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asch
06-12-2009, 01:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwu3ivAJ68U

Silly video and all, but it's an amazing demonstration all the same. I don't think I've ever seen a man carry and fire a 50 cal weapon.
it's from a very stupid tv series, with blank ammo, which had very little recoil.

void
06-12-2009, 01:47 AM
it's from a very stupid tv series, with blank ammo, which had very little recoil.

Still, if you tried doing that with any other HMG, you would give yourself a hernia just trying to lift it. The Kord truly is a masterpiece in terms of engineering.

Mousepad
06-12-2009, 04:35 AM
That was sarcasm. The soviet/russian marines haven't been used in their primary role since WWII.

Angola.

dgdfgdfg

gatkii810
06-12-2009, 05:44 AM
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gatkii810
06-12-2009, 06:10 AM
Hey, gatkii810 (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/member.php?u=66474), how come last year during the war in Georgia it was the airborne units who landed in Abhazia using your Black Sea Fleet transport ships and not the Marines? You guys are only good for "pokazukha"?

I understood you! morpekhi CHF polnomasshtabno one hundred percents did not participate a razved company participated! reasons are rather such a 1. chislenost' shelf was not sufficient because in part of personnel was on active service in adriateke! and greater part was on the marine landing ground of "OPUK" (under feodosiey) as on August month a regiment is there on studies! and in place of basing there is a command of guard and providing!

such studies are conducted two times in a year! 2. reason number two it is not expedient it was to use us! as this was an operation under constraint to the world. but not on the capture of the Georgian coast! but to me rather nearer the first reason!

jaybe
06-12-2009, 06:27 AM
Angola.


Somalia also

Mousepad
06-12-2009, 07:06 AM
Somalia also

You mean present anti-piracy campaign, or i missed something?

gatkii810
06-12-2009, 07:26 AM
bicycle troops))))))

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06-12-2009, 07:52 AM
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Repost however its always funny seein the good old buryat colonel kickin some young soldiers ass in wrestling :):)

gatkii810
06-12-2009, 08:35 AM
Power exercises
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCigtu4p2bY

Kunal Biswas
06-12-2009, 09:08 AM
Is that captured Humvee on 1:46?


These may not be American Humvee, But a new Russian 4 x 4 Vehicle which resemble Humvee :roll: .... If i am wrong please correct me !!



http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/KunalBiswas/20090612173829.jpg?t=1244811223

http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/KunalBiswas/20090612173902.jpg?t=1244811225




http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/KunalBiswas/user50866_pic2650_1212517688.jpg?t=1244811649



http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/KunalBiswas/Hummer-Humvee_Military_Vehicle_2003.jpg?t=1244811502

Kunal Biswas
06-12-2009, 09:21 AM
This is the M1114GR, the Hellenic Army HMMWV used as a Kornet-E ATGM platform. It is also armored (by Plasan Sasa).

The Portugese MPAV-2 Hummers have an identical armor suite.


Thanks for info :)......

evb58362
06-13-2009, 03:51 AM
Extended comment-free footage of recent training:
http://www.zvezdanews.ru/video/0032015/?PHPSESSID=9c07b6afbb9b829f9a216cf72af2d611

Pitchup
06-13-2009, 05:14 AM
You mean present anti-piracy campaign, or i missed something?

No, harsh evacuation from Somalia in 1977.
http://alerozin.narod.ru/Somalia.htm
http://www.coldwar.ru/conflicts/afrika/mp.jpg

XRR496
06-13-2009, 10:26 AM
http://caricatura.ru/parad/korsun/pic/12148.jpg

:)

JohnnyWalker
06-13-2009, 10:37 AM
Photos of young men going to Chechnya, already there, and Awards, poems, and other things.

R.I.P to everyone lost in the conflict.

Thank you to artofwar.ru

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TheArmenian
06-13-2009, 11:03 AM
Great clip of the oldest serving ships of the Navy in the Black Sea.

The cruiser KERCH and destroyer SMETLYVY showing their might by firing guns, missiles, torpedoes.

http://www.youtube.com/v/ay6M1pYYntU&feature=related

Lucky man
06-13-2009, 11:08 AM
somebody have detailed picture for MASKA intergerated communication system ?? and picture inside the MASKA helmet..

Thanks..

Universals
06-13-2009, 01:50 PM
It seems Berezhok turret is in serial production for russian army (they are green). Anyone know if they are intended for modernized BMP-2s or for new BTR-90 vehicles? What is elevation for Kornet launchers?

BMP 3
I would think.

Dark Avenger
06-13-2009, 02:25 PM
Huh? The BMP-3M (and the BMD-4) have the Bakcha-U turret, not the Berezhok...

Universals
06-13-2009, 02:30 PM
Huh? The BMP-3M (and the BMD-4) have the Bakcha-U turret, not the Berezhok...
oh ok. but the gun looks similar to the BMP3 auto-cannon

Dark Avenger
06-13-2009, 02:37 PM
Maybe you confused the Berezhok (http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/bron/light/bmp2.htm) (modified BMP-2 turret) with the Bakhcha (http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/bron/light/bakhcha.htm) seen towards the end of the vid?

Baron Harkonnen
06-13-2009, 05:07 PM
Seems like another strange project -
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1957/jk2.jpg

Baron Harkonnen
06-13-2009, 05:15 PM
Huh? The BMP-3M (and the BMD-4) have the Bakcha-U turret, not the Berezhok...

BMP-3M has not Bakcha-U battle compartament. The Bakcha-U battle compartament for now is taken into service with the complex of amunition for BMD-s of airborne forces.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3631/bmd41w.jpg

gafkiwi
06-13-2009, 05:16 PM
Seems like another strange project -
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1957/jk2.jpg

I've seen that before, My brother had one!!! Well Hasbro must've taken some influence from it when they made the Cobra "Maggot" I think it was called.

Baron Harkonnen
06-13-2009, 05:21 PM
I've seen that before, My brother had one!!! Well Hasbro must've taken some influence from it when they made the Cobra "Maggot" I think it was called.

This idea lives for a long time in the minds of developers of many countries.

JohnnyWalker
06-13-2009, 06:14 PM
Part 1 of Vitalys report on VTTV-Omsk-2009. Great photos. One of a kind.
Thank you Vitaly, I think we are all jealous.

http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/200

Jiggy
06-13-2009, 06:45 PM
11,170,232 views.

probably the most view'd thread on this site, good stuff.

TheEvian100
06-13-2009, 09:16 PM
From joint exercise between HAF and RuF, Mirage 2000EG/BG and Su27 and Su-30 aircraft:
http://www.youtube.com/v/81Lcys6nYuw
credit: Manos


It was the first time our pilots managed to fly such aircraft and they praised their manouvreability (radar and other weapon modes were not enabled).

GazB
06-13-2009, 09:37 PM
Hopefully there shouldnt be too many problems. All they really need to do is make a Russian version of the SS-18, replacing Ukrainian made components. No need to do anything revolutionary.

If they can make it better and cheaper and much more efficient then this is an opportunity to do so. The retired SS-18s have been very useful for launching satellites commercially and have a very good reliability record. Building a replacement with the same good performance that can also be "retired" in the same way or can even be designed as a fully dual use system that can be used for either role would be beneficial. It means Force sizes can be increased rapidly if needed, but more importantly any excess ICBM capacity can be used launching satellites instead of just being scrapped.


I'm not sure, but it was mentioned that they developed a new highly durable plastic.
“We succeeded in creating the plastic, which exists and works at a temperature of 200 degrees and functions at temperatures to 600 degrees”

well you can read it here

Sorry, I can't read or speak Russian. :(
From the comment about resisting high temperatures however I am begining to think they might actually mean the body of the shell to reduce overall shell weight as in penetrator rounds. For example a full bore penetrator round will generally have a light alloy outer case with a very hard core that penetrates the target. This gets rid of the problems with Sabot components that might get sucked into intakes of aircraft, or injure nearby friendly troops. It also improves accuracy because there is no inconsistent sabot seperation. It does mean higher drag on the way to the target so more velocity is lost but as I said accuracy is generally better and aircraft can fire it without problems.
It might also be used in rounds that don't rely on shell fragmentation for effect like the cargo round for the GSh-301 (like AHEAD but without the ability to set the timed fuse) or for blast HE rounds.


On top of the photo it says "The bomb FAB-3000 that was used by the crews of the 840th regiment in flights to Afghanistan in February 1989" (The Soviet troops pulled out on the 15th of February).

Let you in on a secret... the US wasn't really the first to try "shock and awe". During the withdrawl of Soviet forces from Afghanistan many western "experts" actually thought they were escalating rather than withdrawing. The British lost a whole army withdrawing from afghanistan in the past... the Soviets didn't want to repeat all of Britains mistakes there.


Seems like another strange project -

The idea of trailers is not really new, the Soviet tanks often towed small trailers with extra ammo and items in afghanistan. Vehicles like the DT-10P and DT-30P actually benefit from the hydraulic link between the two vehicles for mobility. As an example with being able to use the connection to manouver the other component such an articulated amphibious vehicle can actually get out of water onto floating ice and rescue itself. In deep snow or mud in most situations I would expect such a set up would also allow self recovery from sticky situations too.
In practical terms it might also be dictated by the fact that the entire turret of the vehicle with the main gun might be filled to capacity with an auto loader system that precludes the crew number being more than 2 or three inside the vehicle (ie in the hull). As such another vehicle would make sense to carry extra equipment and crew. The question becomes is there benefits in making that a seperate support vehicle or an attached vehicle as in this case.


It seems Berezhok turret is in serial production for russian army (they are green). Anyone know if they are intended for modernized BMP-2s or for new BTR-90 vehicles? What is elevation for Kornet launchers?

At the rate of introduction of new vehicles perhaps it is for both?
Elevation of Kornet would probably not be much greater than about 30 degrees. As the missile is guided after launch it shouldn't matter too much however.

TORA
06-13-2009, 09:43 PM
This idea lives for a long time in the minds of developers of many countries.

Since middle 80's at least, there's plenty of reference in Japanese magazines back then, Sweden was probably the foremost example.

Karaahmetoglu
06-13-2009, 09:52 PM
From joint exercise between HAF and RuF, Mirage 2000EG/BG and Su27 and Su-30 aircraft:
http://www.youtube.com/v/81Lcys6nYuw
credit: Manos


It was the first time our pilots managed to fly such aircraft and they praised their maneuverability (radar and other weapon modes were not enabled).

What did they say about it compared to the Mirage 2000? They praised the maneuverability of it, is that compared to that of the Mirage 2000?

JohnnyWalker
06-13-2009, 10:02 PM
I don't speak HAF what did it say?

void
06-13-2009, 10:26 PM
There is a version of BMP-3 (BMP-3K I think) that uses that turret.

You might be thinking either the BMD-3 or most likely the recon vehicle based on the BMP-3 chassis.

K-5
06-13-2009, 10:57 PM
You might be thinking either the BMD-3 or most likely the recon vehicle based on the BMP-3 chassis.
Yeah, BRM-3 Rys has turret similar to that of BMP-2,but not Berezhek.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/brm_3k.jpg

Norsu
06-14-2009, 05:50 AM
Yeah, BRM-3 Rys has turret similar to that of BMP-2,but not Berezhek.

