allows:


A tank-effective detection range up to 15 km, and aircraft carrier detection at 60 to 80 km:roll:;
Identification of the tank type on the 8 to 10 km range, and of an aircraft carrier at 40 to 60 km; and
Estimates of ground target range of up to 20 km.
http://www.aviapedia.com/video/new-mig-35-ols-video
(http://www.aviapedia.com/video/new-mig-35-ols-video)

[/quote] its use full for detecting aircraft carriers? GASP

void
03-30-2009, 08:23 PM
Radar Cross Sections cited (X-band):
F-22A Front Aspect = 0.0001 m2, Side and Rear Aspect = 0.01 0.001 m2 (0.005 used in this analysis);
F-35A Front Aspect = 0.001 m2, Side and Rear Aspect = 0.01 m2;
PAK-FA All Aspect = 0.01 m2;
Su-35-1 Front Aspect= 2 m2.

Radar Range Figures used are:
F-22A APG-77 = published figures (AW&ST - pessimistic);
F-35A APG-81 = published figures (AW&ST - pessimistic);
PAK-FA IRBIS-E N035 Best Case published figures (Tikhomirov NIIP);
Su-35-1 IRBIS-E N035 Worst Case published figures (Tikhomirov NIIP)


Where did you get the RCS and radar performance figures for the PAK-FA? I was under the impression that the radar type/model wasnt even announced for the PAK-FA, and that the RCS definitely was a closely held secret.

DarthJesus
03-30-2009, 08:46 PM
I've read that APA article and I have to say the whole thing is more than a little specious. The F-35 has yet to enter service so its hard to make an accurate measurement of its capabilities. The same thing for the Su-35. And as for the PAK-FA we don't even know what it looks like yet! How can you make any kind of realistic appraisal of its abilities without knowing anything about the airplane? APA has some interesting articles but it also makes some suspect arguements.

zg18
03-30-2009, 08:59 PM
I've read that APA article and I have to say the whole thing is more than a little specious. The F-35 has yet to enter service so its hard to make an accurate measurement of its capabilities. The same thing for the Su-35. And as for the PAK-FA we don't even know what it looks like yet! How can you make any kind of realistic appraisal of its abilities without knowing anything about the airplane? APA has some interesting articles but it also makes some suspect arguements.

Well , that's understandable because the project is "Top Secret".

KramerIDF
03-30-2009, 10:51 PM
Heya everybody. Instead of making a new post asking, I felt it would be a bit appropriate to ask here instead, because it is also a picture request.

The USAF has the Security Forces, and the RAF has the RAF Regiment, does the Russian Air Force have any sort of ground unit that specializes in airfield security/defense? If so what is the name of them and are there any pictures? Thanks.

Xaito
03-31-2009, 12:12 AM
Yamadaev shot dead in Dubai:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrOEdbMGZxQ

Er_spectr
03-31-2009, 01:17 AM
I've read that APA article and I have to say the whole thing is more than a little specious. The F-35 has yet to enter service so its hard to make an accurate measurement of its capabilities. The same thing for the Su-35. And as for the PAK-FA we don't even know what it looks like yet! How can you make any kind of realistic appraisal of its abilities without knowing anything about the airplane? APA has some interesting articles but it also makes some suspect arguements.


The article says that judging the current Russian technologies, the highest RCS they can reach is 0.01. Well it is supposed to be an estimate. The thing is we (people with only public data) can not comment on this matter, Sukhoi might have some top secret technologies that no one is even aware of. The problem is that in the 21st century having secret tech is extremely hard if not impossible ;)

K-5
03-31-2009, 03:02 AM
Yamadaev shot dead in Dubai:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrOEdbMGZxQ
Damn, first Vostok CO now him, RIP... Khadyirov Junior is one ambitious fellow

The article says that judging the current Russian technologies, the highest RCS they can reach is 0.01. Well it is supposed to be an estimate. The thing is we (people with only public data) can not comment on this matter, Sukhoi might have some top secret technologies that no one is even aware of. The problem is that in the 21st century having secret tech is extremely hard if not impossible ;)
True, but that source is known to make rather obscene exaggerations about PAK-FA. Look at the IRST proposed airborne object detection range for example.
I found this what-if projections which I thing are much closer to what an actual PAK-FA prototype is going to look like (big hopes for MAKS this year). It's got sound airframe, and that immature prototypeish look.
http://www.hitechweb.szm.sk/fightersSF04_soubory/T-50PAKFA.jpg

Alef
03-31-2009, 03:33 AM
http://**********/tracks/1709381.html?confirm=24c81517c4b026ac241e5c1d78430eb3&v=d55c5b6861e548a9800bfdef610bb65b

shardana
03-31-2009, 03:42 AM
Damn, first Vostok CO now him, RIP... Khadyirov Junior is one ambitious fellow

True, but that source is known to make rather obscene exaggerations about PAK-FA. Look at the IRST proposed airborne object detection range for example.
I found this what-if projections which I thing are much closer to what an actual PAK-FA prototype is going to look like (big hopes for MAKS this year). It's got sound airframe, and that immature prototypeish look.
http://www.hitechweb.szm.sk/fightersSF04_soubory/T-50PAKFA.jpg

70 NM range for AIRST seems an exaggeration but it anyway depends by enviromental condition (bad weather,clouds etc.)
Anyway use of thermal sensor will create problem to the stealth fighters they cannot reduce emission to zero, sensor fusion too could be a challenge.

Kutuzov
03-31-2009, 04:40 AM
Some Marching Glinka style :

http://www.youtube.com/v/CCkSJJeH3v0&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/v/diswrqiq3_U&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/v/4Qu6gr06lUU&feature=related

K-5
03-31-2009, 05:09 AM
Experimental Mobile Nuclear Powerplant:
http://savepic.ru/551348m.jpg (http://savepic.ru/551348.htm)

Dark-Angel25
03-31-2009, 05:23 AM
President Medvedev visits Kubinka Air Base

http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/44/120804441.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_2.html)


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov inspected operational and advanced military equipment at Kubinka Air Base near


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804525.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_3.html)

March 28, 2009. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev before taking off in a Sukhoi Su-34 Fullback fighter-bomber from Kubinka Air Base near Moscow

http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804594.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_4.html)


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev before taking off in a Sukhoi Su-34 Fullback fighter-bomber from Kubinka Air Base near Moscow


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/44/120804472.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_5.html)


The multi-role, highly maneuverable and fast Su-34 fighter-bomber can carry a large ordnance load


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/44/120804456.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_6.html)


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev before taking off in a Sukhoi Su-34 Fullback fighter-bomber from Kubinka Air Base near Moscow


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/46/120804605.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_7.html)


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev flew in this Su-34 fighter-bomber


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/44/120804496.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_8.html)


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev flew in this Su-34 fighter-bomber, background

How many Su-34 does RuAf have in service?

void
03-31-2009, 05:34 AM
How many Su-34 does RuAf have in service?

2, but NAPO just finished retooling their plant and are starting the serial production of the Su-34.

civilriot2009
03-31-2009, 05:53 AM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/rhesus1/scan0006copy2va6.jpg

Maybe Pak-Fa???
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/rhesus1/85909393.jpg

void
03-31-2009, 06:06 AM
Thats a Su-27, either that or the Pak-FA will be VERY similar, have a look at this pic:

http://www.suchoj.com/ab1953/Su-27/riss/Su-27_RussianKnights_08.jpg

You can see the similarities, namely the spine shape and the proportions. Also the
tail fins start at the same point where there is a bulge in airframe for the engines
in both pics.

civilriot2009
03-31-2009, 06:22 AM
Thats a Su-27, either that or the Pak-FA will be VERY similar, have a look at this pic:

http://www.suchoj.com/ab1953/Su-27/riss/Su-27_RussianKnights_08.jpg

You can see the similarities, namely the spine shape and the proportions. Also the
tail fins start at the same point where there is a bulge in airframe for the engines
in both pics.

Hmmmm....yea. Its not PakFa

Xaito
03-31-2009, 07:56 AM
Thats a Su-27

looks more like a Mig-35 to me

void
03-31-2009, 08:01 AM
looks more like a Mig-35 to me

Too big to be a Mig-35, and the spine is wrong, look at the Mig-35 spine:
http://www.algerlablanche.com/actualite/IMG/jpg/MIG35_face.jpg

It stays fat and pretty raised all the way to the end

civilriot2009
03-31-2009, 08:02 AM
The interesting thing is at 5:00. A "tank" with a jet engine on it. Its a real offroad animal.

http://www.youtube.com/v/TrNkV6kVPos

civilriot2009
03-31-2009, 08:11 AM
looks more like a Mig-35 to me

Definitely not Mig-35. Tail fin is different form pic i posted.
http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/4842/Mig-35.jpg
Has to be su-27.....

xav
03-31-2009, 10:41 AM
Did any SU34 flew combat missions in Georgia?

sepheronx
03-31-2009, 10:45 AM
Did any SU34 flew combat missions in Georgia?
as far as anyone is aware of, no. And anyway, with only 2 in service, I doubt they would use them in that combat. Mainly SU-24's where used in for the roll of strategic bombing.

Edit: My mistake (thanks Armenian), there are 3 SU-34's.

TheArmenian
03-31-2009, 10:46 AM
There are 3 Su-34s in service. Not 2. Medvedev flew in the 3rd one that was delivered late last year.

Bachelor
03-31-2009, 12:31 PM
There are 3 Su-34s in service. Not 2. Medvedev flew in the 3rd one that was delivered late last year.

Actually not 3. Three only in Lipetsk RuAF War Center.

SU-34/32FN Fullback Long range fighter-bomber

Total number (active): 11
Inventory:
AF/AD: Su-34, 11, accepted in AF, delivery started December 2006, 2 ac delivered. (acc to other sources -in December 2003) Stopped. 2006: program restarted. 01.03/2009: 11 ac delivered to Lipetsk, Astrakhan, Zhukovsky and Novosibirsk distr bases for flight tests. Planned 70+ (2015).

Onboard numbers:
№ not number (for static tests)
№ 42
№ 43
№ 44 - 343
№ 45 - 349
№ 46
№ 47
№ 48
№ 49 - 01
№ 02
№ 03

XRR496
03-31-2009, 12:53 PM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1562/83328033.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8796/84036289.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7532/35600147.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5613/86707347.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1993/88730824.jpg


http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1639/63874326.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9611/83454964.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4922/88173716.jpg

Masakari
03-31-2009, 01:33 PM
^^^^

Is this a new command vehicle ?

medo
03-31-2009, 01:34 PM
This MT-LBu looks like air defense command post. With which systems they will work?

Digimon
03-31-2009, 02:13 PM
Did any SU34 flew combat missions in Georgia?

Yes.

Source: http://www.vko.ru/DesktopModules/Articles/ArticlesView.aspx?tabID=320&ItemID=269&mid=2893&wversion=Staging

AlexMartin2
03-31-2009, 03:09 PM
Yes.

Source: http://www.vko.ru/DesktopModules/Articles/ArticlesView.aspx?tabID=320&ItemID=269&mid=2893&wversion=Staging

I dont know, so much in this article is BS, so I dont think we can trust it about Su-34.

Moskit
03-31-2009, 03:21 PM
Yes your right, but why not to use Su34 ?
Thats a pefect place to test new things.

Dark-Angel25
03-31-2009, 03:23 PM
Actually not 3. Three only in Lipetsk RuAF War Center.

SU-34/32FN Fullback Long range fighter-bomber

Total number (active): 11
Inventory:
AF/AD: Su-34, 11, accepted in AF, delivery started December 2006, 2 ac delivered. (acc to other sources -in December 2003) Stopped. 2006: program restarted. 01.03/2009: 11 ac delivered to Lipetsk, Astrakhan, Zhukovsky and Novosibirsk distr bases for flight tests. Planned 70+ (2015).

Onboard numbers:
№ not number (for static tests)
№ 42
№ 43
№ 44 - 343
№ 45 - 349
№ 46
№ 47
№ 48
№ 49 - 01
№ 02
№ 03
Thanx for the detalied info.

Mr.Woland
03-31-2009, 03:34 PM
^^^^
Is this a new command vehicle ?

With which systems they will work?
Most looks like listening-in station or jamming station.

-Julik- 4.GdKp
03-31-2009, 04:42 PM
Pantsir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt2hEaKLULE&feature=related

SS-18 Satan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W7p3pBPmYA&feature=related

'Admiral Penteleev' in Somalia
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/army/0028660/

Spetsnaz exercise
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/army/0028689/



New Il-476 transport plane
http://www.arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=68739&cid=25


ps: Superb photos guys!!!

xav
03-31-2009, 06:30 PM
Pantsir

Why do they show a Mirage 2000 and not a US plane getting shot down :|

Moskit
03-31-2009, 06:40 PM
Wow what an incredible footage in the pantsir Video !!!

SniperLane
03-31-2009, 06:41 PM
Yes your right, but why not to use Su34 ?
Thats a pefect place to test new things.

you say it like it was somekind of livefire exercise... p-)

Mr.Woland
03-31-2009, 06:53 PM
Why do they show a Mirage 2000 and not a US plane getting shot down :|
Coz this video from testing in United Arab Emirates or Saudi.

Papah
03-31-2009, 08:17 PM
Are there english subtitles for the film "Olympus Inferno" about Russia-Georgia war?

xav
03-31-2009, 08:28 PM
Are there english subtitles for the film "Olympus Inferno" about Russia-Georgia war?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=145019&page=99

K-5
03-31-2009, 08:29 PM
you say it like it was somekind of livefire exercise... p-)
Because there are no Su-34s in active service, and planes given to Lipetsk are used to develop tactics and methodology manuals.

evb58362
03-31-2009, 09:01 PM
Nevertheless, pilots from the Lipetsk and Akhtubinsk test centers did participate in the war, probably because they were among the few with enough experience. There are certainly rumors about the Su-34 having taken part and, honestly, I would not find this surprising.

As for the numbers, there are in fact only three serially produced Su-34s and even these were not produced from scratch, but completed from the pre-production batch. The latest numbers for the RuAF Su-34 order puts it at 32.

Digimon
04-01-2009, 01:22 AM
I dont know, so much in this article is BS, so I dont think we can trust it about Su-34.

Well. Given that no source of the information used in analysis had been given, it is possible; but I do not believe that this is sufficient to warrant scepticism.

VKO is published by VPK-media, which is partnered with Concern PVO Almaz-Antey; it appears to be their media-wing. The publishing house had been recognized for its contributions by the Military Academy and the Ministry of Defence (source: http://www.vpk-media.ru/awards.aspx (http://www.vpk-media.ru/awards.aspx)). Unintentional errors aside, I have little reason to doubt the veracity of a serious publication like VKO or its confidence in its analysts.

During discussions of this analysis, it has been pointed out that a wing of Mig-25PB/Su-24MP, a wing of Su-27, and a wing of Su-24M (including a pair of Su-34) were used from 968th aviation regiment at Lipetsk (with relocation to Mozdok and Budenovsk).

