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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix U. Gómez View Post
    You see, Shadowstorm, Wolfpack thinks that because there is no immediate need for something, then we don't need to have it. What he fails to comprehend is that by the time that there is an immediate need to have a certain weapon system, it is usually already to late. That is why, so many countries around the world, even though they are at peace and face no immediate danger of being attacked or having to use their new and modern weapon systems, continuously are updating, developing or obtaining new armaments. What he doesn't understand also is that when you have an arsenal full of WWII half tracks, Korea and Vietnam era interceptors, other will perceive you as being weak, and might want to take advantage of you. That is why you hear some people (like Pinche Paul Tancredo (Tancretín), Lou Dobbs, etc) use highly inflammatory language against us that they wouldn't dare use if we were stronger.
    There is that old saying that holds a lot of truth, and that if you are a student of history, you will have only to agree with it:
    "Si quieres paz, preparate para la guerra."
    By investing a little bit more on equipment, our country might save itself a whole lot of pain in the future someday.
    yeah thats true i am with you 110 percent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack View Post
    SEDENA Has invested heavily trhough the years in it´s fleet of vehicles, it´s only the shell, inside they have new engenies, new mechanicals, improved sights and Night vision systems for the vehicles.
    The shell is precisely what makes a lot of modern armored vehicles up-to-date these days. New armor has been developed that can save a vehicle or the crews life. What good is having a vehicles with new engines, new sights, improved night vision, etc, when they could easily fall to the lowliest anti-armor weapon, like a cheap Vietnam era RPG-7?
    Maybe because the new engine will allow you to run away faster?

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    Mexican Eagle ( Golden Eagle) with Cadets from The Heroic Military Academy





    And this one is a Red tail Falcon, it symbolizes the young cadets.


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    Those are beautiful birds. The first two are golden eagles (aguila real), the third, I think is a hawk, maybe a Harris hawk (aguililla de harris).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov View Post
    Mexican Eagle ( Golden Eagle) with Cadets from The Heroic Military Academy





    And this one is a Red tail Falcon, it symbolizes the young cadets.


    Thats is too f***ing cool!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatomalo View Post
    Although I do not disagree with you that throughout our history Mexico's number one aggresor has been the US, you have to also admit that its number one ally has also been the US. The reality of things is that our two societies have become so interconnected that one can not really live without the other. Mexico enjoys the money that is sent to families back home by undocumented workers in the US and American business enjoys the fruits of cheap illegal labor. Without starting a totally different debate with you, this fact leads me to think that the US and Mexico going to war is about as likely as George Bush developing something resembling intelligence before his dictatorship is over!

    As for this...all I can say is that every society has its idiots. I mean look at Lopez Obrador for crying out loud!! The fact that CNN used a whole segment on a bounty hunter being extradited after he broke the laws of Mexico tells you alot about CNN. And the fact that Tom Tancredo is a Congressman for Colorado further proves that even the worlds best democracy can make mistakes. These people are extremist just like all of the people that they say they are trying to protect the US against. If Mexico and the US were really enemies then they, along with Canada, would not have signed the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in 2005. What you see these idiots doing is a bunch of saber rattling to get some press. Remeber, bad press is better than no press.
    I know, as do most Mexicans know, that the relationship between both Mexico and the US makes us practical Siamese twins. We are tied not only by thick blood ties, but our economies are so dependent on one another that if one catches a cold we both get it. However Gatomalo, most US citizens do not get this. Most US citizens have the impression that NAFTA has been bad for them (according to resent polls) and in reality it hasn't (the US never enters into accords with other countries where it will be at a disadvantage). Most US citizens think that only Mexico benefited from NAFTA when all that a Mexican has to do is go to the local Walmart, Sams, McDonald's, Burgerking, Office Depot, etc, etc, and look at the legions of US product which have invaded our country. There is great ignorance among them in regards to this and many aspects about our society. I once heard a US talk show host refer to Vicente Fox as Mexico's dictator. US airwaves are full of extreme right wing radical talk show hosts that spew virtual poison (99% of them lies) about Mexico almost on a daily basis (and then they have the "desfachates" to claim that they sympathize with poor Mexicans). The problem with this phenomenon is not one that should be ignored, because the Nazis used it to stir up sentiment among the German populace to then be able to carry out their plans for war and against the Jews. The Nazis understood that there was truth to the saying "a lie spoken a thousand times... becomes reality". If day after day, you repeat the same things about Mexico, and Mexicans, people, especially weak minded ones, will tend to believe what you say. So, no, I don't think that now is the time to be complacent and think that we have no enemies in the world.

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    A navy helo went down this morning. the good news is that no crew members are injured or dead.





    Cae helicóptero de la Marina en Sinaloa
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    Una turbina falló, pero no hubo heridos.