That cannon doesn't look like the standard 30mm 2A42 (different muzzle). Any idea what is it?

K-5
06-14-2009, 05:52 AM
That cannon doesn't look like the standard 30mm 2A42 (different muzzle). Any idea what is it?
Recce asset needs not to discover itself with blown dust streaks and projected muzzle flames.
PS later version had 2A72 not 2A42.

ryonrivera
06-14-2009, 08:01 AM
found this cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zcewT7520&feature=fvw sorry if repost

Hyde
06-14-2009, 09:16 AM
Not a video. -.-

thanamestolga
06-14-2009, 09:53 AM
Hmm, i was wondering.

Does anyone think they could find a Russian soldier carrying or at least handling a Western Weapons system?

I live in "Harp Akademileri" in Istanbul and i saw this huge Russian guy that stays here too, but ive never really seen any of em at least hold an M-16 or M4 or somethin :P

GDS
06-14-2009, 11:45 AM
Hmm, i was wondering.

Does anyone think they could find a Russian soldier carrying or at least handling a Western Weapons system?

You could find such pics in that topic)

Maksim
06-14-2009, 11:55 AM
one photo from my friend:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5867/image001ngs.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/image001ngs.jpg/)

dzhaga-dzhaga
06-14-2009, 01:46 PM
one photo from my friend:


maybe it would be better to post preview?!

dzhaga-dzhaga
06-14-2009, 01:54 PM
as i wrote several week later OSN Saturn is now testing a lot of new stuff.

The guys took few pokazuha pics for the test results report.

The team was supplied by protective plastic kit (the manufacturer wasn't named to the fighetrs, but i guess, it was NPP Klass)

http://osnsaturn.ru/images/saturn_44.jpg

http://osnsaturn.ru/images/saturn_45.jpg


After several trainings the plastic detailes were damaged. Very fragile.


http://osnsaturn.ru/images/saturn_43.jpg

http://osnsaturn.ru/images/saturn_42.jpg

-Julik- 4.GdKp
06-14-2009, 02:43 PM
one photo from my friend:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5867/image001ngs.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/image001ngs.jpg/)

Really kick-ass photo!Thx!

~~~~
06-14-2009, 02:43 PM
indeed they're very special...

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3892/saturn44.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/saturn44.jpg/)

TheArmenian
06-14-2009, 02:48 PM
PakFa test bed or SU35 assembly?


That is the third prototype Su-35. The one that had an incident on the ground and was destroyed.

holyfetzer
06-14-2009, 02:56 PM
as i wrote several week later OSN Saturn is now testing a lot of new stuff.

The guys took few pokazuha pics for the test results report.

The team was supplied by protective plastic kit (the manufacturer wasn't named to the fighetrs, but i guess, it was NPP Klass

After several trainings the plastic detailes were damaged. Very fragile.



I am very amazed about the fact that one of them is using a Glock...how is that? Never seen them in official use in Russia.

GDS
06-14-2009, 03:03 PM
I am very amazed about the fact that one of them is using a Glock...how is that? Never seen them in official use in Russia.
Spec-\osn- units use what they need

komaR
06-14-2009, 04:37 PM
indeed they're very special...

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3892/saturn44.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/saturn44.jpg/)

Wow ! They´re using Petzl-Headlamps ? I also have a Petzl but i´am using it for nightfishing :) (Very good Headlamps)
Why Petzl ?

shingo_tln
06-14-2009, 04:51 PM
indeed they're very special...

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3892/saturn44.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/saturn44.jpg/)
The guy could be lefthander...

Art-spb
06-14-2009, 05:35 PM
Wow really nice clip also any Russian mate can give any info what song says?
"When we were at war, each of us thinking about his girlfriend or his wife."

GTR
06-14-2009, 07:06 PM
Wow ! They´re using Petzl-Headlamps ? I also have a Petzl but i´am using it for nightfishing :) (Very good Headlamps)
Why Petzl ?
And why not? :)

________________

Legendary battle for hill 776 (russian) 90 VDV solders vs aprox. 2000 rebels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC3rorOWuDg

Tor missile system
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyRFeQBoipU

STEPAN1983
06-14-2009, 07:21 PM
their uniform sucks (another variation of so popular "mabuta"), I can see that the fabric is low-quality (this kind of russian made cotton/polyester fabric is called "steklyashka"). Gear is sucks too, for example instead of using vests (we are talking about assault group), pouches mounted on the belt with ALICE clips (The year is 2009 damn it!) Also this guys dont now how to use all this "new stuff", look at the holster :D And why they use anti-riot protective gear for assault?

This photos are fecking shame

Xaito
06-14-2009, 08:26 PM
their uniform sucks (another variation of so popular "mabuta"), I can see that the fabric is low-quality (this kind of russian made cotton/polyester fabric is called "steklyashka"). Gear is sucks too, for example instead of using vests (we are talking about assault group), pouches mounted on the belt with ALICE clips (The year is 2009 damn it!) Also this guys dont now how to use all this "new stuff", look at the holster :D And why they use anti-riot protective gear for assault?

This photos are fecking shame

in case you've forgotten to read before writing:


The guys took few pokazuha pics for the test results report.

so chill, mr. geardo.
they don't use it for anything - neither anti-riot nor assault...
they were just posing for pictures with new stuff they got to try out.

JohnnyWalker
06-15-2009, 12:02 AM
Part 1 of Vitalys report on VTTV-Omsk-2009. Great photos. One of a kind.
Thank you Vitaly, I think we are all jealous.

http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/200

I guess I'm the only one appreciative of his photos

void
06-15-2009, 12:08 AM
I guess I'm the only one appreciative of his photos

I am VERY appreciative of these photos.

dzhaga-dzhaga
06-15-2009, 04:00 AM
indeed they're very special...


nothing interesting. could be with anyone. and besides this guy is not from fighting squad, i know him

dzhaga-dzhaga
06-15-2009, 04:07 AM
their uniform sucks (another variation of so popular "mabuta"), I can see that the fabric is low-quality (this kind of russian made cotton/polyester fabric is called "steklyashka"). Gear is sucks too, for example instead of using vests (we are talking about assault group), pouches mounted on the belt with ALICE clips (The year is 2009 damn it!) Also this guys dont now how to use all this "new stuff", look at the holster :D And why they use anti-riot protective gear for assault?

This photos are fecking shame


you are not very attentive, read and think before write

Jippo
06-15-2009, 04:23 AM
nothing interesting. could be with anyone. and besides this guy is not from fighting squad, i know him

What is the problem with the holster anyway? Why is everyone *****ing about it? Is it because he hasn't got a gun in it?

If so, I don't get the problem. They are taking pictures, not training or anything.

asch
06-15-2009, 04:55 AM
nothing special, just multiple-tilda guy having problem with all thing Russian. or so i think.

dorinne wong
06-15-2009, 05:40 AM
Here is some of Russian Armor that I have, enjoy...
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9075/96cnvr4.jpg


http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1948/60igjy7.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1214/t90eq3.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9673/200602092631013gh8ll8.jpg



http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3285/mac0001qh0.jpg


http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/4682/71unys0.jpg

I know that last one is photoshopped, but still looks sweet :)


hi,very nice picture
is it an exercise?:)

IDF_TANKER
06-15-2009, 06:03 AM
I seriously have no words to describe this. It's not connected with weapons or technology, but it's connected with our history. Watch it, guys.

http://www.youtube.com/v/XvHX0bgoouc

Simply amazing. Deserves a thread of its own, IMHO.

Moche`
06-15-2009, 06:52 AM
2nd prototype Su-35BM.
2nd Prototype for Su-35 the plane with bort 902???

void
06-15-2009, 07:04 AM
2nd Prototype for Su-35 the plane with bort 902???

bort 901 was for static testing, bort 902 was the one shown at MAKS in 2007, bort 903 was the 2nd flying prototype, bort 904 is the one that crashed on taxiing recently

TheArmenian
06-15-2009, 07:15 AM
This photo is a keeper.

The various rounds for the RPG-7.

Can someone identify each one???

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3436/2240827.jpg

void
06-15-2009, 07:21 AM
this photo is a keeper.

The various rounds for the rpg-7.

Can someone identify each one???

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3436/2240827.jpg

pg-7vr, pg-7vl, tgb-7v, og-7v

~~~~
06-15-2009, 07:23 AM
nothing special, just multiple-tilda guy having problem with all thing Russian. or so i think.

in case you did not notice: the guy wears his holster in a reverse way. if you think it is important to remember that he's Russian, let it be then.

PS: on the other hand, it's a great thread. keep it living!

TheArmenian
06-15-2009, 07:24 AM
Can you identify the rest?

void
06-15-2009, 07:36 AM
Can you identify the rest?

Not the specific designations, but the next one is the PG-7VR equivalent round for the RPG-29. Following this is also the equivalent round from the RPG-27 (its just a single use container tube), then its the TGB-7V round equivalent for the RPG-27 (RShG-1 i think)

The last 2 are just smaller calibre for small disposable tube RPGs, cant remember the number off the top of my head.
Edit: the last 2 are for the RPG-26, 72.5mm, RShG-2 is the name of the thermobaric version

Jippo
06-15-2009, 07:49 AM
in case you did not notice: the guy wears his holster in a reverse way. if you think it is important to remember that he's Russian, let it be then.


Just for your and other couch commando's information, the holster is a Safariland 6004 for pistol with light.

And that is the exact way you are supposed to hang it on you. It is right way around, I know, I use the same holster.

Good job...

jaybe
06-15-2009, 07:51 AM
Yak jet producer got order for 150 Yak-130 trainers

AlexMartin2
06-15-2009, 08:05 AM
Yak jet producer got order for 150 Yak-130 trainers

60+ for RuAF, 16 for Algeria, and 150 for unknown custormer, probably China or some M.East oil country. I think it is a very big success!

Holycrusader
06-15-2009, 08:11 AM
Just for your and other couch commando's information, the holster is a Safariland 6004 for pistol with light.

And that is the exact way you are supposed to hang it on you. It is right way around, I know, I use the same holster.

Good job...

You own that guy... Good job!!!