Vovka
04-01-2009, 02:49 AM
for the description of this interesting weapon - look it up on www.world.guns.ru (http://www.world.guns.ru)

pictures belong to Maxim Popenker -the creator of the site

shardana
04-01-2009, 05:40 AM
Pantsir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt2hEaKLULE&feature=related

SS-18 Satan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W7p3pBPmYA&feature=related

'Admiral Penteleev' in Somalia
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/army/0028660/

Spetsnaz exercise
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/army/0028689/



New Il-476 transport plane
http://www.arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=68739&cid=25


ps: Superb photos guys!!!
Is it Il-476 an extensively upgrade of Il-76?
Will it be in competition with the MTA russoindian program?

vad_tfk
04-01-2009, 06:36 AM
Why do they show a Mirage 2000 and not a US plane getting shot down :|
Cuz those SAM carrier was developed for the Middle East market, mainly for UAE army (in Middle East region Israel has Mirages)...Commercial trick

Mr. Voland, sorry for Баян

Jippo
04-01-2009, 07:53 AM
Why do they show a Mirage 2000 and not a US plane getting shot down :|

I find it more interesting to see thaat you think they should shoot down US planes. Why is that?

Fasatron
04-01-2009, 08:11 AM
New photos from SPM-3, SPM-2 Tigr, BTR-90 and BTR-80

http://search.rg.ru/gall/ef6abd50

And photos Russian Army Antiterrortraining

http://search.rg.ru/gall/ae4cce29

Dark-Angel25
04-01-2009, 09:18 AM
President Medvedev visits Kubinka Air Base(Part II)

http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804531.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_9.html)


President Medvedev was also shown a Beriev A-50 Mainstay long-range reconnaissance aircraft, Yakovlev Yak-130 and Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29-UB Fulcrum combat trainers, a Su-25 Frogfoot ground attack aircraft, MiG-29-SMT Fulcrum and Su-27-SM Flanker fighters, a revamped MiG-31-BM Foxhound fighter-interceptor and a Su-24-M fencer tactical bomber


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804578.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_10.html)


President Medvedev subsequently inspected the cargo hold and cockpit of a Mil Mi-26 Halo transport helicopter, climbed inside the cockpit of an ANSAT light multi-role helicopter and inspected the Kamov Ka-50 Hokum A (Black Shark) and Ka-52 Hokum B (Alligator), Mi-8 Hip, Mi-28 Havoc and Mi-24 Hind combat helicopters


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804540.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_11.html)


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev inspected operational and advanced military equipment at Kubinka Air Base near Moscow.



http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804573.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_12.html)


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev inspected operational and advanced military equipment at Kubinka Air Base near Moscow


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804549.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_13.html)


March 28, 2009. From left: Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Russian Air Force Commander Alexander Zelin inspecting operational and advanced military equipment at Kubinka Air Base near Moscow


http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804506.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026_14.html)

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev inspected operational and advanced military equipment at Kubinka Air Base near Moscow.

http://img.rian.ru/images/12080/45/120804599.jpg (http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090330/120805026-others.html)

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev flew in this Su-34 fighter-bomber

When will Russia retire its aging Su-24?

xav
04-01-2009, 09:40 AM
I find it more interesting to see thaat you think they should shoot down US planes. Why is that?

Because this weapon system is a lot more likely to be faced to US planes than French ones in case of war.


Russian President Dmitry Medvedev flew in this Su-34 fighter-bomber
Did he try the bathroom? p-)

Holycrusader
04-01-2009, 09:42 AM
When will Russia retire its aging Su-24?


Whats wrong with Su-24? ie Poland still use Su-22...

Dark-Angel25
04-01-2009, 09:46 AM
[quote=InetWarrior;4027855]Whats wrong with Su-24?
There is nothing wrong with those planes but they are too G*ddamn old(like 35+ old) and not so good maintained( i read on another forum). Btw i read somewhere that Su-34 should replace them but so far only 3 have been build.

ie Poland still use Su-22...i didn't know that lol.Still getting spare parts from Russia?

Holycrusader
04-01-2009, 09:49 AM
[quote]
There is nothing wrong with those planes but they are too G*ddamn old(like 35+ old) and not so good maintained( i read on another forum). Btw i read somewhere that Su-34 should replace them but so far only 3 have been build.
i didn't know that lol.Still getting spare parts from Russia?

Do you heard about B-52's? Thats g*ddamn old planes, but they still do they job great...

Ps. Yes we can get spare parts from Russia, but we should get quaite a lot of spare planes for those Su-22 that still flying..

shardana
04-01-2009, 11:07 AM
Actually not 3. Three only in Lipetsk RuAF War Center.

SU-34/32FN Fullback Long range fighter-bomber

Total number (active): 11
Inventory:
AF/AD: Su-34, 11, accepted in AF, delivery started December 2006, 2 ac delivered. (acc to other sources -in December 2003) Stopped. 2006: program restarted. 01.03/2009: 11 ac delivered to Lipetsk, Astrakhan, Zhukovsky and Novosibirsk distr bases for flight tests. Planned 70+ (2015).

Onboard numbers:
№ not number (for static tests)
№ 42
№ 43
№ 44 - 343
№ 45 - 349
№ 46
№ 47
№ 48
№ 49 - 01
№ 02
№ 03
These number justify a possible use in Georgian conflict.
Check this:
http://freebsd48.googlepages.com/AirDominanceMissileDesign.pdf
Is any similar concept (dual use missile A/A-A/G) under development in Russia for PAK-FA or SU-35,MIG35?

vad_tfk
04-01-2009, 12:45 PM
whats wrong with su-24? Ie poland still use su-22...
su-22m aik

K-5
04-01-2009, 02:03 PM
[quote]
There is nothing wrong with those planes but they are too G*ddamn old(like 35+ old) and not so good maintained( i read on another forum). Btw i read somewhere that Su-34 should replace them but so far only 3 have been build.
i didn't know that lol.Still getting spare parts from Russia?More like 20 to 25 years old if you consider most of them to be Fencer D's and they are maintained as good as financing of Air Forces in past 15 years allows.
Apparently, Fencer fleet will be upgraded to M2 standard until it's either phased out all along by Fullback or some combination of Fullback and specialized Flanker E units. Currently, it's the only aircraft in tangible numbers capable of SEAD and long range pinpoint strikes in VVS disposal. If they manage to overhaul it's avionics and perhaps give it new engines, AL-31?, Fencers can easily soldier on for next decade. This plane is SO versatile.

Whats wrong with Su-24? ie Poland still use Su-22...
Really? Russian AF phased them out two years ago.
Final Flight. This plane should be displayed in Monino museum
Photo is property of Aleksandr Melihov
http://airforce.ru/photogallery/melihov/su-17um3/am_su17um3.jpg

TheArmenian
04-01-2009, 02:07 PM
PP-2000 submachine gun

http://en.rian.ru/video/20090401/120861319.html

Dark-Angel25
04-01-2009, 02:29 PM
More like 20 to 25 years old if you consider most of them to be Fencer D's and they are maintained as good as financing of Air Forces in past 15 years allows.
Apparently, Fencer fleet will be upgraded to M2 standard until it's either phased out all along by Fullback or some combination of Fullback and specialized Flanker E units. Currently, it's the only aircraft in tangible numbers capable of SEAD and long range pinpoint strikes in VVS disposal. If they manage to overhaul it's avionics and perhaps give it new engines, AL-31?, Fencers can easily solder on for next decade. This plane is SO versatile.

I stand corrected.Thanx for the info.

Fasatron
04-01-2009, 02:34 PM
Russian Gear, from Splav

http://photofile.name/users/goplit75/150009391/

TheArmenian
04-01-2009, 04:46 PM
Interesting info-video about Su-34

http://**********/tracks/1701187.html?v=356383c386ee3e2cbffc98db5a58fdc7

Video about BAZ trucks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA7ryLzhrOI

Osobeast
04-01-2009, 06:28 PM
Repost from this thread. (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4028928#post4028928)

Some fresh photos of the Sukhoi SuperJet and Su-35BM. (credits to all photos, except of the first, goes to YurySt from airbase.ru)

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6638/ssjfig.jpg

April, 1 - two SSJ prototypes arrived to the Gromov's Flight Test Center( Zhukovskiy, Moscow region) for the final flight tests and certification.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/88/ssj01.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2677/ssj02.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5503/ssj03.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4208/ssj04.jpg

Hyde
04-01-2009, 06:37 PM
Escort, in case some georgian drone shows up :D

What is the thing the arrow is pointing at?

But daamn this plane looks small, next to a su-35...

Bro Jangles
04-01-2009, 06:40 PM
Escort, in case some georgian drone shows up :D

What is the thing the arrow is pointing at?

But daamn this plane looks small, next to a su-35...i say, photo op to maximize exposure for the company. or a chase plane

Flankerman
04-01-2009, 06:41 PM
[quote=Dark-Angel25;4027862]This plane should be displayed in Monino museum
Photo is property of Aleksandr Melihov
http://airforce.ru/photogallery/melihov/su-17um3/am_su17um3.jpg

It was being prepared for display when I photographed it in August 2007...

http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2007_files/day01_005.jpg

Ken

void
04-01-2009, 06:57 PM
I think thats Sukhois own chase plane.

Osobeast
04-01-2009, 06:59 PM
But daamn this plane looks small, next to a su-35...

You're right.
THe SSJ has a length of 30 meters, and Su-35BM - 22.

K-5
04-01-2009, 07:35 PM
I think thats Sukhois own chase plane.
Single seater used for chasing? Nah, that's Very Very Important Person sections supplied separate of the masses compartment in SSJ:). It's not SSJ being small, it's Flanker's 14.7m wingspan, besides when it comes to airliners cross section of the fuselage and rational use of space beneath the skin is what counts, size wise, and apparently Sukhoi folks got it all right.

K-5
04-01-2009, 07:39 PM
[quote=K-5;4028303]

It was being prepared for display when I photographed it in August 2007...

Ken

Good to know, Ken. New tool Fitter in 48th scale is so long overdue. Damn double post again:cantbeli:

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Is it Il-476 an extensively upgrade of Il-76?
Will it be in competition with the MTA russoindian program?


The Il-476 must be bigger ...so it will be not in competition with the MTA.

Hyde
04-01-2009, 08:21 PM
i say, photo op to maximize exposure for the company. or a chase plane

both, but i was being sarcastic ;)




You're right.
THe SSJ has a length of 30 meters, and Su-35BM - 22.

Standing alone it looks like a 737...okay i just checked, the 737 is only 30m long, too...they always look so big, I hardly notice size differences between 737s,320s, 767s etc...they all look the same to me... now I'm amazed by how small they are compared to a Flanker..or how big the flanker must be to let them appear so small.

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-01-2009, 08:28 PM
VDV exercise
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/army/0028776/

SPM-3 and BTR-90
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/science/0028734/

SSJ witch Su-35's
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/0028838/

New living quaters for navy servicemen
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/army/0028761/

void
04-01-2009, 10:25 PM
Single seater used for chasing? Nah, that's Very Very Important Person sections supplied separate of the masses compartment in SSJ:). It's not SSJ being small, it's Flanker's 14.7m wingspan, besides when it comes to airliners cross section of the fuselage and rational use of space beneath the skin is what counts, size wise, and apparently Sukhoi folks got it all right.

I was talking about the Su-22 being Sukhois own chase plane

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-02-2009, 03:25 PM
11 years old Yasen (Sewerodvinsk) official renders from KB Malahit...the project on the pics is no more actual but still interesting.

http://s59.radikal.ru/i165/0903/d6/2da7b42605fb.jpg

http://i080.radikal.ru/0903/e3/a9952df18014.jpg

http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/0903/ec/6efb6543dada.jpg

http://paralay.iboards.ru/download/file.php?style=12&id=1597&mode=view

Karaahmetoglu
04-02-2009, 03:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOzp7iL-QHI

Very awesome Aerobatics

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-02-2009, 04:13 PM
Boots for regular army from Haix!!


http://www.airsoftgun.ru/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=45452&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=820

Moskit
04-02-2009, 05:41 PM
Boots for regular army from Haix!!


http://www.airsoftgun.ru/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=45452&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=820

WTF :cantbeli:

Hyde
04-02-2009, 06:51 PM
wtf to the new or the broken ones?

mannelig
04-02-2009, 06:58 PM
Boots for regular army from Haix!!


http://www.airsoftgun.ru/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=45452&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=820

Anyway these boots are better than Kirzachi.

GazB
04-02-2009, 07:15 PM
70 NM range for AIRST seems an exaggeration but it anyway depends by enviromental condition (bad weather,clouds etc.)
Anyway use of thermal sensor will create problem to the stealth fighters they cannot reduce emission to zero, sensor fusion too could be a challenge.

Mig-29 and Su-27 had sensor fusion decades ago. The Helmet mounted sight and radar and IRST were all linked together and together could be used against air targets. Instead of scanning with radar for targets you could passively look with the IRST. Once the IRST got a lock the radar could be aimed directly at the target without scanning for it first (the angular accuracy of IRST is actually better than the angular accuracy of a radar). The target might notice the quarter second blip of the ranging ping from the radar but it might equally be lost in all the other noise on the battlefield.

BTW the altitudes a stealth aircraft can supercruise the IRST will be ideal.


svd 20 mag

Thanks for posting that. I had seen under the SVDS advertisements that they were going to use 15 round mags as option, but 20 would be better, especially for full auto capable bullpup version SVDU.


Mainly SU-24's where used in for the roll of strategic bombing.

The role if SU-24 and Su-34 is deep strike or theatre strike. They were supported by Tu22M3 which carried heavier loads (ie x3) or could fly further, and the Mig-27 and Su-17 with half the load on shorter strike missions.


Yes your right, but why not to use Su34 ?
Thats a pefect place to test new things.

I doubt they have finished developing the operations manual let alone developed operations tactics. Equally they would need a ready supply of smart weapons for it to deploy operationally. Speed of reaction was more important than sending in the best. If the Russians had planned the war then they certainly would have had the Su-34s and Mi-28Ns and probably even T-95s and BMD-4s there for an operational test.


Why do they show a Mirage 2000 and not a US plane getting shot down

Because the test target was a Mirage. It might perhaps indicate who they are trying to sell the system to, or it reflects the target drones available.


When will Russia retire its aging Su-24?

Will start retiring the older models now, but some will get an upgrade to Su-24M2 standard so they can keep operating while the Su-34 is introduced slowly.


There is nothing wrong with those planes but they are too G*ddamn old(like 35+ old) and not so good maintained( i read on another forum). Btw i read somewhere that Su-34 should replace them but so far only 3 have been build.

There is no current threat that warrants speeding up the replacement, but they are being either replaced or upgraded as we speak.


Really? Russian AF phased them out two years ago.

Those Su-22s were only being used in specific roles and not as general light strike fighterbombers. Just like the Jammer versions of the Su-24 will continue in service till a Jammer model of Su-34 can be developed.


What is the thing the arrow is pointing at?

I would guess it is a bumper to prevent the fuselage contacting the ground during steep takeoffs or steep landings (ie high alpha on ground)

BTW Flankers are big.

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-02-2009, 08:07 PM
Anyway these boots are better than Kirzachi.
Well in germany only SF can get such boots,and that with luck...so russian servicemen can be really happy!

Xaito
04-02-2009, 08:21 PM
Well in germany only SF can get such boots
eh? what's so special about them?
They look quite similar to the standard issue BW Kampfstiefel...

Nuclear_Warrior
04-02-2009, 09:31 PM
Can anyone identify the patch of this soldier? Thanks in advance!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3424/an94.jpg

Those AN-94 look good!

Karpov360
04-03-2009, 12:17 AM
Ooo, what kind of camo is that?



Sexy gun..

AlexMartin2
04-03-2009, 12:26 AM
Interior troops maybe? Camo looks like for MVD.

JohnnyWalker
04-03-2009, 12:47 AM
Gun is An-94 Abakan, very old photo.
I thought at one point the guy named RomanS said this was a guy from ...I'm not sure how to say this but.... one of the sub groups of Vityaz.

