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    Quote Originally Posted by gatomalo View Post
    Which countries are hostile to Mexico?
    Venezuela is becoming major concern in Latin America, but terrorism is still major concern to Mexico.

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    maybe mexico should be armed with sticks and stones that would probably please all the leftist in the goverment. That would give them more money to steal for themselves. When su 27 are flying over mexican skies will every one in the goverment will say we should have gotten some better planes.

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    That is a bit over the edge don´t you think? Left or right has nothing to do in this. It´s just the way things are.

    Think about this mate. The governaments that have done much damage to Armed forces have been moderate right as PRI wich are supposed to be nationalist and the worst made by right wing governament With Fox.
    I couldn´t tell if any left governament did any harm, cause so far there´s been none.

    So, leave politics a side, this is about Armed forces, not politics. If you are not happy with your countries policies, complain eith your congressman, or do your researches.

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    Armed Forces=Politics

    Politics=Armed forces

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    does anyone have a hi-res of this picture?...thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack View Post
    That is a bit over the edge don´t you think? Left or right has nothing to do in this. It´s just the way things are.

    Think about this mate. The governaments that have done much damage to Armed forces have been moderate right as PRI wich are supposed to be nationalist and the worst made by right wing governament With Fox.
    I couldn´t tell if any left governament did any harm, cause so far there´s been none.

    So, leave politics a side, this is about Armed forces, not politics. If you are not happy with your countries policies, complain eith your congressman, or do your researches.
    You're kind of hypocritical aren't you, mate? Apparently you are not as knowledgeable about politics as you are about crosswinds. What do you mean that the government that has done the worst damage to the armed forces has been that of President Fox and that the left is innocent of this (ya sabemos de que pata cogeas). It was under Fox that we saw the most open attitude of the military that we have ever seen, especially with the Ley de Transparencia y Acceso a la Información, which though it might not be perfect, it is the first of its kind in Mexico. When had a common citizen ever been able to obtain information about how much so and so in government (and the military) earned? When had we seen the military have such ambitious research programs? I'll answer, never.
    And about the left being so innocent, that's just plain b.s. mate. While it is true that the PRD (many of whose members including AMLO originated from PRI), has never had a president (thank God), they are by no means innocent of the current state of the country and the military. No party has had absolute control of the legislative branch since the federal elections of 1997. Since then the PRD (the main leftist party) has done nothing but been an obstacle for any attempts at reforms within the country. They prevented Fox from doing any major reforms (except for the Transparency Law), and currently they are opposed to any reform proposed by the government (many of which are sorely needed) and are even opposed to negotiating anything with Calderon (which is the reason we pay them for). It is ridiculous that the President has to negotiate with the left in order to give his state of the union address (informe). All parties for a long time have asked for the chance to question the president on the day of the informe, Calderon said yes, that he would be willing to debate with all parties on that day. Now the left says that it can't be done that day. As we say in the North, esas son chingaderas (that's a bunch of chingaderas). Don't come here saying that the left has done no harm to the military (and the country) when they have become the biggest obstacle for progress that Mexico currently has.
    P.S. And don't tell us that we can't mix politics with the military when they have always been so intricately entwined. Don't try to control what others wish to say cuatro patadas (wolpack), don't be so intolerant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panhard_Commander View Post
    does anyone have a hi-res of this picture?...thanks.
    Nice picture Dragunov. Are those NVG's of Russian manufacture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatomalo View Post
    Which countries are hostile to Mexico?
    Gatomalo:
    I'm not saying that Mexico is going to war now or in the near future, but if we were to try to imagine who could pose a threat to us eventually, I would have to say that it would be our northern neighbor (sadly). I pray that never happens. But no country in the world has invaded, attacked, or interfered with our sovereignty as much and as many times as our northern neighbor has, and also there is no other more warlike and aggressive country in the world currently (name one country in the hemisphere they haven't been involved in). When you add these historical facts to the present mentality that pervades much of their society and political discourse (there are politicians in the US like Tom Tancredo and others who are very racist and aggressive towards us), you would have to very much dread what would happen if any extremist (of the right) ever reached the presidency of the United States. At the least we would have a period of very, very cold relations. At the most, I wouldn't want to imagine.

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    wolfpack what is your damage do you hate the country so much that you defend the obstacle that keeps us from being as good as the rest of the developed world. What is the harm of mexico being on equal par with any cabron in the world. There are third world countrys that have better military hardware than mexico.