TakeIt
06-15-2009, 08:20 AM
Here are the designations of grenades i'm aware of:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5007/11234123.jpg

sepheronx
06-15-2009, 08:21 AM
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6898/0151201.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/0151201.jpg/)

Piotr Butowski
The Russian Air Force made an unexpected shift in the priorities for its future fighter, stating that the service will back the simultaneous development of two programs for a fifth-generation aircraft. The PAK FA medium-weight fighter program, which has been underway since 2002, is joined by MiG's lighter-weight aircraft project. In addition to the goal of winning domestic orders, MiG's light multi-role fighter build on the company's earlier experience with its MiG 1.44 program, also may attract India as a co-developer and future customer.
In April 2002, the Russian military chose Sukhoi's T-50 proposal in the fifth-generation fighter contest — which was codenamed the Perspektivniy Aviatsionniy Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsii (PAK FA), or future tactical aviation air system. Since 2002, Sukhoi has been regularly meeting the subsequent milestones in the new fighter's development, which led to the Russian Air Force's approval of the T-50's preliminary design. To date, Sukhoi has developed a computer mock-up of the aircraft and an operating mockup of the cockpit. The PAK FA prototype's maiden flight is expected in 2009.
Sukhoi's victory in the Russian Air Force competition resulted not only from the T-50's design characteristics. The choice was made with the consideration of the company's sizeable profits from the sales of the Su-27 family aircraft to China and India in the 1990s and early 2000s. At that time, Sukhoi fighters represented half of Russia's aircraft production, and nearly half of Russian military technology exports. During the 1990s, Sukhoi maintained the largest workload of all Russian design bureaus. Unlike other Russian aircraft designers, the company counted more on its own resources than on government subsidies.
The Sukhoi T-50's rival in 2002 was the MiG design, the exact designation of which is classified. Later, when MiG Corp. decided to continue this program, it received the codename Liogkiy Mnogofunktsionalniy Frontovoi Samolyot (LMFS) or Light Multi-role Tactical Aircraft. MiG Corp. did not accept defeat in the contest against Sukhoi, and criticized the decision-making procedure. According to MiG, several aspects were omitted during the evaluation, like the purchase cost for the Air Force, the aircraft's lifetime maintenance costs and the export possibilities of various versions during the next few decades. MiG insisted that instead of initial projects, the choice of a winner should have been made at the phase of prototype tests.

Looking for foreign partner
About a year ago, MiG's LMFS project came out of the shadows again due to a series of fortunate events. Some time ago, the Indian Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) started analyzing the development options for a home-grown fifth-generation fighter, called the Medium Combat Aircraft (MCA), which was a twin-engine version of the its Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas fighter. After a bad experience with the LCA, India sought a partner in Russia for the MCA program.
The re-birth of MiG's LMFS project also was helped by the company's improved financial situation, resulting from several contracts for new versions of the MiG-29 that were signed in recent years. India ordered 16 MiG-29K/KUB ship-based fighters with the option for 30 more, Yemen purchased or upgraded 20 MiG-29SMT/UBT fighters, and Algeria ordered 34 MiG-29SMT/UBTs. New contracts for 32 fighters for Yemen and the upgrade of 66 aircraft in India are expected to be signed in the coming months. This will provide MiG with a portfolio of orders worth $4.5 billion.
Another event favorable for the LMFS program was the September 2004 nomination of Alexey Fedorov, the president of Russia's largest privately-held jet manufacturer — the Irkut Corporation — as the top manager at MiG. Fedorov is well known in India because in his previous role as Irkut's leader, he sold the Su-30MKI combat aircraft to India and was starting its license production there. Fedorov's contacts will certainly help the promotion of MiG-35 and LMFS fighters in India. In the coming months, Fedorov is to become the head of the OAK Corporation, which is a consolidation of Russia's aircraft industry. Therefore, it is expected that the LMFS program will be high on OAK's priority list.
A joint Russian-Indian fighter was discussed for the first time in June 2001. Later, during the visit of then-Indian Defense Minister George Fernandez to Moscow in January 2003, Russia and India signed a protocol declaring the intention to jointly develop a new-generation fighter. At the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Fernandez was shown the T-50 project. The trip of Indian Defense Minister Pranab Mukherjee to Moscow in November 2005 (where he visited both MiG and Sukhoi) was crucial for the Indian-Russian contacts about the new generation fighter. The minister stated that India is not intending to be only a source of money for the project. "Our air force and industry are willing to participate in all stages of the new fighter's creation, starting with the conception, and continuing through the design and research to common production," he said. Mukherjee did not name specific companies and designs, but the phrase above distinctly refers to the MiG fighter, as Sukhoi's design is already complete and the documentation for prototype aircraft manufacture is nearly ready. Moreover, the Sukhoi aircraft is being developed in accordance with the Russian Air Force requirements and does not meet the needs of India. However, Russia is still pressing India to join the Sukhoi PAK FA program. In early August 2006, a Sukhoi delegation was again in India, and presented their project to the Ministry of Defense.

LMFS is different
A great advantage of the MiG project is the fact that its design and technical parameters are significantly different from the Sukhoi T-50. As a result, the market does not have to choose between an "either-or" situation, and both aircraft can find their place, depending upon the needs of potential export clients. The MiG proposal is for a "right-sized" aircraft that would be in the realistic price range for most foreign buyers, as best described by the frequently-quoted phrase of Mikoyan Design Bureau Director Vladimir Barkovskiy: "smaller and simpler aircraft would be inferior to its competitors, but larger and more sophisticated would be too expensive." In 2002, the then-CEO of MiG Corp. Nikolay Nikitin stated that an outlay of $1.3 billion per year between 2010-2025 would be enough to cover a Russian Air Force purchase and operation of a necessary number of MiG-designed aircraft, while a heavier Sukhoi aircraft would cost $2 billion per year. MiG also estimates the export potential of its lighter-weight fighter as 3-4.5 times higher than the Sukhoi fighter.
At the moment, one thing is certain: the LMFS will be about 30% lighter than the T-50. According to approximate assessments, the T-50 will have a normal take-off weight of 21 tons, which places it between present MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters — whereas the LMFS is likely to weigh 15 tons. Most probably, the LMFS will retain the delta canard configuration of the heavy MiG 1.44 prototype. Being asked directly about the new fighter configuration, Barkovskiy answered indirectly: "It would be illogical if we reject the experience we accumulated while developing that project [MiG 1.44]." He also mentioned that "the number of wind tunnel tests [of the 1.44 models] was vast, setting a new record in Russia. [So] we are making use of these materials and transforming them into the fifth generation aircraft."
It is not known at the moment whether the new MiG fighter will be powered by one or two engines. Originally, the company's design had two Klimov VK-10 turbofans rated at about 10.5 tons each, which are a further development of the MiG-29's RD-33 engines. In this configuration, the aircraft entered the Russian fighter contest in 2002 and was presented to India in 2005. In addition to their application on MiG's new aircraft, the VK-10 engines also could be used to extend the MiG-29's life in its new MiG-35 version. Moreover, the RD-33/VK-10's manufacturer, the Klimov Company, has become a part of MiG Corporation's engine division, and it is obviously easier for MiG to cooperate with Klimov than with other engine manufacturers.
Developing a single-engine design for MiG's fifth-generation fighter has become a more frequently discussed issue. Such an option was backed Russian Air Force Commander Gen. Mikhailov last January, while similar opinions have come from India as well. If the customers insist on a single-engine design, the use of a version of the AL-41 engine (to be installed on the T-50) with a thrust increase to about 20 tons is possible. Such a solution is cheaper, although it requires the engine to be mature at its entry into service and reach a high level of reliability first.
There is no doubt about the radar choice for the LMFS. At the Bangalore Aero India air show in February 2007, the Phazotron-NIIR institute will present the first Russian fighter radar with an active electronic scanning antenna (AESA): the Zhuk-MAE, which was developed for the MiG-35. Two prototypes of the radar were under assembly in the autumn of 2006. The fifth-generation LMFS fighter will certainly be fitted with a development of this radar. The cooperative links between MiG Corp. and Phazotron-NIIR were strengthened at the beginning of 2006 when a group of MiG's top managers purchased a controlling stake of Phazotron. In May 2006, Mikhail Korzhuyev became the director general of Phazotron, while Sergei Tsivilev, the MiG Corp's First Deputy CEO, was elected the chairman of Phazotron's board.

One or two fifth generation fighters?
The possibility of India's participation in the LMFS project generated new interest in this program from the Russian Air Force. Shortly after the Moscow visit of Indian Defense Minister Mukherjee last January, Russian Air Force Gen. Vladimir Mikhailov declared that "two fifth generation fighters, a medium one and a light one, are being developed" in Russia. The medium fighter will be Sukhoi's PAK FA chosen in 2002, while the light next generation fighter was described by the Russian Air Force Commander as a single engine MiG aircraft with the same engine, avionics and armament as the PAK FA.
It is understandable that Gen. Mikhailov's declaration caused anxiety at Sukhoi. A few days later, the head of Sukhoi Holding, Mikhail Pogosyan, said "there is no technology in Russia to develop a light fighter," clearly indicating that — in his opinion — only Sukhoi's PAK FA can be the fifth generation fighter. Moreover, he added that the PAK FA is not a heavy fighter, as "it is considerably smaller than the F-22A, Su-47 or MiG 1.44." According to Pogosyan, "any discussions about Russian heavy and light fifth generation fighters are pointless."Source (http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/15-2006/def/def1/)

Also stated at:
Globalsecurity (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/lmfs.htm)

Did not know about this program!

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8791/normalmig39a0102.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/normalmig39a0102.jpg/)
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2655/normalmig39a0104.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/normalmig39a0104.jpg/)


60+ for RuAF, 16 for Algeria, and 150 for unknown custormer, probably China or some M.East oil country. I think it is a very big success!

Lots of money going to Yakovlev now.

~~~~
06-15-2009, 08:36 AM
edit.

my bad. you were right.

Jippo
06-15-2009, 08:44 AM
Google search "safariland 6004", look in pictures, this is the third result it gives:

http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=31&products_id=2078&osCsid=a099015cf77bbd3fd1fc9a7719609c01

I use it, do you want to argue?

Hast2
06-15-2009, 09:15 AM
edit.

my bad. you were right.

Incompetent troll is incompetent.

~~~~
06-15-2009, 09:59 AM
Incompetent troll is incompetent.

o'rly? what a smartass. anything else to add?
at least I'm honest enough to plaid guilty when I'm incompetent.

jaybe
06-15-2009, 10:19 AM
Hungarian air company Malev orders 30 Sukhoi SSJ-100 for 1 bln $ on Le Bourge

-Julik- 4.GdKp
06-15-2009, 10:38 AM
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6898/0151201.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/0151201.jpg/)
Source (http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/15-2006/def/def1/)

Also stated at:
Globalsecurity (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/lmfs.htm)

Did not know about this program!

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8791/normalmig39a0102.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/normalmig39a0102.jpg/)
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2655/normalmig39a0104.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/normalmig39a0104.jpg/)



Date of the article...

№ 4 (15) November 2006 (http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/15-2006/?sess_=v6c3390eg9edvopejmssvo6h43)

AlexMartin2
06-15-2009, 10:41 AM
Hungarian air company Malev orders 30 Sukhoi SSJ-100 for 1 bln $ on Le Bourge

Sukhoi certainly need to expand its production lines as fast as possible. Planes orders are already exceeded 200.

Mousepad
06-15-2009, 10:44 AM
Sukhoi certainly need to expand its production lines as fast as possible. Planes orders are already exceeded 200.

Any info on domestic orders? I "dowant" to travel in Pininfarina salon.

AlexMartin2
06-15-2009, 10:47 AM
Well, I have only from Wiki :)
Russian companies ordered 80 planes. Quite good amount I think.

sepheronx
06-15-2009, 10:50 AM
Date of the article...