JohnnyWalker
04-03-2009, 01:04 AM
324th Motorized Infantry Polk Activities in 1995.
Translated from Russian to English

Your welcome. read it in Russian here

(http://chechnya.genstab.ru/art_324reg.htm)
Lessons of the First Chechen campaignУроки Первой чеченской кампании



Operations of 324th motor-shooting regiment in 1995 Боевые действия 324-го мотострелкового полка в 1995 г.
Georgii Aleksandrovich Skipsky - канд. ист. Sciences, the teacher of the Ekaterinburg branch of Academy of the state fire service of the Ministry of Emergency Measures of the Russian Federation, the major of internal service (Ekaterinburg). Took part in operations in the Chechen republic as a part of 324th motor-shooting regiment as the assistant koman-dira 3-н минометной batteries on work with staff during the period from January, 21st till May, 10th, 1995 Георгии Александрович Скипский - канд. ист. наук, преподаватель Екатеринбургского филиала Академии государственной противопожарной службы МЧС РФ, майор внутренней службы (г. Екатеринбург). Принимал участие в боевых действиях в Чеченской республике в составе 324-го мотострелкового полка в должности заместителя коман-дира 3-н минометной батареи по работе с личным составом в период с 21 января по 10 мая 1995 г.
The Russian history repeatedly proved that its lessons начитают to be considered only after numerous repetition of the errors admitted by predecessors. The same incident has occurred and to the First Chechen campaign, though. It would seem, our country already had bitter experience of war in Afghanistan, and our grandfathers have paid its expensive price for Great Patriotic War fields. Российская история неоднократно доказывала, что ее уроки начитают учитываться только после неоднократного повторения ошибок, допущенных предшественниками. Такой же казус произошел и с Первой чеченской кампанией, хотя. казалось бы, наша страна уже имела горький опыт войны в Афганистане, а наши деды оплатили его слишком дорогой ценой на полях Великой Отечественной.
Undoubtedly that, making of the decision on input of the Russian armies in the Chechen republic, the higher military and political country leaders did not realise consequences of this step. Moreover, which time has prevailed "шапкозакидательское" mood. The military party of operation at all plainly has been planned. Acknowledgement to that can become, the following example: during the first period of campaign which can be defined chronological frameworks: December, 1994 - March, 1995, supply of federal grouping in republic occurred in большей to a measure a self-maintenance method. It meant that military men often received the most part of a foodstuff not on field-kitchens, in summary requisitions at local population. Quality of a food in the first days was below any criticism. At march fulfilment in 324th shelf to the fighter a day relied bank of tinned pearl-barley porridge with meat (more precisely, with a hint on presence of that) and third of loaf of frozen bread. The lack of a foodstuff was compensated for the account of stocks of the population prepared for winter and thrown in houses at flight of Chechens of flat auls in mountain areas where operations were developed only in May, 1995 Несомненно, что, принимая решение о вводе российских войск в Чеченскую республику, высшее военное и политическое руководство страны не осознавало последствий этого шага. Более того, который раз возобладало "шапкозакидательское" настроение. Военная сторона операции вообще не была толком спланирована. Подтверждением тому может стать, следующий пример: в первый период кампании, который условно можно определить хронологическими рамками: декабрь 1994 г. - март 1995 г., снабжение федеральной группировки в республике происходило в большей мере методом самообеспечения. Это означало, что большую часть продуктов питания военнослужащие часто получали не на полевых кухнях, а в результате реквизиций у местного населения. Качество питания в первые дни было ниже всякой критики. При совершении марша в 324-м полку бойцу в сутки полагалась банка консервированной перловой каши с мясом (точнее, с намеком на присутствие такового) и треть буханки мороженого хлеба. Недостаток продуктов питания компенсировался за счет запасов населения, заготовленных на зиму и брошенных в домах при бегстве чеченцев равнинных аулов в горные районы, где боевые действия развернулись только в мае 1995 г.
It is possible to result and other example. Strange application for army operation of parts from all military districts seems if to start with use of an element of surprise. Reduction of parts of the North Caucasian military district in full alertness and their re-deployment to borders of the Chechen republic could be spent to more short terms, than a transfer of military echelons from Ural Mountains or Transbaikalia. It is possible to object, of course, on it to that the facts of transportation of military echelons with technics and staff would remain are unknown to D.Dudaev, but such position became similar on ostrich's if to start with modern possibilities of conducting investigation, and also familiarity of the Chechen management about plans of the Kremlin. When our echelon stood on alternate routes near to Mineral Waters, постовой precautionary shots has stopped attempt to come nearer to it groups of suspects which wandered at night round an echelon which was far enough from a city. That is even before arrival of our echelon to an unloading place about it already there was an information at дудаевских informers. At night on January, 21st, 1995, at echelon unloading at station Terek (republic North Ossetia), at us have fired, therefore one of soldiers has got wound in a foot. So hospitably we were met by the North Caucasus and the first day of stay. Можно привести и другой пример. Странным кажется применение для войсковой операции частей со всех военных округов, если исходить из использования фактора внезапности. Приведение частей Северо-Кавказского военного округа в полную боевую готовность и их передислокация к границам Чеченской республики могли быть проведены в более краткие сроки, чем переброска воинских эшелонов с Урала или Забайкалья. Можно, конечно, возразить на это тем, что факты перевозки воинских эшелонов с техникой и личным составом остались бы неизвестны Д. Дудаеву, но такая позиция становилась похожей на страусиную, если исходить из современных возможностей ведения разведки, а также хорошей осведомленности чеченского руководства о планах Кремля. Когда наш эшелон стоял на запасных путях недалеко от г. Минеральные Воды, постовой предупредительными выстрелами пресек попытку приблизиться к нему группы подозрительных лиц, которые в ночное время бродили вокруг эшелона, находившегося достаточно далеко от города. То есть еще до прибытия нашего эшелона к месту разгрузки о нем уже имелась информация у дудаевских осведомителей. Ночью 21 января 1995 г., при разгрузке эшелона на станции Терек (республика Северная Осетия), нас обстреляли, в результате чего один из солдат получил ранение в ногу. Так гостеприимно нас встретил Северный Кавказ а первый день пребывания.
On January, 22nd, 1995 divisions of 324th regiment were built in a marching column, have made a march through the Tersky ridge and have settled down near to village Tolstoy-yurtas that approximately in 20 km from Grozny. Unlike 276th motor-shooting regiment which after an unloading of technics and a long march has been thrown at once on storm of Grozny, week on carrying out fighting слаживания has been given our regiment to avoid the big losses what were incurred by our fellow countrymen from 276th regiment н Grozny. It has really yielded positive results as it has appeared subsequently. Really, if us as have thrown in fight, as well as 276th regiment losses would be even more, than in it. The matter is that for completion of 276th regiment of officers sent with all 34th motor-shooting division, therefore they at least visually knew each other and the soldiers, 324th regiment has been generated as follows: Almost completely, except for 4 persons who have remained in constant structure of a regiment on the beginning of 1995, the officers have been completed at the expense of parts of garrisons of Ekaterinburg, the Top Pyshma, Elani, Tchebarkul - i.e. almost from all Ural military district. As replenishment, from Transbaikalian military district with the private soldier and partially officers transport planes have been sent from garrison Gusinoozerska. Thus, officers of 324th regiment at first did not know by sight even each other, without speaking already about the subordinated soldiers with whom they soon should go into battle. 22 января 1995 г. подразделения 324-го полка выстроились в походную колонну, совершили марш через Терский хребет и расположились недалеко от села Толстой-Юрт, что примерно в 20 км от г. Грозный. В отличие от 276-го мотострелкового полка, который после выгрузки техники и длительного марша сразу был брошен на штурм Грозного, нашему полку была дана неделя на проведение боевого слаживания, чтобы избежать больших потерь, какие понесли наши земляки из 276-го полка н Грозном. Это действительно дало положительные результаты, как оказалось впоследствии. Действительно, если бы нас так же бросили в бой, как и 276-й полк, то потери были бы еще больше, чем в нем. Дело в том, что для укомплектования 276-го полка офицеров командировали со всей 34-й мотострелковой дивизии, поэтому они хотя бы визуально знали друг друга и своих солдат, 324-й полк был сформирован следующим образом: почти полностью, за исключением 4 человек, оставшихся в постоянном составе полка на начало 1995 г., офицерский состав был укомплектован за счет частей гарнизонов Екатеринбурга, Верхней Пышмы, Елани, Чебаркуля - т.е. почти со всего Уральского военного округа. В качестве пополнения, из Забайкальского военного округа были высланы транспортные самолеты с рядовым и частично офицерским составом из гарнизона Гусиноозерска. Таким образом, офицеры 324-го полка первое время не знали в лицо даже друг друга, не говоря уже про своих подчиненных солдат, с которыми им вскоре предстояло идти в бой.
Operations in a campaign initial stage have shown that the control system of armies for performance of fighting problems at all does not approach for the military-political conditions which have developed in the Chechen republic. Performance of elementary maneuver or the decision of the nearest tactical problem needed the coordination of actions at level, at least, a staff of incorporated grouping of federal forces in republic. At the same time, insurgents extremely seldom committed to battle forces more largely a company or a battalion that did their actions rather unpredictable for the Russian armies, complicated supervision, not to mention possibility of carrying out of investigation. Боевые действия в начальный период кампании показали, что система управления войсками для выполнения боевых задач совсем не подходит для военно-политической обстановки, сложившейся в Чеченской республике. Для выполнения элементарного маневра или решения ближайшей тактической задачи требовалось согласование действий на уровне, как минимум, штаба объединенной группировки федеральных сил в республике. В то же время, боевики крайне редко вводили в бой силы крупнее роты или батальона, что делало их действия весьма непредсказуемыми для российских войск, затрудняло наблюдение, не говоря уже о возможности проведения разведки.
Application of small groups, usually as a part of the machine gunner, the sniper and гранатометчика became a favorite method of the Chechen insurgents. Гранатометчик the sniper - officers amazed the armour technics, and the machine gunner created a fire barrier for the organised exit of a three from a zone of reciprocal fire of the Russian divisions. Such tactics was applied by separatists not only in Grozny, but also in collisions with federal forces in field conditions, and in particular during approach of 1st and 3rd motor-rifle battalions of 324th regiment in the middle of March, 1995 around settlements the Chechen-aul and Old Atagi about what it will be told later in more details. Излюбленным приемом чеченских боевиков стало применение мелких групп, обычно в составе пулеметчика, снайпера и гранатометчика. Гранатометчик поражал бронированную технику, снайпер - офицеров, а пулеметчик создавал огневой заслон для организованного выхода тройки из зоны ответного огня российских подразделений. Такая тактика применялась сепаратистами не только в Грозном, но и в столкновениями с федеральными силами в полевых условиях, и в частности в ходе наступления 1-го и 3-го мотострелковых батальонов 324-го полка в середине марта 1995 г. в районе населенных пунктов Чечен-Аул и Старые Атаги, о чем более подробно будет сказано позже.
At this conjuncture the successful issue of the combat for the Russian armies was reached only in the event that the commander of a part or division took responsibility on itself and made the decision, proceeding from direct conditions which varied much faster, than to it could react in a staff of incorporated grouping. Most regiment promotion in area of settlements Gikalovsky and a Chechen-aul, begun in the morning on February, 3rd, 1995 from Adjunction area (east suburb Grozny) became a vivid example. Its purpose consisted in full blocking Grozny from the south where till specified time, since the moment of storm of the Chechen capital, "the green corridor" on which of a city civilians should be evacuated operated so-called. Actually, this corridor has been used that подпитывать insurgents in Grozny by replenishment, an ammunition, the foodstuffs, to evacuate wounded men on confidential bases in high-mountainous areas. В сложившихся условиях успешный исход боя для российских войск достигался только в том случае, если командир части или подразделения брал ответственность на себя и принимал решение, исходя из непосредственной обстановки, которая менялась значительно быстрее, чем на нее могли отреагировать в штабе объединенной группировки. Наиболее ярким примером стало выдвижение полка в район поселков Гикаловский и Чечен-Аул, начавшееся утром 3 февраля 1995 г. из района Примыкания (восточная окраина г. Грозный). Его цель заключалась в полном блокировании г. Грозный с юга, где до указанного времени, начиная с момента штурма чеченской столицы, действовал так называемый "зеленый коридор", по которому из города должны были эвакуироваться мирные жители. На самом деле, этот коридор был использован для того, чтобы подпитывать боевиков в Грозном пополнением, боеприпасами, продовольствием, эвакуировать раненых на секретные базы в высокогорных районах.
The given corridor was formed also because there was paradoxical from the point of view of military art a picture. The federal armies surrounding a city in the first months, had no superiority in strength over the insurgents which quantity on the beginning of operations in republic has made about 35 thousand persons (of them about 15 thousand the so-called presidential guards made, the others were a part of a local home guard) while the incorporated grouping of federal armies totaled about 18,5 thousand persons (the data about number of the contradictory parties are borrowed by me from the military press of that period, and also materials of the military-practical conference which were passing in November, 1995 in Ekaterinburg, organised by a staff of the Ural military district for generalisation of the received experience). At such parity of forces it was not surprising that Grozny has appeared only is partially blocked by federal grouping, and fights for a city proceeded almost two months. Данный коридор образовался еще и потому, что возникла парадоксальная с точки зрения военного искусства картина. Федеральные войска, окружавшие город в первые месяцы, не имели численного превосходства над боевиками, количество которых на начало боевых действий в республике составило около 35 тыс. человек (из них примерно 15 тыс. составляла так называемая президентская гвардия, остальные входили в состав местного ополчения), в то время как объединенная группировка федеральных войск насчитывала примерно 18,5 тыс. человек (данные о численности противоборствующих сторон заимствованы мной из военной прессы того периода, а также материалов военно-практической конференции, проходившей в ноябре 1995 г. в Екатеринбурге, организованной штабом Уральского военного округа для обобщения полученного опыта). При таком соотношении сил было не удивительно, что Грозный оказался только частично блокирован федеральной группировкой, а бои за город продолжались почти два месяца.
Having obtained the order on capture and settlement deduction Gikalovsky, the commander of 324th regiment lieutenant colonel A.V.Sidorov has organised promotion on the roundabout road going along southeast suburbs of Grozny, through suburbs - Petrocrafts and Chernoreche. Without reaching Chernorechja, our column going in avant-guard, has unexpectedly curtailed from a line into a zone лесопосадок and, nestling on soles of dominating heights, the beginnings a twisting snake to creep in "зеленку". When the column has passed no more than 2 km., at it have fired from mortars. Drop mines on big enough removal that allowed to observe a trajectory of their flight and not to be afraid of defeat by splinters (scattering of splinters минометной mines reaches 200 m in radius). It meant that insurgents have noticed our column too late, therefore their fire has appeared not aim. Our advance party as a part of a motor-rife company and two минометных calculations, and also a tank platoon for the speed has passed Chernoreche, on the way сметая not numerous pickets of insurgents, and has directed on highway to settlement Gikalovsky between which and suburbs of Grozny we have not met any serious resistance. When our avant-guard has rushed in Gikalovsky, nobody expected it. Insurgents so have hasty run up that have abandoned all property and documents. In a building court yard there were coppers, in which else smoked hot плов. Fighters, examining a building of breeding state farm where the staff of insurgents settled down, have found lists of staff of group of field commander Isy Madaeva in which zone of responsibility there were southern suburbs of Grozny (at each field commander there was a in advance fixed sector of responsibility that allowed to react rather operatively to movings of federal armies and to arrange against them ambushes). As trophies минометчиков there was a staff van on the basis of ГАЗ-66, and also some complete sets field камуфлированной the form stylised under a mountain national suit. Some insurgents have been taken prisoner and after a short search and interrogation are shot. To send them in back it was not meaningful, as that at us was not. Получив приказ на захват и удержание населенного пункта Гикаловский, командир 324-го полка подполковник А.В.Сидоров организовал выдвижение по обходной дороге, идущей вдоль юго-восточных окраин Грозного, через пригородные районы - Нефтепромыслы и Черноречье. Не доходя до Черноречья, наша колонна, шедшая в авангарде, неожиданно свернула с трассы в зону лесопосадок и, прижимаясь к подошвам господствующих высот, начала извилистой змеей вползать в "зеленку". Когда колонна прошла не более 2 км., ее обстреляли из минометов. Мины падали на достаточно большом удалении, что позволяло наблюдать траекторию их полета и не опасаться поражения осколками (разлет осколков минометной мины достигает 200 м в радиусе). Это означало, что нашу колонну боевики заметили слишком поздно, поэтому их огонь оказался неприцельным. Наш передовой отряд в составе мотострелковой роты и двух минометных расчетов, а также танкового взвода на скорости прошел Черноречье, по пути сметая немногочисленные пикеты боевиков, и устремился по шоссе к поселку Гикаловский, между которым и окраинами Грозного мы не встретили никакого серьезного сопротивления. Когда наш авангард ворвался в Гикаловский, его никто не ожидал. Боевики так поспешно разбежались, что побросали все имущество и документы. Во дворе здания стояли котлы, в которых еще дымился горячий плов. Бойцы, осматривая здание племенного совхоза, где располагался штаб боевиков, нашли списки личного состава отряда полевого командира Исы Мадаева, в зоне ответственности которого находились южные окраины Грозного (у каждого полевого командира был свой заранее закрепленный сектор ответственности, что позволяло весьма оперативно реагировать на перемещения федеральных войск и устраивать против них засады). В качестве трофеев минометчиков стал штабной фургон на базе ГАЗ-66, а также несколько комплектов полевой камуфлированной формы, стилизованной под горский национальный костюм. Несколько боевиков были взяты в плен и после короткого обыска и допроса расстреляны. Отправлять их в тыл не имело смысла, поскольку такового у нас не было.

