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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov View Post
    Good NEWS :

    Many of us thought that the only day where we could know for a fact if the FX-05 rifle was going to continue in production was at the Military Parade day. And yes, a soldier who visits the MAF forum has confirmed us that the 2nd brigade(special forces?) is going to use the rifle for the parade. He saw them using it during practice.



    WE will have FX for decades to come.


    good news thanks dran for the info

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    But are they still looking to aquire some Blackhawks
    No.

    "is mexico planning to buy 12 AH-1Ws or they are choosing which helos are going to buy plz answer this quetions"
    No, I said that they had all ready choose, FAM was looking for a utilitary helicopter, never a Gunship or attack helo, that is a dumb rumor created at wikipedia, it is not true, Mexico is not buying, or interested in Ah 1W or any other variable of the cobra or any attack helicopter.

    "so by when will the new hueys be delivered to mexico and how many will go to the air force and the rest to the police agencys."
    Hard to tell yet, it was anounced 2 days ago.

    Deal was for the Air force, and it will recive all of them, wich also had recived all of the pgr aerial services helicopter fleet, cause police Aerial services was so corrupted that they were ordered to be left without helos and to turn them to FAM.

    is the AH-1Ws are they made by the bell helicopter to so maybe bell will sell them to mexico becuase of such a large purchase of helicopters at once what do you think shadow storm or anyone opinion
    No they won´t sell them, it´s not a candy store and because we don´t want them, we have a deal for bell 412, thats about it. Buying cobras would mean that US congress would have to aporve it.


    Hold your ground ok, Ch 53 are an option, not a confirmed one, they are abvailable in case we want to, but so far nothing has been set yet.

    why are the rifles fx05 only made in camo and tan colors and not in black like the g3 or g 36
    Cause the case is not made of metal, and don´t you think that cammo or overall green or sand would be lot more better than black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack View Post
    Can you explain me how could one base possibly hold 100 helos? I mean this is not NAS Oceana, it´s a Mexican Airforce base, big, but they can´t do much here in maintennace and flying, that´s why they are divided in squadrons. The yasoor were sent to Merida, cause there was only one 212 squadron, msot hips were removed from here, etc etc etc.
    This are going to be alocated wherever they may be needed.
    If one aircraft carrier can hold 100 aircraft, then one air base can hold one hundred helos dork. Ni que fueran jumbos.
    What Dragunov says is right, and you are a fool for continuing to insist that 111 helicopters are exactly what the country needs. I live in the biggest state in the country, and I am sure that for our needs 111 would barely cover the state of Chihuahua.
    The truth is that 111 helicopters is all that the FAM can afford with the skimpy budget allocated to it by the SEDENA and that they are placed in the most, most urgent places, but that by most means doesn't signify that they are sufficient or that they could not be used elsewhere. So stop acting like the know-it-all and stop talking to everyone as if we were a bunch of idiots. Por eso no quieren a los chilaquiles güey. Por mamones y sabelotodos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack View Post
    Cause the case is not made of metal, and don´t you think that cammo or overall green or sand would be lot more better than black.
    You mean polymer can't be made in black? You learn something new every day. Pos esque aquí vevemos en un rancho y no sabemos de esas cosas tan sofestecadas. Perdónanos Wolfpack.

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    I would think the 412 also being a good choice on the count that it would make transition easier since the Air Force has extensive experience with the 212.

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    Yes off course, Every Airforce pilot was instructed in Bell´s 206 or 212, then sen´t to it´s specific squadron also groun crews. So it´s gonna be easy for everyone and cheapper for the Governament since most components are similar, or the same with bell 212. Change won´t be traumatic.
    Your avatar is so cool.

    Heres a pic of the 412 pre and post cammo at FAM spops sq 101



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    the air force requires a lot more helicopters than what they have and have aquired.the air force would need to cover the whole of mexico completly to around 500 helicopters to cover the entire country in some form of numbers.

    the air force does need some attack helos to deal with the ezln in chiapas and the guerrilas in oaxaca. You think you dont need attack helos in the jungles to prevent the prop up of guerrila forces and drug labs like in south america.

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    Yes, and I would think that 500 would be a modest number for a country the size of México.

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    Mexico should start licence build these helicopters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstorm View Post
    Mexico should start licence build these helicopters.
    I would think so with a number that high.
    Does anyone happen to have any new photos of the FX-05 all i ever find are ones that i already seen.I never seen the extended version of the FX-05 anyone happen to have one?? I am glad to see the FAM is finaly geting something.I love the huey's i think it's great there geting upgraded versions.

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    On the very first photo released of it, you can see part of one. It is the first one on the left side of the upper rack.
    http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3...mexico71li.jpg

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    Can anyone tell me how large the Mexican military is? Specifically number of soldiers.

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    SEDENA sent a FAM C-130 to Peru to provide Humanitarian help.
    http://www.sedena.gob.mx/pdf/comunicados/1092007.pdf


    Active regular forces: 249,500

    Civilians in reserve age: 39,899 + 300,000 del Servicio Militar Nacional


    Does anyone happen to have any new photos of the FX-05
    New there are none made public, due to the piracy issues, sedena disapeared the rifle from everyones sight. Now that all is settled down they star comming up, specially on the parade.

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    the air force does need some attack helos to deal with the ezln in chiapas
    EZLN is not at war, it´s political issue, and the president would be insane, and society would rip off his head, not to meiton the international disaster if México would dare to do souch thing.
    I´m not shure, what´s your info, but ezln is more a political movement now, there´s been not a combat since President Salinas ordered the Army to stop operations cause we were killing bunches of them, and International Opinion was a negative issue.

    So, no, thats not evena posibility or an option, EZLN is nothing militarily speaking, Not evena problem, really.


    and the guerrilas in oaxaca.
    There are no constant combats, or always an open front on this guys, most of the job is made by intelligence and police. Though if combat operations would happen the actual helos are more than capable to deal with 5 guys. Ataack helos are way way over this.


    You think you dont need attack helos in the jungles to prevent the prop up of guerrila forces and drug labs like in south america.
    A helo hardly will stop guerrilla to erupt, its a social problem, and as far as I know drug labs are found mostly in the ranch´s, poor neighborhoods. Underground labs are not so common, and to destroy them, you need troops that may go inside, set charges and blew them, an attack helo would be useless against such target.

    One again, there is no need to a helicopter wich are designed to stop tanks, and troop concentrations, what we have is more than enough.


    You don´t gather this much fire power to kill zapatistaz, 5 crimnals in the sierra who called themselves "guerrilla" or to blow up houses or narcs. There is always a military and political proportion to be respected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix U. Gómez View Post
    On the very first photo released of it, you can see part of one. It is the first one on the left side of the upper rack.
    http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3...mexico71li.jpg
    huh...I always knew that rife looked diferent then the rest, Well i just expected the barrel to be extended and not the whole covering.Well i think it looks better that way anyways.

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