    México, DF. Un helicóptero de la Marina-Armada de México se accidentó en el helipuerto de Topolobampo, al ejecutar pruebas de potencia rutinaria para participar en la Operación Conjunta Sinaloa, sin que resultará lesionada la tripulación.

    En un breve comunicado, la Secretaría de Marina-Armada de México detalló que la aeronave MI-2, de la marca PZL Swindnik de fabricación Polaca se accidentó alrededor de las 09:40 horas antes de despegar y aún se desconoce las causas del accidente.

    Indicó que se procederá a las investigaciones pertinentes para conocer el fondo de la falla de la unidad biturbina, con tripulación de dos pilotos y máximo de cuatro pasajeros encargado de funciones de búsqueda, reconocimiento y transporte de personal.

    http://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas/2...ina-en-sinaloa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack View Post
    A navy helo went down this morning. the good news is that no crew members are injured or dead.





    Cae helicóptero de la Marina en Sinaloa
    Notimex / La Jornada On Line

    Una turbina falló, pero no hubo heridos.

    México, DF. Un helicóptero de la Marina-Armada de México se accidentó en el helipuerto de Topolobampo, al ejecutar pruebas de potencia rutinaria para participar en la Operación Conjunta Sinaloa, sin que resultará lesionada la tripulación.

    En un breve comunicado, la Secretaría de Marina-Armada de México detalló que la aeronave MI-2, de la marca PZL Swindnik de fabricación Polaca se accidentó alrededor de las 09:40 horas antes de despegar y aún se desconoce las causas del accidente.

    Indicó que se procederá a las investigaciones pertinentes para conocer el fondo de la falla de la unidad biturbina, con tripulación de dos pilotos y máximo de cuatro pasajeros encargado de funciones de búsqueda, reconocimiento y transporte de personal.

    http://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas/2...ina-en-sinaloa
    They only had one MI-2 right?

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    We mexicans have a weak army and navy its just a shell of what it can become. By far i believe that mexico has some of the best soldiers in the world. Mexican people are togher than many others. If we had modern equipment like in israel or germany our country would be a force to be reckoned with.

    If we are to have a true peace we must be well armed for peace to be maintained. Mexico needs to get rid of all that junk of old french veichles in the army and start a new with new armored veichles.

    There are resources in our country to do that. If pay in the military was real good and for cops as well there would be no real problem in corruption and defecting to the side of the narcos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    If we are to have a true peace we must be well armed for peace to be maintained. Mexico needs to get rid of all that junk of old french veichles in the army and start a new with new armored veichles.
    It was not too long ago, in my lifetime, when the Mexican Army still had horse calvary.

    What I see today is a quantum leap from 20 years ago.

    And be thankful that Mexico has not been at war since WW2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AztecMex View Post
    They only had one MI-2 right?
    Originally 2, but now it´s deppending on weather this can be recovered or not.


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    Great pics, Dragunov.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    If we are to have a true peace we must be well armed for peace to be maintained. Mexico needs to get rid of all that junk of old french veichles in the army and start a new with new armored veichles.
    The problem with that idea is that Mexico just plain doesn't need a large, advanced 21st-century force. There's no way Mexico could win a war against the US and I don't see the dreaded Panzer Legions of Guatemala striking North. Mexico's biggest military problems are corruption and internal security, both of which are rather immune to expensive weapons.

    There are resources in our country to do that. If pay in the military was real good and for cops as well there would be no real problem in corruption and defecting to the side of the narcos.
    The Mexican narcotics problem will take a large step towards a solution once the narcos stop getting their funding from the US. As a Mexican president once said, 'Pity poor Mexico. So far from God, so close to the United States'.

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    there is no threat now but we cannot ever be to certain what twenty years will be like.

    i am not saying mexico should buy thousands of tanks like the US but a 100 so modern tanks cannot hurt the country by having them. Only a few diivsions armed with veichles like these would make any one think twice about messing with us and our neighbors up north.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogUSq3vSLQE

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    why does every one seem so against mexico being modern in every term. Is there like some conspiracy in the world to keep mexico down a peg from the rest of the world is it just me.


    I am proud to be mexican and had served in a true modern military to bad it was not the one from my home land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasori View Post
    there is no threat now but we cannot ever be to certain what twenty years will be like.
    The Mexican response to a any conventional threat is simple: the US will have to deal with it. There's no way we can allow the Southern border to become an open war zone and this forms Mexico's most potent deterrent. The second most powerful deterrent (albeit a back-handed one) is Mexico itself. Any would-be conquerer would have to deal with Mexico's problems itself.

    Mexico's leaders are going to have to spend their time dealing with the problems they have right now. A good start would be to tell their northern neighbors to actually start dealing with the ineffective drug laws that do little more than fund the narcos.

    Thanks for the video link, BTW.

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