JohnnyWalker
04-03-2009, 01:04 AM
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After break of 3rd battalion through Chernoreche insurgents have organised more dense fire barrier therefore not all divisions of 324th regiment could slip lost-free "зеленку". In ours минометной to the battery as a result of bombardment the car, груженная has been lined by various field property closing колону. Car remains should be carried on a tow, having fastened its cable to БМП. После прорыва 3-го батальона через Черноречье боевики организовали более плотный огневой заслон, в результате чего не все подразделения 324-го полка смогли без потерь проскочить "зеленку". В нашей минометной батарее в результате обстрела была подбита замыкавшая колону машина, груженная различным полевым имуществом. Останки машины пришлось везти на буксире, прицепив ее тросом к БМП.
Further it was necessary to draw up 5 times the statement on write-off of the car and property being in it. It confirmed once again that bureaucratism in the Russian army prospers even during operations when issue of a suit solves not the document, and real actions of people. Such "trust" that turned out as if we almost have not sold the car with property to the same insurgents has been rendered us. Though the facts of sale of the weapon, technics and an ammunition took place during the first Chechen campaign, but I and my companions about such facts had no the information. It was necessary to confirm repeatedly the fact of loss of property though at the same time from Grozny when the railway communication has been restored, not without the knowledge of the high heads, the whole platforms with cars-foreign cars, home appliances, the furniture stolen in thrown houses both in Grozny, and in other settlements of the Chechen Republic were loaded. As they say, "to whom war and to whom mother is native". В дальнейшем пришлось 5 раз составлять акт на списание машины и находящегося в ней имущества. Это лишний раз подтверждало, что бюрократизм в российской армии процветает даже во время боевых действий, когда исход дела решает не документ, а реальные действия людей. Нам же было оказано такое "доверие", что получалось, будто мы чуть ли не продали машину с имуществом тем же боевикам. Хотя факты продажи оружия, техники и боеприпасов имели место в ходе первой чеченской кампании, но сам я и мои товарищи о таких фактах информацией не располагали. Приходилось многократно подтверждать факт утраты имущества, хотя в то же время из Грозного, когда было восстановлено железнодорожное сообщение, не без ведома высокого начальства, загружались целые платформы с машинами-иномарками, бытовой техникой, мебелью, награбленной в брошенных домах и в Грозном, и в других населенных пунктах Чечни. Как говорится, "кому война, а кому мать родна".
Regiment of marines which should follow 324th regiment, having encountered dense fire of insurgents, too could not support action broken to Gikalovsky our battalion. As a result, by the evening on February, 3rd we have appeared almost in a full environment. It is necessary to tell that if lieutenant colonel A.V.Sidorov has made decision to follow a marching column strictly on the specified route the regiment would have huge losses, and the author of these lines hardly could write them. Полк морской пехоты, который должен был следовать за 324-м полком, натолкнувшись на плотный огонь боевиков, тоже не смог поддержать действия прорвавшегося к Гикаловскому нашего батальона. В результате, к вечеру 3 февраля мы оказались почти в полном окружении. Следует сказать, что если бы подполковник А.В.Сидоров принял решение следовать походной колонной строго по указанному маршруту, то полк понес бы огромные потери, а автор этих строк вряд ли смог бы их написать.
Having come round from the first shock, insurgents have started to pull together the forces to the settlement the Chechen-aul which is in 3 km from Gikalovsky, and therefrom began to disturb us, making periodic bombardments, without allowing to be dug round and take breath easy. So has passed all the night long. In 5 o'clock in the morning on February, 4th, 1995 fight has inflamed with new force. At first insurgents, being covered with a dense veil of a fog, left on thickets карагача and on a channel арыка in back of positions of the tank platoon which was at a crossroads of a line Rostov-on-Don - Baku and highway Grozny - the Oak-yurtas, and almost in an emphasis have shot from grenade cup discharges two tanks, and then have quickly disappeared on the same way, as have come. The destruction of tanks and their crews became a consequence of that at night tanks have appeared without cover of motor-marksmen which have relocated in back, by order of the commander of a regiment for staff cover from outside Urus-Martana. Insurgents shot precisely at the top part of a tower where there is ammunition, therefore explosions were such force that a tower of one of tanks has carried away aside on some tens metres. Pieces of the reservation from other tank have whistled over heads of fighters минометных the calculations one of which was stuck in бруствер an entrenchment where there was a battery management. The commander of the battery the captain V.J.Arbuzov took it and, despite whistle of bullets flying by over our heads, has gone and has shown to its fighters, having put forward thereby powerful "argument" that those tore off entrenchments to the utmost, instead of such which were отрыты by the morning - a maximum to take cover in them sitting from bullets and splinters. Standing under bullets on бруствере an entrenchment, it, muffling noise of shots, used lexicon "approaching" for given conditions, thereby installing in fighters comprehension of necessity of performance of the soldier's duty. Опомнившись от первого потрясения, боевики начали стягивать свои силы к поселку Чечен-Аул, находящемуся в 3 км от Гикаловского, и оттуда стали тревожить нас, совершая периодические обстрелы, не давая спокойно окопаться и перевести дух. Так прошла вся ночь. В 5 часов утра 4 февраля 1995 г. бой разгорелся с новой силой. Сначала боевики, прикрываясь густой пеленой тумана, вышли по зарослям карагача и по руслу арыка в тыл позиций танкового взвода, находившегося на перекрестке трассы Ростов-на-Дону - Баку и шоссе Грозный - Дуба-Юрт, и почти в упор расстреляли из гранатометов два танка, а затем быстро скрылись по тому же пути, что и пришли. Гибель танков и их экипажей стала следствием того, что ночью танки оказались без прикрытия мотострелков, которых передислоцировали в тыл, по приказу командира полка для прикрытия штаба со стороны Урус-Мартана. Боевики стреляли точно в верхнюю часть башни, где находятся боеприпасы, поэтому взрывы были такой силы, что башню одного из танков унесло в сторону на несколько десятков метров. Куски брони от другого танка просвистели над головами бойцов минометных расчетов, один из которых вонзился в бруствер окопа, где находилось управление батареи. Командир батареи капитан В.Ю.Арбузов взял его и, несмотря на свист пролетавших над нашими головами пуль, пошел и показал его своим бойцам, выдвинув тем самым весомый "аргумент" для того, чтобы те отрывали окопы в полный рост, а не такие, которые были отрыты к утру - максимум для того, чтобы укрываться в них сидя от пуль и осколков. Стоя под пулями на бруствере окопа, он, заглушая шум выстрелов, использовал "подходящую" для данной обстановки лексику, тем самым вселяя в бойцов осознание необходимости выполнения своего воинского долга.
Attacks of insurgents to positions of 3rd battalion proceeded within 7 hours. Their direction constantly varied, as the opponent competently enough searched for a weak place in our defence. It has been found from outside Urus-Martana which elders during the beginning of the first Chechen campaign have declared a neutrality provided that federal armies will not enter into settlement. Between Urus-Martanom and Gikalovsky district equal enough, almost flat field with small heights. On it insurgents were developed in a chain and have moved directly on a position минометной batteries which was in the second echelon of a strong point of defence of a battalion. For attack reflexion it was necessary to stop temporarily fire support of the motor-marksmen constraining an impact of the opponent from outside of the Chechen-aul and the Oak-yurta, and to transfer fire on coming chains which went without bending down, directly as in a film "Chapaev". Entrenchments for mortars fighters somehow отрыли even at night, but for themselves were not in time any more, therefore to fire from automatic machines with its full complement could not, without dooming itself to a certain death. Атаки боевиков на позиции 3-го батальона продолжались в течение 7 часов. Их направление постоянно менялось, поскольку противник достаточно грамотно искал слабое место в нашей обороне. Оно было найдено со стороны Урус-Мартана, старейшины которого во время начала первой чеченской кампании заявили о нейтралитете при условии, что федеральные войска не будут входить в поселок. Между Урус-Мартаном и Гикаловским местность достаточно ровная, почти плоское поле с небольшими возвышенностями. На нем боевики развернулись в цепь и двинулись прямо на позиции минометной батареи, которая находилась во втором эшелоне опорного пункта обороны батальона. Для отражения атаки пришлось временно прекратить огневую поддержку мотострелков, сдерживавших натиск противника со стороны Чечен-Аула и Дуба-Юрта, и перенести огонь на наступавшие цепи, которые шли не пригибаясь, прямо как в фильме "Чапаев". Окопы для минометов бойцы кое-как отрыли еще ночью, но для себя уже не успели, поэтому вести огонь из автоматов в полном составе не смогли бы, не обрекая себя на верную смерть.
Some volleys have over open sights suspended advancement of insurgents approximately in 500 m from gun positions минометчиков. During hitch on a gain минометчикам the platoon of motor-marksmen on БМП-1 has approached and joint fire with the battery has disseminated fighting usages дудаевцев. Attempts of insurgents to break deep into our defence by cars were stopped by cross fire from 7,62-mm of the machine guns established on БМП. One of these cars nevertheless has broken through a fire barrier close enough, but metres in hundred from us to it nevertheless have set fire. I saw, how from it insurgents filled with a flame who there and then finished turns of our machine gunners jumped out. Несколько залпов прямой наводкой приостановили продвижение боевиков примерно в 500 м от огневых позиций минометчиков. За время заминки на выручку минометчикам подошел взвод мотострелков на БМП-1 и совместным огнем с батареей рассеял боевые порядки дудаевцев. Попытки боевиков прорваться вглубь нашей обороны на машинах пресекались перекрестным огнем из 7,62-мм пулеметов, установленных на БМП. Одна из этих машин все же прорвалась сквозь огневой заслон достаточно близко, но метрах в ста от нас ее все же подожгли. Я видел, как из нее выскакивали объятые пламенем боевики, которых тут же добивали очереди наших пулеметчиков.
After attack from outside Urus-Martana has broken, insurgents, having dispersed the forces, have tried to strike simultaneously from three parties. Motor-arrows very much were in great need in our fire barrier, therefore tools on минометной to the battery have been distributed on two on each direction, and over their fire officers supervised, being afraid that not skilled tipper-ofs at firing over open sights will cover positions of the companions. During this moment it has appeared that an ammunition to mortars began to run low quickly, therefore it was necessary to adjust urgently the car with mines which was behind a building of a staff of a regiment communication with which has been lost. The captain V.J.Arbuzov has sent me for performance of this task. To tell the truth, it was very terrible to get out of an entrenchment under bullets. But the order needed to be carried out, after all without an ammunition we could not render due support to infantry. In the long term there was a prospect to engage with отъявленными the bandits who have received fighting experience still in Abkhazia while our fighters hardly owned the АКСУ-74, suitable only for near fight (after fight it was found out that against us "the Abkhazian battalion", generated in 1993 Basayev has been thrown well-known). После того, как сорвалась атака со стороны Урус-Мартана, боевики, рассредоточив свои силы, попытались ударить одновременно с трех сторон. Мотострелки очень сильно нуждались в нашем огневом заслоне, поэтому орудия на минометной батарее были распределены по два на каждое направление, а их огнем руководили офицеры, опасаясь, что неопытные наводчики при ведении огня прямой наводкой накроют позиции своих же товарищей. В этот момент оказалось, что боеприпасы к минометам стали быстро иссякать, поэтому нужно было срочно подогнать машину с минами, которая находилась позади здания штаба полка, связь с которым была утрачена. Капитан В.Ю.Арбузов отправил меня для выполнения этого задания. Честно говоря, очень страшно было вылезать из окопа под пули. Но приказ нужно было выполнять, ведь без боеприпасов мы не смогли бы оказать должной поддержки пехоте. В перспективе была перспектива вступить в бой с отъявленными головорезами, получившими боевой опыт еще в Абхазии, в то время как наши бойцы едва владели своими АКСУ-74, пригодными только для ближнего боя (после боя выяснилось, что против нас был брошен хорошо известный "абхазский батальон", сформированный еще в 1993 г. Басаевым).
Having run across through open space and having taken cover behind a concrete fence, I managed to find quickly enough the car with mines, to transfer in a staff our new radio signal (insurgents have muffled frequencies on which till the morning communication with a staff was supported) and to go back, showing to road to the driver of "Ural Mountains" loaded with mines who very much was afraid to leave on open district. It was necessary to go on foot ahead of the car to show to the driver that "the devil is not so terrible as he is painted". Besides, the sensation of fear for the companions has overcome own instinct of self-preservation. An ammunition had as it is impossible by the way, and together with the battalion commander we have quickly organised their unloading though only one successful hit of a bullet in a mine tip could send all battery to the Allah. Перебежав через открытое пространство и укрывшись за бетонным забором, мне удалось достаточно быстро найти машину с минами, передать в штаб наши новые радиопозывные (боевики заглушили частоты, на которых до утра поддерживалась связь со штабом) и отправиться назад, указывая дорогу водителю нагруженного минами "Урала", который очень боялся выезжать на открытую местность. Пришлось идти пешком впереди машины, чтобы показать водителю, что "не так страшен черт, как его малюют". Кроме того, чувство страха за своих товарищей перебороло собственный инстинкт самосохранения. Боеприпасы пришлись как нельзя кстати, и совместно с комбатом мы быстро организовали их разгрузку, хотя лишь одно удачное попадание пули в наконечник мины могло отправить всю батарею к Аллаху.
Having received worthy repulse from 18-19-летних boys from whom experienced insurgents did not expect such speed, the last have stopped the further attempts to attack us frontally and have departed to the Chechen-aul which on long one and a half month became a headache of all of 324th regiment. Results of fight were depressing enough. Our battalion has lost the killed 18 persons, 50 have got various wounds. The tank company has lost 5 cars which have been lined basically first minutes of fight. Other tanks managed to be rescued, having taken away them on spare positions behind the motor-marksmen who have taken up the basic weight of blow. Insurgents have lost 50 persons killed nearby. It was not possible to specify quantity of wounded men, as insurgents have carried away all of them with themselves, and after reflexion of last attack the commander of a regiment has not organised prosecution of the departing opponent, as was afraid of the big losses and possibility to be ambushed. Получив достойный отпор от 18-19-летних мальчишек, от которых матерые боевики не ожидали такой прыти, последние прекратили дальнейшие попытки атаковать нас в лоб и отошли к Чечен-Аулу, который на долгие полтора месяца стал головной болью всего 324-го полка. Результаты боя были достаточно удручающими. Наш батальон потерял убитыми 18 человек, 50 получили различные ранения. Танковая рота потеряла 5 машин, которые были подбиты в основном в первые минуты боя. Остальные танки удалось спасти, отведя их на запасные позиции позади мотострелков, принявших на себя основную тяжесть удара. Боевики потеряли убитыми около 50 человек. Количество раненых уточнить не удалось, поскольку их всех боевики унесли с собой, а после отражения последней атаки командир полка преследование отходящего противника не организовал, поскольку опасался больших потерь и возможности попасть в засаду.
Even two days and three nights fire fight, but both parties proceeded and have not dared to pass to more resolute actions. On February, 6th, 1995 from outside Chernorechja break have made divisions of 1st battalion of 324th regiment with support of marines, as a result our environment has been removed, and Grozny is definitively blocked. Some days later, listening to a radio receiver, we have learnt that BBC radio has told the message that "the Ural special retaliatory regiment" is entered into the Chechen Republic. As in the Chechen Republic the western mass-media received the information on war basically by means of separatists, it was enough appreciation of fighting capacity of our regiment. Further, as it was found out during negotiations with elders of nearby settlements, insurgents have christened us "red dogs" that our regiment strongly held the taken positions and did not allow anybody to move freely within range of flight of a mine (it makes 7201). Besides, many officers in a shelf have released beards which on the sun have got a red shade. The common truth has once again proved to be true that in the east always respected force. When in the end of February, 1995 to the south of our regiment divisions of 503rd motor-shooting regiment from the Moscow military district have settled down, with them insurgents in general did not enter any negotiations, and is simple, giving a small bribe (the vodka bottle, the block of cigarettes), passed through their positions in the necessary direction. Similar in ours it was impossible for a regiment. Еще два дня и три ночи продолжался огневой бой, но обе стороны так и не решились перейти к более решительным действиям. 6 февраля 1995 г. со стороны Черноречья прорыв совершили подразделения 1-го батальона 324-го полка при поддержке морских пехотинцев, в результате наше окружение было снято, а Грозный окончательно блокирован. Несколько дней спустя, слушая радиоприемник, мы узнали, что радио Би-би-си передало сообщение о том, что в Чечню введен "уральский особый карательный полк". Поскольку информацию о войне в Чечне западные СМИ получали в основном с помощью сепаратистов, это была достаточно высокая оценка боеспособности нашего полка. В дальнейшем, как выяснилось в ходе переговоров со старейшинами близлежащих поселков, боевики окрестили нас "рыжими псами" за то, что наш полк прочно удерживал занятые позиции и не позволял никому свободно перемещаться в пределах дальности полета мины (она составляет 7201 м). Кроме того, многие офицеры в полку отпустили бороды, которые на солнце приобрели рыжий оттенок. Еще раз подтвердилась прописная истина, что на Востоке всегда уважали силу. Когда в конце февраля 1995 г. южнее нашего полка расположились подразделения 503-го мотострелкового полка из Московского военного округа, с ними боевики вообще ни в какие переговоры не вступали, а просто, давая небольшую взятку (бутылка водки, блок сигарет), проезжали через их позиции в нужном направлении. Подобное в нашем полку было немыслимо.
Within one and a half months, since an exit of divisions of 324th regiment to settlement Gikalovsky, insurgents conducted wearisome night fights. Every day with a sunset and till the late night as under the schedule, our positions were exposed to bombardment and sorties on a defence first line were made. It became to provide a transfer of an ammunition, the weapon and replenishment to the besieged Grozny. Минометчики without work did not sit. Often it was necessary to "process" simultaneously "зеленку" before positions of motor-marksmen to smoke from it snipers and groups of fire support accompanying them. At the same time it was necessary to arrange a fire barrier on country roads on which insurgents took cars with an ammunition and other property for the подельников in Grozny. For detection of the opponent the battery periodically shined district on a first line with lighting mines. В течение полутора месяцев, начиная с выхода подразделений 324-го полка к поселку Гикаловский, боевики вели изнурительные ночные бои. Каждый день с заходом солнца и до глубокой ночи, как по расписанию, наши позиции подвергались обстрелу и совершались вылазки на передний край обороны. Это делалось для того, чтобы обеспечить переброску боеприпасов, оружия и пополнения в осажденный Грозный. Минометчики без работы не сидели. Часто приходилось одновременно "обрабатывать" "зеленку" перед позициями мотострелков, чтобы выкурить из нее снайперов и сопровождавшие их группы огневого сопровождения. В то же время приходилось устраивать огневой заслон на проселочных дорогах, по которым боевики провозили машины с боеприпасами и другим имуществом для своих подельников в Грозном. Для обнаружения противника батарея периодически освещала местность на переднем крае осветительными минами.

