TNI in Gallery (the New Photos)

[quote=Eokboy;2769419][quote=hawkeye88;2702493]
Sorry :x

But we needs moar palm oil.

MOAR!!

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If you fly from Singapore to KL during a clear weather & you see down through the window, you will see almost all of the peninsula are covered by palm plantation. No more forest.
Some of TDM (Tentera Diraja Malaysia) new toys are paid by palm oil...:)

[quote=Master Chief;2769572]Karbol, why you are saying the credit goes to Sandi Yudha ?[/quote]

couse i took this pics from another forum. the uploader nickname is sandi yudha..

[quote=samourai;2769374]this machigun exist just with retractable stock or it is possible to have fixed stock. can she used magazine ?[/quote]

As I have mentioned, the blue print comes from FN Minimi (pretty much same case as FN FNC & Pindad SS1). The standard FN Minimi doesn't come with fixed buttstock. If you have seen one, then it must be custom built or special order or maybe the FN M249 SAW. The standard FN Minimi has foldable stock, similar with FN FNC. The SM-3 (SM = Senapan Mesin = Machine Gun) buttstock looks like adopting the M249 Para or SPW.

SM-3 is currently has one fed system only: belt fed. Later it will be both belt & magazene.

[quote=karbol;2769617]couse i took this pics from another forum. the uploader nickname is sandi yudha..[/quote]

OK. I thought you got the picture from a "sandi-yudha" operation. Sandi = secret/covert. Yudha = war, operation. Sandi yudha = covert operation, secret war, black operation, etc.

Indonesian's Kopassus is used to be officialy called Kopassandha = Komando Pasukan Sandi Yudha.

[quote=Master Chief;2771410]As I have mentioned, the blue print comes from FN Minimi (pretty much same case as FN FNC & Pindad SS1). The standard FN Minimi doesn't come with fixed buttstock. If you have seen one, then it must be custom built or special order or maybe the FN M249 SAW. The standard FN Minimi has foldable stock, similar with FN FNC. The SM-3 (SM = Senapan Mesin = Machine Gun) buttstock looks like adopting the M249 Para or SPW.

SM-3 is currently has one fed system only: belt fed. Later it will be both belt & magazene.[/quote]

I think you have it wrong here. The standard version of Minimi has a fixed stock, skeletonized but fixed. Mk2 versions have also a fixed stock similar to the M-249SAW(after the PIP) But FN also offers a retractable stock, first used in the Para model of Minimi. And the FNC has both models with fixed and with [B]folding[/B] stock

Original FN Minimi:
[img]http://www.mod.go.jp/gsdf/mae/10d/photo/wepon/minimi/minimi.jpg[/img]
Metal buttstock, fixed

M249 SAW:
[img]http://www.ccfa.com/Pages/Images/NFA%20Firearms/FN%20Minimi/98Reduced20FN20MINIMI20IMAGE.jpg[/img]
Plastic buttstock, fixed

FN Minimi Para:
[img]http://www.bellum.nu/armoury/FNMinimi-para.jpg[/img]
Metal buttstock, retractible

[quote=flanker7;2771446]I think you have it wrong here. The standard version of Minimi has a fixed stock, skeletonized but fixed. Mk2 versions have also a fixed stock similar to the M-249SAW(after the PIP) But FN also offers a retractable stock, first used in the Para model of Minimi. And the FNC has both models with fixed and with [B]folding[/B] stock[/quote]

Sorry, you are right.
I had tried several FN Minimi belong to Indonesian Army (TNI AD). They said & I believe, all of their Minimi are the standard export one. They come with fixed skeleton steel stock.

[quote=DavidDCM;2771476]Original FN Minimi:
[IMG]http://www.mod.go.jp/gsdf/mae/10d/photo/wepon/minimi/minimi.jpg[/IMG]
Metal buttstock, fixed

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The original Minimi: (1) doesn't have barrel cover, (2) has a retractable rear sight. No ?

The barrel may be newer production(US) so it has a thermal cover.(the Mk2 doesn't have it I think).
About the rear sight, I haven't hear that before. Please explain

[quote=makavelli;2505221]KRI Surabaya 591 (under construction)
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I got these pictures from another forum. KRI Surabaya is sailing already.

[quote=flanker7;2773227]The barrel may be newer production(US) so it has a thermal cover.(the Mk2 doesn't have it I think).
About the rear sight, I haven't hear that before. Please explain[/quote]

Please see the attached picture of an original FN Minimi:
1. No barrel heat guard.
2. The rear sight is retractable. When not in use, you retract it down into a horizontal position & hidden.
3. The front sight is a leaf-type.

Maybe a very very early model of the Minimi which still retains some characteristics found in the prototypes as seen in this drawing here:
[URL]http://commi.narod.ru/asb/belg/minimi.jpg[/URL]

[quote=Master Chief;2773262]Please see the attached picture of an original FN Minimi:
1. No barrel heat guard.
2. The rear sight is retractable. When not in use, you retract it down into a horizontal position & hidden.
3. The front sight is a leaf-type.[/quote]

My intention was to show the different kinds of buttstocks. Therefore I didn't take a closer look at the rest of the rifle. So, in strict sense, of course it was wrong to call the first picture an "Original" Minimi. But as I said, that was not what I wanted to show. Thanks for clarification, nevertheless :)

[quote=karbol;2697626]KOPASKA, indonesia navy special force.

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Again, I can't see the pictures. Please re-upload. Thanks.

as u wish.. kopaska. sory, had a problem with photobucket...

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