So? There is really no word on the project, but there is stuff flowing out of Mikoyan, like the Mig-35 with technology used from the space industry and alike. They don't talk about Mig SKAT program or anything else. I mean, they used to come up with a lot of technology and projects, but now, what? I don't think Mikoyan is in that much financial trouble, unless Sukhoi stole everything from them.

Serenity
06-15-2009, 11:11 AM
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1360/57307345.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/57307345.jpg/)

Hazard1024
06-15-2009, 11:40 AM
Surpising, but quite a pleasant surprise! I fully expected the SJJ to flop, have crappy sales and fade into obscurity...

GDS
06-15-2009, 11:48 AM
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1360/57307345.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/57307345.jpg/)
Ukrainian:roll:

Xaito
06-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Ukrainian:roll:

no, but repost.

mannelig
06-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Ukrainian:roll:

Where did you see Ukrainian?

Mousepad
06-15-2009, 12:57 PM
Surpising, but quite a pleasant surprise! I fully expected the SJJ to flop, have crappy sales and fade into obscurity...

IIRC, SSJ - profitable at 55% seats taken, TU-204 at 70-75%, leased second-hand A-s and B-s, that our airways use, at 62-65% (if properly serviced, not by fake repair kits) + our brass lately hell-bent on domestic hi-tech and with all this bail-outs have a big say in companies policy, surprise for me was that we got some foreign orders. All in all SSJ - **** YEAH!!! Damn i luuve technology, sell AvtoVAZ to Sukhoi pfffleees

Karpov360
06-15-2009, 01:03 PM
sry deleted

Serenity
06-15-2009, 01:14 PM
More Russian Spetsgruppa A pics:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5407/94058973.th.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=94058973.jpg)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7077/25384498.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25384498.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4707/92487586.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92487586.jpg)
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2487/41236784.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41236784.jpg)
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6374/12737582.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12737582.jpg)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8749/81481495.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=81481495.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3157/11661415.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11661415.jpg)
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7813/56775499.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56775499.jpg)
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3553/56451947.th.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56451947.jpg)

Hyde
06-15-2009, 01:16 PM
IIRC, SSJ - profitable at 55% seats taken, TU-204 at 70-75%, leased second-hand A-s and B-s, that our airways use, at 62-65% (if properly serviced, not by fake repair kits) + our brass lately hell-bent on domestic hi-tech and with all this bail-outs have a big say in companies policy, surprise for me was that we got some foreign orders. All in all SSJ - **** YEAH!!! Damn i luuve technology, sell AvtoVAZ to Sukhoi pfffleees

What about the IL-96? That is a sweet plane, imo.

Mousepad
06-15-2009, 01:30 PM
What about the IL-96? That is a sweet plane, imo.

srry don't have any info on that class of planes, my info was from Russia Business Consulting report on that segment of planes, also IIRC IL-96 only usable outside CIS with Rolls-Royce engines, because of noise restrictions, and we kinda don't produce compatible engines of those class, so it was easyer and faster way to fly on western planes than deeply invest in domestic production, who knows what will come of lately.

Mousepad
06-15-2009, 01:35 PM
I seriously have no words to describe this. It's not connected with weapons or technology, but it's connected with our history. Watch it, guys.

http://www.youtube.com/v/XvHX0bgoouc

How the feck could i've missed it, it's simply awesome, sends goosepimps down the spine, thanks for posting.

Xaito
06-15-2009, 01:46 PM
More Russian Spetsgruppa A pics:
could some of them maybe be Belarus?
Russia doesn't have KGB any more and pic quality looks not like it was shot during soviet times?

TheArmenian
06-15-2009, 01:46 PM
IL-96 fuel consumption per passenger per kilometer, profitability etc. etc. are essentially similar to the Tu-204.

These two airplanes designeded during Soviet times are not as fuel efficient as the latest high tech (composites etc.) Airbuses and Boeings.

The Sukhoi SSJ-100 is the first Russian airplane that matches and even betters the latest Western designs.

Two new Russian passenger planes are being designed nowadays for first flights during 2012-2014. They are:

-The MS-21 (to be built by IRKUT), in various versions with capacities from 150 to 210 passengers. A very high tech aircraft who's fuel consumption will be significantly better than the similar sized latest versions of the Airbus A-320 and Boing 737. http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/24-2009/aero/aero4/

- A wide body being designed by Tupolev for medium duty high capacity routes. A low tech aircraft with around 250 - 300 seats similar in concept to the IL-86. http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/24-2009/aero/aero5/

TR1
06-15-2009, 01:53 PM
All aboard the Superjet crazy train!

User_Name
06-15-2009, 01:55 PM
could some of them maybe be Belarus?
Russia doesn't have KGB any more and pic quality looks not like it was shot during soviet times?
The poster missed them with some ukranian and belorussian pics. second last one is with SBU patch

GTR
06-15-2009, 02:23 PM
Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 World Premiere in Paris Air Show
http://i41.*******.com/a1lnpk.jpg
http://i44.*******.com/xf8fm9.jpg
http://i42.*******.com/2nitgux.jpg
http://i41.*******.com/wbdgzm.jpg

UPD: Today Hungary company Malev annouced that it will buy 30 planes.

JohnnyWalker
06-15-2009, 02:25 PM
Russian Marines - 2007 war games

http://www.youtube.com/v/haSyObFvldU&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6

more

http://www.youtube.com/v/gYf3KESb4yM&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6

xav
06-15-2009, 02:50 PM
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3103/image00002z.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4691/image00010w.jpg

Flankerman
06-15-2009, 02:59 PM
-The MS-21 (to be built by IRKUT), in various versions with capacities from 150 to 210 passengers. A very high tech aircraft who's fuel consumption will be significantly better than the similar sized latest versions of the Airbus A-320 and Boing 737. http://www.ato.ru/rus/cis/archive/24-2009/aero/aero4/


I wish Irkut would get their PR correct - it is either an MC-21 (in Cyrillic) or an MS-21 (in Latin/English).

They have an English-language advert is the western press at the moment - calling it the 'MC-21' !!!

Even their website calls it the MC-21 - http://www.irkut.com/en/services/projects/

If they can't even get the designation right - how can they be taken seriously ???

Ken

Hyde
06-15-2009, 03:19 PM
Designation has nothing to do with their ability to build a good plane.

TheArmenian
06-15-2009, 03:41 PM
Keel laying of special purpose ship at Yantar (Kaliningrad).




На судостроительном заводе “Янтарь” в Калининграде 8 июля будет заложен корабль специального назначения для ВМФ России. Об этом корр.ИТАР-ТАСС сегодня в Калининграде сообщил генеральный директор ФГУП “Центральное морское конструкторское бюро “Алмаз” /ЦМКБ/ Александр Шляхтенко. Он не уточнил проект корабля, его характеристики, отметив лишь, что это “будет современный корабль специального назначения для военных моряков”.
По словам Шляхтенко, в ЦМКБ “Алмаз” разработаны и разрабатывается сейчас много новых проектов кораблей для ВМФ, пограничной службы, МЧС России”. В частности, гендиректор конструкторского бюро особо выделил проект новой модификации корвета, который является “кораблем будущего, кораблем 21-го века”.
Речь идет, отметил Шляхтенко о развитии проекта, по которому на “Северной верфи” построен корвет “Стерегущий”, входящий ныне в состав Балтийского флота. “Стерегущий” будет представлен на Международном военно- морском салоне в Санкт-Петербурге 24-28 июня. “Но наш новый фрегат - это абсолютно новая разработка по многим направлениям”, - подчеркнул гендиректор “Алмаза”.
Известно, что корабли проекта “Стерегущего” способны решать самый широкий спектр задач от поиска и уничтожения подводных лодок до нанесения ракетных ударов по боевым кораблям противника и огневой поддержки десанта.
Источник новости: ИТАР-ТАСС


Sounds like a spy-ship designed by ALMAZ. The article also talks about an improved version of the STEREGUSHY corvette.

-Julik- 4.GdKp
06-15-2009, 04:03 PM
The article also talks about an improved version of the STEREGUSHY corvette.

From the second one if i remember correctly.




New radio equipment presentation during an exercise.
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/0032108/

GazB
06-15-2009, 09:56 PM
I wish Irkut would get their PR correct - it is either an MC-21 (in Cyrillic) or an MS-21 (in Latin/English).

They have an English-language advert is the western press at the moment - calling it the 'MC-21' !!!

Even their website calls it the MC-21 - http://www.irkut.com/en/services/projects/

If they can't even get the designation right - how can they be taken seriously ???

Put it in perspective... it is nothing like the marketing and technical branches confusing metric and imperial measures leading to rockets blowing up when they shouldn't like one famous large and powerful western agency has done.
Whether the customer asks for MS or MC I doubt there will be a problem... they will get the same aircraft and likely call it something completely different in service.

evgenerous
06-16-2009, 04:07 AM
Atomic Icebreakers Vaygach and Taymyr and Su-27 p-)

(Russian knights in Dudinka city - capital of Taymyr Peninsula, Extreme North, near the Norilsk city)

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/0/4994530YMi.jpg

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/1/4994531ECp.jpg

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/6/4994546fvu.jpg

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/2/4994552eAe.jpg

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/3/4994553ioi.jpg

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/8/4994558Som.jpg

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/0/4994560UaF.jpg

http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/2/4994562wgY.jpg

Sevmorput (nuclear-powered merchant vessel)
http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/7/4994547mZY.jpg
http://b0.imgsrc.ru/t/tand/3/4994573jMw.jpg

More photos: http://imgsrc.ru/tand/a139971.html?

adr1an0
06-16-2009, 04:55 AM
so, what is now with the comparison of the 2 airplanes? SU 27 and MIrage 2000 ?where were it testes ? in brazil ?,,, soory its a few pages back, but i coudnt find a clear answer :|

dorinne wong
06-16-2009, 05:20 AM
nice picture

TheArmenian
06-16-2009, 07:37 AM
More good news for the Sukhoi SSJ.

Avialeasing firms up order for 24 jets.

This brings the total of firm orders to 122 aircraft plus the letter of intent from Malev for 30 SSJs (from yesterday).

http://www.*******.com/article/rbssIndustryMaterialsUtilitiesNews/idUSWEA693720090616

Serenity
06-16-2009, 07:37 AM
I found nice video about Russian Special Ops on youtube :P:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zcewT7520

mannelig
06-16-2009, 08:17 AM
I found nice video about Russian Special Ops on youtube :P:


O, really? :D
Look few pages back. That`s repost :)

gatkii810
06-16-2009, 10:54 AM
Yak-141 (on classification of NATO — Freestyle) — first and unique in the world of supersonic mnogocelevoy airplane of vertical flight and landing (SVVP), produced serially (development of supersonic SVVP F-35 is presently conducted in the USA). He is intended for the intercept of air aims and conduct of manoeuvre infighting, and also for inflictings blows on surface and surface aims. A destroyer can be exploited from the flight-landings grounds of the limited sizes and in ship terms. Flight is vertical or with short running approach, landing is vertical or with a short run. Exploitation is possible from the damaged air fields. In opinion of specialists, in the moment of creation Yak-141 is LED foreign developments on 15-20 years
:bash:
76584

76585

76586

76587

76588

zg18
06-16-2009, 12:04 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76588&d=1245163955

What a beautiful plane ,to bad it didn't enter the service....

sepheronx
06-16-2009, 12:07 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=76588&d=1245163955

What a beautiful plane ,to bad it didn't enter the service....