Snoshi
04-03-2009, 01:05 AM
полк(polk) is Regiment in English

JohnnyWalker
04-03-2009, 01:05 AM
continued

As a result of spot-checks in back of the opponent of reconnaissance group of Kjahtinsky special troops it was possible to find out two field camps of insurgents which have been destroyed as a result of fire touches of our battery. Fire минометчиков ювелирно was corrected by the commander of a platoon of management the senior lieutenant V.G.Bednenko who through every night left together with members of spetsnaz on search. As a result of these touches insurgents have lost 110 persons killed nearby (data have been received as a result of morning survey of places of the former camps of insurgents). As negotiations on a portable radio set were listened by the opponent, we used terminology from Fenimora Cooper's novels about Indians of the North America. In particular, the location of reconnaissance group and ours корректировщика has been designated as "wigwam". V.G.Bednenko had signal "Eye", the commander of the battery the captain V.J.Arbuzov - "Chingachguk", and the author of these words - "the Speaking cap" (because, when I ordered fire of the battery during fight at Gikalovsky, was hardly put out from an entrenchment not to receive a bullet of the Chechen sniper). В результате рейдов в тыл противника разведгруппы Кяхтинского спецназа удалось обнаружить два полевых лагеря боевиков, которые были уничтожены в результате огневых налетов нашей батареи. Огонь минометчиков ювелирно корректировал командир взвода управления старший лейтенант В.Г.Бедненко, который через каждую ночь выходил вместе со спецназовцами на поиск. В результате этих налетов боевики потеряли убитыми около 110 человек (сведения были получены в результате утреннего осмотра мест бывших лагерей боевиков). Поскольку переговоры по рации прослушивались противником, мы использовали терминологию из романов Фенимора Купера про индейцев Северной Америки. В частности, место расположения разведгруппы и нашего корректировщика было обозначено как "вигвам". Сам В.Г.Бедненко имел позывной "Глаз", командир батареи капитан В.Ю.Арбузов - "Чингачгук", а автор этих слов - "Говорящая шапка" (потому что, когда я командовал огнем батареи во время боя у Гикаловского, то едва высовывался из окопа, чтобы не получить пулю чеченского снайпера).
Despite sharply changed tactical conditions, especially after in the beginning of March, 1995 and Grozny all basic centres of resistance have been suppressed, дудаевцы have received a respite, at least, in two weeks as since March, 1st the armistice has been declared. While it lasted, at us near by insurgents have built strong point well strengthened and equipped in the engineering plan which has covered approaches to the unique stationary bridge through the river Argun, being in the middle between settlements the Chechen-aul and Old Atagi. Несмотря на резко изменившуюся тактическую обстановку, особенно после того, как в начале марта 1995 г. и Грозном были подавлены все основные очаги сопротивления, дудаевцы получили передышку, как минимум, в две недели, поскольку с 1 марта было объявлено перемирие. Пока оно длилось, у нас под носом боевики соорудили хорошо укрепленный и оснащенный в инженерном плане опорный пункт, который прикрыл подходы к единственному стационарному мосту через реку Аргун, находящемуся посередине между поселками Чечен-Аул и Старые Атаги.
The examples resulted above, direct a pas thought that carrying over of operations from flat areas of the Chechen Republic in the mountain was intentionally tightened as at due level of the organisation of operation on "constitutional order restoration" the such was quite possible in February, 1995 after Grozny has been definitively blocked. While in mountains snow has not descended, and woods in a foothill part of the Chechen Republic have not put on green foliage, groups of insurgents were under the threat of bombing attacks from air, and their communications have been limited only by valleys of the rivers and gorges while avalanches and drifts could fall upon mountain and wood tracks. The given circumstance has been considered only in the second Chechen campaign, but it is not a subject of our conversation. An intended tightening of army operations in the spring of 1995 Occurring in the form of moratoriums on application of heavy arms and technics, introduction frequent перемирий, allowed insurgents to rearrange the forces, to fill up stocks of the foodstuffs, fuel and an ammunition, at last, to restore forces and to treat the wounds received in fierce fights in winter months of war. Примеры, приведенные выше, наводят па мысль о том, что перенос боевых действий из равнинных районов Чечни в горные намеренно затягивался, поскольку при должном уровне организации операции по "восстановлению конституционного порядка" такое было вполне возможно еще в феврале 1995 г., после того как был окончательно блокирован г. Грозный. Пока в горах не сошел снег, и леса в предгорной части Чечни не оделись зеленой листвой, отряды боевиков находились под угрозой ракетно-бомбовых ударов с воздуха, а их коммуникации были ограничены лишь долинами рек и ущельями, в то время как на горные и лесные тропы могли обрушиться снежные лавины и заносы. Данное обстоятельство было учтено лишь во второй чеченской кампании, но это не является предметом нашего разговора. Намеренное затягивание войсковых операций весной 1995 г., происходившее в виде мораториев на применение тяжелого вооружения и техники, введения частых перемирий, позволяло боевикам перегруппировать свои силы, пополнить запасы продовольствия, топлива и боеприпасов, наконец, восстановить силы и подлечить раны, полученные в ожесточенных боях в зимние месяцы войны.
Moreover, an armistice only provoked fighting activity of separatists and promoted expansion of guerrilla war against federal armies even in those areas where the local population has not rendered strong resistance during the first period of campaign. Artillery bombardment of positions by 3rd минометной the battery and a staff of 324th motor-shooting regiment, occurred on March, 2nd, 1995, in settlement Gikalovsky, located in 12 km to the south of Grozny became one of examples of such provocation. Bombardment was preceded by occurrence of the car with emblems and flag СБСЕ at a crossroads of a line Rostov-on-Don - Baku and highway Grozny - the Oak-yurtas. At this crossroads after the armistice on February, 28th, 1995 has been declared, the exchange of captured Russian military men for bodies of the lost insurgents on March, 1st, 1995 has taken place. As gun positions of 3rd минометной batteries and a staff of 324th motor-shooting regiment were in limits of direct visibility from a crossroads, participants of negotiations from the Chechen party had possibility precisely enough to define co-ordinates of the specified divisions. Next day, on March, 2nd, 1995, during a dinner (insurgents have thoroughly studied a daily routine in a shelf) when one of two fire platoons of 3rd минометной batteries has gone to the field bath located behind a building of board of breeding state farm Gikalovsky, and other platoon prepared for food intake, shrill whistle was distributed, and soon before my eyes approximately in 150 m from positions of the battery and in 100 m from a staff building there was a rupture of an artillery shell (later it has appeared that it the antiaircraft gun shot 76-mm). After all some seconds were distributed explosion of the second shell. This time it has occurred almost at a staff building. Then the third explosion has followed. It has occurred behind positions of the battery to flight approximately 50 - 70 m. have passed the First confusion, and the officers who have remained on a gun position, have organised artillery duel. Having dinner soldiers have rushed at first to the shelters, and then on command have opened reciprocal fire from 120-mm of mortars. Более того, перемирия только провоцировали боевую активность сепаратистов и способствовали развертыванию партизанской войны против федеральных войск даже в тех районах, где местное население не оказало сильного сопротивления в первый период кампании. Одним из примеров такой провокации стал артиллерийский обстрел позиций 3-й минометной батареи и штаба 324-го мотострелкового полка, произошедший 2 марта 1995 г., в поселке Гикаловский, расположенном в 12 км южнее г. Грозный. Обстрелу предшествовало появление машины с эмблемами и флагом СБСЕ на перекрестке трассы Ростов-на-Дону - Баку и шоссе Грозный - Дуба-Юрт. На этом перекрестке, после того как 28 февраля 1995 г. было объявлено перемирие, 1 марта 1995 г. состоялся обмен пленных российских военнослужащих на тела погибших боевиков. Поскольку огневые позиции 3-й минометной батареи и штаб 324-го мотострелкового полка находились в пределах прямой видимости от перекрестка, участники переговоров с чеченской стороны имели возможность достаточно точно определить координаты указанных подразделений. На следующий день, 2 марта 1995 г., во время обеда (боевики досконально изучили распорядок дня в полку), когда один из двух огневых взводов 3-й минометной батареи отправился в полевую баню, расположенную позади здания правления племенного совхоза Гикаловский, а другой взвод готовился к приему пищи, раздался пронзительный свист, и вскоре перед моими глазами примерно в 150 м от позиций батареи и в 100 м от здания штаба произошел разрыв артиллерийского снаряда (позднее оказалось, что это стреляла 76-мм зенитная пушка). Спустя всего несколько секунд раздался взрыв второго снаряда. На этот раз он произошел почти у здания штаба. Затем последовал третий взрыв. Он произошел позади позиций батареи с перелетом примерно 50 - 70 м. Первое замешательство прошло, и офицеры, оставшиеся на огневой позиции, организовали артиллерийскую дуэль. Обедавшие солдаты бросились сначала в свои укрытия, а затем по команде открыли ответный огонь из 120-мм минометов.
The problem consisted that we shot from the closed positions (between us and thickets of bushes were the opponent and лесопосадки), therefore the platoon required fire updating. Approximately minute has been lost on contacting a staff of 3rd motor-rifle battalion and to specify at least a square to which it was possible to strike blow. After several volleys of three mortars accompanied by updating on a radio communication from front lines of a position of 3rd motor-rifle battalion, bombardment of our positions has stopped. But the most interesting that right after the firing terminations by field phone have called from a staff of a regiment and have terribly taken an interest, who has opened reciprocal fire. And it instead of involving observers who usually were on an attic of a building of a staff and could spend more exact updating of fire минометчиков, rather than from the positions of a motor-rifle battalion which were in the middle of thickets of bushes and лесопосадок, complicating supervision over the opponent. Проблема заключалась в том, что мы стреляли с закрытых позиций (между нами и противником находились заросли кустарников и лесопосадки), поэтому взвод нуждался в корректировке огня. Примерно минута была потеряна на то, чтобы выйти на связь со штабом 3-го мотострелкового батальона и уточнить хотя бы квадрат, по которому можно было нанести удар. После нескольких залпов трех минометов, сопровождавшихся корректировкой по радиосвязи с передовых позиции 3-го мотострелкового батальона, обстрел наших позиций прекратился. Но самое интересное, что сразу после окончания перестрелки по полевому телефону позвонили из штаба полка и грозно поинтересовались, кто открыл ответный огонь. И это вместо того, чтобы задействовать наблюдателей, которые обычно находились на чердаке здания штаба и могли провести более точную корректировку огня минометчиков, нежели с позиций мотострелкового батальона, находившихся посреди зарослей кустарников и лесопосадок, затруднявших наблюдение за противником.
Thus, it turned out that on positions of federal armies to shoot at time of an armistice to insurgents it is possible, and to answer them it was impossible for federal soldiers. Any strange game in "поддавки" turned out. Таким образом, получалось, что по позициям федеральных войск стрелять во время перемирия боевикам можно, а федералам отвечать на них было нельзя. Получалась какая-то странная игра в "поддавки".
For prevention of the further bombardments of our positions by forces of group of special troops from Kyakhta (Transbaikalian military district), to the given 324 regiment, investigation of suburbs has been spent has sat down the Chechen-aul in which course the disguised gun position, and also a house cellar in which insurgents hid 76-mm the tool and an ammunition to it is found out. Co-ordinates have soon been transferred on минометную the battery, and 1st fire platoon (it was fast made to fight, than 2nd) has directed in advance the tools on the set purpose. 2nd fire platoon has received a site of a possible withdrawal of insurgents after the last will finish bombardment as the purpose. This fire trap has worked only a week later. This time bombardment has begun at night as insurgents hoped for falling of our vigilance in an armistice. As soon as repeated bombardment of our positions has begun, with an interval 1 minute have struck a volley at first 1st. And then and 2nd fire platoon. It was soon found out that insurgents began to depart really after our first reciprocal volley as all site of their evacuation has been covered by the thrown blood-stained bandage. As to a gun as a result of bombardment it has been damaged and thrown by insurgents. Для предотвращения дальнейших обстрелов наших позиций силами группы спецназа из г. Кяхта (Забайкальский военный округ), приданной 324-му полку, была проведена разведка предместий села Чечен-Аул, в ходе которой обнаружена замаскированная огневая позиция, а также подвал дома, в котором боевики прятали 76-мм орудие и боеприпасы к нему. Координаты вскоре были переданы на минометную батарею, и 1-й огневой взвод (он быстрее изготавливался к бою, чем 2-й) заранее направил свои орудия на заданную цель. 2-й огневой взвод получил в качестве цели участок возможного отхода боевиков, после того как последние закончат обстрел. Эта огневая ловушка сработала лишь через неделю. На этот раз обстрел начался ночью, поскольку боевики надеялись на падение нашей бдительности в период перемирия. Как только начался повторный обстрел наших позиций, с интервалом в 1 минуту ударили залпом сначала 1-й. а затем и 2-й огневой взвод. Вскоре выяснилось, что боевики действительно стали отходить после нашего первого ответного залпа, поскольку весь участок их эвакуации был усеян брошенными окровавленными бинтами. Что касается пушки, то в результате обстрела она была повреждена и брошена боевиками.

