Troop surge opposed by... Ollie North?

[ElHombre]

How bad does the troop 'surge' idea about to be proposed by the Bush admin have to be to be opposed by Ollie North?

A "surge" or "targeted increase in U.S. troop strength" or whatever the politicians want to call dispatching more combat troops to Iraq isn't the answer. Adding more trainers and helping the Iraqis to help themselves, is. Sending more U.S. combat troops is simply sending more targets.

Of course, Ollie misses the point that further training of the Iraqi army just increases the effectiveness of the sectarian forces.

[shocker1]

This little sentence from another thread says it all.

Iran’s backdoor influence over Washington via the Iraqi Shia has become a nightmare.

That said why is it that some in America seem to take some kind of satisfaction in seeing their own country fail in Iraq? The situation is bad enough but to have those in this country snickering at the prospect of a total melt down over in Iraq is a cancer. Eating it's way at the heart of our mission and our men and women in harms way. At the same time feeding the conculsion our enemy has that we will stand down.

The war has taken a decided turn, and all paths look bad. Sending more troops will not solve the near term problems in Iraq. However the prospect of an Iraq left to burn it's self down only to be picked up by a Shia Iran is a nightmare. Some kind of containment policy may be the end result here. Another outcome is war with Iran and thats no wise choice. I would not want to be the POTUS right now.

[California Joe]

I have the greatest respect for the US Marines, and I sincerely mean that but Ollie North is a huge c*nt. I really don't care what his opinion is about anything.

[KB]

I have the greatest respect for the US Marines, and I sincerely mean that but Ollie North is a huge c*nt. I really don't care what his opinion is about anything.

No offense taken; a great number of Marines feel the same way.

[ElHombre]

That said why is it that some in America seem to take some kind of satisfaction in seeing their own country fail in Iraq?

I'm going to go out on a limb and speak for a great number of the poeple you're accusing of some macabre sadists. We don't take any kind of satisfaction in this situation. We've watched as the Bush admin took thousands of people for a ride that's cost thousands their lives. We're the folks who repeatedly warned that this whole idea was a stupid mistake and we've been proved tragically right. We're all now stuck in a situation where the only person who can do something to stop this idiocy is the same person who won't for no greater or noble reason that he will not admit to neither himself or the world that he has failed.

I would not want to be the POTUS right now.

Bush has placed himself in this position. Don't waste a moment of pity on him.

[shocker1]

I'm going to go out on a limb and speak for a great number of the poeple you're accusing of some macabre sadists. We don't take any kind of satisfaction in this situation. We've watched as the Bush admin took thousands of people for a ride that's cost thousands their lives. We're the folks who repeatedly warned that this whole idea was a stupid mistake and we've been proved tragically right. We're all now stuck in a situation where the only person who can do something to stop this idiocy is the same person who won't for no greater or noble reason that he will not admit to neither himself or the world that he has failed.



Bush has placed himself in this position. Don't waste a moment of pity on him.

In all that you have managed to tell every soldier he/she is on a wild ride. Sliding down a spiral of idiocy because the POTUS made a stupid mistake. That he is sending thousands of them to their deaths because he won't admit he is wrong. Yet gave no rational ideas on how to handle Iraq, Iran, Syria Lebanon and Israel.The situations in these countries is intertwined and are the heart of the problem in the Middle East. In my opinion the told you so's crowd is part of the problem.

I respect all Presidents and support this one. Spouting defamatory speech about any President is wrong. Opposing his policies in a respectful manner is the American thing to do.

Of course you will reply with some long winded democratic talking point. And the cycle countinues......

[Hollis]

Oliver back when most Marines thought he was OK, or even better. He has a right to a opinion, right or wrong. He was in Kilo 3/3 in RVN.. Opinion, we all got them. Now if we had a way to read the future than maybe, just maybe, we can make decisions that work all the time.

[CPL Trevoga]

How bad does the troop 'surge' idea about to be proposed by the Bush admin have to be to be opposed by Ollie North?
Of course, Ollie misses the point that further training of the Iraqi army just increases the effectiveness of the sectarian forces.

I like Ollie, but in my opinion we should start killin' motherfukers and drop that stupid "democrazy and freedom" sjit. These Arabs guys will ass rape you, if they sense you're weak. Muqtada and all these assholes need to be killed and anybody who even dares to even throws a dirty look at the US. Unfortunately many people in power are not that culturally aware and have no knowledge or understanding of other cultures.



P.S. Hollis were you attached to 3/3 back in the day?

[Hollis]

P.S. Hollis were you attached to 3/3 back in the day?

Yes, I was in Lima 3/3 (CO was Captain Krulick who became CMC) then India 3/3. North was a LT in Kilo at the time.

[MG 3]

I have the greatest respect for the US Marines, and I sincerely mean that but Ollie North is a huge c*nt. I really don't care what his opinion is about anything.

Except smuggling weapons.

[Mark Sman]

Trying times bring out trying typists.

I guess the memo hasn't gone out fully to the Democratic party, that they aren't the opposition party anymore.

And that the power to wage war is, was, has, and forever should be:

ASCRIBED TO CONGRESS.

Good luck on trying to backwater as quickly as possible on an action you signed off on.

I am sure that will send the correct message both domestically and abroad.

And at the sharp end.

Don't even bring up the Emergency War Powers thing.

It was not used in this case.

[mas-36]

No offense taken; a great number of Marines feel the same way.

Do many Marines feel the same way? Two houses away from me is a 91 year old WW 2 Marine vet. I cut his grass for him from time to time. He hates Ollies North, and hopes someone shuts him up. I personally can't stand him, and haven't for a long while.

[exarmyguard]

This war is flawed. It was born of lies and nothing more. Tell me something...Does anyone care about the 19 year old kids who's lives will be lost? I am tired of reading about politicians who talk about putting thousands of young people in a war zone like its nothing. All I know is that Ollie broke federal laws of the United States years ago, regardless of the reasons he did so. First thought should be given to these young lives who are being asked to fight. What Ollie says means squat.

[exarmyguard]

Do many Marines feel the same way? Two houses away from me is a 91 WW 2 Marine vet. I cut his grass for him from time to time. He hates Ollies North, and hopes someone shuts him up. I personally can't stand him, and haven't for a long while.

Regardless if he was a Marine, he is still a criminal. Just because someone served he country, doesn't give him special rights. I know of ex-servicemen who commited crimes and he is in the same league. What that POS says is meaningless.

[helomech]

I have the greatest respect for the US Marines, and I sincerely mean that but Ollie North is a huge c*nt. I really don't care what his opinion is about anything.

None taken here as well;I know quite a few of us former Marines think he's a shytestain too.....

He needs to keep his piehole shut,but since he's on Fox news he has the perfect medium. Dip siht