As long as prototypes exist (and the schematics), then development is not entirely lost. Just alternatives would have to be made. But the tech and development of the plane is old soviet style, that many things would have to probably be changed.

Kunal Biswas
06-16-2009, 01:39 PM
never mind !!

Kunal Biswas
06-16-2009, 02:36 PM
What type of IFV is this (Half BMP and half BRDM).. ??




http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww118/KunalBiswas/1-4.jpg?t=1245177108

-Julik- 4.GdKp
06-16-2009, 02:42 PM
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/day_events/army/0032123/

GDS
06-16-2009, 02:46 PM
Kunal Biswas,
«Object 019» armored personnel carrier.
1964
The car has appeared impractical because of low passableness and controllability.

Kunal Biswas
06-16-2009, 02:47 PM
«Object 019» armored personnel carrier.
1964
The car has appeared impractical because of low passableness and controllability.


Thanks for the info ......

Flankerman
06-16-2009, 03:18 PM
Yak-141 (on classification of NATO — Freestyle) — first and unique in the world of supersonic mnogocelevoy airplane of vertical flight and landing (SVVP),


Gatkii810,

I am a big fan of Russian aviation - but the Yak-141 was not the first supersonic VTOL aircraft - the French Mirage IIIV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_IIIV) was.

Much as it saddens me to say so, the French got there first !!

(We Brits would have been first - if the Labour government had not cancelled the Hawker P.1154 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_P.1154) in 1964.)

Ken

Max Power9999
06-16-2009, 04:24 PM
The director of Sukhoi said today that they are going to start with flight test of Pak Fa in "about 2 years".

shardana
06-16-2009, 05:02 PM
Gatkii810,

I am a big fan of Russian aviation - but the Yak-141 was not the first supersonic VTOL aircraft - the French Mirage IIIV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_IIIV) was.

Much as it saddens me to say so, the French got there first !!

(We Brits would have been first - if the Labour government had not cancelled the Hawker P.1154 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_P.1154) in 1964.)

Ken
Not the firt supersonic VTOL fighter but anyway anticipating JSF concept of 20 years, the MIRAGE VTOL was an hybrid without any hope of real useful usage.

ult
06-16-2009, 05:04 PM
The director of Sukhoi said today that they are going to start with flight test of Pak Fa in "about 2 years".

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4203661&postcount=61
mistranslation

Flankerman
06-16-2009, 05:53 PM
Not the firt supersonic VTOL fighter but anyway anticipating JSF concept of 20 years, the MIRAGE VTOL was an hybrid without any hope of real useful usage.

Nowhere did I say fighter.

It was the worlds first supersonic VTOL aircraft - an aircraft capable of taking off and landing vertically as well as having the ability to exceed Mach 1 in level flight.

I was merely pointing out that it beat the Yak-141 to that title by many years.

Ken

asch
06-16-2009, 07:57 PM
nice collection of "bandwidth exceeded" pics, man. p-)

BoevayaSistema
06-16-2009, 08:01 PM
Some submarine photos, please share if you have some hi-res,

Alfa
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8153/27066430.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27066430.jpg)
Papa
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4418/18935597.th.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18935597.jpg)
Typhoon
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1273/48576278.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=48576278.jpg)
Akula
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2852/56593429.th.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56593429.jpg)
Delta IV
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5946/67701483.th.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=67701483.jpg)

JohnnyWalker
06-16-2009, 08:45 PM
Vitaly has put up more photos on OMSK 2009. Amazing detail. Stuff you won't see unless you go to OMSK yourself.
http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/202

LEGEND
06-16-2009, 10:52 PM
srry don't have any info on that class of planes, my info was from Russia Business Consulting report on that segment of planes, also IIRC IL-96 only usable outside CIS with Rolls-Royce engines, because of noise restrictions, and we kinda don't produce compatible engines of those class, so it was easyer and faster way to fly on western planes than deeply invest in domestic production, who knows what will come of lately.

Il-96 uses Aviadvigatel PS-90 which is a high bypass turbofan and is usable outside of CIS countries. No version of Il-96 has rolls-royce, Il-96M is a development version with Pratt and Whitney engines and western avionics.
PS-90 is also used on the new and reingined Il-76s.

Russianlynxy
06-17-2009, 12:27 AM
I found nice video about Russian Special Ops on youtube :P:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zcewT7520

I happen to be the author of this video

p-)

JohnnyWalker
06-17-2009, 01:06 AM
I happen to be the author of this video

p-)

yes and I am Chuck Norris

TR1
06-17-2009, 01:45 AM
Vitaly has put up more photos on OMSK 2009. Amazing detail. Stuff you won't see unless you go to OMSK yourself.
http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/202
Wow, those engine photos are really quite nice. Thanks Johnny

spasibo Vitaly, photki lucshe checm vlubem zhurnele.

dzhaga-dzhaga
06-17-2009, 09:42 AM
Wow, those engine photos are really quite nice. Thanks Johnny

spasibo Vitaly, photki lucshe checm vlubem zhurnele.

You are welcome. I'm glad you liked them.

odogg
06-17-2009, 10:31 AM
Please more Pics of mi 28 if its possible, because turkish Military maybe order some of them, Thanks...

JohnnyWalker
06-17-2009, 10:36 AM
Please more Pics of mi 28 if its possible, because turkish Military maybe order some of them, Thanks...

Really? Turkey wants evil Russian helicopters why? Wouldn't it be better to buy Apache's or Cobras or something?
I'm sure Vitaly has some Mi-28 photos.
Is turkey getting a specific mod of the copter?
http://images.google.com/images?q=Mi-28&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US331&sa=N&um=1&imgsz=huge

JohnnyWalker
06-17-2009, 10:38 AM
ehhh nevermind http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4186974

odogg
06-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Thanks JohnnyWalker, Turkish gov, talks a log time to the US Gov for 8 to 12 Ah 1w but the us Gov say that the Marines need every one of them because the 2 wars, the apache is to expensive and we need to build a infrastucture for this new style gunships, therefore the mi s...

JohnnyWalker
06-17-2009, 11:12 AM
deleted for pleasure

Anton_ua
06-17-2009, 01:28 PM
The world championship among snipers (Hungary)

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5619/snip1506.jpg



From May, 22 till May, 26th 8-th World championship has been lead to Hungary among snipers of special divisions of army and police.

Category "POLICE"

Personal offset:


1. -ЦСО "A" СБ Ukraine;

2. -Norway;

3. -Bulgaria.


Command offset:


1. -ЦСО "A" СБ Ukraine;

2. -Bulgaria;

3. -Norway.


Category "MILITARY"


1. -Czech Republic;

2. -Russia, РССН УФСБ across Krasnodar territory;

3. -ЦСО "A" СБ Ukraine.


Command offset:


1. -Czech Republic;

2. -Russia, РССН УФСБ across Krasnodar territory;

3. -ЦСО "A" СБ Ukraine.

Congratulations for the second position! :D

http://bratishka.ru/index.php?id=662

blilov
06-17-2009, 03:00 PM
Hey, our special forces(the Bulgarian ones) are very high on that list!

SniperLane
06-17-2009, 03:43 PM
just about to saythe same :) where are you from blilov?

Petrusha
06-17-2009, 07:28 PM
yes and I am Chuck Norris

Sorry Chuck, its true.. he is.

And my youtube acc is slavapycb :)

Universals
06-17-2009, 09:59 PM
From RIANOVOSTI
Under government defense contracts, we have taken delivery of eight Su-27 Flanker fighters, 12 MiG-29 Fulcrum fighters, 12 antiradar missiles, one Soyuz space rocket carrier, two spacecraft, three strategic missiles, 21 surface-to-air missiles, 20 tanks, over 100 armored vehicles and some 2,000 trucks, mainly KamAZ and Urals," said Vladimir Popovkin, a deputy defense minister and head of arms procurements.
Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov said earlier this month that Russia's defense-related sectors increased production by 2.5% in the first quarter, year-on-year.
Ivanov, who oversees the defense industry as part of his Cabinet tasks, said that defense contracts in 2011-12 would be funded at the same level as in 2009, adding that by then Russia would be in a position to commence full-scale production of new weapons.
Some 1.3 trillion rubles ($41.7 billion) will be spent on arms production this year and a total of 4 trillion rubles ($128 billion) in the 2009-11 period

Universals
06-17-2009, 10:06 PM
I didnt know that Su-27 and MIG-29s are still being produced. I thought they are only upgrading older ones.

Vipidari
06-17-2009, 10:50 PM
I didnt know that Su-27 and MIG-29s are still being produced. I thought they are only upgrading older ones.

I am quite sure those ARE upgraded aircraft.

The Su-27SMs that are scheduled.

And the Algerian MiG-29SMTs :)

Universals
06-17-2009, 11:23 PM
I am quite sure those ARE upgraded aircraft.

The Su-27SMs that are scheduled.

And the Algerian MiG-29SMTs :)


Oh. thanks for clearing that up.

why is space crafts included in defense budget? isn't the Russian civilian space agency sperate from the Rocket forces?

void
06-17-2009, 11:26 PM
Oh. thanks for clearing that up.

why is space crafts included in defense budget? isn't the Russian civilian space agency sperate from the Rocket forces?

military satellites, reconnaisance/communications.

blilov
06-18-2009, 01:40 AM
just about to saythe same :) where are you from blilov?
Plovdiv, Bulgaria;)

beromir
06-18-2009, 01:59 AM
You never seen and heared that before:

http://savepic.ru/684196.jpg

It is one of more secrecy cpecial forces of russian VMF.
Batalion of naval diversants "Holuay" ("Холуай").
Unit of TOF (Pacific-ocean fleet).

piton_kaa
06-18-2009, 02:33 AM
You never seen and heared that before:
ORLY? :cantbeli:

beromir
06-18-2009, 02:36 AM
orly? :cantbeli:

Это для буржуинов :)

piton_kaa
06-18-2009, 02:40 AM
Aga, got it=)

Dark Avenger
06-18-2009, 04:54 AM
http://www.world.guns.ru/assault/as95-e.htm

beromir
06-18-2009, 06:17 AM
the first one is use for?[blade knife at end]:)

Modern sub-water automat, based on another automat APS.

GTX-Typhoon
06-18-2009, 11:02 AM
nice collection of "bandwidth exceeded" pics, man. p-)

should work now.