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After that case artillery bombardments of positions of 324th regiment have temporarily stopped. The next attempt has been undertaken by insurgents only in the end of March, 1995 when they have developed installation "Hailstones" on distance about 10 km from regiment positions (range of shooting of starting jet installation "Hailstones" makes 21 km). But this time it has been destroyed by a link of the helicopters caused from military airdrome in Hankale, located in suburb Grozny. После этого случая артиллерийские обстрелы позиций 324-го полка временно прекратились. Очередная попытка была предпринята боевиками только в конце марта 1995 г., когда они развернули установку "Град" на расстоянии примерно 10 км от позиций полка (дальность стрельбы пусковой реактивной установки "Град" составляет 21 км). Но на этот раз она была уничтожена звеном вертолетов, вызванных с военного аэродрома в Ханкале, расположенного в пригороде г. Грозный.
Senselessness of conducting operations in the Chechen republic was proved by behaviour of command of federal grouping. On March, 13th 324th regiment has begun approach to positions of insurgents around settlements the Chechen-aul and Old Atagi. The approach purpose - crossing capture through the river Argun. As a result of the 8-sentry of fight insurgents have been pushed aside to the river, and their strong point around an is petty-commodity farm has been almost destroyed. But as a result of a mismatch of actions of 1st and 3rd battalions, between them rupture approximately in 800 m. It has turned out it was possible to block, having used the commandant's company protecting a staff of a regiment. But instead the decision to take away division on initial positions was accepted. Бессмысленность ведения боевых действий в Чеченской республике доказывалась поведением командования федеральной группировкой. 13 марта 324-й полк начал наступление на позиции боевиков в районе поселков Чечен-Аул и Старые Атаги. Цель наступления - захват переправы через реку Аргун. В результате 8-часового боя боевики были оттеснены к реке, а их опорный пункт в районе мелочно-товарной фермы был практически уничтожен. Но в результате рассогласования действий 1-го и 3-го батальонов, между ними получился разрыв примерно в 800 м. Его можно было перекрыть, использовав комендантскую роту, охранявшую штаб полка. Но вместо этого было принято решение отвести подразделения на исходные позиции.
On March, 15th repeated approach to positions of insurgents which used two days has begun to restore the destroyed strong point up to that have concreted entrenchments on river bank Argun. Feature of their equipment consisted that entrenchments have been located on abrupt slopes of river bank and are supplied эвакуационными by passes to the river. At hit of shells and mines splinters dissipated and left above positions of insurgents therefore the fire preparation preceding approach of motor-marksmen of our regiment, has appeared ineffectual. 15 марта началось повторное наступление на позиции боевиков, которые использовали два дня для того, чтобы восстановить разрушенный опорный пункт, вплоть до того, что забетонировали окопы на берегу реки Аргун. Особенность их оборудования заключалась в том, что окопы были расположены на крутых скатах берега реки и снабжены эвакуационными проходами к реке. При попадании снарядов и мин осколки рассеивались и уходили выше позиций боевиков, в результате чего огневая подготовка, предшествовавшая наступлению мотострелков нашего полка, оказалась безрезультатной.
It is necessary to notice that insurgents did not wait for promotion of our divisions, and warned their expansion in a fighting order on the approach to the positions. Their favorite method was вклинивание between companies and fire opening at first on one, and then on other company. While companies were developed and tried to strike back, group of insurgents, disappearing in thickets of bushes and in channels арыков, has departed to the basic positions, and between our divisions the present fight which was stopped only by the commander of 3rd battalion lieutenant colonel M.V.Mishin observing deployment of divisions in the meantime was played. Следует отметить, что боевики не ждали выдвижения наших подразделений, а предупреждали их развертывание в боевой порядок еще на подходе к своим позициям. Их излюбленным приемом было вклинивание между ротами и открытие огня сначала по одной, а затем по другой роте. Пока роты разворачивались и пытались нанести ответный удар, группа боевиков, скрываясь в зарослях кустарников и в руслах арыков, отошла к основным позициям, а между нашими подразделениями тем временем разыгрался настоящий бой, который прекратил только командир 3-го батальона подполковник М.В.Мишин, наблюдавший разворачивание подразделений.
The approach developed in southeast areas of the Chechen Republic on March, 24th, 1995, has been spent at massed use of aircraft and artillery. Tanks were applied as mobile artillery installations, accompanying fire fighting usages of motor-marksmen coming ahead. The classical combination of various combat arms at the numerical and technical superiority has provided prompt break of positions дудаевцев in which result federal parts with the minimum losses have occupied almost all flat areas of republic and left to foothills of the Big caucasus. But instead of pursuing the departing opponent and to inflict over it definitive defeat, armies have stopped again, as the next armistice that promoted more organised withdrawal of insurgents in high-mountainous areas again has been declared. Наступление, развернувшееся в юго-восточных районах Чечни 24 марта 1995 г., было проведено при массированном использовании авиации и артиллерии. Танки применялись в качестве подвижных артиллерийских установок, сопровождая огнем наступавшие впереди боевые порядки мотострелков. Классическое сочетание различных родов войск при численном и техническом превосходстве обеспечило стремительный прорыв позиций дудаевцев, в результате которого федеральные части с минимальными потерями заняли почти все равнинные районы республики и вышли к предгорьям Большого Кавказа. Но вместо того чтобы преследовать отходящего противника и нанести ему окончательное поражение, войска вновь остановились, поскольку вновь было объявлено очередное перемирие, что способствовало более организованному отходу боевиков в высокогорные районы.
Within all April, 1995 324th regiment of active operations did not undertake. Nevertheless, on the average for days, as a result of actions of the Chechen snipers 1-2 persons in a shelf got wounds or perished. For struggle against snipers the fighting group on duty as a part of a motor-shooting platoon on БМП-1 which periodically combed district round a regiment arrangement has been allocated. This measure could not warn action of the opponent as own specially trained snipers in a shelf were not, and group of special troops of Kyakhta, given to a regiment in February, 1995, in the middle of April has been withdrawn. Thus, struggle against snipers of the opponent turned to attempt to kill a mosquito an axe butt. В течение всего апреля 1995 г. 324-й полк активных боевых действий не предпринимал. Тем не менее, в среднем за сутки, в результате действий чеченских снайперов 1-2 человека в полку получали ранения либо погибали. Для борьбы со снайперами была выделена дежурная боевая группа в составе мотострелкового взвода на БМП-1, которая периодически прочесывала местность вокруг расположения полка. Эта мера не могла предупредить действия противника, поскольку собственных специально обученных снайперов в полку не было, а группа спецназа из Кяхты, приданная полку в феврале 1995 г., в середине апреля была отозвана. Таким образом, борьба со снайперами противника превращалась в попытку убить комара обухом топора.
Positive consequence of an armistice was that soldiers had an opportunity to have a rest after exhausting night fights with insurgents who proceeded within almost two months, from the end of January on the end of March, 1995 that the discipline has sharply fallen was negative, cases autocratic оставления positions which at excessive curiosity of soldiers their destructions on the or Chechen extensions or as a result of actions of "civilians" led have become frequent. Положительным последствием перемирия являлось то, что солдаты получили возможность отдохнуть после изматывающих ночных боев с боевиками, которые продолжались в течение почти двух месяцев, с конца января по конец марта 1995 г. Отрицательным было то, что резко упала дисциплина, участились случаи самовольного оставления позиций, которые при излишнем любопытстве солдат приводили к их гибели на своих или чеченских растяжках либо в результате действий "мирных жителей".
In the beginning of April to a regiment there has arrived replenishment - approximately 200 persons which has been distributed basically between 1st and 3rd motor-rifle battalions. Amazed that fact that newcomers fighters practically had no skills of the reference with the automatic machine, without speaking already about grenade cup discharge РПГ-7, a machine gun of the personal computer or manual pomegranates. Thus training in battalions has been organised differently. In 1 battalion fighters from replenishment have joined at once structure of divisions, and in 3rd they have been generated in three educational platoons by which commanders young officers, for the purpose of fastening of practical skills of management by the division, received have been put during recent fights. It is remarkable that two from them were "jackets". Neither in 1st, nor in 3rd battalions has not done without losses among replenishment, even prior to the beginning of their participation in operations. In 1st battalion in the first night after arrival two soldiers have made self-arrows (from the automatic machine have raked to itself soft fabrics of feet). In replenishment of 3rd battalion later two weeks the young soldier, the baptist on the religious beliefs was hung up. В начале апреля в полк прибыло пополнение - примерно 200 человек, которое было распределено в основном между 1-м и 3-м мотострелковыми батальонами. Поражал тот факт, что вновь прибывшие бойцы практически не имели навыков обращения с автоматом, не говоря уже про гранатомет РПГ-7, пулемет ПК или ручные гранаты. При этом обучение в батальонах было организовано по-разному. В 1 -м батальоне бойцы из пополнения сразу влились в состав подразделений, а в 3-м они были сформированы в три учебных взвода, командирами которых были поставлены молодые офицеры, с целью закрепления практических навыков управления подразделением, полученных в ходе недавних боев. Примечательно, что двое из них были "пиджаки". Ни в 1-м, ни в 3-м батальонах не обошлось без потерь среди пополнения, еще до начала их участия в боевых действиях. В 1-м батальоне в первую же ночь после прибытия двое солдат совершили самострел (из автомата прострелили себе мягкие ткани ног). В пополнении 3-го батальона спустя две недели повесился молодой солдат, баптист по своим религиозным убеждениям.
That fact is remarkable that the hung up soldier has been defined in 1st educational platoon which the young personnel lieutenant who has recently finished the Chelyabinsk tank school ordered. Style of its command consisted in humiliation of fighters, in inculcation of implicit submission by it. The frequent phenomenon was рукоприкладство, a floor-mat before a system, senseless отжимания from the earth, - and all it in the face of fighters of other educational platoons. Not surprisingly, what exactly in its division has occurred the given emergency. Примечателен тот факт, что повесившийся солдат был определен в 1-й учебный взвод, которым командовал молодой кадровый лейтенант, недавно закончивший Челябинское танковое училище. Стиль его командования заключался в унижении бойцов, в привитии им беспрекословного подчинения. Нередким явлением было рукоприкладство, мат перед строем, бессмысленные отжимания от земли, - и все это на глазах бойцов других учебных взводов. Не удивительно, что именно в его подразделении произошло данное чрезвычайное происшествие.
At carrying out of field employment with young replenishment I noticed that fighters with pleasure carry out exercise on shooting from the automatic machine and a grenade cup discharge, throw pomegranates. It is much less than enthusiasm they showed at digging and the equipment of entrenchments and carrying out of tactical exercises. In order to avoid accident the weapon originally it did not stand out. It was only at the commander of a platoon who shooting from the automatic machine accustomed fighters to fighting conditions during field tactical exercises. The special impression remains from обкатки tanks and БМП. In the middle of a track in the field fighters have dug entrenchments for shooting lying and were in them when over them on small speed passed at first the tank, and then БМП (at last landing much more low that did position of the fighter in an entrenchment rather "noncomfortable"). При проведении полевых занятий с молодым пополнением я отмечал, что бойцы с удовольствием выполняют упражнение по стрельбе из автомата и гранатомета, мечут гранаты. Значительно меньше энтузиазма они проявляли при рытье и оборудовании окопов и проведении тактических упражнений. Во избежание несчастного случая оружие первоначально им не выдавалось. Оно было только у командира взвода, который стрельбой из автомата приучал бойцов к боевой обстановке во время полевых тактических упражнений. Особое впечатление осталось от обкатки танками и БМП. Посреди колеи в поле бойцы вырыли окопы для стрельбы лежа и находились в них в то время, когда над ними на небольшой скорости проезжал сначала танк, а затем БМП (у последней посадка значительно ниже, что делало положение бойца в окопе весьма "некомфортабельным").
But the greatest revelation for me was that when there has arrived my relief - lieutenant Misha ShChankin, he too was not able to address with the automatic machine though shortly before an appeal has graduated training on military chair of the Izhevsk agricultural institute. There is a question: why personnel lieutenants wring hands not to go to the Chechen Republic, leave army, lead up fighters to suicide though they are professionals in military science. In my opinion, it is necessary to change considerably principles and methods of educational work in military colleges which do not carry out the mission. Hopes of "jackets" are illusive. Much depends excellent motivation of the lieutenant of the stock which has enlisted. Но самым большим откровением для меня стало то, что когда прибыл мой сменщик - лейтенант Миша Щанкин, он тоже не умел обращаться с автоматом, хотя незадолго до призыва закончил курс обучения на военной кафедре Ижевского сельскохозяйственного института. Возникает вопрос: почему кадровые лейтенанты ломают себе руки, чтобы не ехать в Чечню, увольняются из армии, доводят бойцов до самоубийства, хотя именно они являются профессионалами в военном деле. По моему мнению, необходимо радикально менять принципы и методы воспитательной работы в военных училищах, которые не выполняют своего предназначения. Надежды на "пиджаков" призрачны. Многое зависит отличной мотивации лейтенанта запаса, поступившего на военную службу.
Returning home occurred, as in the low-standard Soviet insurgent about "Afghans". All has begun that the travelling instruction to me should be received literally at the car which went to Grozny. Without it it should to justify about absence in the part, and then to prove the fact of participation in operations. Then continuation in the form of car following through half of Chechen Republic, and, in infringement of all instructions and the unwritten rules fulfilled still in Afghanistan has followed, the car went without fighting support, and I and my companions have been deprived the regular weapon. Wounded soldiers and officers who at hospitalisation hand over the weapon were my fellow travellers, and I have handed over the automatic machine to a relief. At following to Grozny "санитарка" continually went round hollows on roads, and on posts there was no also a soul; at desire without a uniform shot insurgents could take all of us prisoner. This prospect "brightened up" the discomfort caused by narrowness in a body, closeness and scorching heat. Typicalness of a picture has proved to be true after the arrival in airport "Northern". We had not time to leave the car as towards to us the drunk ensign has gone and has suggested to try medical spirit. We have reasonably refused, as the heat has by noon amplified also us thirst has started to torment. Возвращение домой происходило, как в низкопробном советском боевике про "афганцев". Все началось с того, что командировочное предписание мне пришлось получать буквально у машины, которая отправлялась в г. Грозный. Без него пришлось бы оправдываться об отсутствии в своей части, а затем доказывать факт участия в боевых действиях. Затем последовало продолжение в виде следования машины через половину Чечни, причем, в нарушение всяческих инструкций и неписаных правил, отработанных еще в Афганистане, машина шла без боевого сопровождения, а я и мои спутники были лишены штатного оружия. Моими попутчиками были раненые солдаты и офицеры, которые при госпитализации сдают оружие, а я свой автомат сдал сменщику. При следовании к г. Грозный "санитарка" то и дело объезжала выбоины на дорогах, а на блокпостах не было и души; при желании всех нас без единого выстрела боевики могли взять в плен. Эта перспектива "скрашивала" дискомфорт, вызванный теснотой в кузове, духоту и палящий зной. Типичность картины подтвердилась по прибытии в аэропорт "Северный". Не успели мы выйти из машины, как навстречу нам пошел пьяный прапорщик и предложил испробовать медицинского спирта. Мы благоразумно отказались, тем более что жара к полудню усилилась и нас начала мучить жажда.
After I and my companion, ensign Shalagin decreasing in holiday on family circumstances, were registered on flight of the helicopter to Mozdoka, we were engaged in water search. Me has extremely amazed that at the airport the restaurant the prices in which have appeared rather inaccessible, and the personnel - all basically "Caucasians" already operated - at all has not wanted to talk to us. Attempt to address for the help to the assistant to the military commandant on the airport has ended with that in reply to its rough refusal I any more have not sustained and left, having left in a huff, as a result of me has detained the caused patrol and I have been compelled to be humiliated, that to me have returned documents and have given the chance to make landing to the helicopter. From this incident I have drawn a conclusion that those who is on a front line, never will find common language with "rear rats". We are necessary only when we are "gun meat". As soon as you start to come back in a peace life, that except yourself and relatives, you in this country are not necessary to anybody with the problems is necessary to be adjusted and understand you can only same, as you. We, at last, have got water on the nearest to a post which covered road to a runway. Children have shared with us the poor stocks, and the thirst tormenting us since morning, has been a little satisfied. После того как я и мой спутник, прапорщик Шалагин, убывавший в отпуск по семейным обстоятельствам, зарегистрировались на рейс вертолета до Моздока, мы занялись поиском воды. Меня крайне поразило, что в аэропорту уже действовал ресторан, цены в котором оказались весьма недоступными, а персонал - все в основном "лица кавказской национальности" - даже не захотел разговаривать с нами. Попытка обратиться за помощью к помощнику военного коменданта по аэропорту закончилась тем, что в ответ на его грубый отказ я уже не выдержал и вышел, хлопнув дверью, в результате меня задержал вызванный патруль и я был вынужден унижаться, чтобы мне вернули документы и дали возможность совершить посадку на вертолет. Из этого происшествия я сделал вывод, что те, кто находится на передовой, никогда не найдут общего языка с "тыловыми крысами". Мы нужны только тогда, когда являемся "пушечным мясом". Как только начинаешь возвращаться в мирную жизнь, необходимо настраиваться на то, что кроме себя и близких, ты никому в этой стране не нужен со своими проблемами и понять тебя сможет только такой же, как ты. Воду мы, наконец, достали на ближайшем блокпосту, который прикрывал дорогу к взлетно-посадочной полосе. Ребята поделились с нами своими скудными запасами, и жажда, мучавшая нас с утра, была несколько утолена.
The new surprise waited for us in Moscow where there has arrived the transport plane from Mozdoka. It has appeared that that money which at us with Shalaginym were, sufficed only on half of ticket. Military travel papers at departure have not been given out us, and money for payment of advance payment was not in regimental cash desk. Has carried that we in Mozdoke have joined group of officers and ensigns of 276th regiment in which replacement was spent already from the middle of April, and it had been paid advance payments for which account it was possible to get home. I have found the fellow countryman living on Elmashe, and have occupied from it on credit which has returned next day after arrival (the most interesting that journey by train to military unit to me and have not paid, though I would come back like and not from a resort). So the Fatherland of the sons who have fulfilled before her the constitutional duty met. Новый сюрприз поджидал нас в Москве, куда прибыл транспортный самолет из Моздока. Оказалось, что тех денег, которые у нас с Шалагиным были, хватало только на половину билета. Воинские проездные документы при убытии нам выданы не были, а денег в полковой кассе для выплаты аванса не нашлось. Повезло в том, что мы еще в Моздоке присоединились к группе офицеров и прапорщиков 276-го полка, в котором замена проводилась уже с середины апреля, и им были выплачены авансы, за счет которых можно было добраться домой. Я нашел земляка, проживающего на Эльмаше, и занял у него в долг, который вернул на следующий день после приезда (самое интересное, что проезд поездом в воинской части мне так и не оплатили, хотя я возвращался вроде бы и не с курорта). Так встречала Отчизна своих сыновей, выполнивших перед ней свой конституционный долг.
Truly, our state continues to live regardless time and space, repeating last errors and correcting them at the expense of long-suffering of the people. But safety factor of the Russian society has come to an end. I mean safety factor first of all the spiritual. Blind and boundless fidelity of the people to the state gives way to cynicism of rising generation next. This cynicism is, of course, overcome, when the person meets death face to face. But to cure our sick society, it is impossible to banish it through a war meat grinder as on it the best, as it is known, perish, and such medicine is rather doubtful. Hardly it is possible to name mentally and morally healthy and those who live have returned from a zone of the local conflict.

