Reply With QuoteBeautiful plane, no resemblence to the B-1 Lancer at all . . .
Beautiful plane, no resemblence to the B-1 Lancer at all . . .
Take the Lancer and make it big!
Wow! I have never seen video footage of the Tu-160 flying before - thats superb! Thank you!
And double it's speed.Originally Posted by CoRe
Mach 2.2? You must be joking. Maximum Lancer speed is around Mach 1.25
And he was talking about B-1B Lancer not some prototype which never entered service.
Maybe complitely unloaded and with low fuel B-1B could reach Mach 1.5, but what is the point of the bomber then?
Last edited by koko; 01-25-2007 at 12:38 PM.
Let's clear this once and for all
B-1A: 2200kph
Tu-160: 2000kph
B-1B: not sure, 1600 I think
B-1A was just a prototype, only 4 were built. 2 of them crashed.
Tu-160 speed is Mach 2.05 (2,220 km/h)
B-1B 1,529 km/h, Mach 1,25
The B-1A wasn't "just a prototype". It was designed from the outset for Mach 2.2 speeds. They decided making stealthy inlets and sacrificing speed increased it's lethality so they did it. That's why they aren't called YB-1 and B-1A. OBTW want to hear something really funny? The B-1B's record for hauling 30,000kg 5000km is faster than the Blackjacks and they did it with 60% of the power of a Blackjack. Big ass plane with uber power and it's not even as capable as the B-1B LOL. THAT's funny.
Not true. Max payload for Tu 160 is 40,000 not 30,000 and it's pretty dumb to even dabate that B1B would outrun Tu 160 in speed.
Next time you'll have to actually read what I wrote. BTW technically the B-1B has a 125,000lb payload capacity but is prohibited from carrying external stores by treaty.
Next time you might want to back up ur claims with some facts..... Since lately you been talking much out of youre ass and it's hard to take you seriously.....
Now! show me both planes flying 5,000km with 30,000 each and B1B won that record. When was it done and show me those records next to each other.... This is Internet after all and next time provide some links/facts with any statment like you'rs.
Infact that record can be true, records are INDEPENDENTLY registered by FAA. Therefore it's possible that B1B flew x km with y speed and if no other aircraft announced to participate at exactly the same variables the record remains unbeaten. So if Tu-160 fly with 31,000 kg 5100 km with faster speed it's already a different category record and not replace B1s. A Ford-T is also faster then a Ferrari if Ferrari don't bother to race against it.
Sferrins claims that Tu-160 is slower then B1B at same payload and range just prove that he didn't read nor FAA-rules nor technical characteristics of both aircrafts.
? where did you get that? 125000lbs is equal to roughly 62tonns. but that is impossible since maximun take off weight of a b-1b is 214650kg, empty weight 86183 and fuel 88450kg. so this leaves about 40000kg. according to specs b-1b can carry 34t internal _or_ 26,7t external payload.
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