Page 1300 ;)

Fasatron
06-18-2009, 11:10 AM
traning of the Russian Army with the reformed structure

http://i005.radikal.ru/0906/5b/b83fdb505763.jpg

http://s61.radikal.ru/i173/0906/01/c9cbf48f49c8.jpg

http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/0906/31/554db6ffbdba.jpg

http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/0906/9a/95b01ec01a53.jpg

http://i015.radikal.ru/0906/f1/5cd1d44cc54f.jpg

http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/0906/04/ba2a0724df2d.jpg

http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/0906/18/7612a030066f.jpg

http://s53.radikal.ru/i142/0906/9c/77dfe6909fca.jpg

more photos here: http://search.rg.ru/gall/b994de58?1
and here: http://search.rg.ru/gall/ec8e1c73

more ihfos here: http://rg.ru/2009/06/16/reg-privolzhe/uchenia-anons.html

Fasatron
06-18-2009, 12:15 PM
new russian artillery vehicle, not new but modernisation of 2s1

http://i023.radikal.ru/0906/09/95f126d26024.jpg

more http://litnik.in.ua/content/view/476/99/

JohnnyWalker
06-18-2009, 01:01 PM
new russian artillery vehicle, not new but modernisation of 2s1

http://i023.radikal.ru/0906/09/95f126d26024.jpg

more http://litnik.in.ua/content/view/476/99/

sweet. they ave good pics there
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5165/14633851.th.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14633851.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1764/51996.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51996.jpg)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8513/indexphpa.th.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexphpa.jpg)
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2142/indexphpcxsacsda.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indexphpcxsacsda.jpg)

Mormaeglin
06-18-2009, 01:17 PM
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/2/6/18/mormaeglin/f_chimera1m_be8f814.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/)

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/2/6/18/mormaeglin/f_chimera2m_70de24b.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/)

http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/2/6/18/mormaeglin/f_chimera4m_da19a45.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/)

http://img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/2/6/18/mormaeglin/f_chimera5m_7a6a8ee.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/)

Химера "Himera" - Is one of newest Russian camouflage patterns (developed by private company, Modoks.) it is even more inspired by classic SS-Eichenlaubtarn than earlier "Partizan". Uniform is reversible with both spring-summer and autumn colorations.

Nuclear_Warrior
06-18-2009, 01:44 PM
Some photos that I found earlier today, I hope they are not reposts!
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7633/osnaz20vityaz20sniper.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8422/spetsnaz20operators204.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4589/spetsnaz20operators205.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6349/omsn20operators202.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6251/sniper20taking20positio.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6255/osnaz20vityaz20operator.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3641/organised20crime20depar.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4363/organised20crime20depare.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7311/nalchik20sieges20interi.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9896/mvd20sobr20operators.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3117/fsin20operator.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2491/fsin20krechet20operator.jpg

Vipidari
06-18-2009, 02:01 PM
Does anyone remember the information / article and/or Izdeliye names of the next-gen Russian A2A weapons?

The numbers seem to have been mentioned / released for the R-73M / R-77 replacements.

Karpov360
06-18-2009, 02:09 PM
T-62? and T-64

Over G
06-18-2009, 02:10 PM
Excuse my ignorance, i find a bit funny that "batman" seal :D...what is that?

Nuclear_Warrior
06-18-2009, 02:12 PM
Excuse my ignorance, i find a bit funny that "batman" seal :D...what is that?

That's the symbol of GRU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRU

I doubt those pics has anything to do with GRU though.

calimero2
06-18-2009, 02:26 PM
T-62? and T-64

T-55: note the fume extractor at the very end of the barrel, and the oval port on the left side of the main gun.

IcyHot
06-18-2009, 04:49 PM
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/2/6/18/mormaeglin/f_chimera1m_be8f814.jpg

What will be the next introduced equipment in Russian army :cantbeli:
http://www.collect-militaria.com/user_images/7890175.jpg

K-5
06-18-2009, 04:58 PM
What will be the next introduced equipment in Russian army :cantbeli:
http://www.collect-militaria.com/user_images/7890175.jpg
Interesting conclusion on your part. What is the connection between Kaiser German helmet and the Chimera layout or are we still sticking to the story of SS camo ripoff?

dzhaga-dzhaga
06-18-2009, 05:00 PM
What will be the next introduced equipment in Russian army :cantbeli:


this is commercial shyet. they can produce everything they want

Leo1
06-18-2009, 10:53 PM
What other "improvements" have they made to the modernized 2S1, apart from replacing the 122mm cannon with the 120mm 2A80 from the 2S31 Vena?

(I don't like it, reduces the range)

Is it entering service?

Revive
06-19-2009, 12:19 AM
Il-96 uses Aviadvigatel PS-90 which is a high bypass turbofan and is usable outside of CIS countries. No version of Il-96 has rolls-royce, Il-96M is a development version with Pratt and Whitney engines and western avionics.
PS-90 is also used on the new and reingined Il-76s.
i think he mixed it up with Tu-204
by the way, PS-90 is up to standard and the noise thing is nothing to do with high bypass, since today's turbofan engines are all high bypass design...

BoevayaSistema
06-19-2009, 12:27 AM
New video from 2006 maneuvers.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2657/kspn009.jpg
http://pilot.strizhi.info/ (http://www.aviapedia.com/videos/blogs/pilot/smotr/kspn.wmv)
http://**********.com/files/246153703/kspn.wmv.html

calimero2
06-19-2009, 01:37 AM
What other "improvements" have they made to the modernized 2S1, apart from replacing the 122mm cannon with the 120mm 2A80 from the 2S31 Vena?


1. Higher rate of fire;
2. Wider range of available ammunition;
3. Automated fire control and navigation systems;
4. Shorter minimum range;
5. Reduced combat readiness time.

GazB
06-19-2009, 03:04 AM
As long as prototypes exist (and the schematics), then development is not entirely lost. Just alternatives would have to be made. But the tech and development of the plane is old soviet style, that many things would have to probably be changed.

I remember an older book about it... in the early 1990s I think that had a line drawing of the Yak-43 which was a proposed version with a 20-25 ton thrust main engine that was much larger and had a body of the same basic layout of the Yak-141 but with angled sides rather than slab sides that looked rather stealthy.
Looked very interesting, but there was no money and no international investment in the program.


What type of IFV is this (Half BMP and half BRDM).. ??

It was a test vehicle that lost the competition to become the BMP-1. There were 4 competitors that were a mix of wheels, wheels and tracks and tracks only. All had same turret with same armament I believe.


I am a big fan of Russian aviation - but the Yak-141 was not the first supersonic VTOL aircraft - the French Mirage IIIV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_IIIV) was.

Much as it saddens me to say so, the French got there first !!

This is true, but the French plane was a modified existing aircraft with lift jets... a bit like the fixed wing competitor to the swing wing Mig-23 rather than a viable aircraft on its own.


Some kind of BUK-M1 version me thinks.

BUK-M1 with a TOR turret...

Would make sense to use the same chassis for the short and medium range Army SAMs.


Modern sub-water automat, based on another automat APS.

Solves the problem that while the special ammo is very effective underwater, above water it has a much shorter effective range than any other assault rifle calibre round. The ASM-DT combines long bullets for use underwater or into water or out from water at air, with standard 5.45mm rounds for above air use only. Best of both worlds. Can kill enemy divers and enemy trained dolphins or dangerous underwater marine life like sharks and even jellyfish and squid/octapus etc, and also use as an assault rifle when you get above water.
One omission from that website is anti tank rifles from WWII. They have a section for heavy calibre sniper rifles but it doesn't include WWII anti tank rifles. There isn't a section for them in the bolt action and semi auto rifle section either. No PTRS-41 or PTRD-41. :(


Does anyone remember the information / article and/or Izdeliye names of the next-gen Russian A2A weapons?

The numbers seem to have been mentioned / released for the R-73M / R-77 replacements.

AFAIK the suggested long, medium, and short range missiles are to be initially: R-33E, R-77/R-27ER, R-73M2. For the next gen they are to be the R-37M, R-77M, and R-74.

piton_kaa
06-19-2009, 08:40 AM
Coz Funny military pics is still closed, i'll post it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2MEN-C31U&feature=player_embedded

edi213009
06-19-2009, 09:16 AM
Taken from another forum.Credit goes to the inside man "RSM55".
Yury Dolgoryky on sea trials.Pretty streamlined as smone pointed out:)

Vipidari
06-19-2009, 09:41 AM
or the next gen they are to be the R-37M, R-77M, and R-74.

There is a development of the R-77 and R-73/4 in the works AFAIK.

It was revealed with Izdeliye names only.

Vipidari
06-19-2009, 10:18 AM
Expanded pic.

Nice boat :)

Bulava test in July. . .

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7505/p1000211dxb.jpg

zg18
06-19-2009, 11:34 AM
Taken from another forum.Credit goes to the inside man "RSM55".
Yury Dolgoryky on sea trials.Pretty streamlined as smone pointed out:)


Nice find!!

TheArmenian
06-19-2009, 11:55 AM
Taken from another forum.Credit goes to the inside man "RSM55".
Yury Dolgoryky on sea trials.Pretty streamlined as smone pointed out:)

Dear poster of the photos of Y. Dolgoruky,

Thanks for the photo.
I hope your time in a Siberian jail will not be too unpleasant.

:)

Cyborn
06-19-2009, 12:07 PM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5266/p1000200k.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8765/p1000208.jpg
http://forums.airbase.ru/2009/06/t67634,5--~YUrij-Dolgorukij~-vykhodit-na-khodovye.6275.html

XRR496
06-19-2009, 12:22 PM
http://ru.fishki.net/picsw/062009/16/anek/1.jpg

XRR496
06-19-2009, 01:40 PM
Proton-M (Protostar-2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vupKHNPw2M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfrjGgBvDL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJCxRqGw1xM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKxkmfj58M

XRR496
06-19-2009, 01:41 PM
Proton-M (Glonas-M)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Hgkai8psI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wc18fMv4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9WH879nqHA

riverman83
06-19-2009, 04:33 PM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5266/p1000200k.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8765/p1000208.jpg
http://forums.airbase.ru/2009/06/t67634,5--~YUrij-Dolgorukij~-vykhodit-na-khodovye.6275.html

Very nice, have been waiting for more pic of the Borei :)

xav
06-19-2009, 05:09 PM
Some Russian gear in here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159448

(paris air show)
Can you please ID the picture of the MFD and translate the text?

NicNZ
06-19-2009, 05:26 PM
Can kill...dangerous underwater marine life like sharks and even jellyfish and squid/octapus etc
Come on now Gaz, really? What use is a rifle against jellyfish and octopus?

piton_kaa
06-19-2009, 05:40 PM
Come on now Gaz, really? What use is a rifle against jellyfish and octopus?
especially against attacking maco or great white :cantbeli:

sepheronx
06-19-2009, 05:41 PM
Some Russian gear in here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159448

(paris air show)
Can you please ID the picture of the MFD and translate the text?

No Russian UAV section? Phooy....

XRR496
06-19-2009, 06:20 PM
SS-18 "Satan" (sat.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knoa7oBdZkA

"Souz"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z3vJ1JrtPU

Proton-m (night)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMFI29PFBSE

+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm0JIF4V4hw

JohnnyWalker
06-19-2009, 07:43 PM
Expanded pic.

Nice boat :)

Bulava test in July. . .

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7505/p1000211dxb.jpg

ARG... drooool

Beauty

BoevayaSistema
06-19-2009, 08:15 PM
Expanded pic.