    Is that not embarassing to any one out there that our military in on equal par to chekozlovakia in the 1960 terms of technology and military power.

    How weak minded are the people in central mexico they have it to easy with us paying everything for them to enjoy that all they do is suck up all our tax money and not do a dang thing to improve the country.

    The left aka PRD are weak minded little girls that will run and coward under there desks when the lead starts flying.

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    Does any one have a list of all the military equipment in use in mexico right now aka armored veichles light artilerry that type of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix U. Gómez View Post
    Gatomalo:
    I'm not saying that Mexico is going to war now or in the near future, but if we were to try to imagine who could pose a threat to us eventually, I would have to say that it would be our northern neighbor (sadly). I pray that never happens. But no country in the world has invaded, attacked, or interfered with our sovereignty as much and as many times as our northern neighbor has, and also there is no other more warlike and aggressive country in the world currently (name one country in the hemisphere they haven't been involved in). When you add these historical facts to the present mentality that pervades much of their society and political discourse (there are politicians in the US like Tom Tancredo and others who are very racist and aggressive towards us), you would have to very much dread what would happen if any extremist (of the right) ever reached the presidency of the United States. At the least we would have a period of very, very cold relations. At the most, I wouldn't want to imagine.
    Sad but true. If we look at history we will see that the USA has always been an agressive nation towards us. Therefore naturally the US would be consider our natural enemy. Although a lot of people in Mexico don't share the same opinion. However in the USA lots of people do think we are their enemy and are willing to take us down in the the first opportunity they have.

    Check out this video: '' Mexico is not our friend''


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    News: The President of Brazil recently visited Mexico to propose an alliance with the South American economies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov View Post
    Sad but true. If we look at history we will see that the USA has always been an agressive nation towards us. Therefore naturally the US would be consider our natural enemy. Although a lot of people in Mexico don't share the same opinion. However in the USA lots of people do think we are their enemy and are willing to take us down in the the first opportunity they have.

    Check out this video: '' Mexico is not our friend''

    Guy's don't worry. This guy won't be elected as president. The main people in the Republican's are Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney and Democratic's are Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

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    Oaxaca, Oaxaca. Soldiers set up a perimeter around a shopping center where an explosion was registered presummably caused by the EPR guerrilla.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix U. Gómez View Post
    Gatomalo:
    I'm not saying that Mexico is going to war now or in the near future, but if we were to try to imagine who could pose a threat to us eventually, I would have to say that it would be our northern neighbor (sadly). I pray that never happens. But no country in the world has invaded, attacked, or interfered with our sovereignty as much and as many times as our northern neighbor has, and also there is no other more warlike and aggressive country in the world currently (name one country in the hemisphere they haven't been involved in). When you add these historical facts to the present mentality that pervades much of their society and political discourse (there are politicians in the US like Tom Tancredo and others who are very racist and aggressive towards us), you would have to very much dread what would happen if any extremist (of the right) ever reached the presidency of the United States. At the least we would have a period of very, very cold relations. At the most, I wouldn't want to imagine.

    Although I do not disagree with you that throughout our history Mexico's number one aggresor has been the US, you have to also admit that its number one ally has also been the US. The reality of things is that our two societies have become so interconnected that one can not really live without the other. Mexico enjoys the money that is sent to families back home by undocumented workers in the US and American business enjoys the fruits of cheap illegal labor. Without starting a totally different debate with you, this fact leads me to think that the US and Mexico going to war is about as likely as George Bush developing something resembling intelligence before his dictatorship is over!


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov View Post
    Sad but true. If we look at history we will see that the USA has always been an agressive nation towards us. Therefore naturally the US would be consider our natural enemy. Although a lot of people in Mexico don't share the same opinion. However in the USA lots of people do think we are their enemy and are willing to take us down in the the first opportunity they have.

    Check out this video: '' Mexico is not our friend''


    As for this...all I can say is that every society has its idiots. I mean look at Lopez Obrador for crying out loud!! The fact that CNN used a whole segment on a bounty hunter being extradited after he broke the laws of Mexico tells you alot about CNN. And the fact that Tom Tancredo is a Congressman for Colorado further proves that even the worlds best democracy can make mistakes. These people are extremist just like all of the people that they say they are trying to protect the US against. If Mexico and the US were really enemies then they, along with Canada, would not have signed the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in 2005. What you see these idiots doing is a bunch of saber rattling to get some press. Remeber, bad press is better than no press.

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