[QUOTE=Master Chief;3776251]How about the victims ?
It's very unfair for the victims or the family of the victims. Should the CT Commando arrived sooner, they have could minimize the number of casualties. They could eliminate the terrorists much faster.
There were multiple targets, yes, but only three, not ten. And the number of Commando is g.....n 200 people !
This is the Indonesian CT Teams must learn ! And please no classic politician-type BS excuses; we do our best, we don't expect this attack, the terrorists are well prepared, there are multiple targets, bla...bla...bla...[/QUOTE]
Not politcal excuse, believe me, I am as far from being a politican as anyone can be. Just tactical reality, intel gathering, pre deployment, and the op itself, for an event such as that is almost unprecedented. People did get killed and most certainly more would have been dead without indian police/ military intervention.
12-19-2008
Kopassus
Beautiful pictures! Thanks! Which unit on the last two posts?
12-19-2008
Kopassus
[quote=nata4190;3776918]Not politcal excuse, believe me, I am as far from being a politican as anyone can be. Just tactical reality, intel gathering, pre deployment, and the op itself, for an event such as that is almost unprecedented. People did get killed and most certainly more would have been dead without indian police/ military intervention.[/quote]
Such an attack is really unpredictable without a good intelligencenetwork.
But the Indian police wasnt prepared at all, i also didnt expected such powerfull country with nuclear weapons acted so amaturistic and slowly.
The normal police was only armed with wooden sticks, the reinforcements with obsolete rifles, bulletproof vests and equipment.
Hopefully they learned from this, improve their weaponry and equipment, and will have trainings with GSG9 and special forces/CT units from neighbourcountries.
12-19-2008
ahmadmz
[quote=Kopassus;3777110]Beautiful pictures! Thanks! Which unit on the last two posts?[/quote]
From Badge in left shoulder and the weapons they use IMI Micro Galil (unit at the car) and Daewoo K7 (picture escort the VIP) its looks like Kostrad Tontaipur and Raider Unit
[quote]Thanks to Supplanter that post in Today's Pic! Friday, December 19, 2008
[IMG]http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8288/44422968id7.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Den 81 SatGultor Kopassus Use Hk MP5 With Rail System
12-19-2008
ahmadmz
Thanks to VAMAN
[QUOTE][IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/xfc29x.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/14mcap4.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE]Soldiers of Indonesian Special Forces Commandos (KOPASSUS) take part in a show of force ahead of a major anti-terror in Jakarta, Indonesia, Friday, Dec. 19, 2008. Thousands of personnel will be involved in the drill which will be held on Sunday ahead of Christmas holiday in the wake of Mumbai attacks. (AP / Irwin Fedriansyah)[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
12-20-2008
Kopassus
[quote=ahmadmz;3778488]From Badge in left shoulder and the weapons they use IMI Micro Galil (unit at the car) and Daewoo K7 (picture escort the VIP) its looks like Kostrad Tontaipur and Raider Unit
Den 81 SatGultor Kopassus Use Hk MP5 With Rail System[/quote]
Thanks all for the great pictures!
Our SF improve all the time...im really proud of it!
12-20-2008
fcaesarn
[quote=Kopassus;3778672]Thanks all for the great pictures!
Our SF improve all the time...im really proud of it![/quote]
Don't forget that we need a good national security intelligence capability to.. I hope BIN will always gather information related with terrorism plan.. It's better to prevent rather than to counter the terrorism act...
12-20-2008
aswp01
[quote=nata4190;3776918]Not politcal excuse, believe me, I am as far from being a politican as anyone can be. Just tactical reality, intel gathering, pre deployment, and the op itself, for an event such as that is almost unprecedented. People did get killed and most certainly more would have been dead without indian police/ military intervention.[/quote]
I agree.
Terrorists needs only to get it right just once and the result is terrible. Plus terrorists have the advantages of initiatives. Law enforcers (Police, military etc) do not have that luxury and it is extremely difficult for them to be right at all times.
12-20-2008
DavidDCM
Anyone still know JASGU 3? Found 2 more photos of it:
[IMG]http://www.abload.de/img/0012te7y.jpg[/IMG]