Nuclear_Warrior
04-03-2009, 01:07 AM
Gun is An-94 Abakan, very old photo.
I thought at one point the guy named RomanS said this was a guy from ...I'm not sure how to say this but.... one of the sub groups of Vityaz.

It might be old, but is a good one!

Mousepad
04-03-2009, 01:15 AM
Rota - Company

SpeedyHedgehog
04-03-2009, 01:25 AM
Can anyone identify the patch of this soldier? Thanks in advance!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3424/an94.jpg

Those AN-94 look good!

According to the magazine "Shevron" it's an MVD unit Falcon (Krechet)
http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee337/SpeedyHedgehog/Falcon.jpg

JohnnyWalker
04-03-2009, 01:29 AM
According to the magazine "Shevron" it's an MVD unit Falcon (Krechet)
http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee337/SpeedyHedgehog/Falcon.jpg

nice find guy. my bad, i thought it was Vityaz.

shardana
04-03-2009, 04:08 AM
Mig-29 and Su-27 had sensor fusion decades ago. The Helmet mounted sight and radar and IRST were all linked together and together could be used against air targets. Instead of scanning with radar for targets you could passively look with the IRST. Once the IRST got a lock the radar could be aimed directly at the target without scanning for it first (the angular accuracy of IRST is actually better than the angular accuracy of a radar). The target might notice the quarter second blip of the ranging ping from the radar but it might equally be lost in all the other noise on the battlefield.

BTW the altitudes a stealth aircraft can supercruise the IRST will be ideal.



Thanks for posting that. I had seen under the SVDS advertisements that they were going to use 15 round mags as option, but 20 would be better, especially for full auto capable bullpup version SVDU.



The role if SU-24 and Su-34 is deep strike or theatre strike. They were supported by Tu22M3 which carried heavier loads (ie x3) or could fly further, and the Mig-27 and Su-17 with half the load on shorter strike missions.



I doubt they have finished developing the operations manual let alone developed operations tactics. Equally they would need a ready supply of smart weapons for it to deploy operationally. Speed of reaction was more important than sending in the best. If the Russians had planned the war then they certainly would have had the Su-34s and Mi-28Ns and probably even T-95s and BMD-4s there for an operational test.



Because the test target was a Mirage. It might perhaps indicate who they are trying to sell the system to, or it reflects the target drones available.



Will start retiring the older models now, but some will get an upgrade to Su-24M2 standard so they can keep operating while the Su-34 is introduced slowly.



There is no current threat that warrants speeding up the replacement, but they are being either replaced or upgraded as we speak.



Those Su-22s were only being used in specific roles and not as general light strike fighterbombers. Just like the Jammer versions of the Su-24 will continue in service till a Jammer model of Su-34 can be developed.



I would guess it is a bumper to prevent the fuselage contacting the ground during steep takeoffs or steep landings (ie high alpha on ground)

BTW Flankers are big.
What is the thing the arrow is pointing at? I would guess it is a bumper to prevent the fuselage contacting the ground during steep takeoffs or steep landings (ie high alpha on ground)

Sure it is a bumper to absorb the contact loads with ground!

Mormaeglin
04-03-2009, 05:03 AM
Ooo, what kind of camo is that?


KKO Gorod-2 (City-2) (Gorod-1 has different colour variation white+black instead of blue-white-black) as pointed before, issued for MVD.

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-03-2009, 07:24 AM
Can anyone identify the patch of this soldier? Thanks in advance!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3424/an94.jpg

Those AN-94 look good!

Unit is 'Krechet' and if i remember correctly,he was the commander of the unit and was KIA in chechnya 2001 or 2002.

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-03-2009, 07:27 AM
eh? what's so special about them?
They look quite similar to the standard issue BW Kampfstiefel...


ehh?!:) here the 'newest' ones...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Kampfstiefel-Bundeswehr.JPG/690px-Kampfstiefel-Bundeswehr.JPG

Xaito
04-03-2009, 09:26 AM
ehh?!:) here the 'newest' ones...


they look kinda strange on that pic but I've got two pairs of them and in real they look similar to those you said SF is using imho.

Moskit
04-03-2009, 09:29 AM
Boots for regular army from Haix!!


http://www.airsoftgun.ru/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=45452&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=820

Have you some fount ?
I cant believe it.

Karaahmetoglu
04-03-2009, 09:41 AM
Unit is 'Krechet' and if i remember correctly,he was the commander of the unit and was KIA in chechnya 2001 or 2002.


Rest In Peace

-Julik- 4.GdKp
04-03-2009, 09:50 AM
they look kinda strange on that pic but I've got two pairs of them and in real they look similar to those you said SF is using imho.

They must be 'Tropenstiefel',but regular army havent such.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kampfstiefel



Have you some fount ?
I cant believe it.

Look in the link you quoted,there must be more info in the thread.

Xaito
04-03-2009, 10:28 AM
They must be 'Tropenstiefel',but regular army havent such.


no they're like those in your picture of the Kampfstiefel but they kinda look better in real then on that picture ;)

Nuclear_Warrior
04-03-2009, 11:03 AM
According to the magazine "Shevron" it's an MVD unit Falcon (Krechet)


Thanks!
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dzhaga-dzhaga
04-03-2009, 01:39 PM
Can anyone identify the patch of this soldier? Thanks in advance!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3424/an94.jpg

Those AN-94 look good!


According to the magazine "Shevron" it's an MVD unit Falcon (Krechet)



nice find guy. my bad, i thought it was Vityaz.


Unit is 'Krechet' and if i remember correctly,he was the commander of the unit and was KIA in chechnya 2001 or 2002.

Yes, this is Krechet unit, but they were in MVD. Now they are in FSIN (Federal service of Punishment Execution) service that is in Ministry of Justice system. And they based in Udmurtia

They proper name would be "Udmurtia Republic regional department of Federal service of Punishment Execution Special purpose unit Krechet"

TheArmenian
04-03-2009, 02:34 PM
Su-24 by night. Photocredit to Sergei Miroshnichenko.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9284/attachmenta.jpg

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3531/attachment.jpg

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4221/attachmentd.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3001/attachmentfaz.jpg

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/81/attachmento.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8829/attachmentgbs.jpg

TheArmenian
04-03-2009, 02:44 PM
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4458/img3011mk.jpg

Kubinka airbase: Tu-22M3 bomber with 3 Kh-22 antiship missiles. Rarely seen with more than 2.

Pages and pages of excellent and very informative photos at Kubinka here:

http://pilot.strizhi.info/photos/v/Medvedev+v+Kubinke/Medvedev+v+Kubinke+Tehnika/

Mihai
04-03-2009, 03:53 PM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5391/img6721sm.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6721sm.jpg)

It`s just me - or the tail is huge?:roll:

Nuclear_Warrior
04-03-2009, 03:56 PM
Venezuela wanted to buy some of those, but at the end they decided to buy some Chinese crap.

a1tra
04-03-2009, 04:45 PM
It`s just me - or the tail is huge?:roll:

It`s for better stability on high angle of attack.

Karpov360
04-03-2009, 06:22 PM
KKO Gorod-2 (City-2) (Gorod-1 has different colour variation white+black instead of blue-white-black) as pointed before, issued for MVD.
Thanks.....

Adux
04-03-2009, 11:48 PM
Venezuela wanted to buy some of those, but at the end they decided to buy some Chinese crap.

Chinese do make a copy of these!

Nuclear_Warrior
04-04-2009, 12:39 AM
Chinese do make a copy of these!

I doubt that they are as good as the original Russian one. Never heard of a 'good Chinese copy'.

GazB
04-04-2009, 01:50 AM
I doubt that they are as good as the original Russian one. Never heard of a 'good Chinese copy'.

Not true, the Chinese are very capable at improving what they copy. For example look at the Type 56S copy of the AKM. The bolt carrier has a projection that sticks out backwards above the bolt carrier so that until the bolt is fully closed the hammer will hit the projection and not the firing pin. On the Russian AKM and AK-47 they had several components to disengage the hammer until the bolt carrier was fully forward and the bolt was locked to prevent the firing pin from being hit while the bolt was not closed. It was called in the west a rate of fire reducer and then correctly id'ed as a hammer delay mechanism. The Chinese solution is much simpler and neater, which is ironic because it is designed to be semi auto only so a hammer delay mechanism is unnecessary.