Nice boat :)

Bulava test in July. . .

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7505/p1000211dxb.jpg

I could tell it's a good sub. She looks so f*** mean!

Red_Rage
06-19-2009, 08:23 PM
I could tell it's a good sub. She looks so f*** mean!



Meh, still peanuts compared to two Typhoons rusting away at dock. No swimming pool inside either p-)

hittite
06-19-2009, 10:01 PM
anyone help me ID the truck and gun(2b16?) of this pic

Kupr
06-20-2009, 01:45 AM
How USSR won WWII

http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137846212.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137846213.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137855099.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137855140.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137855148.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137855157.jpg

More photos here:

http://toyster.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=1277

GazB
06-20-2009, 02:01 AM
1. Higher rate of fire;
2. Wider range of available ammunition;
3. Automated fire control and navigation systems;
4. Shorter minimum range;
5. Reduced combat readiness time.

Add to that more efficient trajectory in that the steeper plunging fire of a mortar results in better fragmentation patterns than a round detonating at an angle closer to horizontal.
The British got rid of their Abbots a while back, perhaps the Russians have decided to get rid of their 122mm guns in the self propelled versions. 120mm mortars on the other hand are still very useful.
152mm rounds are rather more effective than 122mm rounds against modern targets.


There is a development of the R-77 and R-73/4 in the works AFAIK.

It was revealed with Izdeliye names only.

There was a mockup of the R-74 on a pylon... will try to find it.


Come on now Gaz, really? What use is a rifle against jellyfish and octopus?

A full auto burst with a steel bar the size and shape of a knitting needle at 250m/s and of course a large amount of gas bubbles would scare away most underwater creatures.
Against something more solid like a shark such projectiles would make a real mess.

Here are those images. The first shows a mockup of the R-74 and the other shows the line drawings of the missiles with the Izdeliye numbers in brackets afterwards:

http://img14.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=302d.jpg

The line drawings are the work of Piotr Butowski and are of the "PAK-FA" missiles. I can't remember where I got it from but he did the drawings.
The photo I think came from the same source but am not sure.

calimero2
06-20-2009, 02:38 AM
anyone help me ID the truck and gun(2b16?) of this pic

GAZ-3308 "Sadko" and 2B16 "Nona-K" during the May parade in St Petersburg.

Vipidari
06-20-2009, 06:09 AM
Here are those images. The first shows a mockup of the R-74 and the other shows the line drawings of the missiles with the Izdeliye numbers in brackets afterwards:

http://img14.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=302d.jpg

The line drawings are the work of Piotr Butowski and are of the "PAK-FA" missiles. I can't remember where I got it from but he did the drawings.
The photo I think came from the same source but am not sure.

So is there no replacement for the R-77 series?

Like the Izdeliye 300 for the R-73/74 missiles?

German Army
06-20-2009, 07:38 AM
Hear some photos of Su-24. I like the plane woot

This photo was on a german news paper.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,108311,00.jpg

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/spy/su24mr/su24mr-4.jpg
http://www.worldwide-military.com/Military%20Aircraft/Russian%20Fighters%20plaatjes/Groot/Su-24.JPG

XRR496
06-20-2009, 10:07 AM
Kupr :D

http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137855146.jpg
http://photofile.ru/photo/semer1980/135153109/xlarge/137855160.jpg

German Army
06-20-2009, 10:34 AM
Hear some photos from BMP-T
I had a question: What`s the caliber of the guns, 30mm ?

http://www.rusarmy.com/photo/bron0/tnk_bmpt/tnk_bmpt%20001.jpg
http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/503/bmpt.jpg

smile
06-20-2009, 10:40 AM
Yeah, the calibre is 30mm. BMP-T use the standart 2A42 automatic cannon.

mannelig
06-20-2009, 10:53 AM
Thanks for the answer.
Smile you german ?

What`s the name of this BMP-2 version, or is this anyhow a russian BMP ?
I like this version it looks like future :)


BMP-2 with Berezhok turret.

smile
06-20-2009, 10:54 AM
This is a Bmp2 with new turent. Just modernisation, name is Berezhok. Search for Youtube viedos, just few pages before.

Live in Germany, but like chezky beer more.

calimero2
06-20-2009, 11:21 AM
Hear some photos from BMP-T


Sorry for being a nitpick but there is no such thing as a BMP-T. That would mean "ICV-heavy" whereas this vehicle is a tank support combat vehicle = BMPT.

xav
06-20-2009, 11:58 AM
Some Russian gear in here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159448

(paris air show)
Can you please ID the picture of the MFD and translate the text?

Mr.Woland
06-20-2009, 12:34 PM
Some Russian gear in here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=159448
(paris air show)
Can you please ID the picture of the MFD and translate the text?
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4211992&postcount=39

xav
06-20-2009, 01:03 PM
Thanks Mr.Woland

So this is not necessarilly for a military aircraft?

Mr.Woland
06-20-2009, 01:09 PM
Thanks Mr.Woland
So this is not necessarilly for a military aircraft?
Xav, a lot of data on this MFD has special meaning, only pilot/constructor-understandable.
PS.
I'm not specialist in avionics and planes.

daduda
06-20-2009, 01:42 PM
http://i010.radikal.ru/0906/a7/7ba9bcd159e8.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/0906/72/578437044109.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s61.radikal.ru/i173/0906/c8/f33cd2bc0e65.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

daduda
06-20-2009, 01:55 PM
http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/0906/90/a254d3fabe55.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s57.radikal.ru/i157/0906/6a/f4f9c38d4aa0.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s50.radikal.ru/i128/0906/14/97c9a1f2ffbb.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s57.radikal.ru/i157/0906/4a/55dfce24b74b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s47.radikal.ru/i117/0906/45/7e976a348fec.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/0906/e8/4348f550cdda.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

daduda
06-20-2009, 01:57 PM
http://i079.radikal.ru/0906/7c/97ca3d74f6ea.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

JohnnyWalker
06-20-2009, 02:07 PM
22 April 2007 Veterans of Afghanistan and Chechnya, Sverdlovsk OMON officers conducted a traditional event, observed the Orthodox Church - Myrrh-Bearer Women's Day. " The convoy of cars and two armored personnel carriers passed through the streets of Yekaterinburg, handing out counter-townswoman flowers and greeting cards. The evening was a concert singer Vicki Tsiganova, organized by JSC "Taganskiy Several." See more photos

22 апреля 2007 года Ветераны Афганистана и Чечни, сотрудники Свердловского ОМОН провели традиционное мероприятие, отмечаемое Православной Церковью - "День Жен Мироносиц". Колонна автомобилей и двух БТР проехала по улицам Екатеринбурга, раздавая встречным горожанкам цветы и поздравительные открытки. Вечером состоялся концерт певицы Вики Цыгановой, организованный ЗАО "Таганский Ряд". смотреть фото далее

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2614/15february.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15february.jpg)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5492/18615995.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18615995.jpg)
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8692/43598219.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=43598219.jpg)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8692/33624260.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33624260.jpg)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3250/76832679.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=76832679.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8195/81243389.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=81243389.jpg)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7028/54384617.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=54384617.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7130/88635768.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=88635768.jpg)

evgenerous
06-20-2009, 02:56 PM
Graduates of higher educational institutions of the Ministry of Defence.
http://www.1tv.ru/newsvideo/146057

Kunal Biswas
06-20-2009, 03:55 PM
Hear some photos from BMP-T
I had a question: What`s the caliber of the guns, 30mm ?

http://www.rusarmy.com/photo/bron0/tnk_bmpt/tnk_bmpt%20001.jpg
http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/503/bmpt.jpg

1. Does Anyone have specification of this BMP-T ??
2. Is its turret really stable while firing twin 30mm ??

evgenerous
06-20-2009, 04:21 PM
"The World's Best Karlson" on the roof.
http://b1.imgsrc.ru/s/shell114/9/13542639xQS.jpg

http://b1.imgsrc.ru/s/shell114/3/13542643FZF.jpg
http://b1.imgsrc.ru/s/shell114/1/13542651EPl.jpg
http://b1.imgsrc.ru/s/shell114/1/13542641xWA.jpg
http://b1.imgsrc.ru/s/shell114/6/13542646kyr.jpg
http://b1.imgsrc.ru/s/shell114/8/13542648iYM.jpg
Victory parade repetition.
all photos http://imgsrc.ru/shell114/13542639.html?#pic

GTX-Typhoon
06-20-2009, 06:45 PM
1. Does Anyone have specification of this BMP-T ??
2. Is its turret really stable while firing twin 30mm ??

1: Wikipedia it for detailed info but these are the basic specs:

T-72 Chassis.
two 30mm autocannons. prolly 2A42.
two AGS-17 Grenade launchers.
four ATGM's.
And some machineguns.
A crew of 5 to man it all.

2: From the footage i saw about it when it was firing it looked pretty stable for me.

And besides, the chassis is able to absorb the recoil of the 125mm cannon pretty easily so the autocannons are cake in that aspect.

Lesa
06-20-2009, 08:41 PM
Hello!
It is very nice to see such interest to Russian Army. I am from Russia, I am wife of Russian officer, and myself ex-officer.

On 27 of May there was an exam for getting the right to wear the Red Beret for Russian Special Forces.
http://i063.radikal.ru/0906/69/54054b0fa68d.jpg
http://i012.radikal.ru/0906/d9/cb13434d9a43.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/0906/b9/f47bf4c26317.jpg
http://i075.radikal.ru/0906/7a/ab23fd6a0408.jpg
http://i080.radikal.ru/0906/18/613c2c24dc7b.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/0906/8b/ef1218477034.jpg

Lesa
06-20-2009, 08:50 PM
The given examination includes a march-throw on 12 kilometres on a cross-country terrain with full regimentals in gross weight of 30-50 kg, demonstration of skills of high-rise preparation, then Hand-to-hand fight with that who has already the right of carrying of a Red beret and then applicants among themselves. This time from 222 people examination have successfully passed only 12 persons.

http://i026.radikal.ru/0906/83/2c9fb9f926e6.jpg
http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/0906/1d/9eab50a8cbfc.jpg
http://i054.radikal.ru/0906/65/62cd299fc409.jpg
http://i055.radikal.ru/0906/e1/ffb1bc7988f7.jpg
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/0906/98/188c895f3108.jpg
http://i075.radikal.ru/0906/74/0601d142e3da.jpg
http://i068.radikal.ru/0906/0f/dec0c7f2ffc7.jpg

RomanS
06-20-2009, 08:50 PM
Lesa, welcome!
Finally , im so happy to see you here .

Guys say hello to her. Her husband is serving with Russia's elite. You've seen many of his photos I posted.

Welcome Lesa!!!! Glad to have you here

Lesa
06-20-2009, 08:56 PM
Even if the fighter has sustained a march-throw and has reached hand-to-hand fight, but its weapon has not shot (probably, has jammed), he is considered not passed examination and he is not supposed to the fight. Many of solders try to pass this examination for several times.

http://i001.radikal.ru/0906/40/e86fecb639f8.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/0906/8f/85ffeadfe01b.jpg
http://i016.radikal.ru/0906/89/21d3928fbcb4.jpg
http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/0906/1d/3f92ec36a6d6.jpg
http://i037.radikal.ru/0906/10/62c6a4e917a3.jpg
http://i003.radikal.ru/0906/d7/1f13d4159879.jpg
http://s39.radikal.ru/i083/0906/ac/07d2c57050d1.jpg

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:00 PM
Hello, RomanS! A hope you will understand my English. I'll try to answer some of your questions.

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:05 PM
Some more photoes.
http://s61.radikal.ru/i174/0906/63/b121eca37334.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/0906/7f/134f8428775b.jpg
http://s39.radikal.ru/i086/0906/b1/9f71639274c3.jpg
http://s61.radikal.ru/i174/0906/f3/a3d36982f711.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i088/0906/48/166c76484eb6.jpg
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/0906/11/cc2ebd498b07.jpg
http://s48.radikal.ru/i119/0906/bd/5d9be20ce870.jpg
http://s53.radikal.ru/i141/0906/37/6077a9d20195.jpg
http://i050.radikal.ru/0906/40/714e4be22599.jpg

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:08 PM
http://s61.radikal.ru/i172/0906/9e/3b28bbf6d4c4.jpg
http://s50.radikal.ru/i128/0906/44/a32f3ed94845.jpg
http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/0906/9b/8db5b971b8b3.jpg
http://s51.radikal.ru/i133/0906/b5/6a215931cf49.jpg
http://s39.radikal.ru/i083/0906/c6/bfd7c9463f23.jpg
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/0906/9f/60331aa29fe7.jpg
http://i070.radikal.ru/0906/e3/e29a40cb00ca.jpg

Majestu$
06-20-2009, 09:09 PM
Lesa, welcome!
Finally , im so happy to see you here .

Guys say hello to her. Her husband is serving with Russia's elite. You've seen many of his photos I posted.

Welcome Lesa!!!! Glad to have you here

I think i speak for the majority when i say Welcome to the forum!

What should we think of when you say Russia's Elite?;)
A name would not harm the world now would it mate?

/Majestu$

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:12 PM
http://i080.radikal.ru/0906/a6/8c2af420eb99.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/0906/a1/9f78ef8dd5e4.jpg
http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/0906/a3/84bd791771cd.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i150/0906/dd/8b4b52ac79c3.jpg
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/0906/7a/b0b45b0bb30d.jpg
http://i018.radikal.ru/0906/8d/da912c97dc1f.jpg
http://s52.radikal.ru/i138/0906/9d/fc9806cb2411.jpg
http://s50.radikal.ru/i128/0906/27/15f88425cb12.jpg

RomanS
06-20-2009, 09:14 PM
I think i speak for the majority when i say Welcome to the forum!

What should we think of when you say Russia's Elite?;)
A name would not harm the world now would it mate?

/Majestu$

Look at her photos. hint :)

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:14 PM
http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/0906/33/87d1949c3919.jpg
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/0906/00/b0969c515f31.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i150/0906/98/2a70df018b66.jpg
http://s50.radikal.ru/i130/0906/58/3b45385f63f1.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i147/0906/b7/a175d9c26870.jpg
http://i018.radikal.ru/0906/71/0af78e375711.jpg
http://s50.radikal.ru/i129/0906/4c/3e25896ed452.jpg

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:18 PM
http://s56.radikal.ru/i153/0906/b3/001e6e446b4d.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i108/0906/4a/10bd74429e35.jpg
http://i077.radikal.ru/0906/51/df391e2c1c92.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i150/0906/33/af3e072c9fc2.jpg
http://i012.radikal.ru/0906/a5/fd300f7cedb8.jpg
http://s49.radikal.ru/i124/0906/60/d88890f09810.jpg
http://i064.radikal.ru/0906/a3/ffa74a542138.jpg
http://s52.radikal.ru/i138/0906/5b/c02ce4fd2f11.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/0906/82/ba98744992da.jpg

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:23 PM
The Rewarding ceremony, The Delivery of Red berets.
http://s59.radikal.ru/i166/0906/84/f55db3ae96c8.jpg
http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/0906/da/94ad1ba0a150.jpg
http://i027.radikal.ru/0906/6d/664af04f3bf8.jpg
http://s41.radikal.ru/i092/0906/2c/687e14ce5c53.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i147/0906/9f/c5b810dff24f.jpg
http://s49.radikal.ru/i126/0906/8d/6063b98c2b4b.jpg
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Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:25 PM
http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/0906/c2/dabd7ef949b2.jpg
http://i081.radikal.ru/0906/f2/761c54b91d4f.jpg

technician
06-20-2009, 09:38 PM
wow, russia has nice army! grettings to all russian members

DIMMI
06-20-2009, 09:45 PM
Dear poster of the photos of Y. Dolgoruky,

Thanks for the photo.
I hope your time in a Siberian jail will not be too unpleasant.

:)


Wellcome!
Now we have green winter...)))

Lesa
06-20-2009, 09:50 PM
Oh, now in Moscow we have it too... :)

BoevayaSistema
06-20-2009, 11:21 PM
International naval exercises in France FRUKUS 2009

Udaloy
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BoevayaSistema
06-20-2009, 11:24 PM
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http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4076/img63241103n.jpg

GazB
06-21-2009, 12:22 AM
So is there no replacement for the R-77 series?

The R-77 has never really entered large scale Russian service yet. It has potential left that is as yet unexplored. The R-27 series with its short and long burn rocket motor options and the seeker head options were very flexible, with IR, SARH and passive radar homing heads also supported by the special SARH seeker model for use over water for the Su-33 and the active radar homing head models. The R-77 version could offer short and long burn rocket motors plus the ramjet long range option as well with IR, IIR, and ARH options. There is also the potential for the SARH version as a cheap option too of course for targets at long range and low level over water, and of course the passive radar homing models for targets with their radars operating.
A Russian interceptor could fire 4-5 missiles all guiding at the same target and all attacking based on different guidance principles. This would give a much higher kill probability, or allow attacks in a wider range of conditions than most other airforces have the option to do.
Of course that requires aircraft that can carry a lot of missiles.


I had a question: What`s the caliber of the guns, 30mm ?

They are the 2A42 30mm guns as used in the BMP-2 and Mi-28A/N and Ka-50/-52.

Vipidari
06-21-2009, 12:49 AM
The R-77 has never really entered large scale Russian service yet. It has potential left that is as yet unexplored. .

Potentially a good explanation.

What is Izdeliye 810 then? Seems like a massive missile the size of the K-37M variants.

Are you are sure your pylon mock up pic isn't the Ukrainian Izedeliye 611 btw?

Mousepad
06-21-2009, 01:58 AM
Welcome LESA, now we have MVD insider :)

LEGEND thanx for correcting me on IL-96, guess my IIRC was not C

GazB
06-21-2009, 02:01 AM
Are you are sure your pylon mock up pic isn't the Ukrainian Izedeliye 611 btw?

Actually now that you mention it that might be the Ukrainian model.
There was supposed to be an interim model from the in service R-73M2 with thrust vector achieved by pushing material into the engine exhaust to deflect the thrust to the final R-74 missile with a gimballed rocket exhaust that actually directs the thrust. The seeker also is supposed to go from two colour seeker in M2 to a staring array seeker in the R-74 as well. Piotr did an article on it a while back and I can't remember the dates, but the full R-74 is planned for service when the PAK-FA enters service or there abouts. Upgraded older model aircraft like the Mig-29SMT if it is in service, and the Mig-31BM and Su-27BM/SM are supposed to get the new missile capability too from what I have read. This is a bit of a shift for the Russians/Soviets where missiles have been designed for roles and aircraft designed for the roles used the role specific missile. I guess the R-27/R-73 combination changed that though the R-60 and R-33 and R-40 for the Mig-31 did seperate missiles into roles with different missiles for different aircraft the Mig-31M with R-77 sort of blurred that. If they do do to the R-77 what they did to the R-27 it should be interesting. Three motor options and over half a dozen seeker head options would be quite interesting. When the target is stealthy to radar then there is a good reason to have a BVR missile that can carry an IIR seeker if you can find some way of detecting stealth aircraft at long range. Having a low frequency radar antenna in the entire leading edge of the wing of a fighter should allow it to perform that role.

BoevayaSistema
06-21-2009, 02:53 AM
Russia should get 2T Stalker with more powerful gun.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5754/72440171.jpg
http://www.minotor-service.com/en/2t-stalker-combat-vehicle-reconnaissance.html

K-5
06-21-2009, 03:19 AM
Russia should get 2T Stalker with more powerful gun.
http://www.minotor-service.com/en/2t-stalker-combat-vehicle-reconnaissance.html
What for? It's got same ole 2A42 and is a foreign built vehicle. There is just as capable BMR-3 ready to be produced since 1990. Meanwhile work continues on 57mm cannon armed BMP-3/4, so, no, they should continue to invest in their own industry.

Kunal Biswas
06-21-2009, 03:42 AM
1: Wikipedia it for detailed info but these are the basic specs:

T-72 Chassis.
two 30mm autocannons. prolly 2A42.
two AGS-17 Grenade launchers.
four ATGM's.
And some machineguns.
A crew of 5 to man it all.

2: From the footage i saw about it when it was firing it looked pretty stable for me.

And besides, the chassis is able to absorb the recoil of the 125mm cannon pretty easily so the autocannons are cake in that aspect.


Thanks for the info ......

BoevayaSistema
06-21-2009, 03:53 AM
What for? It's got same ole 2A42 and is a foreign built vehicle. There is just as capable BMR-3 ready to be produced since 1990. Meanwhile work continues on 57mm cannon armed BMP-3/4, so, no, they should continue to invest in their own industry.

I see it as a BMP-2 replacement with Bahcha-u turret.
It's basically an upgraded BMP-2 that looks way f*** cool as my wallpaper prooves, after all this is a photo thread.

ayanami_tard
06-21-2009, 04:16 AM
...152mm rounds are rather more effective than 122mm rounds against modern targets.



i think comparing 152mm round with 122mm round doesn't quite right
122mm round is equivalent to western 105mm round

correct me if i'm wrong

XRR496
06-21-2009, 05:03 AM
Ensemble "Moskvichka"

http://www.moskvichki.narod.ru/photo/181.jpghttp://www.moskvichki.narod.ru/photo/194.jpg

http://www.moskvichki.narod.ru/photo/
http://www.majorettes.ru/photos.html#null (more)

AlexMartin2
06-21-2009, 05:16 AM
i think comparing 152mm round with 122mm round doesn't quite right
122mm round is equivalent to western 105mm round

correct me if i'm wrong

Well, if we compare different rounds, we must choose several important parameters for compare, for example kinetic energy, or mass of warhead or number of fragments after explosion, etc.

Usually greater caliber can have more warhead mass and more fragments, while kinetic energy could be bigger or lesser, usually bigger.

So IMHO 152 > 122 > 105.

-Julik- 4.GdKp
06-21-2009, 05:18 AM
http://zvezdanews.ru/video/0032291/?PHPSESSID=7f6bf633358f58b945a99374732a9ef3