I think Venezuala wants to spread the love, I think their purchases are about politics rather than capability. It is all a slap back in the face of the US in return for the slap they got from the Bush admin. By buying from China and Russia they will buy friends that might be useful in the future. Venezuala has already bought plenty of Russian stuff... i am guessing if they chose not to buy the Yak-130 it was because the Russians are struggling to make enough for their own needs let alone enough to export it widely now in large numbers. Venezuala will want jet trainers quickly to train enough pilots to fly their new aircraft and keep them up to date.

Nuclear_Warrior
04-04-2009, 01:56 AM
I think Venezuala wants to spread the love, I think their purchases are about politics rather than capability. It is all a slap back in the face of the US in return for the slap they got from the Bush admin. By buying from China and Russia they will buy friends that might be useful in the future. Venezuala has already bought plenty of Russian stuff... i am guessing if they chose not to buy the Yak-130 it was because the Russians are struggling to make enough for their own needs let alone enough to export it widely now in large numbers. Venezuela will want jet trainers quickly to train enough pilots to fly their new aircraft and keep them up to date.

I agree with you on that, just look at the Venezuela's army/national guard uniform, very similar to the Cuban one. Gazb, do you happen to know anything about those bmps that Venezuela bought? And if you do, do you mind giving the kinds of bmps that they bought? Reconaissance, commmand, APC, and so on? Thanks! Sorry for the offtopic guys.

shardana
04-04-2009, 04:14 AM
It`s for better stability on high angle of attack.

It could be that it is also necessary to better control the plane with huge weapon loads in particular in case of asymetric configuration (one wing loaded the other empty)

vnn2
04-04-2009, 04:43 AM
I doubt that they are as good as the original Russian one. Never heard of a 'good Chinese copy'.
Mobile phone N97 Nokla - not Nokia, combine Nokia N97 and Iphone:grin:
http://dailymobile.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nokia-n97-clone-01.jpg
http://dailymobile.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nokia-n97-clone-02.jpg
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GazB
04-04-2009, 04:51 AM
It`s just me - or the tail is huge?

Compare with the tail of the Tornado...

Check out this vid on semi auto PKMs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMr-ZRMXHqE


And if you do, do you mind giving the kinds of bmps that they bought? Reconaissance, commmand, APC, and so on? Thanks! Sorry for the offtopic guys.

AFAIK they were interested in a range of Russian armoured vehicles including BMP-3s and SPRUTs. This article suggests 50-100 T-90s, up to 100 light tanks (we can assume either Spruts or perhaps PT-76s with 57mm main guns as a possibility... the SPRUTs offering 125mm gun compatibility with the T-90s, while the PT-"57" perhaps being lighter and perhaps more mobile?). It also mentions various light vehicles which I would expect include recon and other models in addition to up to 400 BMP-3s of unknown modification.

(article I am basing this on is here: http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Analysis_Venezuela_buys_Russian_tanks_999.html )

The AK-103s they bought were to replace existing military and police FN FALs. This lot of new purchasing will also upgrade existing equipment. Would need to look at what they currently use to determine how many actual troop carriers they might actually buy precisely.

asch
04-04-2009, 06:18 AM
Mobile phone N97 Nokla - not Nokia, combine Nokia N97 and Iphone:grin:
http://dailymobile.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nokia-n97-clone-01.jpg
http://dailymobile.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nokia-n97-clone-02.jpg
http://dailymobile.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nokia-n97-clone-03.jpg
http://dailymobile.se/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nokia-n97-clone-04.jpg
yeah, there is alot of those things around. crappy quality, crappy finish. and not too long of a service life.

Dinges
04-04-2009, 09:14 AM
I know it is a big ask , but can someone just do a basic translation of this post. Thanks in advance.:)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4018636&postcount=16240

Xaito
04-04-2009, 09:30 AM
I know it is a big ask , but can someone just do a basic translation of this post. Thanks in advance.:)

no, but you could do us all a favor and remove all the pics from your quote - you know that there is a small button with an arrow that links to the original post when you quote - so no need to rape this thread with massive quotes...

TheArmenian
04-04-2009, 10:39 AM
Some wallpapers from the Sukhoi website: http://www.sukhoi.org/gallery/?gallery_id=110&cur_gallery_id=142

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peter.pl
04-04-2009, 11:21 AM
@prion - you can always report that post because YOU CAN'T POSTING IN MILITARYPHOTOS.NET IN OTHER LANGUAGES THAN ENGLISH :roll:

Cyborn
04-04-2009, 12:11 PM
I know it is a big ask , but can someone just do a basic translation of this post. Thanks in advance.:)

Первая атомная бомба СССР — РДС–1
Ядерный заряд впервые испытан 29 августа 1949 года на Семипалатинском полигоне. Мощность заряда до 20 килотонн тротилового эквивалента.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
First USSR nuclear bomb - "RDS-1"
Nuclear charge was first tested in 29 august 1949 on Semipalatinsk test ground. Power of the charge was about 20 kiloton TNT.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Первая тактическая серийная атомная бомба — РДС–4
Испытана в 1953 году на Семипалатинском полигоне. Мощность заряда до 30 килотонн тротилового эквивалента. На вооружении с 1954 по 1956 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
First tactical nuclear bomb - "RDS-4"
Tested in 1953 on Semipalatinsk test ground. Power of the charge was about 30 kiloton TNT. Was adopted in 1954-1956 yy.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Первая в мире водородная бомба — РДС–6с
Испытание заряда проведено 12 августа 1953 года на Семипалатинском полигоне. Мощность заряда до 400 килотонн тротилового эквивалента.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
World's first hydrogen bomb - "RDS-6s"
Charge was tested in 12 august 1953 on Semipalatinsk test ground. Power of the charge was about 400 kiloton TNT.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Первая ядерная боевая часть для тактической ракеты
Мощность заряда до 10 килотонн тротилового эквивалента. Дальность полёта до 32 км. На вооружении с 1960 по 1967 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
First nuclear warhead for tactical missile.
Power of the charge was about 10 kiloton TNT. Range of a missile - 32 km. Was adopted in 1960-1967 yy.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Термоядерный боевой блок для первой межконтинентальной баллистической ракеты
Мощность заряда более 2 мегатонн тротилового эквивалента. Дальность полёта до 12 000 км. На вооружении с 1970 по 1979 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
Thermonuclear warhead for first ICBM.
Power of the charge was about 2 megaton TNT. Range of a missile - 12 000 km. Was adopted in 1970-1979 yy.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Первая ядерная боевая часть для баллистической ракеты среднего радиуса действия
Мощность заряда до 40 килотонн тротилового эквивалента. Дальность полёта до 1200 км. На вооружении до 1960 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
First thermonuclear warhead for intermediate-range ballistic missile.
Power of the charge was about 40 kiloton TNT. Range of a missile - 1200 km. Was adopted until 1960.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Первая термоядерная боевая часть для межконтинентальной баллистической ракеты
Мощность заряда до 3 мегатонн тротилового эквивалента. Дальность полёта до 8500 км. На вооружении с 1960 по 1966 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
First thermonuclear warhead for ICBM
Power of the charge was about 3 megaton TNT. Range of a missile - 8500 km. Was adopted in 1960-1966 yy.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Самая мощная в мире экспериментальная бомба — А602ЭН
Испытана 30 октября 1961 года на полигоне „Новая Земля“. Расчётная мощность более 100 мегатонн тротилового эквивалента. Испытана на половинную мощность.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
World's most powerful experimental bomb - "A602EN"
Tested 30 october 1961 on Novaya Zemlya test ground.
Calculated power was more than 100 megaton TNT. Tested in half of the power.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Термоядерная боевая часть для оперативно-тактической ракеты, снятой с вооружения по договору о РСМД
Мощность заряда до 200 килотонн тротилового эквивалента. Дальность полёта до 450 км. На вооружении с 1981 по 1991 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
Thermonuclear warhead for tactical missile, decommissioned under INF treaty.
Power of the charge was about 200 kiloton TNT. Range of a missile - 450 km. Was adopted in 1981-1991 yy.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Установка для проведения испытаний ядерных зарядов в скважинах диаметром 920 мм на глубинах до 1000 м
Диаметр 830 мм. Длина 2993 мм. Масса 1130 кг. Первое испытание в 1984 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
Device for nuclear tests in 920 mm diameter and 1000 m depth borehole. Diameter - 830 mm. Lenght - 2993 mm. Weight - 1130 kg. First test in 1984.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Установка для проведения испытаний ядерных зарядов в скважинах диаметром 720 мм на глубинах до 550 м
Диаметр 600 мм. Длина 2010 мм. Масса 990 кг. Первое испытание в 1975 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
Device for nuclear tests in 720 mm diameter and 550 m depth borehole. Diameter - 600 mm. Lenght - 2010 mm. Weight - 990 kg. First test in 1975.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Артиллерийские ядерные снаряды
Макет первого ядерного снаряда РДС–41 (11Д). Калибр — 452 миллиметра, испытан 16 марта 1956 года.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИЭФ г. Саров.
Nuclear artillery shells
Dummy of first nuclear shell "RDS-41 (11D)" Caliber - 452 mm, tested in 16 March 1956.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIIEF museum, Sarov city.

Академик Б. В. Литвинов у 152 мм. ядерного снаряда.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИТФ г. Снежинск.
Academician B. V. Litvinov near a 152-mm nuclear shell.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIITF museum, Snezhinsk city.

Самый малогабаритный ядерный боеприпас — артиллерийский 152-миллиметровый снаряд. Выдерживает перегрузки артиллерийского выстрела без разрушений и потери характеристик. Разработан в обводах штатного осколочно-фугасного снаряда к самоходной пушке.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИТФ г. Снежинск.
Smallest nuclear charge - 152-mm artillery shell. Endure a forces of an artillery shot without destruction or losses of characteristics. Developed in shape of the standart HE shell for self-propelled howitzer.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIITF museum, Snezhinsk city.

Промышленные ядерные заряды
Всего для промышленного применения было разработано 14 типов ядерных взрывных устройств (ЯВУ), из которых 9 были одобрены и использованы 70 раз для промышленных целей.
Industrial nuclear charges
For industrial purposes was developed in total a 14 types of nuclear explosive devices (NED), 9 of which was approved and used 70 times for industrial purposes.

Ядерное взрывное устройство
Разработано во второй половине 1960-х гг. специально для подземных взрывов, предназначенных для промышленных и научных целей, в частности для:
ликвидации аварийных газовых и нефтяных фонтанов;
создания подземных емкостей для захоронения вредных отходов;
создания подземных хранилищ жидких или газообразных химических продуктов;
интенсификации разработки нефтяных и газовых месторождений;
сейсмозондирования и геофизических исследований земной коры.
В 1968 г. успешно применено для ликвидации аварийного газового фонтана на месторождении „Памук“ в Средней Азии, а также в других местах.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИТФ г. Снежинск.
Nuclear explosive device
Developed in secon half of 1960-s specially for undeground explosions, intended for industrial and scientific purposes, in particular for:
liquidation of accidental gas gas blowout or oil-gushers;
digging of undeground nuclear waste containments;
digging of undeground storages for liquid or gaseous chemical products;
intensification of development of oil and gas fields;
seismic reconnaissance and geophysical researches of the earth's crust.
In 1968 was succesfully used for liquidation of accidental gas blowout on "Pamuk" field in Central Asia, and also in some other places.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIITF museum, Snezhinsk city.

Термоядерная авиабомба.
Бомба предназначалась для проведения натурных испытаний ядерных зарядов большой мощности (20–50 мегатонн). Она представляет собой баллистическое тело обтекаемой формы с хвостовым оперением. Диаметр 2 м, длина 8 м, масса 30 т.
Для обеспечения возможности транспортировки авиабомбы такого большого калибра была проведена специальная доработка самолёта Ту-95, позволившая разместить на нём авиабомбу, частично заглубив её внутри фюзеляжа.
Бомбометание производилось на дозвуковой скорости. Для обеспечения безопасности экипажа самолёта-носителя от поражающих факторов сброшенной им бомбы была разработана парашютная система: 2 вытяжных парашюта площадью 0,52 и 5 м 2, четыре тормозных — по 42 м 2 и основной парашют — площадью 1600 м 2. Перегрузки не превышали 5 единиц, скорость снижения обеспечивалась в пределах 20–25 м/с.
В дальнейшем на базе такой парашютной системы были разработаны системы спасения для спускаемых аппаратов управляемых космических ракет.
Бомба испытана на половинную мощность 24 декабря 1962 года на полигоне „Новая Земля“.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИТФ г. Снежинск.
Thermonuclear aircraft bomb
Bomb was intended for full-scale tests of high-power nuclear charges (20-50 megaton). It is a streamlined ballistic body with tail unit.
Diameter - 2 m, lenght - 8 m, weight - 30 t.
For providing of transportation of such large air bomb, it was a special redesign of Tu-95 bomber, allowed to place a bomb on the plane, partially embedding it inside a fuselage.
Bombing was executed in a sub-sonic speed. For securing a aircraft crew of damage effects, caused by dropped bomb, was developed a drogue-chute system: 2 pilot parachutes of 0,52 and 5 m2, 4 drogue-chutes of 42 m2 and main chute - 1600 m2. G forces was not exceed a 5 g. Fall speed was about 20-25 m/sec. Later was developed an escape systems for landing modules of manned space ships, based on this parachute system.
Bomb was half-scale tested in 24 december 1962 on Novaya Zemlya test ground.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIITF museum, Snezhinsk city.

Ядерная бомба для применения со сверхзвуковых самолётов
Первая атомная бомба, освоенная серийным производством и принятая на вооружение фронтовой и дальней авиацией.
Длина 3365 мм, диаметр 580 мм, масса 450 кг. Аэродинамическая форма с малым коэффициентом сопротивления. Хвостовое оперение типа „свободное перо“. Бомбометание допускается с высоты от 500 до 30 000 м и при скоростях до 3000 км/ч как при горизонтальном полёте, так и со сложным видом манёвра.
Разработана и принята на вооружение в 1960-х гг.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИТФ г. Снежинск.
Nuclear bomb for supersonic aircrafts
First mass-produced nuclear bomb, adopted by front-line and long-range bomber air forces.
Lenght 3365 mm, diameter 580 mm, weight 450 kg. Streamlined body with low drag coefficient. Bombing allowed at height of 500 to 30 000 m with speed up to 3000 km/h for level flight or maneuvering.
Developed and adopted in 1960-s.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIITF museum, Snezhinsk city.

Отделяемая моноблочная головная часть баллистической ракеты
Пуск осуществляется с подводной лодки на дальность до 1500 км. В этом ракетном комплексе впервые реализован подводный пуск ракеты с глубины 40-50 м.
Изделие имеет в своём составе термоядерный заряд мегатонного класса.
Габаритные размеры: длина 2300 мм, диаметр 1304 мм.
Масса 1144 кг.
Изделие разрабатывалось и испытывалось в начале 1960-х гг., принято на вооружение в 1963 г.
Музей РФЯЦ–ВНИИТФ г. Снежинск.
Detachable monoblock warhead for ballistic missile
Missile is launched from submarine on range up to 1500 km. In this missile complex was first realized underwater launch from depth of 40-50 m.
Device has a megaton-class thermonuclear charge.
Lenght 2300 mm, diameter 1304 mm. Weight 1144 kg.
Device was developed and tested at the beginning of 1960-s, adopted in 1963.
Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIITF museum, Snezhinsk city.

Ohhh... It was hard... And only half of the text... Sorry for possible errors - I'm rarely write such long texts in eglish. Maybe somebody do the rest part for you. :)

Revive
04-04-2009, 01:36 PM
wow thanks for ur effort, i wanted to know the meaning too!

Dinges
04-04-2009, 01:40 PM
Cyborn. Thank you for the effort. Good going!